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Hi there, Ms. Bok. You know, I think your comment about choosing to be happy is interesting, and it sort of leads into the two things in my life that helped me to be happy. I'm 62 years old, and my father taught me at a very young age that I should always live my life in such a way that when I reached advanced age I d...	hi there ms bok you know i think your comment about choosing to be happy is interesting and it sort of leads into the two things in my life that helped me to be happy i'm 62 years old and my father taught me at a very young age that, i should always live my life in such a way that when i reached advanced age, i don't ...	Hi there Ms Bok You know I think your comment about choosing to be happy, is; interesting and it sort of leads into, the two things in, my life that. helped me to be happy I'm 62 years old and my father taught me at a very young age that I should always live my life in such, a way that, when I reached advanced age I d...	hi there, ms. bok. you know, i think your comment about choosing to be happy is interesting, and it sort of leads into the two things in my life that helped me to be happy. i'm 62 years old, and my father taught me at a very young age that i should always live my life in such a way that when i reached advanced age i d...
And then in my teenage years, young teenage years, there was a song that came out by Donavan: Happiness runs in a circular motion, you can be happy if you let yourself be. And that song throughout my life has - with my father's advice and that song, has just made an incredible impact on the way that I worked and chose,...	and then in my teenage years young teenage years there was a song that came out by donavan: happiness runs in a circular. motion you can be happy if you let yourself be and that song throughout my, life has - with my father's advice and that. song has just made an incredible impact on the way that i worked and. chose i...	And then in my teenage years young teenage years there was a song that, came out by Donavan: Happiness runs, in a circular motion you, can, be happy if, you let yourself be, And that song throughout my life has - with my father's advice and that song has. just made an incredible impact on the way that I worked and chos...	and then in my teenage years, young teenage years, there was a song that came out by donavan: happiness runs in a circular motion, you can be happy if you let yourself be. and that song throughout my life has - with my father's advice and that song, has just made an incredible impact on the way that i worked and chose,...
I really did choose to be happy. I mean, good and bad things happened to me in my life, but I worked through them in a way that at the end, I always ended up being happy, and I know that I'm really fortunate for that.	i really did choose to be happy i mean good and bad things happened to me in my life but i worked through, them in. a way that at the end i always ended up being happy and i know that i'm really fortunate for	I really did choose to be happy, I mean good and bad things. happened to me in; my life but I worked through them in a way that, at the end I always ended up being, happy and, I know that. I'm really fortunate for	i really did choose to be happy. i mean, good and bad things happened to me in my life, but i worked through them in a way that at the end, i always ended up being happy, and i know that i'm really fortunate for that.
Thank you so much for your call, Carol. Go ahead, Ms. Bok.	thank you so much for your call carol go ahead ms	Thank you so much for your call Carol Go ahead Ms	thank you so much for your call, carol. go ahead, ms. bok.
Yes, I'm very interested in your father's advice, and then also in the song and in your combining those two. And certainly, you can interpret the word choose to be happy in such a way as to sort of consider the way you lead your life.	yes i'm very interested in your father's advice, and then; also in the song and. in your combining those; two and certainly you can interpret the word choose to be happy in such a way. as to sort of consider the way you lead your	Yes I'm very. interested in. your father's; advice; and then also in the song and in your combining those two And, certainly you can interpret; the word choose to be happy in such a way as to sort of consider the way you lead your	yes, i'm very interested in your father's advice, and then also in the song and in your combining those two. and certainly, you can interpret the word choose to be happy in such a way as to sort of consider the way you lead your life.
If you lead your life in a way, in such a way that you can look back and not be ashamed of things you've done in the past, that's already, I think, very comforting. And then, however, to deal with problems in the way that you mentioned having dealt with them, that can also help.	if you lead your life in a way in. such a way that you can look back and not be ashamed of things you've done in the past that's already i think very comforting and then however. to deal with problems. in the way that you mentioned having dealt with them that can also.	If, you lead your life in a way in such a. way that you, can look back and not, be ashamed of things you've done in the past that's already. I think very, comforting And then however to deal with problems, in the way that you. mentioned having dealt with them that can also	if you lead your life in a way, in such a way that you can look back and not be ashamed of things you've done in the past, that's already, i think, very comforting. and then, however, to deal with problems in the way that you mentioned having dealt with them, that can also help.
