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And this week, we're going to go back to the year 1999. You remember 11 years ago - that was on New Year's Eve of 1999, SCIENCE FRIDAY was worried about computers. You got to remember this. Many folks around the world were celebrating. Some were waiting for the clocks on their computers to roll over to the year 2000, t... | and this week. we're going to go. back to the year 1999. you remember 11 years ago, - that was on new year's eve of. 1999, science friday was worried about computers you got to remember this many folks. around the world were celebrating some were waiting for the clocks on their computers to roll over, to the year 2000,... | And this week we're. going to go back to. the year 1999. You remember 11 years ago - that. was on New Year's Eve of 1999, SCIENCE FRIDAY was worried about computers You, got to remember this Many folks around the world were celebrating Some were waiting for the clocks on their computers to roll over to, the year 2000, ... | and this week, we're going to go back to the year 1999. you remember 11 years ago - that was on new year's eve of 1999, science friday was worried about computers. you got to remember this. many folks around the world were celebrating. some were waiting for the clocks on their computers to roll over to the year 2000, t... |
And now I want to join - I'll be joined by Bruce Beach, who is founder of the Ark Two Survival Community outside of Toronto, Canada. And he has actually built himself or is living now in a bunker in preparation for possible problems with Y2K. Welcome to the program, Bruce Beach. | and now i want to join - i'll be joined by bruce beach who is founder of the ark two survival community outside of toronto, canada and he has actually built himself or. is, living now in a bunker in preparation for possible problems with y2k welcome to the program bruce | And now I want to join - I'll be joined by, Bruce Beach who is; founder of the Ark, Two Survival. Community outside of Toronto Canada And he has actually built himself or is living now in a bunker in preparation for possible problems with Y2K Welcome to the program Bruce | and now i want to join - i'll be joined by bruce beach, who is founder of the ark two survival community outside of toronto, canada. and he has actually built himself or is living now in a bunker in preparation for possible problems with y2k. welcome to the program, bruce beach. |
Hi, Ira. Waiting for the ball to drop, are you? | hi ira, waiting for the ball to drop are | Hi Ira, Waiting for the ball to drop are | hi, ira. waiting for the ball to drop, are you? |
Are you waiting for the ball to drop? | are you waiting for the ball to. | Are you waiting for. the, ball to | are you waiting for the ball to drop? |
Mm-hmm. There was a report on one New York City radio station this morning that said that New Zealand had lost power for a few minutes. You didn't hear anything about that, did you? | mm-hmm. there was a report, on one new york city radio station this morning that. said that new zealand, had lost power for a few minutes you didn't hear anything about that did | Mm-hmm There was a; report on one New York City radio station this morning that said, that New Zealand had lost power for a few minutes You didn't hear anything about that did | mm-hmm. there was a report on one new york city radio station this morning that said that new zealand had lost power for a few minutes. you didn't hear anything about that, did you? |
I think they should definitely have a voice. I mean, I think it is akin to what we have in Washington, D.C. where you still have taxation without representation. I think it's almost incredible that in 2006 we have appendages of the United States where citizens are affected by U.S. laws are pretty much treated as U.S.... | i think they should definitely have a voice i mean i think it, is akin to what, we have in washington d.c where you still have taxation without representation i think it's. almost incredible that in 2006 we have appendages, of the united states where citizens are affected by u.s laws are pretty much treated as u.s ci... | I think they should. definitely have a voice I mean I think it is akin to what we have in Washington D.C where you still have taxation without representation I think it's almost incredible that in 2006 we have appendages, of the United States, where citizens are affected, by U.S; laws are pretty, much treated as, U.S... | i think they should definitely have a voice. i mean, i think it is akin to what we have in washington, d.c. where you still have taxation without representation. i think it's almost incredible that in 2006 we have appendages of the united states where citizens are affected by u.s. laws are pretty much treated as u.s.... |
Bob? | bob? | ||
Puerto Rico's voted several times and they've consistently rejected statehood. And so I think that speaks because one of the arguments or the argument, I believe, that the government uses in denying them this right is that only states, only people who live in states can vote in the United States, in the 50 states, can... | puerto rico's voted several times and they've consistently rejected statehood and so i think that speaks because one of the arguments or the argument i believe that the government, uses in denying them this right is that only states, only people who live in states can vote in the united states in the 50 states can act... | Puerto Rico's voted several times and they've consistently rejected statehood And so I think that speaks because one of the arguments or the argument I believe that the, government uses in denying them this right is that only, states only people who live in states can vote in, the United States in the 50 states can ac... | puerto rico's voted several times and they've consistently rejected statehood. and so i think that speaks because one of the arguments or the argument, i believe, that the government uses in denying them this right is that only states, only people who live in states can vote in the united states, in the 50 states, can... |
So what has to happen, of course, is there has to be an amendment to the constitution as which is what happened with Washington, D.C. giving them the right to vote. And it remains to be seen if there is enough backing for something like that to happen here. | so what has to happen of course is there has to be an amendment to. the, constitution as which is what happened with washington, d.c giving them the right to vote and it remains, to be seen if there is enough backing for something like that to happen. | So what has to happen of course is there has to be an amendment to, the constitution as which is what happened with Washington D.C giving them the right to vote And it remains to be. seen if there, is enough backing for, something like that to happen | so what has to happen, of course, is there has to be an amendment to the constitution as which is what happened with washington, d.c. giving them the right to vote. and it remains to be seen if there is enough backing for something like that to happen here. |
