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And with me now, just back from the mailbox, is NEWS & NOTES editor Cory Turner. Hey, Corey.
and with me now just back. from the mailbox is news & notes editor. cory turner hey
And with. me now just back from the mailbox is NEWS & NOTES editor Cory Turner Hey
and with me now, just back from the mailbox, is news & notes editor cory turner. hey, corey.
Hey, Cheryl. Welcome back to NEWS & NOTES. It's great to see you again.
hey cheryl. welcome back to news. & notes it's great to see you
Hey Cheryl Welcome back to NEWS & NOTES It's great to see you
hey, cheryl. welcome back to news & notes. it's great to see you again.
Thank you. Likewise. Well, I am just filling in for Farai today and tomorrow. But it is always a pleasure. And looks like you've got a lot of mail there.
thank you likewise well i am just filling in. for farai. today and. tomorrow but. it is always a pleasure and looks like you've got a lot of mail
Thank you Likewise Well I am just filling in for Farai today and tomorrow But it is. always a pleasure And looks like. you've got, a lot of mail
thank you. likewise. well, i am just filling in for farai today and tomorrow. but it is always a pleasure. and looks like you've got a lot of mail there.
I wouldn't have it any other way, Cheryl. So let's get to it. Going to kick things off with a letter about a criminal justice segment we ran not long ago. The story revolved around a report by a group called the Sentencing Project that suggested black Americans land in prison at six times the rate of white Americans.
i. wouldn't have. it any other, way. cheryl so let's get to it going to kick things off with a letter. about a criminal justice segment. we ran not long ago. the, story revolved, around a report by a group called the sentencing project that suggested black americans land in prison at six times the rate of white
I wouldn't have it any other way, Cheryl So let's get to it Going to kick. things off with a letter about a criminal justice segment we ran, not long ago The story revolved around a. report by a group called the Sentencing Project that suggested; black Americans land in prison. at six times the rate. of white
i wouldn't have it any other way, cheryl. so let's get to it. going to kick things off with a letter about a criminal justice segment we ran not long ago. the story revolved around a report by a group called the sentencing project that suggested black americans land in prison at six times the rate of white americans.
First, we spoke with Ryan King, who helped write the study. Then with Richard Samp, chief legal counsel for the Washington Legal Foundation. He had this to say.
first we spoke, with ryan. king who. helped write the. study then with. richard samp chief legal counsel; for the washington legal foundation he had this to
First we spoke with Ryan King who helped write the. study Then with Richard, Samp chief legal counsel for the Washington Legal Foundation He had, this to
first, we spoke with ryan king, who helped write the study. then with richard samp, chief legal counsel for the washington legal foundation. he had this to say.
Many of these studies focus on racial disparity in the number of people in prison. And, frankly, the racial issue is a red herring.
many of these studies focus on racial disparity in. the number of people in prison and, frankly the racial issue is, a red.
Many of these studies focus. on racial disparity in the number of people. in prison And frankly the, racial issue is a red
many of these studies focus on racial disparity in the number of people in prison. and, frankly, the racial issue is a red herring.
In response to that, Sy Jackson(ph) of Atlanta writes, I thought it was extremely disingenuous to interview Richard Samp of the Washington Legal Foundation. It's the rough equivalent of interviewing Rachel Ray as a foreign policy expert. A review of the organization's Web site shows that they are pro-business, pro-capi...
in response to that sy jackson(ph) of atlanta writes i thought, it. was extremely disingenuous to interview richard. samp. of, the washington legal foundation it's the rough equivalent of interviewing; rachel ray as a foreign. policy expert a review of the organization's web, site shows that they are. pro-business pro-...
In response to that. Sy Jackson(ph) of Atlanta writes I thought it was extremely disingenuous to interview Richard Samp of, the Washington Legal, Foundation It's the rough equivalent of interviewing Rachel Ray as a foreign policy expert A review of the organization's Web, site, shows that they are pro-business pro-capi...
in response to that, sy jackson(ph) of atlanta writes, i thought it was extremely disingenuous to interview richard samp of the washington legal foundation. it's the rough equivalent of interviewing rachel ray as a foreign policy expert. a review of the organization's web site shows that they are pro-business, pro-capi...
And I can assure you, Sy, that we screen every voice that hits our air. What I can't promise is that you'll like what they have to say. Mr. Samp is just one of many attorneys and legal experts who believe that race plays no role in determining who ends up in our prison system and for how long. To have hosted this conve...
and i can assure you sy that we screen every voice that hits our air what. i can't promise. is that, you'll like what they have to, say mr samp is just one of many attorneys and. legal experts who believe that race, plays no role in determining who ends up in our prison system; and for, how long to have hosted this con...
And. I can assure you Sy that we screen every voice that hits. our, air. What I; can't promise is that you'll like what they. have to, say Mr Samp is just one of many attorneys and legal experts who believe that race plays no role in. determining who ends up in our prison system and for how long To have hosted this con...
and i can assure you, sy, that we screen every voice that hits our air. what i can't promise is that you'll like what they have to say. mr. samp is just one of many attorneys and legal experts who believe that race plays no role in determining who ends up in our prison system and for how long. to have hosted this conve...
Okay. Well, what else do you have, Cory?
okay well what else. do you have.
Okay Well what else do you have
okay. well, what else do you have, cory?