And yet there must have been times for you when things have been so difficult that you might say, well, I wish I could choose to be happy right now but frankly, I don't think I can.	and yet there must have been times for you when things. have been so difficult that you might say well i wish i; could choose to be happy right now but frankly i don't. think i	And yet there must have been times for you when things have been, so difficult that you might say well I, wish I could choose to be happy right now but frankly I don't think I.	and yet there must have been times for you when things have been so difficult that you might say, well, i wish i could choose to be happy right now but frankly, i don't think i can.
Let's go to Veronica(ph) in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Hi, you're on TALK OF THE NATION.	let's go to veronica(ph) in baton rouge. louisiana hi you're on. talk of the	Let's go, to Veronica(ph) in Baton. Rouge Louisiana Hi you're on TALK OF THE	let's go to veronica(ph) in baton rouge, louisiana. hi, you're on talk of the nation.
Hi, my comment is about expectations. For me, that's where happiness or disappointment stems from. Growing up like most teens, you know, accepting what you look like, what you sound like, where you're from. And for me, I have really large teeth.	hi my comment is about expectations for me that's where. happiness or disappointment stems from growing, up like most teens you know accepting what you look like what you sound like where you're from and for me i have really, large	Hi my comment. is about expectations For me that's where happiness or disappointment stems from Growing, up like, most teens you know accepting what you look like what you sound like where you're. from And for me I. have really large	hi, my comment is about expectations. for me, that's where happiness or disappointment stems from. growing up like most teens, you know, accepting what you look like, what you sound like, where you're from. and for me, i have really large teeth.
And one day, I just decided - maybe at 10 or 12 - like, I have teeth, though. You know, I have so much to be thankful for, and it's okay. This is me, and I don't know. From that, it touched everything in my life, and I feel like I'm at peace, like beyond happiness. I feel like I'm at peace.	and one day i just decided - maybe at 10 or 12 - like i have teeth though you know i have so, much to be thankful for and it's okay this is me and i don't know from that it touched everything in my life and i feel. like i'm at peace like beyond happiness i feel like i'm at	And one day I. just decided - maybe at 10 or 12 - like I have teeth though You know I have so much to be thankful, for and it's okay, This is me and I don't. know From that it touched everything in my life and I feel like I'm at, peace like beyond happiness I feel like I'm at	and one day, i just decided - maybe at 10 or 12 - like, i have teeth, though. you know, i have so much to be thankful for, and it's okay. this is me, and i don't know. from that, it touched everything in my life, and i feel like i'm at peace, like beyond happiness. i feel like i'm at peace.
My friends tease me. They call me a silver liner finder. I'm that person that they call when like, they can't see the good in anything, you know. So I don't know. To me, it's just about peace.	my friends tease me. they call me a silver liner finder; i'm that person that they call, when like they can't see the good in anything you know so i don't. know to me it's just about	My friends tease me They call me a silver liner finder I'm that person that they call when. like they can't see the good in anything you know So I don't know To me it's just about	my friends tease me. they call me a silver liner finder. i'm that person that they call when like, they can't see the good in anything, you know. so i don't know. to me, it's just about peace.
And that, I think you've touched on something that I think is very important from the point of view of exploring happiness - namely, trying to understand who you are. That's the beginning of the whole if you really understand who you are and what your expectations are, as you mentioned, then that's already going some...	and that i think you've touched on something that i think is very important from, the, point of view of exploring; happiness - namely trying to understand who. you are that's the beginning of the whole if, you really understand who you are and what your expectations are as you mentioned, then that's already going som...	And that; I think you've, touched on something that I think is; very important from the point of view of exploring happiness - namely trying to understand who you are That's the beginning of the whole if you really understand who you are. and, what your expectations are as you mentioned then that's already, going som...	and that, i think you've touched on something that i think is very important from the point of view of exploring happiness - namely, trying to understand who you are. that's the beginning of the whole if you really understand who you are and what your expectations are, as you mentioned, then that's already going some...