Yvonne, you know, ultimately in some ways this is up to people in Puerto Rico to decide if they even want to try to be a U.S. state. Why do you think that there has been so much resistance to becoming a U.S. state even though it would confer extra voting rights? | yvonne you know ultimately in some, ways this is up to people in puerto rico, to, decide if they even want to try to be a u.s state why do. you think that there has been so much resistance to, becoming a u.s state even though it would confer, extra voting. | Yvonne you know ultimately in some ways this is up to people in Puerto Rico to decide if they even want to try to be a; U.S state Why do. you think that, there has been so much resistance to becoming a U.S state even though. it would confer extra voting | yvonne, you know, ultimately in some ways this is up to people in puerto rico to decide if they even want to try to be a u.s. state. why do you think that there has been so much resistance to becoming a u.s. state even though it would confer extra voting rights? |
Well, I think it's an issue about whether or not they want to retain their own individuality, and as was just mentioned, in 1998 they had a referendum and 46 percent of Puerto Ricans decided, voted in favor of statehood, 2.5 percent voted for independence, total independence from the United States, and 50 percent or th... | well i think it's, an issue about whether or not they want to retain their. own individuality and as was just mentioned, in 1998 they had a referendum and 46 percent. of puerto ricans decided voted in favor of statehood 2.5 percent; voted for independence total independence from. the united states. and 50 percent or th... | Well I think it's, an issue about. whether. or not they want to retain their own individuality and. as was just mentioned in 1998 they had a referendum and 46 percent of Puerto Ricans. decided voted in favor of statehood 2.5 percent voted for independence total independence from the United States and, 50 percent or the... | well, i think it's an issue about whether or not they want to retain their own individuality, and as was just mentioned, in 1998 they had a referendum and 46 percent of puerto ricans decided, voted in favor of statehood, 2.5 percent voted for independence, total independence from the united states, and 50 percent or th... |
So I think that does speak to the ambivalence. Certainly they have some limited benefits to being under the aegis of the United States, but for them, I think a lot of Puerto Ricans think it might be more of a loss to their identity as Puerto Ricans to become a state. And frankly, a lot of the people who voted for sta... | so i think, that. does speak to the ambivalence certainly they have some limited benefits to being under the aegis of the united, states but for them i think a lot of puerto ricans; think it might, be more of a loss to their identity as puerto ricans to become a state and; frankly a. lot of the people who voted for s... | So I. think that, does speak to the ambivalence, Certainly they have some limited benefits to being under the aegis of the United States but for them I think a. lot of Puerto Ricans think it. might be more of a loss to their identity. as Puerto Ricans to become a state And frankly a lot of the people who voted for; s... | so i think that does speak to the ambivalence. certainly they have some limited benefits to being under the aegis of the united states, but for them, i think a lot of puerto ricans think it might be more of a loss to their identity as puerto ricans to become a state. and frankly, a lot of the people who voted for sta... |
Walter, let's tackle the topic of drug free school zones. They are almost a joke in some communities because if you want to buy drugs, some folks say you just go to a drug free school zone. But these laws have been a staple of the war on drugs. Now some legislators and activists, are asking whether these laws are fa... | walter let's tackle the topic of drug free school zones, they are almost a joke in some communities because if you want to buy drugs some folks say you just go to a drug free school zone but these laws have been a staple of. the war on, drugs now some legislators and activists are. asking, whether, these laws are fa... | Walter let's tackle the topic of drug free school zones They are almost a joke in some communities because if you want, to buy drugs some folks, say you just go to a drug free school; zone But these laws have been a staple of the war on drugs Now some legislators and activists are asking whether these laws are fair ... | walter, let's tackle the topic of drug free school zones. they are almost a joke in some communities because if you want to buy drugs, some folks say you just go to a drug free school zone. but these laws have been a staple of the war on drugs. now some legislators and activists, are asking whether these laws are fa... |
In fact, only 1 percent of the cases that come out of these laws involved drug sales to youth, but they have been disproportionately affecting blacks and Hispanics. Should these laws be reformed and revised? | in fact only 1 percent of the cases that come out of, these laws involved drug sales to youth but they have been disproportionately affecting blacks and hispanics should. these laws be reformed and | In fact only 1 percent of the cases that come out of these laws involved drug sales to youth but they have been disproportionately affecting blacks and Hispanics Should these laws, be reformed and | in fact, only 1 percent of the cases that come out of these laws involved drug sales to youth, but they have been disproportionately affecting blacks and hispanics. should these laws be reformed and revised? |
Well, I certainly think they should be revisited. I mean, I think, you know, if you look at drug use in the United States, certainly we still have a serious problem, and I think there was a psychological effect when these laws first went into place that we wanted to think that, at least around schools, that there was ... | well i certainly think they should be revisited i mean i think you know if you look at drug, use in the united states certainly we still have a serious problem and i think there was a psychological effect when these laws first went into; place that. we wanted, to think that at least around schools that there was sort ... | Well I certainly think they should be revisited I mean I think you know if you look at drug use. in the United States certainly we. still have a serious problem and I think there was a; psychological effect when these laws. first went into place that we wanted; to think. that at least around. schools that, there was s... | well, i certainly think they should be revisited. i mean, i think, you know, if you look at drug use in the united states, certainly we still have a serious problem, and i think there was a psychological effect when these laws first went into place that we wanted to think that, at least around schools, that there was ... |
So I think it is time to revisit this situation, and I think there might be some other policy remedies that are more effective than this notion of creating these drug free school zones. | so i think it is time to revisit this situation; and i think there might be some other policy remedies that, are. more effective than this, notion of creating these drug free school | So I think it is time to revisit this situation and I think there might. be some, other policy, remedies that are, more. effective than this notion of creating these drug free school | so i think it is time to revisit this situation, and i think there might be some other policy remedies that are more effective than this notion of creating these drug free school zones. |
