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It is illegal, so you are taking part in illegal drugs?
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it is illegal, so you are taking part in illegal drugs?
I mean, I'm aware of that. I've stop taken it. I don't think that it - it gives me the jitters. It makes me feel bad afterwards. It's a pretty harsh thing if aren't prescribed it and you're not used to it, it can be pretty jarring.
i, mean i'm aware of that i've, stop taken it i don't think that it - it gives me the jitters it makes me feel bad afterwards it's a pretty harsh thing if aren't prescribed it and you're not used to it it can, be pretty
I mean I'm aware of, that I've stop taken it I don't. think, that it - it gives me the jitters It, makes me feel bad, afterwards It's a pretty harsh thing if aren't prescribed it and, you're not used to it it can be pretty.
i mean, i'm aware of that. i've stop taken it. i don't think that it - it gives me the jitters. it makes me feel bad afterwards. it's a pretty harsh thing if aren't prescribed it and you're not used to it, it can be pretty jarring.
Yeah. Well, Murray, thank you so much for calling in. It's been interesting hearing from somebody who's actually used these kinds of drugs, and I really appreciate your calling in. Thank you.
yeah. well murray thank you so much for calling in it's been interesting hearing, from somebody who's. actually used these kinds of drugs and i really appreciate your, calling in thank
Yeah Well Murray thank you so. much for. calling; in It's been interesting hearing from somebody who's actually used these kinds of. drugs and I really appreciate, your calling in; Thank
yeah. well, murray, thank you so much for calling in. it's been interesting hearing from somebody who's actually used these kinds of drugs, and i really appreciate your calling in. thank you.
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Barbara Sahakian, interesting hearing from Murray and what he had to say. And one thing I'm interested in that I wonder if you can explain - I don't - do they take these like just one at a time when they have a test or is this something that they've been start taking all the time. I'm not clear how they take them. And ...
barbara sahakian interesting hearing from murray. and what he had to say and, one thing, i'm, interested in that i wonder if you can explain - i don't - do they take these like just one at a time when they have a test or is this something that they've. been start taking all, the time i'm not clear how they take them an...
Barbara Sahakian interesting hearing from Murray and what. he had to say And one thing I'm. interested in that I wonder if you can explain - I don't - do they take these like just one, at a time when they have a; test or is this something that they've been start taking all the time I'm not clear how they take them And ...
barbara sahakian, interesting hearing from murray and what he had to say. and one thing i'm interested in that i wonder if you can explain - i don't - do they take these like just one at a time when they have a test or is this something that they've been start taking all the time. i'm not clear how they take them. and ...
Yes. I think it's different patterns for different people, obviously, but I think what he discussed is very typical, so it was very helpful that he was, you know, forthright about it because in this "Professor's Little Helper" commentary, we had some letters in response and one of them came from Nora Volkow who is head...
yes i think it's different patterns for different people. obviously but i, think what he discussed is very typical so it was very helpful that he was you know forthright about. it; because in this "professor's little helper" commentary we had some letters in response and one of them came from nora volkow who is head of...
Yes I think it's different patterns for different people obviously but I think what he discussed is very. typical. so it was very helpful that he was you know forthright about it, because in this "Professor's Little Helper" commentary we had some letters in. response and one of them came from Nora Volkow who is head of...
yes. i think it's different patterns for different people, obviously, but i think what he discussed is very typical, so it was very helpful that he was, you know, forthright about it because in this "professor's little helper" commentary, we had some letters in response and one of them came from nora volkow who is head...
We have to take a break here and when we come back, we're going to continue with you, Barbara Sahakian, and Dr. Nora Volkow is going to join us in the studio as well as we continue this discussion about brain-enhancement drugs.
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We. have to take a break here and when we come back we're going to continue with you Barbara Sahakian and Dr Nora Volkow, is going to join us in the studio as well as we continue this discussion about brain-enhancement
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If you've ever pulled an all-nighter on an exam or for a presentation, maybe you've made yourself a big pot of coffee to stay alert. Nowadays you might be more likely to pop an Adderall to boost your brain power. But is that ethical? We're talking about brain-enhancement with Barbara Sahakian, professor of clinical neu...
if. you've ever pulled an all-nighter on. an exam or for a presentation maybe you've made yourself. a, big. pot. of coffee, to stay alert nowadays, you might be more likely to pop an adderall to, boost your brain power but is that ethical? we're talking about; brain-enhancement with. barbara sahakian professor of. clin...
If you've ever pulled an all-nighter on an exam or for a presentation maybe you've made yourself a big pot of coffee to stay alert Nowadays you might be more likely to pop an Adderall to boost your brain power But, is that ethical? We're. talking about brain-enhancement with Barbara Sahakian professor, of; clinical neu...
if you've ever pulled an all-nighter on an exam or for a presentation, maybe you've made yourself a big pot of coffee to stay alert. nowadays you might be more likely to pop an adderall to boost your brain power. but is that ethical? we're talking about brain-enhancement with barbara sahakian, professor of clinical neu...
And joining me in Studio 3A also is Dr. Nora Volkow. I'm going to get to her in a moment, but I just want to give you, Prof. Sahakian, a chance to finish your thought because we had to take a break. And you're in a middle of a thought as we took that break.
and joining me in studio 3a also is dr nora volkow. i'm going to get. to her in; a moment but i just want to give. you, prof sahakian a, chance. to finish your thought because we had to take a break and you're in a middle of a thought as we took that
And. joining me in Studio 3A also is Dr Nora Volkow I'm going to get to her in a moment but I just want to give you, Prof; Sahakian a chance to finish your thought because we had to take a break And you're in a middle, of a thought as we took that
and joining me in studio 3a also is dr. nora volkow. i'm going to get to her in a moment, but i just want to give you, prof. sahakian, a chance to finish your thought because we had to take a break. and you're in a middle of a thought as we took that break.
Yes, well, of course, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder for which of these - this Ritalin, this methylphenidate is prescribed is a spectrum disorder. So on the extreme means, people obviously have very severe symptoms but towards the middle, you know, it starts to blend with the normal population. So when do you...
yes well of course attention deficit hyperactivity disorder for which of these - this ritalin this methylphenidate is prescribed is a spectrum disorder so on the extreme means people obviously have. very severe symptoms but towards the middle you. know; it starts to blend with the normal population. so when do you, dec...