Last week, our bloggers' roundtable talked about embattled Falcons' quarterback, Michael Vick. One of our guests, Jasmyne Cannick, had this to say.
last week our bloggers' roundtable, talked about embattled falcons' quarterback michael vick one of our guests jasmyne cannick had this to
Last week our bloggers' roundtable talked about, embattled Falcons' quarterback Michael Vick One of our guests Jasmyne, Cannick had this, to
last week, our bloggers' roundtable talked about embattled falcons' quarterback, michael vick. one of our guests, jasmyne cannick, had this to say.
His supporters were black. You know, the PETA folks were white. It's definitely becoming a race issue. And I just think there are more important things like R. Kelly. Like if black folks…
his supporters were black you know the peta folks were white, it's definitely becoming a race issue; and i just think there are more important things like r kelly like if black
His supporters. were black, You know the PETA folks were white It's definitely becoming a race issue And I just think there are more important things like R Kelly Like; if black
his supporters were black. you know, the peta folks were white. it's definitely becoming a race issue. and i just think there are more important things like r. kelly. like if black folks…
Oh, we're going to get to R. Kelly in a second.
oh we're going, to get to r kelly in, a
Oh we're going to get. to, R Kelly in a
oh, we're going to get to r. kelly in a second.
Yeah. If we can get so upset about like this and what it's done, defend this man, I mean what is the issue with some of the other issues that are - that don't deal with dogs, but human beings?
yeah if we can get. so upset about like this and what it's done defend this man i mean what is the issue with some of the other issues; that are - that don't deal with, dogs but human
Yeah If we can get so upset about like this and what it's done defend. this man I mean what is the issue with some of the, other issues that are - that don't deal with dogs, but human
yeah. if we can get so upset about like this and what it's done, defend this man, i mean what is the issue with some of the other issues that are - that don't deal with dogs, but human beings?
In response, Julia Treseder(ph) writes, the dismissal that dogs are less important than humans and thus, are not due equal consideration, shows the ignorance and mind-boggling insensitivity of your guest. Given the history in this country of trivializing crimes against blacks by white perpetrators based on racist views...
in response julia treseder(ph) writes the dismissal that; dogs are less important than humans and thus are not. due equal consideration shows the ignorance and mind-boggling insensitivity of your guest given the history in this country of trivializing crimes against, blacks by white perpetrators based on racist views i...
In response Julia Treseder(ph) writes. the, dismissal, that dogs are less important than humans and thus are not due equal consideration shows the ignorance and. mind-boggling insensitivity of your guest Given the history in this country of trivializing crimes against blacks by white perpetrators based on racist views ...
in response, julia treseder(ph) writes, the dismissal that dogs are less important than humans and thus, are not due equal consideration, shows the ignorance and mind-boggling insensitivity of your guest. given the history in this country of trivializing crimes against blacks by white perpetrators based on racist views...
Well, Julia, you're not the only listener who took Jasmyne to test for her remarks. I'm just filling in for Farai, but I can say that NEWS & NOTES, particularly, our Bloggers' Roundtable, is about the free flow of ideas, and sometimes, those ideas will get a little controversial. But that's a sign of a healthy dialogue...
well. julia you're not; the only. listener who took jasmyne to test, for her remarks i'm just filling in; for. farai but i can say that news & notes particularly our bloggers' roundtable is about the free flow of ideas, and sometimes those ideas will get a little controversial but that's a sign of a healthy dialogue so...
Well Julia you're not the, only listener who took Jasmyne to test for her remarks I'm just filling in for Farai but I can say that NEWS. & NOTES particularly our Bloggers' Roundtable is, about the. free flow, of ideas and sometimes those ideas will get a. little controversial But, that's a sign of a healthy dialogue So...
well, julia, you're not the only listener who took jasmyne to test for her remarks. i'm just filling in for farai, but i can say that news & notes, particularly, our bloggers' roundtable, is about the free flow of ideas, and sometimes, those ideas will get a little controversial. but that's a sign of a healthy dialogue...
Now, it looks like you've got one more note, Cory.
now it looks like you've got one more note
Now it looks like you've got one more note
now, it looks like you've got one more note, cory.
I sure do. And it comes from listener Amy Grieb(ph) of Montclair, New Jersey. She writes, as an avid NPR listener and a typical white female, I want to tell you that you put together the most insightful current news program on radio. You resist diatribe and engaging discussion, not to mention the nuance of difference, ...
i sure do and it comes from listener amy grieb(ph) of montclair new jersey she writes as an avid npr listener and a typical white female i want to tell, you that you put together the most insightful current news, program on, radio you resist diatribe. and engaging discussion not to mention the nuance of difference your...
I sure do And it; comes from listener Amy Grieb(ph) of Montclair New Jersey She writes as an avid NPR listener and a typical. white, female I want to, tell you that you put together the most insightful current news program on radio You resist diatribe and engaging discussion not to mention the nuance of, difference. yo...
i sure do. and it comes from listener amy grieb(ph) of montclair, new jersey. she writes, as an avid npr listener and a typical white female, i want to tell you that you put together the most insightful current news program on radio. you resist diatribe and engaging discussion, not to mention the nuance of difference, ...
Well, we won't if you won't, Amy. And that goes for all of you out there.
well we won't if you won't amy and that goes for all. of you out
Well we won't if you won't Amy And that goes for. all of you out
well, we won't if you won't, amy. and that goes for all of you out there.
Well, Liane, it's hard to describe anything as business as usual when even aside from these legal problems, this White House, this president is in the deepest political trough of his time in office. They are looking at Iraq. They're looking at pessimism on the economy, high energy prices. They me...
well liane it's hard to describe anything as business as usual when even aside from these legal problems. this, white house, this president is in the deepest, political trough, of his time in office they are looking at iraq they're looking; at pessimism on the, economy high energy, prices they me...