Bob, in fact, this is a really staggering little piece of information. Around Yale University, the only place that is not included in a drug free school zone is the golf course, which shows how big these radiuses are. And in some cases, these laws entail mandatory prison terms, precludes such options as probation or ... | bob in fact this is a really staggering little piece of information. around yale university the only place that is not, included in a drug free. school zone is; the golf course which shows how big these. radiuses are and in some cases these laws entail mandatory prison terms precludes such options as probation or tre... | Bob in fact this is a really staggering little piece of information Around Yale University, the only place, that is not included, in a drug free school zone is the golf course which shows how big these radiuses are And in some cases these laws entail mandatory prison terms precludes such options as probation, or trea... | bob, in fact, this is a really staggering little piece of information. around yale university, the only place that is not included in a drug free school zone is the golf course, which shows how big these radiuses are. and in some cases, these laws entail mandatory prison terms, precludes such options as probation or ... |
Saying no rehabilitation for you? | saying no rehabilitation for | Saying no rehabilitation for | saying no rehabilitation for you? |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
Well I think it's the drug user who needs the rehabilitation more so than the drug dealer. I don't have any sympathy for drug dealers. The fact that entire cities in some cases are considered drug-free zones so that you get more intense penalties, 'cause that's the thing, if you're caught selling, obviously, selling dr... | well i, think it's the drug user who needs the rehabilitation more so than the drug dealer i don't have any sympathy for. drug, dealers the fact that entire cities in some cases are considered, drug-free zones so that you get more intense penalties 'cause that's, the thing if you're caught selling obviously selling dru... | Well I; think it's the drug user who needs the rehabilitation more so, than the drug dealer I don't have, any sympathy for drug dealers The fact that. entire cities in some cases are considered drug-free zones so that you get more intense penalties 'cause that's the, thing if. you're caught selling, obviously selling, ... | well i think it's the drug user who needs the rehabilitation more so than the drug dealer. i don't have any sympathy for drug dealers. the fact that entire cities in some cases are considered drug-free zones so that you get more intense penalties, 'cause that's the thing, if you're caught selling, obviously, selling dr... |
It, it doesn't bother me that drug dealers in urban areas who are typically selling to my people, black people, which is something I'd like to stop, I don't really mind if they're going to get stiffer penalties. If it's, maybe they should go out to the golf course and pedal their wares if they want to not face a penalt... | it, it doesn't bother me that, drug dealers in urban, areas who are typically selling to my people. black people which is something i'd like to stop i don't really mind if they're going to get; stiffer penalties if it's maybe they should go out. to the golf course and pedal, their wares if they want to not face a penal... | It it doesn't bother me that drug dealers, in urban areas who are typically selling to my people black people which is, something I'd like to stop I don't really mind, if they're going to get stiffer penalties If it's maybe they should go out to the golf course and pedal their wares if they want to not face; a, penalty... | it, it doesn't bother me that drug dealers in urban areas who are typically selling to my people, black people, which is something i'd like to stop, i don't really mind if they're going to get stiffer penalties. if it's, maybe they should go out to the golf course and pedal their wares if they want to not face a penalt... |
Yvonne, what Bob is saying, really gets to a fundamental question in the black community? You many have people in the same community, you do have people in the same community who are dealers, who are users, who are victims, who are friends and family of users. What is the appropriate way to try to strategize a criminal... | yvonne what bob is saying really gets. to a fundamental question in; the black community? you many have people in the same community you do have people in the same community. who are dealers who, are users who are victims who are friends and family of users what is the appropriate way to try to. strategize a criminal j... | Yvonne what Bob is. saying really gets to a fundamental question in the black community? You many have people in the same community, you do have people. in the, same community who are dealers who, are; users who. are victims who are friends and family of users What is the, appropriate way to try to strategize a crimina... | yvonne, what bob is saying, really gets to a fundamental question in the black community? you many have people in the same community, you do have people in the same community who are dealers, who are users, who are victims, who are friends and family of users. what is the appropriate way to try to strategize a criminal... |
Wow, that's a large question, Farai. | wow that's a large question | Wow that's a large question | wow, that's a large question, farai. |
I know, I'm throwing it at you. | i know i'm. throwing it at | I, know I'm throwing it at | i know, i'm throwing it at you. |
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We brought up some incredible voting irregularities, not just in St. Lucie County but also some that we found in Palm Beach County. But now is not the time for the people down here in Congressional District 18 to be left in the lurch. | we brought up some incredible voting irregularities not just in st lucie county, but also some that we found. in palm beach county but now is not the time, for the people down here in congressional, district 18 to be left in the | We brought up some incredible. voting irregularities not just in St Lucie County. but also some that we found in Palm Beach, County But now is not the time for the people, down here in Congressional District 18 to be left in the | we brought up some incredible voting irregularities, not just in st. lucie county but also some that we found in palm beach county. but now is not the time for the people down here in congressional district 18 to be left in the lurch. |