Yes well of course attention deficit hyperactivity disorder for which of these - this Ritalin this methylphenidate is prescribed is a spectrum disorder So on the, extreme means people obviously have very severe symptoms but. towards the middle you, know. it starts to blend with the. normal population, So when, do you d...
yes, well, of course, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder for which of these - this ritalin, this methylphenidate is prescribed is a spectrum disorder. so on the extreme means, people obviously have very severe symptoms but towards the middle, you know, it starts to blend with the normal population. so when do you...
Certainly with modafinil, we've found that some people are - people don't seem to take them every day for cognitive enhancement. They seem to either take them for a jetlag or they take them for particularly important intellectual challenge. But I have heard of people taking it just to stay up and enhance their attentio...
certainly with. modafinil we've found that some people are - people don't seem. to take them every day for cognitive enhancement they seem to either take them for; a jetlag or they take them for particularly important. intellectual challenge but i have; heard of, people taking it, just to stay up and enhance their atte...
Certainly. with modafinil we've found that some people are - people don't seem, to take, them every day for cognitive enhancement They, seem to either take them for a jetlag or they take them for particularly important intellectual challenge But I have heard of people taking it just to stay up. and enhance their attent...
certainly with modafinil, we've found that some people are - people don't seem to take them every day for cognitive enhancement. they seem to either take them for a jetlag or they take them for particularly important intellectual challenge. but i have heard of people taking it just to stay up and enhance their attentio...
Hmm. Well, let me turn now to Dr. Nora Volkow. She is the director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. She wrote a response to Barbara Sahakian's commentary in the journal Nature. And Dr. Volkow is with me in Studio 3A.
hmm well let me turn now to dr nora, volkow she is the director of the national institute on, drug abuse she wrote, a response to barbara sahakian's commentary in the journal nature and dr volkow is with me in studio
Hmm Well let me turn now to Dr Nora Volkow She is the director of the, National Institute. on Drug Abuse She wrote a, response to Barbara Sahakian's commentary in, the journal Nature And Dr Volkow is with. me in Studio
hmm. well, let me turn now to dr. nora volkow. she is the director of the national institute on drug abuse. she wrote a response to barbara sahakian's commentary in the journal nature. and dr. volkow is with me in studio 3a.
It's so good to have you with us. Welcome to the program. Dr. Volkow, can you tell us how addictive are these drugs? Are they addictive?
it's so good to have you with us welcome to the program, dr volkow can you tell us how addictive are these; drugs? are they,
It's so good to have you with us Welcome to the program Dr Volkow, can you tell; us, how addictive are these drugs? Are they
it's so good to have you with us. welcome to the program. dr. volkow, can you tell us how addictive are these drugs? are they addictive?
Well, good afternoon.
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And stimulant medications are just like actually have an effect that is similar to that of drugs of abuse, which is, Barbara was commenting about it, it increases dopamine in the brain. And this is the mechanism that is believed to underline the rewarding effects of drugs of abuse that produces addiction. So yes, indee...
and stimulant medications are just like actually have an effect that, is similar to that, of drugs of abuse which is barbara was commenting about it it increases dopamine, in the brain. and this is the mechanism that is believed to underline the rewarding effects of drugs of abuse that produces addiction so yes indeed ...
And stimulant medications are just like actually have an effect that is similar, to that of drugs of abuse which is Barbara was commenting about it it increases dopamine in the brain, And this is the mechanism. that. is. believed to underline the rewarding effects of drugs, of abuse that produces addiction So yes indee...
and stimulant medications are just like actually have an effect that is similar to that of drugs of abuse, which is, barbara was commenting about it, it increases dopamine in the brain. and this is the mechanism that is believed to underline the rewarding effects of drugs of abuse that produces addiction. so yes, indee...
Yeah. We heard from a caller already who was describing the effect a little bit. He said, you know, sometimes you get jittery from these drugs. I wonder if you can expand on what he might have been trying to describe a little bit more.
yeah we heard, from a caller already who was describing the, effect a little bit he said you know sometimes you get jittery from these drugs i wonder if. you can. expand on what he might have been trying to describe a little bit
Yeah We heard from a caller already who was describing the effect a little. bit He said, you know sometimes you. get jittery; from these drugs I wonder if you can expand. on, what he might have been trying to describe a little bit.
yeah. we heard from a caller already who was describing the effect a little bit. he said, you know, sometimes you get jittery from these drugs. i wonder if you can expand on what he might have been trying to describe a little bit more.
Well, indeed, when you - the responses to stimulant medication varies enormously among people and also the effects of methylphenidate are somewhat different from those of amphetamine. Over all, amphetamine is a more potent stimulant and its effects are longer lasting. And because it's stimulating dopamine at much highe...
well indeed when you - the responses to stimulant medication varies enormously among people and also the effects of methylphenidate are somewhat different from those of amphetamine over all amphetamine is a more potent stimulant and its, effects, are. longer lasting and, because it's stimulating dopamine at much higher...
Well indeed when you - the responses to stimulant medication varies enormously among people, and also. the effects of methylphenidate are somewhat different from those of amphetamine Over all amphetamine is a more. potent stimulant and its effects are longer lasting And because it's stimulating dopamine at much higher;...
well, indeed, when you - the responses to stimulant medication varies enormously among people and also the effects of methylphenidate are somewhat different from those of amphetamine. over all, amphetamine is a more potent stimulant and its effects are longer lasting. and because it's stimulating dopamine at much highe...
Also, he mentioned that he didn't necessarily like the fact of how he felt after the drug is over. And that indeed is described by some individuals as feeling like a crash. They fell with no energy and they cannot concentrate which is of course problematic particularly if you're starting to feel like that just before y...
also he mentioned that he didn't necessarily like the fact of how he felt after the drug is over and that. indeed is. described by some individuals as, feeling like a crash they fell with no, energy and they cannot concentrate which is of course problematic particularly if you're. starting to feel like that just before...
Also he mentioned that he didn't necessarily like the fact of how he felt after the drug is over And that indeed is described by some individuals as feeling like a crash They fell with no energy and they cannot concentrate which is of course problematic particularly, if you're starting, to feel like that just before yo...
also, he mentioned that he didn't necessarily like the fact of how he felt after the drug is over. and that indeed is described by some individuals as feeling like a crash. they fell with no energy and they cannot concentrate which is of course problematic particularly if you're starting to feel like that just before y...
