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For many of those eligible to receive food stamps, the decision is not easy. Just listen to Felix there. Washington Post reporter Eli Saslow recently profiled Dillie Nerios, a benefits coordinator for the Treasure Coast Food Bank in Fort Pierce, Florida. One of Dillie's jobs is to make sure those in need in her region ...	for many of those eligible to receive. food stamps the decision. is not easy just listen to felix there washington post. reporter eli saslow recently profiled dillie nerios a benefits coordinator for the treasure coast food bank in fort pierce florida one of dillie's jobs is to. make. sure those in need, in her region ...	For many of those eligible to receive, food stamps the decision is not easy Just listen to Felix there Washington Post reporter Eli Saslow recently profiled Dillie. Nerios a benefits, coordinator for the Treasure Coast Food Bank in Fort Pierce Florida One of Dillie's jobs is to make sure those in need in her region kno...	for many of those eligible to receive food stamps, the decision is not easy. just listen to felix there. washington post reporter eli saslow recently profiled dillie nerios, a benefits coordinator for the treasure coast food bank in fort pierce, florida. one of dillie's jobs is to make sure those in need in her region ...
Dillie Nerios joins us now from member station WKCS in Fort Pierce. Nice to have you on TALK OF THE NATION today.	dillie nerios joins us now from member station wkcs; in fort pierce nice; to have you on talk of the nation	Dillie Nerios joins us now from member station WKCS in Fort Pierce Nice to have you, on TALK OF. THE NATION,	dillie nerios joins us now from member station wkcs in fort pierce. nice to have you on talk of the nation today.
Yes, hi, Neal, thanks for having me.	yes hi neal thanks for having.	Yes. hi. Neal thanks for having	yes, hi, neal, thanks for having me.
And as you do your outreach, Dillie, what do you find? Do most people who are eligible for SNAP even know that they are?	and as you do your outreach dillie what do you find? do most people who are eligible for snap even, know that they	And as. you do, your outreach Dillie what do you find? Do most people who are eligible for SNAP. even know that they	and as you do your outreach, dillie, what do you find? do most people who are eligible for snap even know that they are?
Well, some people that I approach, most of them feel like - well, they're not sure. We - it's on a, you know, case by case, and most of them when I first approach them aren't necessarily sure. But when we start talking a little bit about their income and their expenses, it can become pretty clear that they really shoul...	well some people that. i approach, most of them feel like - well they're not sure we - it's on a you know case by case, and most of them when i first approach them aren't necessarily, sure but when we start talking, a little bit about their income and their expenses it can become pretty clear that. they really should b...	Well some people that I approach most of them feel like - well they're not sure We - it's on a you know case by case and most of them, when I, first approach them aren't necessarily sure; But when we start talking a little bit about their income, and their expenses it can, become pretty clear that they really should be...	well, some people that i approach, most of them feel like - well, they're not sure. we - it's on a, you know, case by case, and most of them when i first approach them aren't necessarily sure. but when we start talking a little bit about their income and their expenses, it can become pretty clear that they really shoul...
And that Washington Post story had a really interesting account of your outreach toward the elder community, people who are - we talked about a greater percentage of those eligible now applying for food stamps, but in fact in the elderly community it's - most of those who are eligible do not apply. And you've got an in...	and that washington post story had a really interesting account of your outreach toward the elder community. people who, are - we talked about a greater percentage of those eligible now applying for food stamps. but in fact in the, elderly community it's - most of those who are eligible do; not apply and you've got an ...	And that Washington Post story had a really interesting account of your outreach toward the elder community people who are - we talked about a greater percentage of those, eligible now applying for food stamps but in fact in the elderly, community it's - most of; those. who are eligible do not apply And you've got an, ...	and that washington post story had a really interesting account of your outreach toward the elder community, people who are - we talked about a greater percentage of those eligible now applying for food stamps, but in fact in the elderly community it's - most of those who are eligible do not apply. and you've got an in...