Well I think, I think first things first, I have to agree with Bob. I think the whole conversation about whether or not African Americans or Latinos are disproportionately affected is a red herring. I think what is more interesting, I would want to know is, are there more drug activities in this area? If there's more a... | well i. think i think, first things first i have to agree with bob i think the whole conversation about whether or not african americans or latinos are disproportionately affected is a red herring i think what is, more interesting i would want to know is are there more drug activities in this area? if there's more acti... | Well. I think I think first, things first I have to agree with Bob I think the whole conversation about whether or not African Americans or Latinos are disproportionately affected is a red herring, I think what is more interesting I would want to, know. is are there more drug activities in this area? If there's more ac... | well i think, i think first things first, i have to agree with bob. i think the whole conversation about whether or not african americans or latinos are disproportionately affected is a red herring. i think what is more interesting, i would want to know is, are there more drug activities in this area? if there's more a... |
And, therefore, they're going to be the people who you are going to arrest. So I think this is like an apples and oranges conversation. Who, were is the crime, and who are the drug dealers? And I think that's the number one issue that we have to deal with. | and therefore they're going to be the people who you are going to arrest so i think this is like an apples, and oranges conversation who were is the; crime and who are the drug dealers? and i think that's the number one issue that, we have to deal | And therefore they're going to be the people who you are, going to arrest So I think this is, like an apples and oranges conversation Who were is the crime and who are the drug dealers? And I think that's the number one, issue that we have to deal | and, therefore, they're going to be the people who you are going to arrest. so i think this is like an apples and oranges conversation. who, were is the crime, and who are the drug dealers? and i think that's the number one issue that we have to deal with. |
I also, too, think that there should be certainly more drug treatment facilities for people who have addiction problems and who want to clean themselves up, but, again, I tend to agree with Bob. I'm not so sympathetic to drug dealers. I think that, certainly, if this is first time offense, perhaps you should not get th... | i, also too think that there should. be certainly more drug treatment facilities for people who have, addiction problems. and who want to clean themselves up but again; i tend to agree with bob i'm not; so sympathetic to. drug dealers i think that certainly if this is first time offense perhaps you should not get the s... | I also too think that there, should be certainly more, drug treatment facilities for people who have addiction problems and who. want to clean themselves up but again I tend, to agree with Bob I'm not so sympathetic to drug dealers I think that certainly if this is first time offense perhaps, you should not get the sam... | i also, too, think that there should be certainly more drug treatment facilities for people who have addiction problems and who want to clean themselves up, but, again, i tend to agree with bob. i'm not so sympathetic to drug dealers. i think that, certainly, if this is first time offense, perhaps you should not get th... |
I think that children should be protected, perhaps more so than adults. So if these safety zones are not working, that that needs to be addressed, but I think that, you know, we keeping throwing race at issues a lot of times, and they are smoke screens to deal with the issues that in some areas, there is more crime. In... | i think that children should be protected perhaps more so than, adults so, if these safety zones are not working that that needs to, be addressed but i think that you know we keeping throwing. race at issues a lot, of times and they are smoke screens to deal, with the issues that in some areas there is. more crime in s... | I think that children should be protected perhaps more so than adults So if these safety zones are not working that that needs to be addressed but I think that you know we keeping. throwing race at, issues; a lot of times and they are smoke screens. to deal with the issues that in some areas there is more crime In some... | i think that children should be protected, perhaps more so than adults. so if these safety zones are not working, that that needs to be addressed, but i think that, you know, we keeping throwing race at issues a lot of times, and they are smoke screens to deal with the issues that in some areas, there is more crime. in... |
Suburbia has their own set of issues, and that's it. If there were white people who could make money coming into urban areas and selling drugs, they certainly would do it, and they certainly are already there. So, I think we need to deal with things on the ground instead of overlaying everything with race automatically... | suburbia has their own set of issues and that's it if there were white people who could make. money coming into urban areas and selling drugs they certainly would do it, and they certainly are already there so. i think we need to deal, with, things on the, ground instead of overlaying everything with race | Suburbia has their own set of issues. and that's it If there were white people who could make money coming into urban areas. and selling drugs; they, certainly would do it and they certainly are already, there So I think we need to deal with things on, the ground instead of overlaying everything. with race | suburbia has their own set of issues, and that's it. if there were white people who could make money coming into urban areas and selling drugs, they certainly would do it, and they certainly are already there. so, i think we need to deal with things on the ground instead of overlaying everything with race automatically... |
Walter, what about the issue of rehabilitation? Bob was essentially saying, look, I want to rehabilitate the drug users, I don't care so much about the dealers. But some of the dealers see prison as basically a school for crime. You go in, you come out with more skills, you can commit better crime. | walter what about the issue of rehabilitation? bob was essentially, saying, look i want to rehabilitate the drug users i don't care so, much about, the dealers but some of the dealers see prison as; basically a school for crime, you go in you come out with more skills you can commit better | Walter what about the issue of rehabilitation? Bob was essentially saying look I want to rehabilitate the drug users I don't care so much about the dealers But some of the dealers see prison, as basically, a school for, crime You go. in you come out with, more skills you can commit, better | walter, what about the issue of rehabilitation? bob was essentially saying, look, i want to rehabilitate the drug users, i don't care so much about the dealers. but some of the dealers see prison as basically a school for crime. you go in, you come out with more skills, you can commit better crime. |
Well I think we have to treat the addiction side of the public health problem, and I don't think we do. I think we treat it as sort of a criminal justice problem, and I think that's part of the overall problem with U.S. drug policy right now. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever, and until we begin treating people that... | well i think we have to treat the addiction side of the public health problem and i don't think we do i think we treat it as sort of a criminal justice, problem and i think that's part of the overall problem with u.s drug policy right now it doesn't make any sense whatsoever and until we begin treating people that have... | Well I think, we have to treat the addiction side of the. public health problem and I don't think we do I. think we treat it as sort of a, criminal justice problem and I think that's part of the overall problem with U.S drug policy right. now It doesn't make, any sense whatsoever and until we begin treating people that... | well i think we have to treat the addiction side of the public health problem, and i don't think we do. i think we treat it as sort of a criminal justice problem, and i think that's part of the overall problem with u.s. drug policy right now. it doesn't make any sense whatsoever, and until we begin treating people that... |