So what we need to understand when you're using these medications is that when you use them outside the prescribed purposes, you are going to be producing adaptation changes in your brain that can be deleterious to performance.
so what we. need to understand when you're using these medications is that when you use them outside the, prescribed purposes you are going to be producing adaptation changes in your; brain that; can, be deleterious to
So what we need to understand when you're using these medications is that when you. use them outside. the prescribed purposes you, are going to be producing adaptation changes, in; your brain that can be deleterious to
so what we need to understand when you're using these medications is that when you use them outside the prescribed purposes, you are going to be producing adaptation changes in your brain that can be deleterious to performance.
And the other thing that is important for people to know is that not everybody improves when they take a stimulant medication. There's numerous stories that have actually shown that in some individuals and for certain tasks, the performance can actually deteriorate when they take stimulant medication.
and. the other thing that, is important for. people to know; is that not everybody improves when they take. a stimulant medication. there's numerous stories. that have actually shown that in some individuals and for certain tasks the performance. can. actually deteriorate when they. take stimulant
And the other thing that is important. for people to know is that not everybody improves when they take a stimulant medication There's numerous stories that have, actually shown that, in some individuals and for certain tasks the; performance can actually deteriorate when they take. stimulant
and the other thing that is important for people to know is that not everybody improves when they take a stimulant medication. there's numerous stories that have actually shown that in some individuals and for certain tasks, the performance can actually deteriorate when they take stimulant medication.
How would they deteriorate - what do you mean, they deteriorate?
how would they deteriorate - what do you mean they
How would they deteriorate - what do you mean they
how would they deteriorate - what do you mean, they deteriorate?
For example, one of the things that happens when an individual is taking a stimulant, and was reported by the caller, is you can concentrate much better but that concentration can go to the extreme, to make you actually perseverate on that particular task and being enabled to shift from that task to another one that ma...
for example. one of the things that happens, when an individual, is taking a stimulant and was reported. by the. caller is you can concentrate. much better but that concentration can, go to the extreme to make you actually perseverate on that particular task and being enabled to shift from that task. to another one tha...
For example one of the things that, happens when an individual is taking a stimulant and was reported by, the caller is you can concentrate much, better but that concentration can go. to the extreme to make you. actually perseverate on that particular task and being enabled to shift from that task to another one that m...
for example, one of the things that happens when an individual is taking a stimulant, and was reported by the caller, is you can concentrate much better but that concentration can go to the extreme, to make you actually perseverate on that particular task and being enabled to shift from that task to another one that ma...
Oh, I see, so you're focusing so intensely on one thing that you're not able to go back and forth and…
oh i see so you're focusing, so intensely on one thing that you're not able to go back and forth
Oh I see so you're, focusing so, intensely on one thing that you're not able to go back and forth
oh, i see, so you're focusing so intensely on one thing that you're not able to go back and forth and…
Exactly.
exactly.
You don't have that kind of breadth that you need for true knowledge, really, is kind of what you're saying?
you don't have that kind of breadth that you need for, true knowledge really is kind of what you're
You don't have that. kind of breadth. that you need for true knowledge really is kind of what you're.
you don't have that kind of breadth that you need for true knowledge, really, is kind of what you're saying?
Exactly.
exactly.
Okay. Let's take a call. We're going to go to Joe(ph). He is calling from Salt Lake City, Utah.
okay let's take a call we're going, to go to joe(ph). he is calling, from salt lake. city
Okay Let's take a. call We're going to go to Joe(ph). He, is calling from Salt Lake City
okay. let's take a call. we're going to go to joe(ph). he is calling from salt lake city, utah.
Joe, go ahead.
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joe, go ahead.
Thank you for letting me participate. I'm a physician and I've prescribed both stimulants as well as modafinil. And I was with a group of other physicians discussing the ethical aspects of it, and two things came to us in the conclusion. One was whether or not the drug was addictive which for some of the - it's from th...
thank you for letting me participate i'm a physician and i've prescribed both stimulants as. well as modafinil and i was with a group of other physicians discussing, the ethical aspects of it and two things came to us in the conclusion one was whether or. not the drug was addictive which. for, some. of the - it's, from...
Thank. you for letting, me participate I'm a physician and I've. prescribed both stimulants as well, as modafinil And I was with a group of other physicians discussing the ethical aspects of it and two, things came to us in; the conclusion One was whether or not the drug was addictive which for some of the - it's from ...
thank you for letting me participate. i'm a physician and i've prescribed both stimulants as well as modafinil. and i was with a group of other physicians discussing the ethical aspects of it, and two things came to us in the conclusion. one was whether or not the drug was addictive which for some of the - it's from th...
We thought it was ethically dubious for a student who otherwise doesn't have a diagnosis to be taking a stimulant to improve their test scores. It made it unfair for them to be in the same arena as students who otherwise aren't taking stimulants. However, we thought it may not be as ethically dubious for individuals wh...
we thought it was ethically dubious for a student who; otherwise doesn't have a diagnosis, to be. taking a stimulant to improve their test scores it made it unfair for them to be in the same arena as students who otherwise aren't taking stimulants however we thought it may not be as ethically dubious for individuals wh...
We thought it was ethically dubious. for a. student who otherwise doesn't have a diagnosis to be taking. a stimulant to improve their test scores It made it unfair for them to be in the same arena as students who otherwise aren't taking stimulants However we thought it may not be as ethically dubious for; individuals w...
we thought it was ethically dubious for a student who otherwise doesn't have a diagnosis to be taking a stimulant to improve their test scores. it made it unfair for them to be in the same arena as students who otherwise aren't taking stimulants. however, we thought it may not be as ethically dubious for individuals wh...
But and I ask you a question, Joe, so I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying. So you're saying, that as a doctor, you're trying to differentiate which case might be one where you would in fact prescribe this drug who someone who doesn't have any kind of condition necessarily physical or mental conditi...
but and i ask you a question joe so i just want to make sure i, understand what you're saying. so you're saying that as a, doctor; you're trying to differentiate which case. might be one where. you, would in fact prescribe this drug who someone who doesn't have any kind of condition necessarily physical or mental condi...
But and I ask you a question Joe so I just want, to make sure I understand what you're saying So you're saying that as, a doctor you're trying to differentiate which case might be one where you would in fact prescribe this drug who someone who doesn't have any kind. of condition necessarily, physical or mental, conditi...
but and i ask you a question, joe, so i just want to make sure i understand what you're saying. so you're saying, that as a doctor, you're trying to differentiate which case might be one where you would in fact prescribe this drug who someone who doesn't have any kind of condition necessarily physical or mental conditi...