Well Liane it's hard to, describe. anything as business as usual when even aside from; these legal problems. this White House this president is in the deepest political trough of his time in office They are. looking at Iraq They're looking at, pessimism on the economy high energy prices They, mes...
well, liane, it's hard to describe anything as business as usual when even aside from these legal problems, this white house, this president is in the deepest political trough of his time in office. they are looking at iraq. they're looking at pessimism on the economy, high energy prices. they me...
Well, he wasn't indicted, but as you say, he's not off the hook. Can he continue to function effectively in the White House?
well he wasn't indicted but as you say he's not off the hook can he continue to function effectively in the white
Well he, wasn't indicted but as, you say he's. not off the hook Can; he continue to function effectively in the White
well, he wasn't indicted, but as you say, he's not off the hook. can he continue to function effectively in the white house?
Well, the word from the White House and from Mr. Rove's office, of course, is, `Yes, that's our story and we're sticking to it.' Actually I think the answer to this one will become clear probably in a matter of weeks because what we hear from the lawyers around that case is that the prosecutor, Patr...
well the word from the white house and from mr rove's office of course is `yes that's our. story. and we're sticking to it' actually i think the answer to this one will become clear probably in a matter of. weeks because what we hear from the lawyers around that case is, that the prosecutor patrick ...
Well the word from the White House and from Mr Rove's office of. course is `Yes. that's our story and we're sticking to it' Actually I think the answer to this one. will, become clear probably in; a matter of weeks because what, we, hear from the lawyers around that case is that the prosecutor Patri...
well, the word from the white house and from mr. rove's office, of course, is, `yes, that's our story and we're sticking to it.' actually i think the answer to this one will become clear probably in a matter of weeks because what we hear from the lawyers around that case is that the prosecutor, patr...
Scooter Libby says he'll be exonerated. The prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, doesn't sound like he wants to make any kind of deal. So what can the administration expect if this goes to trial?
scooter, libby says he'll be exonerated the prosecutor patrick fitzgerald doesn't sound like he wants to make any kind of deal so what can the administration, expect if this goes to
Scooter Libby says. he'll be exonerated The prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald doesn't sound. like he wants to make any, kind of deal. So, what can the administration expect if this. goes to
scooter libby says he'll be exonerated. the prosecutor, patrick fitzgerald, doesn't sound like he wants to make any kind of deal. so what can the administration expect if this goes to trial?
Well, what the administration will want to do if this goes to trial is make it into an obscure story about a second-level aide and something to do with false statements to the FBI and a lot of legal technicalities. I don't think that's going to work because there still is the mystery of who leaked ...
well what the. administration will want to do if this goes to trial is make it into an. obscure story about a second-level, aide and something to do; with false. statements to the fbi and a, lot of legal technicalities i don't think that's going to work because there still is the mystery of who lea...
Well what the administration will want to do if this goes to trial is make it into an obscure story about, a second-level aide and something to do with false statements to the FBI and a lot of legal technicalities I don't, think that's going, to work because there still is the mystery of. who leake...
well, what the administration will want to do if this goes to trial is make it into an obscure story about a second-level aide and something to do with false statements to the fbi and a lot of legal technicalities. i don't think that's going to work because there still is the mystery of who leaked ...
Go back to the reporters because a lot of the case has revolved around reporters and confidential sources. Is anything going to change in the way news is reported in Washington as a result of this?
go back to the, reporters because a lot. of the case has. revolved around reporters and confidential sources is anything going to, change in the way news is reported in washington, as a result of
Go, back to the reporters because, a lot of the case has. revolved around reporters and confidential sources Is. anything going to change in the way news is reported in Washington as a result of
go back to the reporters because a lot of the case has revolved around reporters and confidential sources. is anything going to change in the way news is reported in washington as a result of this?
You know, I thought it would at first, but the remarkable thing in the short run is not at all. Look, here's a case about leaks and a case about who said what to reporters and what the reporters did with that information. And over the past three or four weeks, we've had a deluge of leaks about the...
you know, i. thought it would at first but the remarkable thing in the. short run is not at all look. here's a case about leaks; and a. case about who said what to reporters and what; the reporters did with that information and over the past; three or four weeks we've had a deluge of leaks about. ...
You know. I, thought it would at; first but the remarkable thing in the short run is not at all Look here's a case about leaks and a case about, who said what to reporters and what the reporters did with. that information And over the past. three or four weeks we've, had a deluge of leaks about. t...
you know, i thought it would at first, but the remarkable thing in the short run is not at all. look, here's a case about leaks and a case about who said what to reporters and what the reporters did with that information. and over the past three or four weeks, we've had a deluge of leaks about the...
But what may happen as a result of the trial is that if the public and if all of our sources in Washington see Tim Russert of NBC, Matt Cooper of Time magazine, Judy Miller of The New York Times up there on the stand compelled to testify under oath about conversations they had that were confidential...
but what may. happen as a result of the trial is. that if, the public and if all, of our sources in washington see tim russert of nbc matt cooper of time magazine judy miller of the new. york times up there on the stand compelled to testify under oath, about conversations they had. that. were confid...
But, what may happen as a result, of the trial is that if the public, and if all of. our sources in Washington see Tim; Russert of NBC Matt Cooper of Time magazine Judy Miller of The New York Times up there on the stand compelled to, testify. under oath about conversations they had that were confide...
but what may happen as a result of the trial is that if the public and if all of our sources in washington see tim russert of nbc, matt cooper of time magazine, judy miller of the new york times up there on the stand compelled to testify under oath about conversations they had that were confidential...