And then I also think you mentioned, you know, the possibility of being grateful for what one has. And gratitude has is extremely important, as many of the writers on happiness mention. Even then, I think we have to step back and ask: Am I grateful for things that maybe I have and other people don't have, and maybe I'...	and then i also think. you mentioned you know the possibility of being, grateful, for what one has and gratitude has is extremely important as many of the writers on happiness mention even. then i think we have to step back and ask: am i; grateful for things that maybe, i have. and other people don't have and maybe i'...	And then I also think you mentioned you know. the, possibility, of being grateful for what one has And gratitude has is extremely, important as many of the writers on happiness mention Even then I think we have to step back and ask: Am. I grateful for things that maybe. I have and other people don't have and maybe I'm...	and then i also think you mentioned, you know, the possibility of being grateful for what one has. and gratitude has is extremely important, as many of the writers on happiness mention. even then, i think we have to step back and ask: am i grateful for things that maybe i have and other people don't have, and maybe i'...
But on the whole, yes, being able to be grateful for what you have and being able to accept who you are, that certainly is a very good starting point.	but on the whole yes being able to be grateful for what you have and being able to; accept who you are that certainly is a very good starting	But on the whole yes being able to be, grateful for what you have. and being able to accept who you are that certainly is a very good starting	but on the whole, yes, being able to be grateful for what you have and being able to accept who you are, that certainly is a very good starting point.
Thank you so much for your call, Veronica. We have lots of emails coming in. A simple one, from Michael(ph). He says: Happiness comes from God.	thank you, so much for your call veronica we have lots of emails coming. in a simple one from michael(ph). he says: happiness comes from	Thank you so. much for your call Veronica, We have lots of emails coming in A simple one from Michael(ph). He says: Happiness, comes from	thank you so much for your call, veronica. we have lots of emails coming in. a simple one, from michael(ph). he says: happiness comes from god.
Ah, happiness comes from God. Now, you see, then you have to stop and ask which God. There are many different people who, of course, have different religious beliefs. And indeed, that makes some of them happy. Not others, especially those who might be very fearful, for instance, of what might happen to them in the afte...	ah happiness comes from god now you see then you have to stop and ask which god, there are many different people who of course have different religious beliefs and indeed that makes some of them, happy not others especially those who might be very fearful for instance of what might happen to them in the.	Ah happiness. comes from God Now you see then you. have to stop; and ask which God There are many. different people who of course have different religious beliefs. And indeed that makes some. of them happy Not others especially those who might be very fearful for instance of what might happen to, them in the	ah, happiness comes from god. now, you see, then you have to stop and ask which god. there are many different people who, of course, have different religious beliefs. and indeed, that makes some of them happy. not others, especially those who might be very fearful, for instance, of what might happen to them in the afte...
So I don't think it can be as simple as that, though it is certainly religious views, and they're very important in my book - comparing the different religious views about what makes for happiness and what does not. Some religious views, of course, say that there is not much you can do about happiness in this life. You...	so i don't think it can be as simple as that though it is, certainly religious views and they're very important in my book, - comparing the different religious views about what makes. for happiness and what does not some religious, views of course say that there is not much you can. do about happiness in this life you,...	So I don't think it can. be, as simple as that though. it is certainly religious views, and they're very important. in my book - comparing the, different religious views about what makes for happiness and what does not Some religious views of course say that there is not much you can do about happiness in this life You...	so i don't think it can be as simple as that, though it is certainly religious views, and they're very important in my book - comparing the different religious views about what makes for happiness and what does not. some religious views, of course, say that there is not much you can do about happiness in this life. you...
Sissela Bok, I want to ask you something that keeps tweaking me in my head, and that is: Is this question really one of privilege? Are we only able to contemplate this because we are so rich, as a culture, and comfortable? We start to ask ourselves these sort of philosophical questions because we're not, you know, pick...	sissela bok i want to ask you something that keeps tweaking me. in, my head and that is: is this question really one of privilege? are we only. able to contemplate this because we are so rich as, a culture and comfortable? we start to ask ourselves these sort of philosophical questions because we're not. you. know pick...	Sissela Bok I want to ask you something that keeps tweaking me in my head and that is: Is this question really. one of privilege? Are we only able to contemplate this because we are so rich, as a culture and comfortable? We start to ask ourselves these sort of philosophical, questions because we're not you know picking...	sissela bok, i want to ask you something that keeps tweaking me in my head, and that is: is this question really one of privilege? are we only able to contemplate this because we are so rich, as a culture, and comfortable? we start to ask ourselves these sort of philosophical questions because we're not, you know, pick...