Yes - well, yes and no. Modafinil is indicated for shift workers, and so to me, residents and truck drivers have a kind of shift work. I wouldn't necessarily prescribe it to someone who, you know, their livelihood or their safety isn't depending on it but - and I actually haven't had - nobody has asked me to prescribe ...
yes - well yes, and no modafinil is indicated for shift workers and so to me residents and truck drivers have a kind of shift work i wouldn't necessarily prescribe it to someone. who. you, know their livelihood or their safety isn't depending on it but - and i. actually haven't had - nobody; has, asked me to prescribe ...
Yes - well yes and no Modafinil is indicated for shift workers and so to me residents and truck drivers have a kind of shift work I wouldn't necessarily prescribe it to someone who, you know their livelihood. or. their safety isn't depending. on, it but - and I actually haven't had - nobody has asked me to prescribe it...
yes - well, yes and no. modafinil is indicated for shift workers, and so to me, residents and truck drivers have a kind of shift work. i wouldn't necessarily prescribe it to someone who, you know, their livelihood or their safety isn't depending on it but - and i actually haven't had - nobody has asked me to prescribe ...
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Since that we had due to the examples that proponents of using these medications always say, well, about the student with a deficit. And it's never - I've never argued against using it for someone with a diagnosis of ADHD because that's indication but the students who take it so that they can do better on the SAT, we t...
since, that we had due to the examples that, proponents of using these medications always say well. about the student with a deficit and, it's never - i've never argued against using it for someone with, a diagnosis of adhd because that's indication but the students who take it so. that they can do better on. the sat w...
Since; that we had due to the examples that. proponents of using these medications always say, well, about the student with a deficit And it's never - I've never argued against using it for someone with a diagnosis of ADHD because that's indication but the students who take it so that they can do better on the SAT we t...
since that we had due to the examples that proponents of using these medications always say, well, about the student with a deficit. and it's never - i've never argued against using it for someone with a diagnosis of adhd because that's indication but the students who take it so that they can do better on the sat, we t...
I see. Okay. Well, thanks so much for adding to the discussion, Joe.
i see okay well thanks so much for adding to the discussion
I see Okay Well thanks so much for adding to the, discussion
i see. okay. well, thanks so much for adding to the discussion, joe.
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We have an e-mail here that's interesting. Rick(ph) from Portland, Oregon. Who hasn't have coffee or cola before an exam or important meeting? How about toast with jelly that has sugar, a stimulant drug. The main issue should be whether the substance is safe. If people can do a better job by eating a good breakfast or ...
we have; an e-mail here. that's interesting rick(ph) from portland oregon who hasn't, have coffee or cola. before an exam or important, meeting? how about toast with jelly that has sugar a stimulant drug the main. issue should be whether the; substance is safe. if people can do a better job by eating a good breakfast o...
We have an e-mail here that's interesting, Rick(ph) from Portland Oregon Who. hasn't have coffee or cola before. an exam or important meeting? How about toast with jelly that has sugar a stimulant drug The main issue should be whether the substance is safe, If people can do a better job by eating a good breakfast or ta...
we have an e-mail here that's interesting. rick(ph) from portland, oregon. who hasn't have coffee or cola before an exam or important meeting? how about toast with jelly that has sugar, a stimulant drug. the main issue should be whether the substance is safe. if people can do a better job by eating a good breakfast or ...
Barbara Sahakian, let me ask you to reply - to respond to that first.
barbara. sahakian let me ask you to reply - to respond to that
Barbara, Sahakian let me. ask you to reply - to respond to that
barbara sahakian, let me ask you to reply - to respond to that first.
Well, of course, as Nora would say to these are much potent than just your cup of coffee and so forth, but I thought Joe's point was very interesting that he raised because it has been suggested that there may be conditions in which we want to encourage people to take cognitive-enhancing drugs, for instance, air-traffi...
well of course, as nora would say. to these are much potent than just, your cup of, coffee and so forth but i, thought joe's point was very interesting that he raised because it has been suggested that there may be conditions in which we want to encourage people to take cognitive-enhancing drugs for instance, air-traff...
Well of course as Nora; would say to these are much potent, than just your cup of coffee, and so forth but I thought Joe's, point was very interesting that he raised because it has been. suggested that, there may be. conditions in which we want to encourage people to take cognitive-enhancing drugs for instance air-traf...
well, of course, as nora would say to these are much potent than just your cup of coffee and so forth, but i thought joe's point was very interesting that he raised because it has been suggested that there may be conditions in which we want to encourage people to take cognitive-enhancing drugs, for instance, air-traffi...
And he also pointed out that thus far anyway, modafinil, because it doesn't act as a classic, stimulant and doesn't have these same effects on dopamine that amphetamine and methylphenidate do, it doesn't seem to have the same abuse potential and this is also true of other drugs such as atomoxatine. So it is - these thi...
and he also pointed out that thus far anyway modafinil because it doesn't act as a classic stimulant and doesn't have these same effects on dopamine, that amphetamine and methylphenidate do it doesn't seem to have the same abuse potential and this is, also true of other drugs such as atomoxatine so it is - these things...
And he also pointed out that thus far anyway modafinil because it doesn't act as a classic stimulant and doesn't have these. same effects on dopamine that amphetamine and. methylphenidate do it doesn't seem to have the same abuse. potential and this is also true of other drugs such as atomoxatine So it, is - these thin...
and he also pointed out that thus far anyway, modafinil, because it doesn't act as a classic, stimulant and doesn't have these same effects on dopamine that amphetamine and methylphenidate do, it doesn't seem to have the same abuse potential and this is also true of other drugs such as atomoxatine. so it is - these thi...
Dr. Volkow was turning thumbs down on a certain point when you were talking to us, so I just want to hear what she was responding to.
dr volkow was turning thumbs down on a certain point when you were talking, to us so i just want to hear what she. was responding
Dr, Volkow was turning thumbs down on a certain. point when you were talking to us so I just. want to hear what she. was responding
dr. volkow was turning thumbs down on a certain point when you were talking to us, so i just want to hear what she was responding to.
Yeah, and I was smiling about to two things also. I think that the recognition that giving medications, stimulant medication for people that are on night shift is actually is practiced, is accepted as a medical practice. At the same time, there has been concern that some of the judgments that have been inadequate when ...
yeah and; i was smiling about. to two things also i think that the recognition that giving medications stimulant medication for people that. are, on night shift is actually is. practiced. is accepted as a medical, practice at the same time there has been concern, that some of the judgments that have been inadequate whe...