You know, in terms of the racial overlay, you know I will tell you, you know, drugs are rampant in suburban communities. And I think it's a matter of how, you know, environments are perceived because you could probably go into any suburban community, particularly around a school, and find major drug activity. And perha... | you know in terms; of the, racial overlay you know i will tell you you know drugs are, rampant, in suburban communities, and i think it's a matter of how you, know environments are perceived because you could probably go into any suburban community particularly. around a school and find, major drug activity and perhaps... | You know in terms of the racial overlay you know I will tell you you know drugs are rampant in suburban communities And I think it's a matter of how. you know environments are perceived because you. could; probably go into any suburban community particularly around a school and. find major drug activity And perhaps you... | you know, in terms of the racial overlay, you know i will tell you, you know, drugs are rampant in suburban communities. and i think it's a matter of how, you know, environments are perceived because you could probably go into any suburban community, particularly around a school, and find major drug activity. and perha... |
I think U.S. drug policy just has not made sense, period, across the board. And until we begin to really treat this as a public health issue, really determine that we're going to make sure that we put the dealers behind bars and not let them get out for a substantial period of time, and make this notion of dealing drug... | i think u.s drug policy, just has not made sense period across the board and until we begin to really treat this as a public health issue really determine that we're going to make sure that we put the dealers behind bars and not let them get out for a substantial period of time and make this notion of dealing drugs no ... | I think U.S drug, policy just has not made sense period across the board And. until we begin to really treat this as a public health issue really determine that we're going to make sure, that we, put. the dealers behind bars and. not let them get out for a substantial, period of time and make, this notion of dealing dr... | i think u.s. drug policy just has not made sense, period, across the board. and until we begin to really treat this as a public health issue, really determine that we're going to make sure that we put the dealers behind bars and not let them get out for a substantial period of time, and make this notion of dealing drug... |
But I think the point, what I was trying to get at, at least in terms of clarifying is that in certain communities, it's right there in your face. If you're standing on the corner, you're accosted by the dealers, and that's a reality. Where, certainly, I agree with you, there are drugs everywhere, but at least in some ... | but, i think the point what i was trying to get at at least in terms of clarifying, is that in certain communities it's right there in your face if you're standing on the. corner you're accosted by the dealers and that's a; reality where. certainly i agree with you there are drugs everywhere but at least in some other,... | But I. think the point what I was trying to get at at least in terms of. clarifying is that in, certain communities it's right, there in your face If you're standing on the corner you're accosted by the, dealers. and that's a reality Where certainly I agree; with you there are drugs; everywhere but at least in some oth... | but i think the point, what i was trying to get at, at least in terms of clarifying is that in certain communities, it's right there in your face. if you're standing on the corner, you're accosted by the dealers, and that's a reality. where, certainly, i agree with you, there are drugs everywhere, but at least in some ... |
I'm not pretending that doesn't exist. | i'm not pretending that doesn't | I'm not pretending that doesn't | i'm not pretending that doesn't exist. |
Sure. | sure. | ||
I just want to make sure that when we begin looking at this that we look at both sides. I mean, I would agree with you, but I've also been confronted, you know, in my space in suburban communities. | i. just want to make, sure that when, we begin looking at, this that. we look at both sides i mean i would agree with; you but i've also been confronted you know. in my space in suburban | I just want to make sure that when we begin looking at this that we look at both sides I mean I would agree, with you but I've also been confronted you know in, my space in suburban | i just want to make sure that when we begin looking at this that we look at both sides. i mean, i would agree with you, but i've also been confronted, you know, in my space in suburban communities. |
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I just think that we have this tendency to believe about the intensity in urban community but not understand that if you talk to a lot of parents in suburban communities, they're scared to death because this stuff is now so prevalent. | i just; think that we have this tendency to believe about; the intensity in urban community but not understand that if you talk to a lot of parents in, suburban communities they're scared to death because this, stuff is now so | I just think that we have this tendency to. believe about the intensity in urban community but not understand that if you talk, to a lot of parents in, suburban communities they're scared to death because this stuff is now so | i just think that we have this tendency to believe about the intensity in urban community but not understand that if you talk to a lot of parents in suburban communities, they're scared to death because this stuff is now so prevalent. |
Right. | right. | ||
And so public that I think we tend to always think about large, metropolitan, urban centers. We've got a problem across the board with drugs in the United States and until we really have a common sense approach, unfortunately, our children are going to be the victims. | and so public that i think we tend, to always. think about large metropolitan urban centers we've got a problem. across the board with drugs in the united states and until we really have a common sense approach unfortunately our children are, going to be the | And so public that I think we tend to always think about. large metropolitan urban centers We've got a problem across the board with drugs in the United States and until we really have a common sense approach unfortunately our children are going to, be the | and so public that i think we tend to always think about large, metropolitan, urban centers. we've got a problem across the board with drugs in the united states and until we really have a common sense approach, unfortunately, our children are going to be the victims. |