Well, I've always had a connection to that population, and so back in 2010 the Treasure Cove Food Bank, who is a partner, of course, with Feeding America, started this mobile outreach program, and that's to go out within - throughout our four-county area, with the help of our partner agencies, our food pantries, to go ...	well, i've, always had a connection to that, population and so back in 2010 the treasure cove food bank who is a partner of course. with feeding america started this mobile outreach program and that's to go out within - throughout our four-county area with the help of our partner agencies our food pantries to go out an...	Well I've always had a connection to that population and so back in 2010 the Treasure Cove Food Bank who is a partner of course with Feeding America started this, mobile outreach program and that's to go out within - throughout our four-county area with the help of our partner agencies our food pantries to go out and r...	well, i've always had a connection to that population, and so back in 2010 the treasure cove food bank, who is a partner, of course, with feeding america, started this mobile outreach program, and that's to go out within - throughout our four-county area, with the help of our partner agencies, our food pantries, to go ...
So in doing so, then I can go to the pantry, spend some time while their hours of operation are - when they're open, and speak to the people that come through the lines. And this is how I have found that there is a lot of seniors that'll take the time to come through, you know, a food line, a food pantry line, but they...	so in doing so then i can. go to the pantry spend some time while their hours of operation are - when they're open and speak to, the people that come through the lines and. this is how i have found that there is a lot of seniors that'll take the time to; come through you know a food, line a food pantry line but they wo...	So in doing so then I, can go to the pantry spend some time, while their hours, of. operation, are - when they're open, and speak to the people that come through the lines And this is how, I have found, that there, is a lot of seniors that'll take, the time. to, come through you know a food line. a food pantry line but...	so in doing so, then i can go to the pantry, spend some time while their hours of operation are - when they're open, and speak to the people that come through the lines. and this is how i have found that there is a lot of seniors that'll take the time to come through, you know, a food line, a food pantry line, but they...
That's exactly what they say. They say no, no, that belongs to the poor people, or that - you know, I get a check. I think a lot of them believe that because they get a Social Security check, they won't qualify, and that's not true. So - and again, it's all on a one - a case by case, and that's what we strive to do is ...	that's exactly what they say they say no no that belongs to the poor people or that - you know i get a check i think a, lot; of them believe that because they get a social security; check, they, won't, qualify and that's not true so - and again it's all on, a one - a case by case and that's what we strive, to do is to ...	That's exactly what they, say They say no no that belongs, to the poor people or that - you. know I get a check I. think a, lot of them believe that because they get a Social Security check they, won't qualify and that's not true So - and again it's all on a one - a case, by case and that's what we strive to do is to t...	that's exactly what they say. they say no, no, that belongs to the poor people, or that - you know, i get a check. i think a lot of them believe that because they get a social security check, they won't qualify, and that's not true. so - and again, it's all on a one - a case by case, and that's what we strive to do is ...
And do you also find that those who are in need - well, SNAP can make an important difference in their lives.	and, do you also find that those who, are in need - well snap can make an important difference in their	And do you also find that those who are in need - well SNAP can make an important difference in their	and do you also find that those who are in need - well, snap can make an important difference in their lives.
Of course, and they could, instead of skimping on meals or something, they can go out and buy healthy, nutritious foods they need and just put food on the table throughout the month and not just - you know, they skimp a lot.	of course and they could instead of skimping on meals or something they can go out and buy. healthy nutritious foods they need and just put. food on. the table, throughout; the month and, not just, - you know they skimp a	Of course and they, could instead of skimping on meals or something they can, go out and buy healthy nutritious foods they, need and just. put food on. the table throughout, the month. and not; just - you know they skimp a	of course, and they could, instead of skimping on meals or something, they can go out and buy healthy, nutritious foods they need and just put food on the table throughout the month and not just - you know, they skimp a lot.
Let's see if we can get a caller in on the conversation. This is Jane, and Jane's on the line with us from Little Rock.	let's see if we can get a caller in on the conversation this is jane and jane's on the, line with us from, little	Let's see if we can get a; caller in, on the conversation; This is Jane and Jane's on the line with us from Little	let's see if we can get a caller in on the conversation. this is jane, and jane's on the line with us from little rock.
Hi, thanks, Neal.	hi thanks	Hi thanks	hi, thanks, neal.