Names are already leaking out about a new nominee for the Supreme Court from President Bush. He needs to send a name to the Senate. It's not going to be easy because if he comes up with someone who satisfies the right wing of his party, the Republican Party, he's going to raise the backs of many o...
names are already leaking out about a new nominee for the supreme court from president bush he needs to send a name to the senate it's not going to be easy because if he comes up. with someone who satisfies the right wing of his party the, republican party, he's going to raise the backs of many of...
Names are already leaking out about a new nominee for the Supreme Court from President Bush He needs to send a name to the Senate It's not going to be easy because if he comes up with someone who satisfies the right wing, of his party the Republican Party he's going. to raise the backs of many of ...
names are already leaking out about a new nominee for the supreme court from president bush. he needs to send a name to the senate. it's not going to be easy because if he comes up with someone who satisfies the right wing of his party, the republican party, he's going to raise the backs of many o...
It's probably impossible to pull off that miraculous balancing act that he hit with John Roberts. So the names that have been floating around--and they appear to have floated out of the White House--suggest the president is going to look toward a more conservative figure and that makes political se...
it's probably impossible to pull off that miraculous balancing act that he hit with john roberts so the names that have been floating. around--and they appear to have floated out of the white house--suggest the president is going, to look toward a, more conservative figure and that makes political,...
It's probably impossible to pull off that miraculous, balancing, act that he hit with John Roberts So the, names, that have been floating around--and; they appear to have floated out of the, White House--suggest the president is going to look toward a more conservative; figure and that makes politi...
it's probably impossible to pull off that miraculous balancing act that he hit with john roberts. so the names that have been floating around--and they appear to have floated out of the white house--suggest the president is going to look toward a more conservative figure and that makes political se...
There's a lot going on, too, particularly with regard to internal Senate politics. A lot has changed. Remember last May, the Democrats had to make a deal, called for them to largely give up this idea of a filibuster to stop federal court nominees they didn't like, but since then, the Senate Republ...
there's a lot going on too particularly with regard to, internal senate politics. a lot has changed remember last may the; democrats had to make a deal called for them to largely give. up this idea of a filibuster to stop federal court nominees they didn't, like but since then the senate republica...
There's a lot going on too particularly. with regard to internal; Senate, politics A lot has changed Remember last May the Democrats had to make a deal called for them, to largely give up this idea, of a filibuster to stop federal court nominees they didn't like but since then the Senate Republica...
there's a lot going on, too, particularly with regard to internal senate politics. a lot has changed. remember last may, the democrats had to make a deal, called for them to largely give up this idea of a filibuster to stop federal court nominees they didn't like, but since then, the senate republ...
That's a terrific question because, as you say, when in the spring when that deal was made the Democrats felt weak, the Republicans felt strong. There was a lot of controversy among liberal Democrats, saying, `Well, why did our leaders, why did Senator Reid, the Democratic leader, compromise so muc...
that's a terrific question because as you say when in the spring when that deal was made the democrats felt weak the, republicans felt strong there was a lot of controversy among liberal democrats saying `well why. did our leaders why did senator reid the democratic leader compromise so much?' wel...
That's a terrific question because as you say when in the spring when that deal was made the Democrats felt weak the. Republicans felt strong There was a lot of controversy among, liberal Democrats saying `Well why did our leaders why did Senator Reid the Democratic leader compromise so much?' Wel...
that's a terrific question because, as you say, when in the spring when that deal was made the democrats felt weak, the republicans felt strong. there was a lot of controversy among liberal democrats, saying, `well, why did our leaders, why did senator reid, the democratic leader, compromise so muc...
They both were able to adopt the notion that fear and hate are the two greatest motivators of voters that feel alienated from government.
they both were able, to adopt. the notion that fear, and hate are the two greatest motivators of voters, that feel alienated from
They both were able to adopt the notion that fear and hate, are the two greatest motivators of voters that feel alienated from
they both were able to adopt the notion that fear and hate are the two greatest motivators of voters that feel alienated from government.
And finally and briefly, Doyle, of course, this past week we saw the 2,000th American to die in Iraq since the invasion in early 2003. Tens of thousands of others have died. Expect any kind of action on this front?
and finally and briefly doyle of course this past week we saw the 2,000th american to die in iraq since the invasion in early. 2003. tens of thousands of others have died expect any kind of action on. this.
And finally and. briefly Doyle of course this past. week, we; saw the 2,000th American to die in, Iraq since the, invasion in early 2003. Tens of, thousands of others have died Expect any kind, of action on this
and finally and briefly, doyle, of course, this past week we saw the 2,000th american to die in iraq since the invasion in early 2003. tens of thousands of others have died. expect any kind of action on this front?
You know, that is the cloud. Iraq is the cloud that is hanging over both parties in American politics right now. That number 2,000 was an artificial landmark, but it was a very sober one. Republicans can campaign on the economy but they can't fix this. Democrats admit they don't have a great new a...
you know that is the cloud iraq is the, cloud that is hanging, over both parties in american politics right now that number 2,000 was an artificial landmark but it was a very sober, one republicans can campaign on the economy but they can't. fix this democrats admit they don't have a great new ans...
