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I mean, how much do you think this is about associations, really? Because to say, you know, all school districts in America all of a sudden said: Okay, all papers have to mark up papers in blue ink. After 20 years or so, wouldn't kids start associating blue ink with marked up papers?	i mean how much do you think this is about, associations, really? because to say you know all school, districts in, america all of a sudden said: okay all papers have to, mark up papers in blue ink after 20 years or so wouldn't kids start associating blue ink with marked up	I mean how, much do you think this is about associations really? Because, to say, you know all school districts in America all of a sudden said: Okay all papers have to mark up papers in blue ink After 20 years or so wouldn't kids start associating blue ink with marked up	i mean, how much do you think this is about associations, really? because to say, you know, all school districts in america all of a sudden said: okay, all papers have to mark up papers in blue ink. after 20 years or so, wouldn't kids start associating blue ink with marked up papers?
In my view, it is mostly due to the association that's built up over time. It wouldn't happen immediately, of course, but in a couple of decades, as you suggest, that's what would happen. There are a few reasons to believe that maybe red is special in this regard.	in my view it is mostly due to the association that's built up over time. it wouldn't, happen immediately of course. but in, a couple of decades as; you suggest that's what would happen there; are, a few reasons to believe that. maybe red is special in this.	In my view it is mostly due to, the association that's built up over time It wouldn't happen. immediately of course but in a couple. of decades as you suggest that's what would happen There are a few reasons to believe that maybe red. is special in, this	in my view, it is mostly due to the association that's built up over time. it wouldn't happen immediately, of course, but in a couple of decades, as you suggest, that's what would happen. there are a few reasons to believe that maybe red is special in this regard.
They did a study a few years back in the journal Nature where Olympians in combat sports who were wearing red actually were more likely to win. And the author suggested that had to do with red activating aggression, dominance and testosterone.	they, did a study a few years back, in the journal nature where olympians in combat sports who were wearing red actually were more likely to win and; the author suggested that had to do. with red activating aggression dominance and	They did a study a few years back in the journal. Nature where Olympians in combat sports who were wearing red actually were more likely to win And the. author suggested that had to do, with; red activating aggression dominance and	they did a study a few years back in the journal nature where olympians in combat sports who were wearing red actually were more likely to win. and the author suggested that had to do with red activating aggression, dominance and testosterone.
Professor Rutchick, you are a psychology professor at Cal State Northridge, right?	professor rutchick you are a psychology professor, at cal state northridge.	Professor Rutchick you are a psychology professor at Cal State Northridge,	professor rutchick, you are a psychology professor at cal state northridge, right?
I am.	i	I	i am.
And when you grade papers, what color pen do you use?	and. when you grade papers what color pen do you	And when you grade papers what color pen; do you	and when you grade papers, what color pen do you use?
I use a red pen, actually. It's - I have to override somehow my urge to be nice and kind.	i use a red pen actually. it's - i have to override somehow my urge. to be nice, and	I; use a red pen actually It's - I have to override somehow, my urge to be nice and	i use a red pen, actually. it's - i have to override somehow my urge to be nice and kind.
That's psychology Professor Abraham Rutchick of Cal State University, Northridge. He joined me from our studios at NPR West in Southern California.	that's, psychology professor abraham rutchick of cal state university northridge he joined me from our. studios. at npr west in southern	That's psychology Professor Abraham Rutchick of Cal State University Northridge He joined me from our studios at NPR West in Southern	that's psychology professor abraham rutchick of cal state university, northridge. he joined me from our studios at npr west in southern california.
Professor Rutchick, thanks so much.	professor rutchick thanks so	Professor Rutchick thanks so	professor rutchick, thanks so much.
Thanks very much for having me, Guy.	thanks very much for having me	Thanks very much for having me	thanks very much for having me, guy.
According to the World Bank and global nonprofits, the Internet is like electricity - a must-have for anyone trying to make it today. The CEO of Facebook agrees.	according to the world bank, and global nonprofits the internet is like electricity - a must-have for anyone trying to make it today the ceo of facebook,	According to the World Bank. and. global nonprofits the Internet is like electricity - a must-have for anyone trying to make, it. today The CEO, of Facebook,	according to the world bank and global nonprofits, the internet is like electricity - a must-have for anyone trying to make it today. the ceo of facebook agrees.