Ah, yes, that is a very interesting question, but the fact is that ever since the beginning of time - when people, of course, often have not at all been particularly well off - they have been asking that and sometimes, at times of great misery.	ah yes; that is a very interesting question but the fact is that ever since the beginning of time - when people of course. often have not. at all been particularly well off - they have been, asking that and sometimes at times of great	Ah yes, that is a, very interesting question but the fact is that ever since the beginning of time - when people of course often have not; at all. been particularly well off - they have been asking that and sometimes at times of great	ah, yes, that is a very interesting question, but the fact is that ever since the beginning of time - when people, of course, often have not at all been particularly well off - they have been asking that and sometimes, at times of great misery.
Even now, when we look at research from the world over, the fact is that most countries, however poor, have - in most countries, the majority of people are moderately or very happy, or say they are.	even now when we look at research from the world over the fact is that most countries however poor, have - in most countries the majority of people are moderately or very happy or, say they	Even now when we look at research from the world over the fact is that most countries, however poor have - in. most countries the majority of people are moderately or very happy or say. they	even now, when we look at research from the world over, the fact is that most countries, however poor, have - in most countries, the majority of people are moderately or very happy, or say they are.
So yes, it can certainly happen that privileged people have more time to sit back and ask about their own happiness. But in every society, people have done so and sometimes, especially when things are really difficult.	so yes it can certainly happen that privileged people have more time, to, sit back and ask about their own happiness but in every society people have done so and sometimes especially when things are really	So yes it can certainly happen that privileged people have more time to sit back and ask about their own happiness But in every. society people have done so and sometimes especially when. things, are really	so yes, it can certainly happen that privileged people have more time to sit back and ask about their own happiness. but in every society, people have done so and sometimes, especially when things are really difficult.
Alice(ph) in Prescott, Arizona, hi, you're on TALK OF THE NATION.	alice(ph) in prescott arizona. hi you're on talk of the	Alice(ph) in Prescott Arizona hi you're on TALK OF THE	alice(ph) in prescott, arizona, hi, you're on talk of the nation.
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Hi there. Well, my comment is - and people are sort of talking similarly to this - do you look at your glass as if it were half-empty or half-full?	hi there. well my, comment is - and, people are sort, of talking similarly to this - do you look at your glass as if it were half-empty or	Hi there Well my comment is - and, people are sort of talking similarly to this - do you look at your glass as if it were half-empty or	hi there. well, my comment is - and people are sort of talking similarly to this - do you look at your glass as if it were half-empty or half-full?
And I have, for a long time now, chosen to live my life looking at all the good I have in my life. And by far not a perfect life, but I do have a great deal of good, and I try to focus on what I have and deal with any problems that come up, but not let them overwhelm me or get me down, or dwell on them.	and i have for a long time now chosen to live my life looking at, all the good i; have in my life and by far not a perfect life but i do have a great deal, of good and i try to focus on what i have and deal with any, problems that; come up but, not. let them overwhelm me, or get me down or dwell on	And I have for a long time now chosen to live my life looking at all the; good I have in. my life And by far not a perfect life but I do have a great deal of good and I try to focus on what I have and deal with any problems that come up but not let them overwhelm. me. or get me down or dwell on	and i have, for a long time now, chosen to live my life looking at all the good i have in my life. and by far not a perfect life, but i do have a great deal of good, and i try to focus on what i have and deal with any problems that come up, but not let them overwhelm me or get me down, or dwell on them.
Thanks for your call, Alice. Go ahead.	thanks. for your call alice go	Thanks. for, your call Alice Go.	thanks for your call, alice. go ahead.
Thank you very much. Yes. And that whole question of how you look at your life - the glass half-empty, as you say, or glass half-full - that's certainly is something important to consider in your life. And people differ very much from the point of view of how they look at particular circumstances. At the same time, the...	thank you very much yes and that whole question of how, you look at your. life - the glass half-empty. as you say or glass half-full - that's certainly, is something important to consider in your life and people differ very much from the point of view of how they; look at particular circumstances at the same time there...	Thank you very much Yes And that whole question of, how. you look at your life - the glass half-empty as you say or glass half-full - that's certainly is something important to consider in your life And people differ very much from the point of view of how they look at particular circumstances At the, same time there's...	thank you very much. yes. and that whole question of how you look at your life - the glass half-empty, as you say, or glass half-full - that's certainly is something important to consider in your life. and people differ very much from the point of view of how they look at particular circumstances. at the same time, the...