Yeah and I was smiling about to two things also I think that the recognition that giving; medications stimulant medication for people that are on night shift is actually is practiced is accepted as a medical practice At the same time. there has been concern that some of the judgments that have been, inadequate when peo...
yeah, and i was smiling about to two things also. i think that the recognition that giving medications, stimulant medication for people that are on night shift is actually is practiced, is accepted as a medical practice. at the same time, there has been concern that some of the judgments that have been inadequate when ...
I was smiling at modafinil because indeed, it is a new medication. It seems to have different effects of stimulant except now the new findings, the new studies done in humans are showing that just like stimulants, it increases dopamine in the human brain. At the same time, we're recognizing based on the epidemiological...
i was smiling at modafinil because indeed it is a new medication it seems to have different effects of stimulant except now the, new findings the new studies. done in humans are showing. that just like stimulants it increases dopamine in the human brain at the same time we're recognizing based, on. the epidemiological ...
I was smiling at modafinil because indeed it, is a new medication It seems to have different effects of stimulant except. now the new findings the new, studies done in humans. are showing that just like stimulants it increases dopamine in the human brain At the same time we're recognizing based on the epidemiological d...
i was smiling at modafinil because indeed, it is a new medication. it seems to have different effects of stimulant except now the new findings, the new studies done in humans are showing that just like stimulants, it increases dopamine in the human brain. at the same time, we're recognizing based on the epidemiological...
I was going to ask you, what's the difference between this and, say, Dexedrine or what it used to be called, speed, which I think kids used to use before they were studying for exams. What's the difference between the kinds of drugs we're talking about and those kinds of drugs?
i was going to ask you what's the difference between this and say dexedrine or what it used to be called speed which i think kids. used to use before they were studying for exams what's the difference between the kinds of drugs we're talking, about and those kinds of
I was going to ask you what's the difference between this and say Dexedrine or what it used. to be called speed which I think kids. used to use before they were studying for exams What's the difference between, the kinds, of drugs we're talking about and, those kinds, of
i was going to ask you, what's the difference between this and, say, dexedrine or what it used to be called, speed, which i think kids used to use before they were studying for exams. what's the difference between the kinds of drugs we're talking about and those kinds of drugs?
Well, Dexedrine is an amphetamine-like compound and there are two isomers of them, and when you have Adderall, you have the Dexedrine plus the amphetamine, so the most commonly utilized medication right now abused on colleges based on the recent surveys is this combination of the Dexedrine with the amphetamine. And tha...
well dexedrine is an amphetamine-like. compound and there are two isomers of them and when you have adderall you have the dexedrine plus the amphetamine so the most. commonly utilized medication right now abused on colleges based on the recent surveys is this combination of the dexedrine with the amphetamine and that's...
Well Dexedrine is an amphetamine-like compound and there are two isomers of them and when you have Adderall you have the; Dexedrine plus the. amphetamine so the most commonly utilized medication right now abused on colleges based on the recent surveys is this combination of the; Dexedrine with the amphetamine And that'...
well, dexedrine is an amphetamine-like compound and there are two isomers of them, and when you have adderall, you have the dexedrine plus the amphetamine, so the most commonly utilized medication right now abused on colleges based on the recent surveys is this combination of the dexedrine with the amphetamine. and tha...
All right. We're going to take a call now. We're going to go to Carolyn(ph). She's calling from San Jose, California.
all right we're going to take a call, now we're going to go to carolyn(ph). she's calling from san jose
All; right We're going. to take a call now We're going to go to Carolyn(ph). She's calling from San Jose
all right. we're going to take a call now. we're going to go to carolyn(ph). she's calling from san jose, california.
Carolyn, go ahead.
carolyn go
Carolyn go
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Hi. Thank you for taking my call. Good program. I just am so concerned at the widespread use of drugs for everything and nothing in our culture. And you know, Dr. Joe a little while ago was talking about prescribing these drugs for people, the resident who didn't get a goodnight's sleep, frankly, I'd rather be treated ...
hi thank you for taking my call. good program i just am so concerned. at the widespread use of drugs for everything. and nothing in our culture and you, know dr joe a, little while ago was, talking about prescribing these drugs for people the resident who didn't get a goodnight's sleep frankly i'd rather be; treated by...
Hi Thank you for. taking my call Good program I just am so concerned at the widespread use of drugs for everything and nothing in our culture, And you know Dr Joe a little, while ago was talking about prescribing these drugs for. people the resident who didn't get a goodnight's sleep frankly I'd rather, be treated by a...
hi. thank you for taking my call. good program. i just am so concerned at the widespread use of drugs for everything and nothing in our culture. and you know, dr. joe a little while ago was talking about prescribing these drugs for people, the resident who didn't get a goodnight's sleep, frankly, i'd rather be treated ...
All right, thanks so much for calling, Carolyn.
all right thanks so much for calling
All right thanks so much. for calling
all right, thanks so much for calling, carolyn.
Barbara Sahakian or Dr. Volkow, I was wondering that myself. I mean, are we going to be doing drug testing of students?
barbara sahakian or dr volkow i was wondering that myself i mean are we going to be doing drug testing of
Barbara Sahakian or Dr, Volkow I was, wondering that myself I, mean are we going to be doing drug testing of
barbara sahakian or dr. volkow, i was wondering that myself. i mean, are we going to be doing drug testing of students?
Well, I'd like to respond. First, to the very important point that was made that, you know, ultimately, our drug use is a reflection of our society and we should really be looking at the broader context of why healthy people would choose to use a drug in the first place. I mean, there are other options for coping with ...
well i'd like to respond, first to the very important point that was made. that you, know ultimately our drug; use is a reflection of our society and we should really be, looking at the broader context of why healthy people would choose to use a drug in the first place, i mean there are; other options, for coping with ...
Well I'd like to respond First to the very important point that was made; that you know ultimately our drug use is a reflection of our society and, we should really be looking at the broader context of why healthy people would. choose to use a drug in the first place I mean there are other options, for coping with ever...
well, i'd like to respond. first, to the very important point that was made that, you know, ultimately, our drug use is a reflection of our society and we should really be looking at the broader context of why healthy people would choose to use a drug in the first place. i mean, there are other options for coping with ...