All right, we are going to have to leave it right there, a great topic. In our New York bureau Walter Fields, CEO and publisher of the NorthStar Network.com, along with Bob Meadows of People Magazine, and in Washington D.C., Yvonne Bynoe, author of the book Stand and Deliver: Political Activism, Leadership and Hip Hop ... | all right we are going to have to. leave it right there a great topic in our new york bureau walter fields ceo and publisher of the northstar network.com along with bob meadows, of people magazine and in washington d.c., yvonne bynoe author of the book stand and deliver: political activism leadership and hip hop cultur... | All right we are going, to have to leave it right there a great topic In our New York bureau Walter Fields CEO and publisher of the NorthStar Network.com along with Bob Meadows of People Magazine and in Washington D.C., Yvonne Bynoe author of the book, Stand and Deliver: Political Activism Leadership and Hip Hop Cultur... | all right, we are going to have to leave it right there, a great topic. in our new york bureau walter fields, ceo and publisher of the northstar network.com, along with bob meadows of people magazine, and in washington d.c., yvonne bynoe, author of the book stand and deliver: political activism, leadership and hip hop ... |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
Nothing, and of course if you look at the history of sixth year in a presidential term, this would be the sixth year in 2014, will be the sixth year of the Obama presidency, and the out party often, almost always, does much better, does really well. Of course in 2008 - in 1998 with Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, the Repu... | nothing and of, course if you look at the history of sixth year in a presidential term this would be the sixth year in 2014, will be the sixth year of the obama presidency and the out party often almost always. does much, better does really well of course in, 2008 - in 1998 with clinton and monica. lewinsky the republi... | Nothing and of course if. you look at the history of sixth year in a presidential term this, would be the sixth year in 2014, will be the sixth year of the Obama. presidency; and the out party often almost always does much better does really well Of course in 2008 - in, 1998 with Clinton, and. Monica Lewinsky the Repub... | nothing, and of course if you look at the history of sixth year in a presidential term, this would be the sixth year in 2014, will be the sixth year of the obama presidency, and the out party often, almost always, does much better, does really well. of course in 2008 - in 1998 with clinton and monica lewinsky, the repu... |
In the meantime, one more, Arizona Ron Barber, who replaced Gabby Giffords in a special election, that one came down to the wire, as well. | in the meantime one more arizona ron barber who replaced gabby giffords in a special election that one came down to the wire as | In the meantime, one more Arizona Ron Barber who replaced Gabby Giffords in a special election that one came down to the wire as | in the meantime, one more, arizona ron barber, who replaced gabby giffords in a special election, that one came down to the wire, as well. |
It was very close to it. Ron Barber was declared the winner. Kirsten Sinema, another Democrat in Arizona... | it was, very close to it ron barber was declared the winner kirsten sinema another democrat, in | It was very close to it Ron Barber was declared. the, winner Kirsten Sinema another Democrat in. | it was very close to it. ron barber was declared the winner. kirsten sinema, another democrat in arizona... |
Picture that, yeah. | picture that | Picture that | picture that, yeah. |
You're so funny today. She was declared the winner. And also two Republicans in California, Dan Lundgren and Brian Bilbray since our last show, they were - it was announced that they had been defeated for another term. So basically now it's down to 234 Republicans, 200 Democrats, possibly 201 Democrats if North Carolin... | you're so, funny today she was declared the; winner and; also two republicans in california dan lundgren and brian bilbray since our last show. they were - it was announced that, they had been defeated for another term so basically now it's, down to 234 republicans 200 democrats possibly 201 democrats if north carolina... | You're so funny today She was declared the winner And also two Republicans in California Dan Lundgren and Brian Bilbray since our last show they were. - it was announced that they had been defeated for another term So basically now it's down to 234 Republicans 200 Democrats possibly 201 Democrats if North. Carolina whi... | you're so funny today. she was declared the winner. and also two republicans in california, dan lundgren and brian bilbray since our last show, they were - it was announced that they had been defeated for another term. so basically now it's down to 234 republicans, 200 democrats, possibly 201 democrats if north carolin... |
In the meantime, some people might look ahead to 2014, as we just did, or 2016, but what about 2013? | in the, meantime some people might, look ahead to 2014, as; we just, did or 2016, but what about | In the meantime some people might look ahead to 2014, as we just did or, 2016, but what about | in the meantime, some people might look ahead to 2014, as we just did, or 2016, but what about 2013? |
Well, the news in Virginia, of course there's two gubernatorial contests, and of course as we always say, we like to know who the next gubernors(ph) will be in Virginia and New Jersey. And in New Jersey, Chris Christie is running for a second term, and perhaps a lot of what he did with Hurricane Sandy may have been mor... | well the news. in virginia of course there's two gubernatorial contests and of course as, we always say we like to know who the next gubernors(ph) will be in virginia and new jersey and in new jersey chris christie is running. for. a second term and, perhaps a lot of what he did with hurricane sandy may have been more ... | Well. the news in Virginia. of course there's two gubernatorial; contests and of course as we always say we like to know who the. next gubernors(ph) will, be in Virginia and New Jersey And in New Jersey Chris Christie is running for a second term and perhaps a lot. of what he did with Hurricane Sandy may have been more... | well, the news in virginia, of course there's two gubernatorial contests, and of course as we always say, we like to know who the next gubernors(ph) will be in virginia and new jersey. and in new jersey, chris christie is running for a second term, and perhaps a lot of what he did with hurricane sandy may have been mor... |
Chilly reception for Chris Christie at the Republican Governors Association. | chilly reception for chris christie at the republican governors | Chilly reception for Chris Christie at the Republican Governors | chilly reception for chris christie at the republican governors association. |