You know that is the cloud Iraq is the cloud that is hanging over both, parties in American politics right now That number 2,000 was an artificial landmark but it was a very, sober one Republicans can campaign on the economy but they can't fix, this Democrats admit they don't have a great new answ...
you know, that is the cloud. iraq is the cloud that is hanging over both parties in american politics right now. that number 2,000 was an artificial landmark, but it was a very sober one. republicans can campaign on the economy but they can't fix this. democrats admit they don't have a great new a...
Los Angeles Times Washington bureau chief Doyle McManus. Doyle, thanks a lot.
los. angeles, times. washington bureau chief doyle mcmanus, doyle thanks a
Los Angeles Times Washington bureau chief Doyle McManus Doyle thanks a
los angeles times washington bureau chief doyle mcmanus. doyle, thanks a lot.
Thank you, Liane.
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Donald Trump's success has the Republican Party in a quandary. It's being forced to contend with voters who are just fed up with party politics. Some 50 years ago, another vociferous candidate put the scare in traditional powerbrokers. The late George Wallace fired up his crowds with a similar anti-establishment messag...
donald trump's success has the republican party in a quandary it's being. forced to contend, with, voters who. are just fed, up with party politics some 50 years. ago another vociferous candidate put the scare in traditional powerbrokers the late, george wallace fired up his crowds with a similar. anti-establishment. m...
Donald Trump's success has the Republican Party in a quandary It's being. forced to, contend, with voters who are. just. fed up with party politics Some 50 years ago another vociferous candidate. put the scare in traditional, powerbrokers The late George Wallace, fired up his crowds with a similar anti-establishment me...
donald trump's success has the republican party in a quandary. it's being forced to contend with voters who are just fed up with party politics. some 50 years ago, another vociferous candidate put the scare in traditional powerbrokers. the late george wallace fired up his crowds with a similar anti-establishment messag...
When he first entered presidential politics in 1964, then-Alabama Governor George Wallace was famous for this declaration.
when he first entered presidential politics in. 1964, then-alabama. governor george wallace, was famous for this
When he first entered presidential politics in 1964, then-Alabama Governor George Wallace was famous. for this
when he first entered presidential politics in 1964, then-alabama governor george wallace was famous for this declaration.
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And I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever.
and i say segregation now segregation tomorrow. and segregation
And I say segregation now segregation tomorrow and segregation,
and i say segregation now, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever.
The southern populist and former Golden Gloves boxing champ burst onto the national stage tapping into a vein of resentment over the social upheaval of the day, namely new civil rights laws. In 1968, running as a third-party candidate, he drew large crowds to ever more raucous rallies.
the southern; populist, and former golden gloves boxing champ burst onto the national stage tapping. into a vein of resentment over the social upheaval of the, day namely new civil; rights laws, in 1968, running as a third-party candidate he drew large crowds to ever more raucous
The southern, populist and. former Golden Gloves boxing. champ burst onto the, national stage tapping into a vein of resentment over the social upheaval of the day namely new, civil rights laws In, 1968, running as a. third-party candidate he drew large crowds to ever more raucous
the southern populist and former golden gloves boxing champ burst onto the national stage tapping into a vein of resentment over the social upheaval of the day, namely new civil rights laws. in 1968, running as a third-party candidate, he drew large crowds to ever more raucous rallies.
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We want Wallace. We want Wallace.
we want wallace we want,
We, want Wallace We want
we want wallace. we want wallace.
Tens of thousands turned out at rallies in major northeastern cities like Boston and New York. Wallace's racial rhetoric on this national stage was more coded. He berated both the federal government and the political parties for being out of touch with average Americans.
tens of thousands turned out at rallies in. major, northeastern cities like boston and new york wallace's racial rhetoric on this national stage was more coded he berated both the federal. government and the political, parties for being out of touch with average
Tens of. thousands turned out at rallies in major northeastern cities like Boston and New York Wallace's racial rhetoric on this national stage was more coded He berated both the federal government and the political parties for being. out of touch with average
tens of thousands turned out at rallies in major northeastern cities like boston and new york. wallace's racial rhetoric on this national stage was more coded. he berated both the federal government and the political parties for being out of touch with average americans.
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And I want to tell these national parties this - they're going to find out there are a lot of rednecks come November 5th in this country.
and, i want to. tell these national parties this - they're going to find out there are a, lot of rednecks come november 5th, in this
And I want to tell these national parties. this - they're going, to find out, there are a lot of rednecks come November 5th in this
and i want to tell these national parties this - they're going to find out there are a lot of rednecks come november 5th in this country.
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They've used us as a doormat long enough.
they've used us as a doormat long
They've used us as a doormat long
they've used us as a doormat long enough.
Talk of doormats in the '60s to a dumping ground today as a way to reach dismayed voters.
talk of doormats in the '60s to a dumping ground today as a way to reach dismayed
Talk of. doormats in. the '60s, to a dumping ground. today. as. a way to reach dismayed,
talk of doormats in the '60s to a dumping ground today as a way to reach dismayed voters.
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The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.
the u.s has become a dumping ground for everybody else's
The U.S, has. become, a dumping ground for everybody else's
the u.s. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.
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It's just a replay. We're looking at a modern-day George Wallace.
it's just a replay we're looking at a modern-day george
It's just a replay We're looking at a modern-day George
it's just a replay. we're looking at a modern-day george wallace.