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Publishers and booksellers are worried that Amazon is going to devour their industry. The online retailer seems to have its hands in all aspects of the business now, from selling books to publishing them, and that has people wondering if there is any end to Amazon's influence, as NPR's Lynn Neary reports.
publishers and booksellers are; worried, that amazon is going, to devour, their industry the online retailer seems to have its hands in all aspects of the business now from, selling books to publishing them and that has people wondering if there is any end, to, amazon's influence as npr's. lynn neary
Publishers and booksellers are worried that Amazon is going to devour their industry The online. retailer seems to have its hands in all aspects of the business now from selling books to, publishing them and that has people wondering if there is any end to Amazon's influence as NPR's Lynn Neary
publishers and booksellers are worried that amazon is going to devour their industry. the online retailer seems to have its hands in all aspects of the business now, from selling books to publishing them, and that has people wondering if there is any end to amazon's influence, as npr's lynn neary reports.
Mm-hmm.
mm-hmm.
Yeah. And there's another aspect that is important to consider which we haven't discussed which is in stories in attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, it has been shown that kids when placed on stimulant medications they perform better but when they are tested after they are off the stimulant, they actually perform...
yeah and there's another aspect. that is important to consider which we. haven't discussed which is in stories in attention deficit hyperactivity disorder it has been shown that kids when placed on stimulant medications they perform better but when they are tested after they are off the stimulant they actually perform ...
Yeah And there's another aspect that is important to consider which. we haven't discussed which is in stories in attention deficit hyperactivity disorder it has, been shown that kids when placed on stimulant medications they perform better but when they are. tested after. they are off the stimulant they actually perfor...
yeah. and there's another aspect that is important to consider which we haven't discussed which is in stories in attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, it has been shown that kids when placed on stimulant medications they perform better but when they are tested after they are off the stimulant, they actually perform...
And there's another aspect to that has been discussed extensively with ADHD and which is if it improves your performance in, actually, for example, enabling you to learn over a night of sleep deprivation, to study and pass the exam, what will it be in terms of the outcome two or three months later? Will you be able to ...
and there's another aspect to, that has been discussed extensively with. adhd. and which is if it improves your performance in; actually for example enabling you to learn over a night, of sleep deprivation to study and pass the, exam what will it be, in terms of the outcome. two or three months later? will you be able ...
And there's another aspect to that has been discussed extensively with ADHD and which is if. it improves your, performance in actually for example enabling you to learn; over a night of sleep deprivation to study and pass, the exam what will it be in. terms, of the outcome two, or three months later? Will you be able, ...
and there's another aspect to that has been discussed extensively with adhd and which is if it improves your performance in, actually, for example, enabling you to learn over a night of sleep deprivation, to study and pass the exam, what will it be in terms of the outcome two or three months later? will you be able to ...
Okay. One last call; we just have a couple of minutes. Andrew(ph) in Nashville, Tennessee.
okay one last call we just have a couple of minutes andrew(ph) in nashville
Okay One last call we just have a couple of minutes Andrew(ph) in Nashville
okay. one last call; we just have a couple of minutes. andrew(ph) in nashville, tennessee.
Go ahead, Andrew.
go ahead
Go ahead
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Yeah. Hi there. I was calling just because I had an experience using Adderall in college; and something that I thought just deserved to be addressed on air was that, you know, even if your intention as a student are to use this to benefit you personally with your studying, the potential to then end up using it recreati...
yeah hi. there; i was calling just because i had an experience using adderall in college and something that i thought just deserved to be addressed on air, was that you know. even if your intention as a student are to use this to benefit you personally with your studying the potential to then end up using, it recreatio...
Yeah Hi there I was calling just. because I had an experience using Adderall in. college and something; that I thought just deserved to, be addressed, on air was, that you know even if your intention as a student are to use. this, to, benefit you personally with your studying the potential to then end up using it recre...
yeah. hi there. i was calling just because i had an experience using adderall in college; and something that i thought just deserved to be addressed on air was that, you know, even if your intention as a student are to use this to benefit you personally with your studying, the potential to then end up using it recreati...
And, you know, for anybody who's taken a stimulant to help their brain work better, I think, knows how bad it feels to come off of it and that for us led to recreational Vicodin use which then went to heavier opiates because the comedown from even these, you know, prescribed drugs can be so strong that I think things c...
and you know for anybody who's taken a stimulant to help their brain work better, i think knows how bad it feels to. come off. of it and, that for us led to recreational vicodin use which, then went. to heavier opiates because the comedown from even these you know prescribed drugs, can be so strong that i think things ...
And you know for anybody who's taken a stimulant to, help their brain. work better I, think knows how bad it feels to come off of it, and that for us led, to recreational Vicodin use which then went to heavier opiates. because the comedown, from even these you know. prescribed drugs can be, so strong, that I think thin...
and, you know, for anybody who's taken a stimulant to help their brain work better, i think, knows how bad it feels to come off of it and that for us led to recreational vicodin use which then went to heavier opiates because the comedown from even these, you know, prescribed drugs can be so strong that i think things c...
So beyond being an ethical issue, I think, it needs to be, you know, a psychological issue about the health of our students emotionally and why they're using these drugs as if - is their studying an excuse to use drugs, you know? And I just hope you guys could talk about that on the air for a little bit.
so. beyond being, an ethical issue i think it needs to be you know a psychological issue about the health of our students emotionally and why they're using these drugs as if - is their studying an excuse to use, drugs you know? and i just hope you guys could talk about, that on the air for a. little
So beyond being; an. ethical issue, I think it needs to be you know, a psychological issue about, the health of. our students emotionally and why they're using these drugs as if - is their studying an excuse to use drugs you know? And I just hope you guys could talk; about that on the, air for a, little
so beyond being an ethical issue, i think, it needs to be, you know, a psychological issue about the health of our students emotionally and why they're using these drugs as if - is their studying an excuse to use drugs, you know? and i just hope you guys could talk about that on the air for a little bit.
All right, Andrew. We don't have much time left time. I'm glad you raised it, I think you raised some things that we've been also been talking about.
all right andrew we don't. have much time left time i'm glad you, raised it i think, you raised some things that we've been also been talking
All right Andrew We don't have much time left time I'm glad you, raised it I. think you raised, some things that we've been also been talking
all right, andrew. we don't have much time left time. i'm glad you raised it, i think you raised some things that we've been also been talking about.
And I just want to read one, quickly, from one e-mail.
and i just want to read one quickly from, one
And I just want to. read. one quickly from one
and i just want to read one, quickly, from one e-mail.
(Reading) I go to Arizona State University. I've been surrounded by overachieving students who use Adderall and other performance-enhancing drugs, it makes it difficult for me to compete.