Yes but a very good reception back home. They all feel that he did his job, and the polls show him doing a very good job in the wake of Hurricane Sandy. But the news this week is in Virginia where Senator Mark Warner, former governor of Virginia, announced once and for all that he would not leave the Senate to return t... | yes but a very good reception, back home they all feel that he did his job and the polls show him doing a, very good job in the wake of hurricane sandy but the news this week is in virginia where senator mark, warner former governor of virginia announced once and for all that he would not leave, the senate to return to... | Yes but a very good reception back home. They all, feel that he did his job and the polls show him doing a very good job in the wake of Hurricane Sandy But the news. this week is in Virginia where Senator Mark Warner former governor of. Virginia announced once and for all that he would not leave the Senate to return to... | yes but a very good reception back home. they all feel that he did his job, and the polls show him doing a very good job in the wake of hurricane sandy. but the news this week is in virginia where senator mark warner, former governor of virginia, announced once and for all that he would not leave the senate to return t... |
And the attorney general, a conservative figure there, Mr. Cuccinelli, seen as the favorite for the Republican nomination, but he will not go unopposed. | and the attorney general. a conservative, figure there mr cuccinelli seen as the favorite for the republican nomination but he will not go | And the attorney general a conservative, figure there, Mr, Cuccinelli seen as the favorite for the Republican nomination but he, will not go | and the attorney general, a conservative figure there, mr. cuccinelli, seen as the favorite for the republican nomination, but he will not go unopposed. |
Right, Bill Bolling, Bill Bolling is the lieutenant governor. Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is the conservative choice, and of course in Virginia, the only state in the country you cannot succeed yourself as governor, so Bob McDonnell after one term has to retire. | right bill bolling bill bolling is the lieutenant governor attorney general ken cuccinelli is the, conservative choice and of course in virginia the only state in the country you cannot succeed yourself as governor so bob mcdonnell after one term has to | Right, Bill Bolling Bill Bolling is the lieutenant governor, Attorney. General Ken Cuccinelli is, the conservative choice and. of course in Virginia. the only state in the country you. cannot succeed yourself as; governor so Bob McDonnell after one term has to | right, bill bolling, bill bolling is the lieutenant governor. attorney general ken cuccinelli is the conservative choice, and of course in virginia, the only state in the country you cannot succeed yourself as governor, so bob mcdonnell after one term has to retire. |
And Chris Christie could face significant opposition if Corey Booker, the mayor of Newark, decides to oppose him. | and chris christie could face significant opposition if corey booker the mayor of newark decides to oppose. | And Chris Christie could face significant opposition if Corey Booker the, mayor of Newark decides to oppose | and chris christie could face significant opposition if corey booker, the mayor of newark, decides to oppose him. |
That's exactly right. I mean, those numbers are very, very close in New Jersey. That's why Sandy, you talk about - aside from all the horror that it committed, it also has political calculations, as well. | that's exactly right i mean those numbers, are very very close. in new jersey that's why sandy you talk about - aside from all the horror that it committed it also, has political calculations, as | That's exactly, right I mean those numbers are very very close in New Jersey. That's why Sandy you talk about, - aside from all the. horror that it, committed it also has political, calculations as | that's exactly right. i mean, those numbers are very, very close in new jersey. that's why sandy, you talk about - aside from all the horror that it committed, it also has political calculations, as well. |
In the meantime, we have some people on the line who think they know the answer to this week's trivia question, the U.S. secretary of state who also ran for U.S. Senate and lost, the most recent one in any case, 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org. And we'll start with Bob(ph), and Bob's on the line from Rochester, Minne... | in the meantime we have some people on the line who think they know the answer to this week's trivia question the u.s secretary, of state who also. ran. for u.s, senate and lost the most recent one in any case 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org and we'll start with bob(ph), and bob's, on the line from rochester, | In the meantime we have some people on the line who think they know the. answer to, this week's trivia question the U.S secretary of state who also ran for U.S Senate and lost the most recent one in any case 800-989-8255. Email talk@npr.org. And. we'll start with Bob(ph), and Bob's on the line from Rochester. | in the meantime, we have some people on the line who think they know the answer to this week's trivia question, the u.s. secretary of state who also ran for u.s. senate and lost, the most recent one in any case, 800-989-8255. email talk@npr.org. and we'll start with bob(ph), and bob's on the line from rochester, minne... |
Hi, this is Bob Sixta(ph), hello, happy Thanksgiving to you both. | hi this is bob sixta(ph), hello happy thanksgiving to you | Hi this is Bob Sixta(ph), hello happy Thanksgiving to you, | hi, this is bob sixta(ph), hello, happy thanksgiving to you both. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
Bob, first-time caller? | bob first-time | Bob first-time, | bob, first-time caller? |
(LAUGHTER) | (laughter) | ||
Pardon? | pardon? | ||
Don't worry about it, Bob. How about your guess? James Baker. | don't worry about it bob how about your guess? james | Don't worry about it Bob How about your guess? James | don't worry about it, bob. how about your guess? james baker. |
James Baker actually did run for attorney general in the state of Texas, but he never ran for the U.S. Senate. | james baker. actually did run, for, attorney general in the state of texas but he; never ran for the, u.s | James Baker, actually did; run, for. attorney general in the state of Texas but. he, never ran for the U.S | james baker actually did run for attorney general in the state of texas, but he never ran for the u.s. senate. |
Oh, OK, thanks. | oh ok | Oh OK | oh, ok, thanks. |
All right, Bob, thanks very much. Let's see if we can go next to John(ph), John with us from Little Rock. | all right bob thanks very. much let's, see if we can go next to john(ph), john, with us from little | All right Bob thanks very much Let's see if we can go next to John(ph), John with us, from Little | all right, bob, thanks very much. let's see if we can go next to john(ph), john with us from little rock. |
Was it James Burns? | was it james | Was it James | was it james burns? |
James Burns of course served for President FDR and Harry Truman. | james burns of course served for. president fdr and; harry | James Burns. of course, served for President FDR and Harry | james burns of course served for president fdr and harry truman. |