Okay. Don in Charleston, South Carolina.	okay. don in charleston south	Okay Don in Charleston South	okay. don in charleston, south carolina.
Yes. I had an unexpected experience of joy in my mostly rather dreary life earlier this summer. I've been - had an old, old border collie, and he almost died - and spent weeks, you know, just waiting on him hand and foot and feeding him through an eyedropper. And he's recovered pretty well, but it was a very difficult ...	yes i had an; unexpected experience. of joy in. my mostly rather dreary life earlier this summer i've been - had an old old border collie and he almost died - and spent weeks you know just waiting. on him hand and foot and feeding him through an eyedropper and. he's recovered pretty, well but, it, was; a very difficult...	Yes I had an, unexpected experience of joy in my mostly rather dreary life earlier this summer I've been - had an old old border collie and he almost died - and spent weeks you know just waiting. on him hand and foot and feeding him through an eyedropper And he's recovered pretty. well but it was a very difficult exper...	yes. i had an unexpected experience of joy in my mostly rather dreary life earlier this summer. i've been - had an old, old border collie, and he almost died - and spent weeks, you know, just waiting on him hand and foot and feeding him through an eyedropper. and he's recovered pretty well, but it was a very difficult ...
And I've had a great aunt that took care of her sister when she was in her late 80s, that the younger sister was - the older sister was well into her 90s. And you just didn't - I just didn't understand how it was humanly possible to care for an invalid at that age. But I - kind of seeing now maybe what kept her going t...	and i've had a great aunt, that took care of her sister when she was in her late 80s that the younger. sister was - the older sister was well into her 90s and, you just didn't - i just didn't understand how it was humanly possible to care for an invalid at that age but i - kind of seeing now maybe what kept her going t...	And I've had. a great aunt that took care of her sister when she was in her, late 80s that the younger sister was - the older sister was well into her 90s And you just didn't - I just didn't understand. how it was humanly possible to care for an invalid at that age But I - kind of seeing now maybe what kept her going t...	and i've had a great aunt that took care of her sister when she was in her late 80s, that the younger sister was - the older sister was well into her 90s. and you just didn't - i just didn't understand how it was humanly possible to care for an invalid at that age. but i - kind of seeing now maybe what kept her going t...
Yes. Your description, that's really very important. And to go through the experience that you had of joy, as you say, and what you found and what you could do, that could, in turn, teach you to look at how other people deal with difficulties - and the joy that they might find even in circumstances that could seem very...	yes your description that's really, very important and to go through the experience that you had of joy as you say and what you found and what you could do that could, in turn teach you to look, at how other people deal with difficulties; - and the joy that they might find even in circumstances that could seem very ver...	Yes Your description that's really very important, And to go through the experience that you had of joy as you say and what you found and. what you could do that. could in turn teach you, to look at how other people deal with difficulties - and the joy that they might find even, in circumstances, that could seem very v...	yes. your description, that's really very important. and to go through the experience that you had of joy, as you say, and what you found and what you could do, that could, in turn, teach you to look at how other people deal with difficulties - and the joy that they might find even in circumstances that could seem very...
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A couple of emails along that same point. From Sheila, in Florida - Jacksonville -we hear: When I finally understood that perhaps all of the unpleasantness I had experienced in my life was a lesson, is when she learned about happiness. That lesson is to learn the ability to identify and really know what happiness is. H...	a couple of emails along that same point from sheila in florida - jacksonville -we hear: when, i finally understood that; perhaps all of the unpleasantness i had experienced in my life was a lesson is when she learned about happiness that lesson. is to learn the ability; to, identify and really know what happiness is h...	A couple of emails along. that same point From Sheila in Florida - Jacksonville -we hear: When I finally, understood that perhaps all of the unpleasantness, I had experienced in my life was a lesson is. when she learned about happiness That, lesson is to learn the ability, to identify and really know what happiness is ...	a couple of emails along that same point. from sheila, in florida - jacksonville -we hear: when i finally understood that perhaps all of the unpleasantness i had experienced in my life was a lesson, is when she learned about happiness. that lesson is to learn the ability to identify and really know what happiness is. h...