Charlie Snider was one of Wallace's most trusted political aides. He was chairman of two of Wallace's four presidential campaigns. Now 84, Snider has been watching this year's race with great interest.
charlie snider was one of wallace's most trusted political, aides he was, chairman. of two of wallace's four presidential, campaigns now 84, snider has been watching this year's race with great
Charlie Snider was one of Wallace's most trusted political aides He was chairman of two of Wallace's four presidential campaigns Now. 84, Snider has been watching this year's. race with great,
charlie snider was one of wallace's most trusted political aides. he was chairman of two of wallace's four presidential campaigns. now 84, snider has been watching this year's race with great interest.
George didn't have the party for him, he didn't have the hierarchy for him, he didn't have the major contributors for him. But he had the people for him. And that's exactly what's happening today with Donald Trump.
george didn't have the party, for him he didn't have the hierarchy for him he didn't have the major contributors; for him but he had the, people for him and that's exactly what's happening, today with donald
George didn't have the party for him he didn't have the hierarchy for him he didn't have the major contributors for him But. he had the. people for him And that's exactly what's happening today with. Donald
george didn't have the party for him, he didn't have the hierarchy for him, he didn't have the major contributors for him. but he had the people for him. and that's exactly what's happening today with donald trump.
Wallace shocked political pundits by winning nearly 10 million popular votes in the '68 election, carrying five states. He ran as a Democrat in 1972 and again in '76. Snider, a Trump supporter, says watching protesters at Trump rallies today reminds him of being on the campaign trail with Wallace. In an era of anti-war...
wallace shocked political; pundits by winning nearly 10 million popular votes in the '68 election carrying five states he ran as a democrat in 1972 and again in '76. snider a trump supporter says, watching protesters at; trump rallies today reminds him of being on the campaign trail with wallace in an era of anti-war a...
Wallace shocked political pundits by winning nearly 10 million popular votes in the '68 election carrying five states; He ran as a Democrat, in 1972 and again, in '76. Snider a Trump supporter says watching protesters at Trump rallies. today. reminds him of being on the campaign. trail with, Wallace In an era of anti-w...
wallace shocked political pundits by winning nearly 10 million popular votes in the '68 election, carrying five states. he ran as a democrat in 1972 and again in '76. snider, a trump supporter, says watching protesters at trump rallies today reminds him of being on the campaign trail with wallace. in an era of anti-war...
George kind of liked that because he would badger with them. You know, he'd go back and forth with them, you know, like, you know, why don't you go get your hair cut or something like that. Or, don't you know it's cold out there and you got those sandals on, you know? And he'd do these kind of things. He kindly enjoyed...
george kind of liked that because he would; badger with them you know he'd go back and forth with them you know like. you know why don't you go get your hair cut or something like that or don't you know it's cold out there and you got those sandals on you know? and he'd do these kind of things he, kindly enjoyed
George kind of liked that because he, would. badger with them You, know he'd go back and forth with them you. know like you know why don't you go get your hair, cut or something. like that Or don't you know it's cold out there and you got those sandals on you know? And he'd do these kind of things He, kindly enjoyed
george kind of liked that because he would badger with them. you know, he'd go back and forth with them, you know, like, you know, why don't you go get your hair cut or something like that. or, don't you know it's cold out there and you got those sandals on, you know? and he'd do these kind of things. he kindly enjoyed...
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I love you too. I sure do.
i, love you too i, sure
I love you too I sure
i love you too. i sure do.
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Oh, I thought you were a she. You a he. Oh, my goodness.
oh i thought you were a she you a he oh my
Oh I thought, you were a. she You a he. Oh my
oh, i thought you were a she. you a he. oh, my goodness.
You can watch Wallace provoke protesters in the documentary "Wallace: Settin' The Woods On Fire."
you can watch, wallace provoke protesters in the documentary "wallace: settin' the woods on
You can watch Wallace provoke protesters in the documentary "Wallace: Settin' The Woods On
you can watch wallace provoke protesters in the documentary "wallace: settin' the woods on fire."
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Why don't you young punks get out of the auditorium?
why don't you young punks get out of the
Why don't you young punks get out of the
why don't you young punks get out of the auditorium?
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Hello. Look at these people. Boy, what a bunch of losers, I'll tell you. You are a loser. You really are a loser.
hello look at these people boy what a bunch of losers i'll tell you you are a; loser you. really are a
Hello Look at these people Boy what a bunch. of losers I'll tell you You are a loser You really are a
hello. look at these people. boy, what a bunch of losers, i'll tell you. you are a loser. you really are a loser.
Donald Trump has made ejecting disruptive hecklers part of his stump.
donald trump has made ejecting disruptive hecklers part of his
Donald Trump has. made ejecting, disruptive hecklers part, of his
donald trump has made ejecting disruptive hecklers part of his stump.
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Ready? Are you ready? Get 'em outta here. Get 'em outta here. Get the hell outta here.
ready? are you ready? get 'em outta here get 'em outta here get the hell outta
Ready? Are you ready? Get 'em outta here Get 'em outta here Get the hell outta
ready? are you ready? get 'em outta here. get 'em outta here. get the hell outta here.
While their combative styles mirror, Trump is no racial segregationist. Wallace drew voters alarmed by a eroding white privilege. Trump draws voters worried about the erosion of jobs and competition from immigrant labor. His call for a ban on Muslims is a lightning rod in much the way that Wallace's position on race wa...
while their combative styles; mirror trump is no racial segregationist wallace drew voters alarmed by a eroding; white privilege trump draws, voters worried about the erosion; of jobs and competition from immigrant, labor his call for a ban on muslims is a lightning rod in much the way that wallace's position on race w...