Hi, go ahead, Jane.	hi go ahead,	Hi go ahead	hi, go ahead, jane.
Yeah, I graduated college in 2011, and I - I mean I grew up in a middle-class family, and I worked on Barack Obama's 2008 campaign, but when I graduated from college, I had student loan debt, and I was unable to find a job that could really - so pretty much at the end of the month I didn't have enough money to really b...	yeah i graduated college in 2011, and i - i mean i grew up in a middle-class. family and. i worked on, barack obama's. 2008 campaign but when i graduated from college i had student loan debt and i was unable to find a job that. could really - so; pretty much at the end of the month i, didn't, have enough money, to real...	Yeah I graduated college in 2011, and I - I, mean I grew up in a middle-class, family and I worked on Barack Obama's 2008 campaign but when; I graduated from college I had, student loan debt and I was unable to find a job that could, really - so pretty much at the end of the month I didn't have enough money to really b...	yeah, i graduated college in 2011, and i - i mean i grew up in a middle-class family, and i worked on barack obama's 2008 campaign, but when i graduated from college, i had student loan debt, and i was unable to find a job that could really - so pretty much at the end of the month i didn't have enough money to really b...
And so last April I looked at the SNAP application and was really considering it. And, I mean, I admit the stigma was definitely there. I couldn't believe that I was in this position, and - but I knew that it was something that I needed to. But ironically I applied for a job with the Arkansas Hunger Relief Alliance, an...	and so last, april i looked at the snap application and was really, considering it and i mean i admit the, stigma was; definitely there i couldn't believe that i was in this position and - but i knew, that it was, something that, i needed to but ironically i applied; for a job with, the arkansas hunger relief alliance ...	And so last, April I looked. at the SNAP application and was really considering it And I mean I admit the stigma was definitely. there I couldn't believe that I was in this position and - but I knew that it was something that I needed to But ironically I applied for a job with the Arkansas Hunger Relief Alliance and I ...	and so last april i looked at the snap application and was really considering it. and, i mean, i admit the stigma was definitely there. i couldn't believe that i was in this position, and - but i knew that it was something that i needed to. but ironically i applied for a job with the arkansas hunger relief alliance, an...
And because of that, I didn't have to myself go on SNAP, but every day I see people that struggle just like I did. And it's not something that is just for people that are poor. It's for anybody, really, that is struggling with a financial situation that just needs help and assistance. And that's - I mean, that's my sto...	and because of that i. didn't have, to myself go on snap but. every day i see people; that struggle, just like i, did and it's not something that is just for, people that, are poor it's for anybody really that is struggling with. a financial situation that just needs help and assistance and that's - i, mean that's my s...	And because of that I didn't have to myself go on SNAP but every day I see people that struggle just like I did And it's not something that is just for people that are poor It's for anybody really that is struggling with a financial situation that just needs help and assistance And that's - I mean that's my; story behi...	and because of that, i didn't have to myself go on snap, but every day i see people that struggle just like i did. and it's not something that is just for people that are poor. it's for anybody, really, that is struggling with a financial situation that just needs help and assistance. and that's - i mean, that's my sto...
So you're doing exactly what Dillie Nerios is doing, reaching out to people?	so you're doing exactly what dillie nerios is doing reaching out to	So you're doing exactly what Dillie Nerios is doing reaching out to	so you're doing exactly what dillie nerios is doing, reaching out to people?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we work with mobile enrollment units. So we have four SNAPmobiles that travel around the state, and Arkansas is a very hungry place. A lot of people struggle with food insecurity. A lot of people - like she was talking about, the elderly, they think that - because like she said - they're getting a Soc...	yeah yeah yeah we work with mobile enrollment units so we have four snapmobiles that travel around the state and arkansas is a very hungry place a lot of people struggle with food insecurity a lot of people - like she was talking about the elderly they. think that - because like she said - they're getting a social secu...	Yeah yeah Yeah we work with mobile enrollment units So we have four SNAPmobiles that travel around the state and Arkansas is a very, hungry place A lot of people struggle with food insecurity A lot of people - like she was. talking about the elderly they think that - because like she said - they're getting a Social Sec...	yeah, yeah. yeah, we work with mobile enrollment units. so we have four snapmobiles that travel around the state, and arkansas is a very hungry place. a lot of people struggle with food insecurity. a lot of people - like she was talking about, the elderly, they think that - because like she said - they're getting a soc...