(reading) i go to arizona state university i've been surrounded; by overachieving students who use, adderall and other performance-enhancing drugs it makes it difficult for me to
(Reading) I go to Arizona State University I've been surrounded by overachieving students who use Adderall and other performance-enhancing drugs it makes it difficult for. me to
(reading) i go to arizona state university. i've been surrounded by overachieving students who use adderall and other performance-enhancing drugs, it makes it difficult for me to compete.
So let's end on that note, cautionary tales, I think.
so. let's end on. that note cautionary tales i
So let's end on that note, cautionary tales I
so let's end on that note, cautionary tales, i think.
Dr. Nora Volkow, thanks so much for being with us; and Barbara Sahakian, thank you also for being with us.
dr nora volkow thanks so much for being with us; and barbara, sahakian thank you also for, being with,
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Scientists say the world's climate is rapidly changing, and we are only beginning to see the effects: an earlier spring in many places, the thawing of permafrost in the Artic, shifts in the ranges of some animals. Warmer temperatures have even changed the range and migration of fish and affected other organisms that li...
scientists say, the world's climate is rapidly changing, and we are only beginning to see the effects: an earlier. spring in many places the thawing of permafrost in the artic shifts in the ranges of. some, animals warmer temperatures have even changed the range and migration of fish and affected other organisms that l...
Scientists say the world's climate is rapidly changing and we are only beginning to see the effects: an earlier spring in many places the thawing of permafrost in the Artic shifts in the, ranges. of some animals. Warmer temperatures, have even changed. the range and migration of fish, and affected other organisms, that...
scientists say the world's climate is rapidly changing, and we are only beginning to see the effects: an earlier spring in many places, the thawing of permafrost in the artic, shifts in the ranges of some animals. warmer temperatures have even changed the range and migration of fish and affected other organisms that li...
Joining me now to talk more about it is Lee Hannah. He is senior research scientist with the Center for Applied Biodiversity Science at Conservation International. He joins us from Santa Barbara, California. Welcome to SCIENCE FRIDAY, Dr. Hannah.
joining me now to talk more about it is lee hannah he is, senior research scientist with the center for applied biodiversity science. at conservation international he. joins us from. santa barbara california welcome to science friday dr
Joining me. now to talk more about it is Lee Hannah He is senior research scientist with the Center for Applied Biodiversity Science at Conservation International He joins us from Santa Barbara California Welcome to SCIENCE FRIDAY Dr
joining me now to talk more about it is lee hannah. he is senior research scientist with the center for applied biodiversity science at conservation international. he joins us from santa barbara, california. welcome to science friday, dr. hannah.
Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.
thank you it's a. pleasure to be
Thank you It's a pleasure to be
thank you. it's a pleasure to be here.
You're welcome. Lisa Graumlich is the director of the School of Natural Resources at the University of Arizona. She's also a professor there, and she joins us from KUAZ in Tucson. Welcome to SCIENCE FRIDAY, Dr. Graumlich.
you're welcome lisa graumlich is the director. of the school of natural resources at, the university of arizona she's also a professor there and she joins us from. kuaz in tucson welcome to science friday dr
You're, welcome Lisa Graumlich is the director of the School of Natural. Resources, at the, University of. Arizona She's also a professor there and she joins us from KUAZ in Tucson Welcome to SCIENCE FRIDAY Dr
you're welcome. lisa graumlich is the director of the school of natural resources at the university of arizona. she's also a professor there, and she joins us from kuaz in tucson. welcome to science friday, dr. graumlich.
Thank you, Ira. It's great to be here.
thank you ira it's great to be,
Thank you Ira It's great to be
thank you, ira. it's great to be here.
Let's start with you because you're out - you're in the Southwest. You're seeing all kinds of changes out there, are you not?
let's start with you because you're out - you're in the southwest you're. seeing all kinds of changes. out there. are you
Let's; start with you because you're out - you're in the Southwest You're seeing all kinds of changes, out there are you
let's start with you because you're out - you're in the southwest. you're seeing all kinds of changes out there, are you not?
Absolutely, the West has turned out to be second only to the Artic in terms of registering changes here in the United States. As you mentioned, we're seeing great snow pack declines. We've got snow packs in the Northwestern part that's about - of the United States - that's about 40 percent of what we had experienced in...
absolutely, the west has turned out, to be second only to the artic. in terms of registering changes here in. the united states as you mentioned we're seeing great snow pack declines we've got snow packs in the northwestern part that's about - of the; united states - that's about 40 percent of what we had experienced i...
Absolutely the West has turned out to. be second, only to the Artic in terms of registering changes here in the United States As you mentioned we're seeing great snow, pack declines We've, got snow packs in the, Northwestern part that's about - of the, United States - that's about 40 percent. of what. we had experience...
absolutely, the west has turned out to be second only to the artic in terms of registering changes here in the united states. as you mentioned, we're seeing great snow pack declines. we've got snow packs in the northwestern part that's about - of the united states - that's about 40 percent of what we had experienced in...
Mm-hmm.
mm-hmm.
For us in Arizona it means in the last five years about 20 percent of our forested lands here have been affected by fire. That's big in a place like Arizona.
for us in arizona it means in the last five years about 20 percent of our forested lands here have been affected by fire that's big in a place like
For us in Arizona it means in the last five years about 20 percent of our forested lands here have been affected by fire That's big, in a place, like
for us in arizona it means in the last five years about 20 percent of our forested lands here have been affected by fire. that's big in a place like arizona.
Mm-hmm, so you're also dry enough to be waiting for more fires to happen.
mm-hmm, so you're also dry enough, to be waiting for, more fires, to
Mm-hmm so you're also dry enough, to be waiting for more fires to
mm-hmm, so you're also dry enough to be waiting for more fires to happen.
Absolutely, and, you know, it's not just fires. We're also seeing things like massive mortality of existing forest stands. The pinion pine is the first tree that you see as you start to go up in elevations from the desert scrub here, and we've had the drought that many people are aware of, the one that has drawn down l...
absolutely and. you know it's not just fires. we're also; seeing things like massive. mortality, of existing forest. stands the pinion pine is the first tree that you see as you. start to go up in elevations from the; desert. scrub here and we've had the. drought that many people are aware of the one that has drawn dow...
Absolutely and you know it's not just fires We're also seeing things like massive mortality of existing forest stands The pinion pine is the first tree that you, see as you start to. go up, in. elevations, from the desert scrub here and we've had, the drought that many people are aware of the one that has drawn down la...
absolutely, and, you know, it's not just fires. we're also seeing things like massive mortality of existing forest stands. the pinion pine is the first tree that you see as you start to go up in elevations from the desert scrub here, and we've had the drought that many people are aware of, the one that has drawn down l...