While their combative styles mirror Trump is no. racial segregationist Wallace drew voters alarmed by a eroding white privilege Trump draws voters worried about the erosion of jobs and competition from immigrant labor His call for a ban on Muslims is a lightning rod in much the. way that Wallace's position on race was;...
while their combative styles mirror, trump is no racial segregationist. wallace drew voters alarmed by a eroding white privilege. trump draws voters worried about the erosion of jobs and competition from immigrant labor. his call for a ban on muslims is a lightning rod in much the way that wallace's position on race wa...
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Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.
donald j trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives, can figure out; what the hell is going
Donald J Trump. is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going
donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.
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Peggy Wallace Kennedy was 18 when she campaigned with her father in 1968. In Trump, she hears something familiar.
peggy wallace kennedy was 18 when she campaigned with her father in 1968. in trump she hears something
Peggy Wallace Kennedy was 18 when, she campaigned with her father in 1968. In Trump she hears something
peggy wallace kennedy was 18 when she campaigned with her father in 1968. in trump, she hears something familiar.
Trump and my father say out loud what people are thinking but don't have the courage to say.
trump and, my father say out. loud what people are thinking but don't have the courage to
Trump and my father say out loud what people are thinking but don't have the courage to
trump and my father say out loud what people are thinking but don't have the courage to say.
Peggy Wallace Kennedy is a retired teacher who now advocates for the very voting rights her father once fought. A Democrat, she's critical of the Trump campaign. She says he's exploiting voters' worst instincts the way George Wallace did.
peggy wallace, kennedy. is a retired teacher who now advocates for the very voting rights her father once fought a democrat. she's critical of the. trump campaign she says he's exploiting voters' worst instincts, the way george wallace
Peggy Wallace Kennedy is a retired teacher who now advocates for the very voting rights her father once fought. A Democrat she's critical of the. Trump campaign She, says he's exploiting voters' worst instincts the way George Wallace
peggy wallace kennedy is a retired teacher who now advocates for the very voting rights her father once fought. a democrat, she's critical of the trump campaign. she says he's exploiting voters' worst instincts the way george wallace did.
The basic idea is that throughout our lives we get papers handed back to us from teachers with a bunch of corrections on them, and typically they're in red ink.
the basic idea is that throughout; our lives we get papers handed back, to us from, teachers, with a bunch of corrections on them and typically they're in red
The basic idea is that throughout our lives we get papers handed back to us from teachers with a bunch of corrections on them and typically they're; in red
the basic idea is that throughout our lives we get papers handed back to us from teachers with a bunch of corrections on them, and typically they're in red ink.
Typically, indeed. Yes.
typically indeed
Typically indeed
typically, indeed. yes.
That happens enough times over the course of our lives that the idea of red ink and red pens and error is in correction, you know, gets sort of lodged in our brains. And so it struck us that the very acts of picking up such a pen if you're using a red pen would activate those ideas again when you go to create somethi...
that happens enough times over the course of, our lives that, the idea of red ink and red pens and error is in, correction you, know gets; sort of lodged in our brains, and so it struck us that the very acts of picking up such, a pen if you're using a red pen, would activate those ideas, again when, you go to create....
That, happens enough times over the course of our lives that the idea of red ink and red pens and error is in correction you know gets sort of lodged in our brains And. so. it struck us that the very acts of picking, up such a pen if you're using a red. pen would activate those ideas again when you go to create somet...
that happens enough times over the course of our lives that the idea of red ink and red pens and error is in correction, you know, gets sort of lodged in our brains. and so it struck us that the very acts of picking up such a pen if you're using a red pen would activate those ideas again when you go to create somethi...
To test this, what we did is we did a very simple experiment with two conditions. We randomly assigned people to either use a red pen or a pen of a different color. And they, in the first study, simply completed a series of words. So, for instance, F-A-I-blank...
to test this what we did is we did a very simple experiment with. two conditions we; randomly assigned people to either use. a red pen or a pen of a different, color and they in the first study simply completed a series of words so for instance
To test this what we, did is we did a very simple experiment with, two conditions We randomly, assigned people to either use a red pen or a pen of a different color And they in the first study simply completed a series of words So for. instance
to test this, what we did is we did a very simple experiment with two conditions. we randomly assigned people to either use a red pen or a pen of a different color. and they, in the first study, simply completed a series of words. so, for instance, f-a-i-blank...
L.
l.
It could be L if you're using a red pen...
it could be l if you're. using a red
It. could. be L if you're using a. red
it could be l if you're using a red pen...
Fail.
fail.
...that seems more likely.
...that seems more
...that seems more
...that seems more likely.
Exactly.
exactly.
And if you're using, you know, perhaps a blue pen or you're not having failure on the brain, you might write fair, right? And so it could be one or the other. And the degree to which people complete those words is sort of associated with the degree to which this concept has been activated in their brains.
and if, you're. using you know perhaps a blue pen or you're not having failure on. the brain you might write fair right? and so, it could be one; or the other, and the degree to which people complete those words is sort of associated with the; degree to which, this concept has been activated in their
And if you're using you know perhaps a blue pen or you're not having failure on, the brain you might write fair right? And so it could be one or the other And the degree to which people, complete those words is sort of associated with the degree to; which this concept has been activated in their
and if you're using, you know, perhaps a blue pen or you're not having failure on the brain, you might write fair, right? and so it could be one or the other. and the degree to which people complete those words is sort of associated with the degree to which this concept has been activated in their brains.