Right, and James Burns was governor of South Carolina. I don't even know if he ran for the Senate. I don't believe he ran for the Senate, but in the event, I'm looking for the last person... | right and james burns was governor of, south carolina i don't even, know. if he ran for the senate i don't, believe he ran for the senate but in the event i'm looking for the last | Right, and James Burns was governor, of, South Carolina I don't even know if he ran for the. Senate I don't believe he ran for the Senate but in the event I'm looking for the last | right, and james burns was governor of south carolina. i don't even know if he ran for the senate. i don't believe he ran for the senate, but in the event, i'm looking for the last person... |
Someone since then. OK, thanks so much. | someone since then ok thanks so. | Someone since then OK thanks so | someone since then. ok, thanks so much. |
OK, nice try, though. | ok nice try | OK nice try | ok, nice try, though. |
Happy Thanksgiving. | happy | Happy | happy thanksgiving. |
So long. Let's see if we can go next to another Bob(ph), this one calling from Sacramento. | so long let's see, if we, can go. next to another, bob(ph), this one calling from | So long Let's see if. we can go. next to another Bob(ph), this one calling from | so long. let's see if we can go next to another bob(ph), this one calling from sacramento. |
Yeah, I'll try Henry Cabot Lodge. | yeah i'll try henry cabot | Yeah. I'll try Henry Cabot | yeah, i'll try henry cabot lodge. |
Henry Cabot Lodge was - let's see. He was never secretary of state. | henry cabot lodge was - let's see he was never secretary of | Henry Cabot Lodge was - let's see He was never secretary of | henry cabot lodge was - let's see. he was never secretary of state. |
Yeah, wild guess, thanks. | yeah wild guess | Yeah wild guess | yeah, wild guess, thanks. |
Nice try, though. | nice try | Nice try | nice try, though. |
He was U.N. ambassador but never secretary of state. | he. was u.n ambassador but never secretary of | He was; U.N ambassador but never secretary of | he was u.n. ambassador but never secretary of state. |
Was a senator, though. | was a senator | Was a senator | was a senator, though. |
He was, from Massachusetts, defeated by John F. Kennedy in 1952. | he was from massachusetts defeated by john f kennedy in | He was from Massachusetts defeated. by John F Kennedy in | he was, from massachusetts, defeated by john f. kennedy in 1952. |
Let's try Bob(ph), and this Bob is calling us from Kansas City. | let's try bob(ph), and this bob is calling us from kansas | Let's try Bob(ph), and. this Bob is calling us from Kansas | let's try bob(ph), and this bob is calling us from kansas city. |
John Foster Dulles? | john foster | John Foster | john foster dulles? |
John Foster Dulles is the correct answer. | john; foster dulles is the correct | John. Foster Dulles is the correct | john foster dulles is the correct answer. |
Ding, ding, ding. | ding ding | Ding ding, | ding, ding, ding. |
He was Eisenhower's secretary of state, but before that, he ran for the Senate from New York in 1949 and lost to Herbert Lehman. | he was eisenhower's secretary of state but before that. he ran for the senate from new york in 1949 and lost to herbert. | He was Eisenhower's secretary of state but before that. he ran for the Senate from New York in 1949 and lost to Herbert | he was eisenhower's secretary of state, but before that, he ran for the senate from new york in 1949 and lost to herbert lehman. |
So stay on the line, Bob, we will collect your particulars, and we'll send you that fabulous political junkie T-shirt. That is, by the way, for sale if you want to go to the NPR shop. Anybody can buy one. But Bob, nobody but winners like you will get the fabulous no-prize button. | so stay on the line bob we will collect your particulars and we'll send you that fabulous political junkie t-shirt that is by the. way. for sale if you want to go to the npr shop anybody can buy one; but bob nobody but winners like you will get, the fabulous no-prize, | So stay on the line Bob; we will collect your particulars and we'll send you that fabulous political junkie T-shirt. That is by the way for sale if you want to go to the NPR shop Anybody can buy one, But Bob nobody but winners, like you will get; the fabulous no-prize | so stay on the line, bob, we will collect your particulars, and we'll send you that fabulous political junkie t-shirt. that is, by the way, for sale if you want to go to the npr shop. anybody can buy one. but bob, nobody but winners like you will get the fabulous no-prize button. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
And if you look at the people who called, we had Bob, Bob, Bob... | and if you look at the people who called we had bob bob | And if you look at the people who called we had Bob. Bob | and if you look at the people who called, we had bob, bob, bob... |
Barbara Ann - I was going to say, there you go. In the meantime, this is one of the most curious things I've seen in recent times in the Senate. There is no nominee to be the next secretary of state. There is a secretary of state. She's winning plaudits in the Middle East even as we speak. In the meantime, Susan Rice h... | barbara ann - i, was. going to say there you go in the meantime this is one of the, most. curious things i've, seen in, recent, times in the senate; there is no nominee to be the next. secretary of state there is a secretary of state she's winning plaudits in the middle. east even as we speak in the meantime susan rice... | Barbara Ann - I, was going to say there you go In the meantime this. is one, of the most curious things I've seen in recent times in the Senate There is no, nominee to be the next secretary, of state There is a secretary of state She's winning plaudits in the Middle East even as we speak In the meantime, Susan Rice has... | barbara ann - i was going to say, there you go. in the meantime, this is one of the most curious things i've seen in recent times in the senate. there is no nominee to be the next secretary of state. there is a secretary of state. she's winning plaudits in the middle east even as we speak. in the meantime, susan rice h... |
You're absolutely right. The president has not announced a successor to Hillary Clinton, who has said that she will not serve in a second Obama term. But last week, or was it - I guess it was just last week, it was last week, when President Obama was asked at his news conference about the Republican opposition mostly l... | you're absolutely right the president, has not announced. a successor. to hillary clinton who has said that she will not serve in a, second obama term but last week or was it. - i guess it was just last week it was last week; when president obama was asked at his news. conference about the republican opposition mostly ... | You're absolutely right The president has not announced a successor to Hillary Clinton who has, said that she will. not, serve in a second Obama term; But last week or was it - I guess it was just last week it was last week when President Obama. was asked at his news, conference about, the Republican opposition mostly ... | you're absolutely right. the president has not announced a successor to hillary clinton, who has said that she will not serve in a second obama term. but last week, or was it - i guess it was just last week, it was last week, when president obama was asked at his news conference about the republican opposition mostly l... |
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