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Over the past month, about a quarter of high school senior classes took a vote and named one of their number most likely to succeed. It seems like a harmless ritual that doesn't affect much beyond the yearbook, but more and more schools have decided to end these polls in part to the concern that the title can put more ...	over the past month about a quarter of high school senior classes took a vote and named one of their number most likely to succeed it seems like a harmless ritual that doesn't affect much beyond the yearbook but more and more schools have decided to end these. polls in part to the concern that the. title, can put more ...	Over the past month about a quarter of high school senior, classes; took. a vote and named one of their number most likely to succeed It seems, like. a harmless ritual that doesn't affect much, beyond the yearbook but more and more schools have decided to end these polls in part to the concern that the title can put mo...	over the past month, about a quarter of high school senior classes took a vote and named one of their number most likely to succeed. it seems like a harmless ritual that doesn't affect much beyond the yearbook, but more and more schools have decided to end these polls in part to the concern that the title can put more ...
If you were voted most likely to succeed, did it turn out to be a curse or a blessing? What effect did it have on your life? Give us a call: 800-989-8255. Email: talk@npr.org. You can also join the conversation on our website. That's at npr.org. Click on TALK OF THE NATION.	if you were voted most likely to succeed did it turn out to be a curse or a blessing? what effect. did it have on your life? give us a call: 800-989-8255. email: talk@npr.org you can. also join the conversation on our website that's at npr.org click on talk of the	If you were voted most likely to succeed did it, turn out to, be a curse or a blessing? What effect, did it have on your life? Give us; a call: 800-989-8255. Email: talk@npr.org. You can also join the conversation on our website That's at npr.org Click on TALK OF THE	if you were voted most likely to succeed, did it turn out to be a curse or a blessing? what effect did it have on your life? give us a call: 800-989-8255. email: talk@npr.org. you can also join the conversation on our website. that's at npr.org. click on talk of the nation.
Sue Shellenbarger wrote about the burden of being named most likely to succeed in her "Work & Family" column in The Wall Street Journal. She joins us now from her home in Portland, Oregon.	sue shellenbarger wrote about the burden of being named most likely to succeed in her "work & family" column in the wall street journal she joins us now, from her home in portland	Sue Shellenbarger wrote about the, burden of being, named most likely to succeed in her "Work & Family" column in The Wall Street Journal She joins us now from her home in Portland	sue shellenbarger wrote about the burden of being named most likely to succeed in her "work & family" column in the wall street journal. she joins us now from her home in portland, oregon.
Nice to have you back on the program.	nice to have you, back on. the	Nice to have you back on the	nice to have you back on the program.
Thank you, Neal. Nice to join you.	thank you neal nice to join	Thank you Neal Nice to join	thank you, neal. nice to join you.
And you talked with one man in your piece, Blake Atwood, who said noosed with most likely to succeed is like lugging an albatross to every job interview. Noosed - that's an interesting verb.	and you talked with one man in your piece, blake atwood who said noosed with most likely to, succeed is like lugging an albatross to every job interview noosed - that's an, interesting	And you talked with one man in your piece Blake Atwood who, said noosed with most likely to succeed is like lugging an albatross, to every job interview Noosed - that's an interesting	and you talked with one man in your piece, blake atwood, who said noosed with most likely to succeed is like lugging an albatross to every job interview. noosed - that's an interesting verb.
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Blake felt that way. He was haunted by the label, and I think felt stuck with it, and constantly wondered if he was measuring up.	blake felt that way he was haunted, by the label and i think felt stuck with it and constantly wondered if he was measuring	Blake felt that, way He was haunted by the label and I think felt stuck; with. it and constantly wondered if he was measuring	blake felt that way. he was haunted by the label, and i think felt stuck with it, and constantly wondered if he was measuring up.
And constantly felt as if he was - that this was some kind of expectation placed on him, rather than a - sort of vote for success in high school, which is rather different.	and constantly felt as if he. was - that this was some kind of. expectation. placed on him rather, than a - sort. of vote for success in high school which is rather	And constantly felt as if he was - that this was, some kind of expectation placed on him rather than a, - sort. of vote for success, in high, school which is rather	and constantly felt as if he was - that this was some kind of expectation placed on him, rather than a - sort of vote for success in high school, which is rather different.