And here's an email that I think everyone can identify with. This is from Brian in San Antonio, Texas. He writes: My wife and I had a discussion about happiness last night, where she complained about not knowing how to find happiness. She's so stressed at work that she can't find the time to explore what would make her...	and here's an email that i think everyone can identify with this is from brian in san antonio texas he writes: my wife and. i had a discussion about happiness last night where she complained about not knowing how to find happiness she's so stressed at work that she can't find the time to explore what would make her hap...	And here's an email that I think everyone can identify with This is from Brian, in San. Antonio Texas He writes: My. wife and I had a discussion about happiness last night where. she complained about. not knowing how to find happiness. She's so, stressed at work. that she can't find the time to, explore, what would mak...	and here's an email that i think everyone can identify with. this is from brian in san antonio, texas. he writes: my wife and i had a discussion about happiness last night, where she complained about not knowing how to find happiness. she's so stressed at work that she can't find the time to explore what would make her...
Yes, it is. I'm very interested both in Sheila's and in Brian's, and those - what they're talking about really, again, is trying to explore what it is that makes for happiness, how we can deal - stress, I think, is just something that everybody would agree makes it more difficult to find, sort of, spot of happiness in ...	yes it is i'm very interested, both in. sheila's and in brian's and those - what they're talking about really again is trying to. explore what it is that makes for, happiness how we can deal - stress i think is just something that; everybody would agree makes it more difficult to find sort of spot of happiness in the m...	Yes it is I'm very, interested; both in Sheila's and in Brian's and those - what they're talking about really again is trying to explore what it is that. makes for happiness how, we can deal - stress I think is just something, that everybody, would agree, makes it more difficult to find sort of spot of happiness in the...	yes, it is. i'm very interested both in sheila's and in brian's, and those - what they're talking about really, again, is trying to explore what it is that makes for happiness, how we can deal - stress, i think, is just something that everybody would agree makes it more difficult to find, sort of, spot of happiness in ...
And it's hard to tell someone with two children and two jobs, oh, just choose to be happy. Doesn't always works that way, huh?	and it's hard to tell someone with two children and two jobs oh just. choose to be happy doesn't always works that way	And, it's. hard to tell someone with two children and two jobs oh just choose to be happy Doesn't always works that way	and it's hard to tell someone with two children and two jobs, oh, just choose to be happy. doesn't always works that way, huh?
Right. I think that is a very good point. Just choosing doesn't work. On the other hand, there may very well be things that one can do to improve the situation, once one steps back and says, okay, are all these elements in my life ones that I must have there? Or can I choose, perhaps, to set some aside for a later time...	right i think that is a very good point just choosing doesn't work on the other hand there may very well be things, that one can do to improve the situation once; one, steps back and says okay are all these, elements in my life ones that i must have there? or can i choose, perhaps. to set some aside for a later	Right I think that is a very. good point Just. choosing, doesn't work On the other hand there. may very well be things that one can do to improve the situation, once one steps back and says okay. are all these elements in my life ones, that I must have there? Or can I, choose perhaps to set some aside for a later	right. i think that is a very good point. just choosing doesn't work. on the other hand, there may very well be things that one can do to improve the situation, once one steps back and says, okay, are all these elements in my life ones that i must have there? or can i choose, perhaps, to set some aside for a later time...
Now, Sissela Bok, I have to know: What did you ultimately hope to achieve by joining together the writings and thinking and results of philosophers, writers, poets, scientists - all of these different students of happiness?	now sissela bok i have. to know: what did; you ultimately hope to; achieve by joining together the writings and thinking, and results of, philosophers writers. poets scientists. - all of. these different students of	Now Sissela Bok I have; to know: What, did you ultimately hope to achieve by joining together the writings and, thinking and results of, philosophers writers poets scientists - all of these different students of	now, sissela bok, i have to know: what did you ultimately hope to achieve by joining together the writings and thinking and results of philosophers, writers, poets, scientists - all of these different students of happiness?