So people with red pens tended to write an L at the end of that word and people with blue pens would write an R?
so people with red pens tended to, write an l at the end of that word and people with blue pens would. write an
So people with red pens tended to write an L at the end of that word and people with blue pens would write an.
so people with red pens tended to write an l at the end of that word and people with blue pens would write an r?
Precisely.
precisely.
Did any of your subjects actually get to grade papers with different colored pens?
did any, of your subjects. actually get to grade papers with different colored
Did any of your subjects actually get to grade papers with different, colored
did any of your subjects actually get to grade papers with different colored pens?
Yes. That was just our first study. And our second, they evaluated an essay that had a bunch of errors in it and they were told to mark as many mistakes as they found and they marked more errors using red pens than using blue pens.
yes that was, just our first study and our second they evaluated an essay that had a bunch of errors in it and, they were told to mark as. many mistakes as they found and they marked more; errors using red pens than using blue
Yes That was just our, first study And our second they evaluated an essay that had a bunch of errors, in it and they were told to mark as many mistakes as they found and they marked more errors using red pens than using, blue
yes. that was just our first study. and our second, they evaluated an essay that had a bunch of errors in it and they were told to mark as many mistakes as they found and they marked more errors using red pens than using blue pens.
So when they used blue pens they found fewer errors in...
so when they used blue pens they found fewer errors
So when they used blue pens they found fewer errors
so when they used blue pens they found fewer errors in...
Fewer errors, yeah, about 19 in this particular essay versus about 24. And our third study, which was really the most striking one, this was one where the essays had no actual objective errors. There were no errors in grammar or spelling; just a bunch of sub-optimal word choices.
fewer errors yeah about 19 in this particular essay versus about, 24. and our third study which was really the most striking one this was one where the essays. had no actual objective errors there were no errors, in grammar or spelling just a bunch of sub-optimal word
Fewer errors yeah. about 19 in, this particular essay versus about 24. And our third. study which was really the most striking one, this was one where the essays had no actual. objective errors There were no errors in grammar or spelling just a bunch of sub-optimal word
fewer errors, yeah, about 19 in this particular essay versus about 24. and our third study, which was really the most striking one, this was one where the essays had no actual objective errors. there were no errors in grammar or spelling; just a bunch of sub-optimal word choices.
Everybody had the same essay?
everybody. had the same
Everybody had the same
everybody had the same essay?
Precisely. So each person comes in they come in individually, of course they each get one essay to read. It's the same essay for everyone. And just before they start, they're given a pen with which to do the corrections and mark the grade and that pen is either red or blue. And we found in this third study that the p...
precisely so each person comes in they come in. individually of course they. each get one essay to read it's the same essay. for everyone and just before they start they're given, a pen with which to do the corrections and mark the grade; and that pen is either red or blue and we found in this, third study that the p...
Precisely So each person comes in they come in individually of course they each get one essay to read It's the same essay for everyone. And just before they start they're given a pen with, which to do the corrections and. mark the grade, and that pen is either red or blue And we found in this third study that the peo...
precisely. so each person comes in they come in individually, of course they each get one essay to read. it's the same essay for everyone. and just before they start, they're given a pen with which to do the corrections and mark the grade and that pen is either red or blue. and we found in this third study that the p...
How wide was the gap between those who had the blue and those who had the red pens? I mean, how wide was the disparity?
how, wide was the, gap between those who had the blue and those who had the red pens? i mean how wide. was the
How wide was the gap between those who had the blue and those who had the red pens? I mean. how wide was the
how wide was the gap between those who had the blue and those who had the red pens? i mean, how wide was the disparity?
It was about four-point to 100-point scale. So the difference between a B-minus and a C-plus.
it was about four-point to 100-point scale so the difference between a b-minus and a
It was about, four-point to 100-point scale So the difference, between. a, B-minus and a
it was about four-point to 100-point scale. so the difference between a b-minus and a c-plus.
So it was that big simply because of the color of their pens?
so it was that big simply because of the color of their
So it was that big simply because. of the color of their
so it was that big simply because of the color of their pens?
Yeah, it is. I mean, these are subjective errors, in a sense. So people are reading this essay and they're deciding kind of freely; there's no obvious answer that this is right and this is wrong. They're kind of deciding how good is this thing? When you have that kind of subjectivity in grading, all sorts of little thi...
yeah it. is i mean these are subjective errors in a sense so people are reading this essay and they're deciding kind of freely, there's no. obvious answer that this is right and this is wrong they're kind of deciding how good is this thing? when you have that kind of, subjectivity in, grading all sorts of little things...
Yeah it is I mean these are subjective errors. in a sense So people are reading this essay and they're deciding kind, of, freely there's no obvious answer that this is, right and this is wrong They're kind of deciding how good is this thing? When you have that kind of subjectivity in grading all, sorts of little things...
yeah, it is. i mean, these are subjective errors, in a sense. so people are reading this essay and they're deciding kind of freely; there's no obvious answer that this is right and this is wrong. they're kind of deciding how good is this thing? when you have that kind of subjectivity in grading, all sorts of little thi...
What does this tell us about red pens?
what does this tell us about red
What does this tell us about red
what does this tell us about red pens?
Well, it tells us that they're a source of influence that we're usually unaware of. They certainly activate these ideas of failure and wrongness and correction.
well it tells us that they're a source of influence that we're usually unaware of they certainly, activate these ideas of failure and wrongness and
Well it tells us that they're, a source of influence that we're usually unaware of They certainly activate these ideas of failure and, wrongness and
well, it tells us that they're a source of influence that we're usually unaware of. they certainly activate these ideas of failure and wrongness and correction.