Well, that's true. And this designation is a little different from some of the others, such as most popular, because it sticks with you in the sense that the high school interpretation of most likely to succeed is pretty conventional. You rise to the top of your field. You make a lot of money. You become famous, and it...	well, that's true. and this designation, is. a little different from some of, the, others such as, most. popular because it sticks with you in the sense that the high school interpretation of most likely to succeed is pretty conventional you rise to the top of your field you make a lot of money you become. famous and i...	Well that's true And, this designation is a little different from some of the others such as most popular because it sticks with you in the sense that. the high. school interpretation of most likely to succeed is pretty conventional You rise to the top, of. your field; You make a lot of, money You become famous and it ...	well, that's true. and this designation is a little different from some of the others, such as most popular, because it sticks with you in the sense that the high school interpretation of most likely to succeed is pretty conventional. you rise to the top of your field. you make a lot of money. you become famous, and it...
And for people who grow and evolve as adults do, I think people felt that was confining. It haunted some of them. One woman said that it was hanging over her ever since she earned it 20 years earlier.	and, for people who grow, and evolve as adults do i think people felt that was confining. it haunted some of them one; woman said that, it was hanging over her ever since she earned it 20 years	And for people who grow and evolve as adults, do I think people felt that, was confining It haunted some of them One woman said that it was hanging over her ever since she earned it 20 years	and for people who grow and evolve as adults do, i think people felt that was confining. it haunted some of them. one woman said that it was hanging over her ever since she earned it 20 years earlier.
And, Sue Shellenbarger, does it really affect people's lives, though?	and sue shellenbarger does it really affect people's lives	And Sue Shellenbarger does it really affect people's lives	and, sue shellenbarger, does it really affect people's lives, though?
I think it adds to - for some. What I found, it broke at about one-third of folks felt it was a burden, that is, they always wondered if they were measuring up. They wondered if perhaps they weren't fulfilling their peers' expectations.	i think it adds to - for some what i found it broke at about one-third of folks felt. it was a burden that is, they always wondered if they were measuring up they wondered, if perhaps they weren't fulfilling their	I think it adds to. - for some What I found it broke at about one-third of folks felt it was a burden that is they always wondered if they were measuring up They wondered if perhaps they weren't fulfilling their	i think it adds to - for some. what i found, it broke at about one-third of folks felt it was a burden, that is, they always wondered if they were measuring up. they wondered if perhaps they weren't fulfilling their peers' expectations.
Others found it inspiring and took courage from it. And so those folks -one young man, a Howard University graduate, told me that remembering that his classmates have voted him most likely to succeed actually kept him from seriously considering dropping out of Harvard Law School a few years later. He continues to wonde...	others, found it inspiring and took courage from it; and so those folks -one young man a howard university graduate told me that remembering that his classmates have voted, him most likely to; succeed actually kept him from; seriously considering dropping. out of harvard law school. a few years later he continues to wo...	Others found. it inspiring and took courage from it And so those folks -one young man a Howard University graduate told me that remembering that his, classmates have voted him most likely to succeed actually kept him from seriously considering dropping out of Harvard Law, School a few years later He continues to, wonde...	others found it inspiring and took courage from it. and so those folks -one young man, a howard university graduate, told me that remembering that his classmates have voted him most likely to succeed actually kept him from seriously considering dropping out of harvard law school a few years later. he continues to wonde...
Doesn't want to disappoint the folks back home. That's - a lot of people get out of high school and never look back.	doesn't want to disappoint the; folks back. home that's - a lot of people get out of high school and never look	Doesn't want to disappoint the. folks back home, That's - a lot of people get out of high school and never look	doesn't want to disappoint the folks back home. that's - a lot of people get out of high school and never look back.