I don't think it will fall apart that easily. I think there are many reasons and many countries and many powers that want it to be. But if it does fail, we will have what we had for the last 13 or 14 months. And what we're still having which is a government that has not been able to break the international boycott. So ...
i don't. think it will fall apart that easily i think there are many reasons and many countries and many powers that want it. to, be but if it does fail we will have what. we had for the last 13 or 14 months and what we're still. having, which is a government that has not been. able to break the international boycott s...
I don't. think it will fall apart that easily I think there are many reasons and many countries and many powers that want it to be But if it does fail we will have what we had for the last 13 or 14 months And what we're still having which is a government that has not been able to break the international boycott So it d...
i don't think it will fall apart that easily. i think there are many reasons and many countries and many powers that want it to be. but if it does fail, we will have what we had for the last 13 or 14 months. and what we're still having which is a government that has not been able to break the international boycott. so ...
If these clashes continue, what might it mean for the Palestinian authority?
if these clashes continue what might it mean for, the. palestinian
If these clashes continue what might it mean for the Palestinian
if these clashes continue, what might it mean for the palestinian authority?
So, it's not just the authority that will be hurt, but the whole Palestinian cause. Why would people want to support an end to the occupation when Palestinians in the tiny part of Gaza have not been able to rule themselves. And both Fatah and Hamas and the other groups who are armed now and who are unable to control an...
so it's not just the authority that will be hurt but the whole. palestinian cause. why would people want to support an end to the occupation when palestinians in the tiny part, of gaza; have not been able to rule themselves and both fatah and hamas and the other groups who are armed now and who are unable to control an...
So, it's not just the authority that will be hurt but the, whole Palestinian cause Why would people. want to support an end to the occupation when Palestinians in the. tiny, part of Gaza have not been, able to rule themselves, And both Fatah and Hamas. and the other groups who are armed now and who are unable to contro...
so, it's not just the authority that will be hurt, but the whole palestinian cause. why would people want to support an end to the occupation when palestinians in the tiny part of gaza have not been able to rule themselves. and both fatah and hamas and the other groups who are armed now and who are unable to control an...
One thing that's curious is that Gaza slurred up when the West Bank, at least for now, appears to be quiet. How do you see that?
one thing that's curious is that gaza slurred up when the west bank at least for now appears to. be quiet how do you see
One thing that's curious is, that Gaza slurred up when the West. Bank at least for now appears to be quiet How, do you see,
one thing that's curious is that gaza slurred up when the west bank, at least for now, appears to be quiet. how do you see that?
Well, you know, the fact that the Gaza is a very small area economically, it's much worse off than the West Bank. If people in Gaza used to work in Israel, now they cannot work in Israel. People in Gaza used to travel across the borders to Egypt. Now, that border is closed and the Israeli border is closed. So they real...
well you. know the fact that the gaza is a, very small area economically it's much worse off than the, west bank if people in gaza used to; work in israel now they cannot work in israel people in. gaza used to travel across the borders to egypt now that. border is closed. and the israeli border; is closed so, they real...
Well you know the fact. that the, Gaza is a. very small, area economically it's much worse off than, the West Bank If people in; Gaza used to work in Israel now they cannot work in Israel People in Gaza used; to travel across the borders to Egypt Now that border, is closed. and the Israeli border is closed. So they rea...
well, you know, the fact that the gaza is a very small area economically, it's much worse off than the west bank. if people in gaza used to work in israel, now they cannot work in israel. people in gaza used to travel across the borders to egypt. now, that border is closed and the israeli border is closed. so they real...
As we just heard in Linda Gradstein's piece, many residents, at least from one area, are calling for a harsh Israeli military response. What does this mean for the region and also how might this affect the overall peace talks?
as we just heard in linda gradstein's piece many residents at least from one area are calling for a harsh. israeli military response what does this mean for the region and also how might this affect. the overall peace
As we just heard in Linda, Gradstein's piece many residents, at. least from one area are calling for a harsh Israeli military response What does. this mean for the region and also how; might this affect the overall peace
as we just heard in linda gradstein's piece, many residents, at least from one area, are calling for a harsh israeli military response. what does this mean for the region and also how might this affect the overall peace talks?
Nevertheless, the Israelis have often united Palestinians and if they make a major attack on Gaza, it would be further disaster to an already a very tense situation.
nevertheless the israelis have often, united palestinians and if they make a major attack on gaza it would be further disaster to an, already a very tense
Nevertheless the Israelis, have often united Palestinians and if they make a major attack, on Gaza it would be further disaster to an already a very tense
nevertheless, the israelis have often united palestinians and if they make a major attack on gaza, it would be further disaster to an already a very tense situation.
Daoud, thanks again for talking with us.
daoud thanks again for talking with
Daoud thanks again for talking with.
daoud, thanks again for talking with us.
You're welcome.
you're
You're
you're welcome.
That was Daoud Kuttab. He's the director of the Institute for Modern Media at Al Quds University.
that was daoud, kuttab he's the director of the. institute for modern media at al quds
That was Daoud Kuttab He's the director of the Institute for. Modern Media at Al Quds
that was daoud kuttab. he's the director of the institute for modern media at al quds university.
From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Michele Norris.
from npr news this, is all things considered; i'm michele
From NPR News this. is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED I'm Michele
from npr news, this is all things considered. i'm michele norris.
And I'm Robert Siegel.
and i'm robert
And I'm Robert
and i'm robert siegel.
So far in our program we've heard about the growing problem of methamphetamine abuse and efforts to curb it and also how heroin is still a problem in one New Mexico community; that despite some high-profile raids by law enforcement. Now for some analysis of the overall fight against illegal drugs, w...
so far in our program we've heard. about the growing problem of methamphetamine abuse, and efforts to curb it and also, how heroin is still; a problem in one new mexico; community that despite some high-profile, raids by law enforcement now for some analysis of the overall fight against illegal drug...
So far in our program we've heard about the growing problem of. methamphetamine, abuse and efforts, to curb it and also how heroin is still a problem in, one New Mexico community, that despite some high-profile raids by law enforcement Now for, some analysis of the overall fight against. illegal dru...
so far in our program we've heard about the growing problem of methamphetamine abuse and efforts to curb it and also how heroin is still a problem in one new mexico community; that despite some high-profile raids by law enforcement. now for some analysis of the overall fight against illegal drugs, w...
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