It's overcoming those barriers and the stigma and the lies that people believe about SNAP. But unfortunately our culture and political system has influence which is just not helpful at all to people that really need help.	it's overcoming those barriers and the stigma and the lies that people believe about snap but unfortunately our culture and political system has influence which is just not helpful at all to people that really need	It's overcoming those barriers and the stigma and the lies that people believe about SNAP But unfortunately our culture and political system has, influence which is just not helpful at all to people that really need	it's overcoming those barriers and the stigma and the lies that people believe about snap. but unfortunately our culture and political system has influence which is just not helpful at all to people that really need help.
I wonder if I could ask you: As a younger person, well, if people like you, just out of college, if they're unable to find a job, well, this is a government program. Do you find that they're easier to get to sign up?	i wonder if i could ask you: as a younger person well if people like you just out of college if they're unable to find a job well this is a government program do you find that they're easier to get to sign	I wonder if I, could ask you: As a younger, person well, if people like you just out of college if they're unable to find a. job well this is a government program Do you find that they're easier to get to. sign	i wonder if i could ask you: as a younger person, well, if people like you, just out of college, if they're unable to find a job, well, this is a government program. do you find that they're easier to get to sign up?
Yeah, I mean, it - thankfully I grew up with the awareness of food stamps and SNAP. And I mean it wasn't very hard for me to figure out how to apply for SNAP, but I'm sure there are people that - I mean I know that there are people that really do have a challenge with that. So yeah, and especially we see in Arkansas pe...	yeah i mean it - thankfully i grew up with the awareness of food stamps and snap, and i mean it wasn't, very hard for me to figure out how. to apply for snap, but i'm, sure there. are people that - i mean i know that there are people that really do have a challenge with that so yeah and especially we see in arkansas. p...	Yeah I mean it. - thankfully I. grew up with the awareness of food stamps and SNAP And I mean it wasn't very hard for me to figure out how to apply for SNAP but I'm sure there, are people that - I mean I know that there are people that really do have, a challenge with that So yeah, and especially we, see in Arkansas pe...	yeah, i mean, it - thankfully i grew up with the awareness of food stamps and snap. and i mean it wasn't very hard for me to figure out how to apply for snap, but i'm sure there are people that - i mean i know that there are people that really do have a challenge with that. so yeah, and especially we see in arkansas pe...
So I'm thankful that where I live, that people influenced me to go apply for SNAP, And it still wasn't something that was an easy decision to do. There was a lot of stigma there, and I just had to get over it and accept that it was an OK thing, and it was something I really needed. So, yeah.	so, i'm thankful that where i live. that people; influenced me to. go apply for snap and it still wasn't something, that was an easy decision to do. there was a lot of stigma there and i just had to get over it, and accept that it was an ok thing and it was something i really needed so	So, I'm thankful that where I live that people influenced; me to go apply for SNAP And it still, wasn't something that was an easy decision, to do There was a, lot of. stigma there and I just. had to get over it and accept that it was an OK thing, and it was something I really needed So	so i'm thankful that where i live, that people influenced me to go apply for snap, and it still wasn't something that was an easy decision to do. there was a lot of stigma there, and i just had to get over it and accept that it was an ok thing, and it was something i really needed. so, yeah.
Jane, thanks very much for the call.	jane thanks very. much for the	Jane thanks very much for the	jane, thanks very much for the call.
Yeah. Thank you.	yeah thank	Yeah Thank	yeah. thank you.