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And never think a thing about it. And some of the research I did show that people can't even remember who was voted most likely to succeed, and about one-third of the folks in the MemoryLane.com poll said that it had absolutely no significance for them whatsoever.	and never think a thing; about it and some of the research i did show that, people can't even remember who was voted most likely to succeed and about. one-third of the folks in the memorylane.com, poll said that it had absolutely no significance for them	And never think a thing about it And some of the research I did show that people can't even remember who was voted most. likely to succeed and about one-third, of the, folks in the MemoryLane.com poll said that it had absolutely no significance for them	and never think a thing about it. and some of the research i did show that people can't even remember who was voted most likely to succeed, and about one-third of the folks in the memorylane.com poll said that it had absolutely no significance for them whatsoever.
So, sure, a lot of people do forget it. But there is something about the notion of success that's laden with, you know, cultural values that make you feel pressured, that make you feel almost that you have to be perfect. And I think that sense of perfectionism is what haunted a lot of the people I spoke with.	so. sure a lot of people do forget it but there is something about the notion of, success that's laden with you know cultural values that make you feel pressured that make you. feel almost that you have to be perfect and i think that sense of perfectionism is, what, haunted a lot of the people i spoke	So sure a lot of people do forget it. But there is something about the notion of success that's laden with you know cultural values, that make you feel pressured that make you feel almost that you have to be perfect And I think that sense of, perfectionism. is what haunted a lot of the people I spoke	so, sure, a lot of people do forget it. but there is something about the notion of success that's laden with, you know, cultural values that make you feel pressured, that make you feel almost that you have to be perfect. and i think that sense of perfectionism is what haunted a lot of the people i spoke with.
Also, it depends on your definition of success.	also it depends on your definition of	Also it depends on your definition of	also, it depends on your definition of success.
Well, that's absolutely right, and it was fascinating to me to speak with one young woman, a very talented young woman whose definition of success in high school was achievement and awards. And she drove herself mercilessly and got all of the above, and was invited to apply to a Harvard University summer program for hi...	well that's absolutely right and it was fascinating to me to speak. with one young woman. a very talented young woman whose, definition of success in high school, was achievement and. awards and. she drove herself mercilessly and got all of the above and was invited to apply to a. harvard university. summer program for...	Well. that's, absolutely right and it was fascinating to me to speak with one young woman a very talented. young woman whose definition of success in high school was achievement and awards, And; she drove herself, mercilessly and got all of the above and was invited to apply to a Harvard University summer program. for ...	well, that's absolutely right, and it was fascinating to me to speak with one young woman, a very talented young woman whose definition of success in high school was achievement and awards. and she drove herself mercilessly and got all of the above, and was invited to apply to a harvard university summer program for hi...
She lost her sense of direction. She began to feel that she wanted other things in life, and she spent the next decade or so redefining what success really meant to her.	she lost her sense of direction she began. to feel that she wanted other things in life and she spent the next decade or so redefining what success really meant to	She lost her sense of; direction She began. to, feel that. she wanted other. things in life and she spent the, next decade or. so redefining what success really meant to	she lost her sense of direction. she began to feel that she wanted other things in life, and she spent the next decade or so redefining what success really meant to her.
So it is - you put your finger on it. It is that how do we define success, and does that change over time? And for this young woman I'm speaking of now, she said that it became a milestone for her, that designation of how much she had changed. Now she values relationships. She values experiences over money and prestige...	so it is - you put your finger on it it is that how. do we define. success and does that change over time? and, for this young woman i'm speaking of; now she said that it became a milestone for her that designation, of. how much she had changed now she values relationships she values experiences over money and prestige...	So it, is - you put your finger on it It is that how, do we define. success and does; that change over time? And for this young woman I'm speaking of now she said that it became a milestone for her. that designation of how much she, had changed Now she values relationships She values experiences over money and prestige...	so it is - you put your finger on it. it is that how do we define success, and does that change over time? and for this young woman i'm speaking of now, she said that it became a milestone for her, that designation of how much she had changed. now she values relationships. she values experiences over money and prestige...
I'm not sure how I - I'm not sure I can remember that long ago. But I would have measured successes as a high school senior and how I would measure that differently today.	i'm not sure how i - i'm not sure i can remember that long ago but i would have measured, successes as a high. school senior and how. i would measure that differently	I'm not sure how I - I'm not sure I can remember that long ago But I would have measured successes as a high school senior and how I would measure that differently	i'm not sure how i - i'm not sure i can remember that long ago. but i would have measured successes as a high school senior and how i would measure that differently today.