So long. And, Dillie Nerios, as you heard her story, I wonder, there's a sense, if you're a younger person, that there's no sense of failure. If you're an older person who's worked their whole life and suddenly finds themselves in a different category, it's really hard to apply for this, isn't it?	so long and dillie nerios as you heard her story i wonder. there's a sense if, you're a. younger person. that. there's no sense of failure if you're an older person, who's worked their whole life and suddenly finds themselves in a different category it's really hard to apply for this isn't	So long And Dillie, Nerios as you heard her story I, wonder there's a sense if you're a younger person that there's no sense, of failure If you're an older person who's worked their. whole life and suddenly finds themselves in a different category it's really hard to apply for, this isn't	so long. and, dillie nerios, as you heard her story, i wonder, there's a sense, if you're a younger person, that there's no sense of failure. if you're an older person who's worked their whole life and suddenly finds themselves in a different category, it's really hard to apply for this, isn't it?
Well, for most of the senior population, first of all, most of the applications are done online. So they're afraid of computers, or they're - they just - they have no knowledge of computers, and so they don't really get the exposure. But this is why it's so good to have the - to partner with our agencies, where you can...	well for most. of. the senior population first of all most of the applications are, done, online so they're afraid of; computers or, they're - they just - they have no knowledge of computers and so they don't really get the exposure but this is why it's so. good, to have the - to partner with our. agencies where you ca...	Well for most of the senior population first of all most of the applications are done online So they're, afraid of computers or they're - they just - they have. no knowledge of computers and so they. don't really get. the exposure But this is why it's so good to have the - to partner with our agencies where you can go;...	well, for most of the senior population, first of all, most of the applications are done online. so they're afraid of computers, or they're - they just - they have no knowledge of computers, and so they don't really get the exposure. but this is why it's so good to have the - to partner with our agencies, where you can...
So we get these clients, and I'll schedule myself out there, go out there, and then I'll ask them to bring, you know, the appropriate documents, and then we'll sit down and do their application. The most wonderful part of this is when they come back to you with their EBT card, which makes it so much easier now - it's m...	so we get these clients and i'll schedule myself; out there. go out there, and then i'll. ask them to bring you know the appropriate documents and. then we'll sit down and do their application. the most wonderful part of this is, when they come back to you with their ebt card, which makes it so much easier now - it's m...	So we, get these clients and I'll schedule myself out there go out there and then I'll ask them to bring you know the appropriate documents and then we'll, sit down and do their application The most wonderful part of this. is when they come back to you with their EBT card which makes it so much; easier now - it's; much...	so we get these clients, and i'll schedule myself out there, go out there, and then i'll ask them to bring, you know, the appropriate documents, and then we'll sit down and do their application. the most wonderful part of this is when they come back to you with their ebt card, which makes it so much easier now - it's m...
Here's an email we have from Tyner(ph): I'm a 22-year-old white male student. I've applied for SNAP twice. Both times, I've never completed the process because I know that I would feel extreme shame when trying to use it. I fear being stigmatized for being part of the food stamp culture. Living on $8,000 a year with mi...	here's an email we have from; tyner(ph): i'm a 22-year-old white male student i've applied for snap. twice both times i've never completed the process because i know that i would feel extreme shame when trying to use it i fear being stigmatized for being part of the food stamp culture living on $8,000 a year with minim...	Here's an email, we have from Tyner(ph): I'm a 22-year-old white male student I've applied for SNAP twice Both times I've. never completed. the; process because I, know that I would feel extreme shame when trying to use it I fear being stigmatized for being part of. the food stamp culture Living, on $8,000 a year with ...	here's an email we have from tyner(ph): i'm a 22-year-old white male student. i've applied for snap twice. both times, i've never completed the process because i know that i would feel extreme shame when trying to use it. i fear being stigmatized for being part of the food stamp culture. living on $8,000 a year with mi...
So it's not just older people that have problems with the stigma. This is from Mandy in Tulsa: SNAP was an amazing assistance after my late husband became ill, and then after he passed away. Caring for him was a full-time job in itself. He was no longer able to continue his welding career. We moved to Oklahoma to be cl...	so it's not just older people that have problems with the stigma this is from mandy in tulsa: snap was an amazing assistance, after my late husband became ill and then after he passed away caring for him was a full-time job in itself he was, no longer able to continue his, welding career we moved to, oklahoma to be clo...	So, it's not just older people that have problems with the stigma This is from, Mandy in Tulsa: SNAP was an amazing assistance, after my late husband became, ill and then. after he passed away Caring for him was a full-time job in, itself. He was no; longer able to continue his welding career We moved to Oklahoma to be...	so it's not just older people that have problems with the stigma. this is from mandy in tulsa: snap was an amazing assistance after my late husband became ill, and then after he passed away. caring for him was a full-time job in itself. he was no longer able to continue his welding career. we moved to oklahoma to be cl...
We're talking about SNAP, the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, also known as food stamps. You're listening to TALK OF THE NATION, from NPR News.	we're talking about snap the supplemental nutritional assistance program also, known as food stamps, you're listening to talk of the nation from, npr.	We're talking about SNAP the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program also known as food stamps You're listening to TALK; OF THE NATION from NPR	we're talking about snap, the supplemental nutritional assistance program, also known as food stamps. you're listening to talk of the nation, from npr news.
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Well, I wanted to talk about - I'm a young married woman. I'm 25. We got on food stamps about a year and a half ago. It was a tough decision. And, in fact, if husband hadn't really kind of encouraged me to do it, I would have been very much against it. What swayed my decision eventually was just realizing how unhealthy...	well i wanted, to talk about - i'm. a young married woman i'm 25. we got on food stamps about a year and a half ago it was a tough decision and in fact if husband, hadn't really kind of encouraged me to do it i would, have been very much. against it what swayed my decision eventually was just realizing how unhealthy. t...	Well I. wanted to, talk about - I'm a young married woman I'm 25. We got on food. stamps about, a year and a half ago It was a tough decision And in fact if husband hadn't really kind of encouraged me to do it, I would have been very much against it What swayed my decision eventually was. just realizing how unhealthy t...	well, i wanted to talk about - i'm a young married woman. i'm 25. we got on food stamps about a year and a half ago. it was a tough decision. and, in fact, if husband hadn't really kind of encouraged me to do it, i would have been very much against it. what swayed my decision eventually was just realizing how unhealthy...
The groceries that we were purchasing were just, you know, really nutritionally empty. You know, you can only eat ramen so many times. Now, we - I mean, it's been a huge help. He works full-time. I work part-time. That's all that's, you know, available in our area. And it's a huge stress relief to be able to say, yes, ...	the groceries. that we were purchasing were just you know really nutritionally. empty you know you can only eat. ramen so many times now we - i mean it's been, a, huge help he works full-time i work, part-time that's all that's you know available in our area, and it's a huge stress relief to be able to say yes i can go...	The groceries that we were purchasing were just you know really nutritionally empty, You know you can only eat ramen so many, times, Now we - I mean it's been a huge help. He works, full-time I. work part-time That's all that's you know available in our. area And it's a huge stress relief to be able to say yes I can go...	the groceries that we were purchasing were just, you know, really nutritionally empty. you know, you can only eat ramen so many times. now, we - i mean, it's been a huge help. he works full-time. i work part-time. that's all that's, you know, available in our area. and it's a huge stress relief to be able to say, yes, ...
And that's important, Dillie Nerios, as you talk to people about this program, the difference between able to get, well, just the things you can afford and eating correctly, eating properly.	and that's important dillie nerios as you talk to people about this program the difference between able to get well, just the things you. can afford, and eating correctly eating.	And that's important Dillie Nerios as you talk to people about this program the difference between able to get well just the things you can afford and, eating correctly eating	and that's important, dillie nerios, as you talk to people about this program, the difference between able to get, well, just the things you can afford and eating correctly, eating properly.
That is correct. And this is so beneficial for the folks that are out there who do receive SNAP benefits, because they can - don't have to skimp on their grocery shopping. They can buy better things with the SNAP.	that is correct and this is so beneficial for the folks that are out. there who do receive snap, benefits because they can - don't have to skimp on their grocery shopping they can buy better things with the	That, is correct And this is, so beneficial for, the folks that are out there who do, receive SNAP benefits because they can. - don't have to skimp on, their grocery shopping; They can. buy better things with the	that is correct. and this is so beneficial for the folks that are out there who do receive snap benefits, because they can - don't have to skimp on their grocery shopping. they can buy better things with the snap.