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And who else is out there talking about this? | and who. else is out there talking about | And who else is out there talking about | and who else is out there talking about this? |
Well, Adbusters magazine is probably the best known. For some time they've been pushing the day after Thanksgiving as buy-nothing day. In Europe there's a similar effort. The Dalio Family Foundation is urging people in full-page newspaper ads to give charitable donations as gifts and - to the recipient's favorite chari... | well adbusters. magazine is probably the best known for some time they've been pushing the day after thanksgiving as, buy-nothing day in europe there's a similar effort the dalio family, foundation is, urging people in full-page newspaper ads. to give charitable donations as gifts and, - to the recipient's favorite cha... | Well Adbusters magazine is probably the, best known For some time they've been pushing the day after Thanksgiving as buy-nothing day In Europe there's a similar effort The Dalio Family Foundation is urging people in full-page newspaper ads to give charitable donations as gifts and - to, the recipient's favorite charity... | well, adbusters magazine is probably the best known. for some time they've been pushing the day after thanksgiving as buy-nothing day. in europe there's a similar effort. the dalio family foundation is urging people in full-page newspaper ads to give charitable donations as gifts and - to the recipient's favorite chari... |
And one last thing item might be pertinent here. Food banks nationwide are facing shortages and rising demand, so maybe there's an alternative giving idea in there somewhere. | and one last thing; item might be pertinent here. food banks nationwide. are facing. shortages and, rising demand so maybe there's an alternative giving idea in there | And one, last thing item might be pertinent here Food banks nationwide are facing, shortages and rising demand so maybe there's an alternative giving idea in there | and one last thing item might be pertinent here. food banks nationwide are facing shortages and rising demand, so maybe there's an alternative giving idea in there somewhere. |
Well, thank you, Steve. | well thank you | Well thank you | well, thank you, steve. |
Steve Tripoli of public radio's daily business show, MARKETPLACE, not out shopping today. And MARKETPLACE is produced by American Public Media. | steve tripoli of public, radio's daily business show marketplace not out shopping today and marketplace is produced by american public | Steve Tripoli of public, radio's daily business show MARKETPLACE not out, shopping today And MARKETPLACE is produced by, American Public | steve tripoli of public radio's daily business show, marketplace, not out shopping today. and marketplace is produced by american public media. |
In Zimbabwe, all eyes are on the country's Constitutional Court. It's hearing a case challenging that country's presidential election. The case is raising fears of more political violence, but also hope of a historic decision. NPR's Eyder Peralta reports from the capital, Harare. | in zimbabwe all eyes are on the country's constitutional court it's hearing a case challenging that country's presidential election the case is, raising fears of more political violence but also hope of. a historic decision npr's eyder; peralta reports from the capital; | In, Zimbabwe all eyes are on the country's Constitutional Court It's hearing a case challenging that country's presidential. election The case is raising fears of more political violence but, also hope of a historic decision NPR's Eyder Peralta reports from the, capital | in zimbabwe, all eyes are on the country's constitutional court. it's hearing a case challenging that country's presidential election. the case is raising fears of more political violence, but also hope of a historic decision. npr's eyder peralta reports from the capital, harare. |
A day before the big court arguments, Zimbabwe's war veterans called a press conference. Soon after they entered the room, they begin to sing songs of liberation. | a day before the. big court arguments zimbabwe's war veterans, called a press conference soon after they entered the room, they begin to sing songs of | A day before the big court; arguments Zimbabwe's war veterans, called a press conference Soon. after they entered the room. they begin to sing songs of | a day before the big court arguments, zimbabwe's war veterans called a press conference. soon after they entered the room, they begin to sing songs of liberation. |
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(Singing in foreign language). | (singing in foreign | (Singing in foreign | (singing in foreign language). |
This group, many of whom took arms to end minority white rule in Zimbabwe, was instrumental in ousting longtime President Robert Mugabe. And they had gathered here to protect their gains, to send a message that Emmerson Mnangagwa, the man declared president by the Electoral Commission, would not be cowed by a Constitut... | this group many of whom took arms. to end minority white rule in zimbabwe was instrumental in ousting longtime president robert mugabe and, they; had gathered here, to protect their. gains to send a message. that emmerson mnangagwa; the man declared president by the electoral commission would not be cowed by a constitu... | This group. many of, whom took arms to end, minority white rule in Zimbabwe was instrumental in ousting longtime President, Robert, Mugabe And they had gathered here to protect their gains to send. a message that Emmerson Mnangagwa the man declared president. by the Electoral Commission would not be cowed by a Constitu... | this group, many of whom took arms to end minority white rule in zimbabwe, was instrumental in ousting longtime president robert mugabe. and they had gathered here to protect their gains, to send a message that emmerson mnangagwa, the man declared president by the electoral commission, would not be cowed by a constitut... |
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The president-elect won by 50.8 percent, full stop. | the president-elect won, by 50.8 percent full | The president-elect won by 50.8 percent full. | the president-elect won by 50.8 percent, full stop. |
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The election, held July 30, has been criticized by American and European observers. But Victor Matemadanda, the leader of the veterans group, defended the process by attacking the U.S. | the. election held july 30, has been criticized, by american and european observers but victor matemadanda the. leader of the veterans group defended the process by attacking the; | The election held July 30, has been criticized, by American. and European, observers But Victor Matemadanda the leader of the veterans group defended the process by attacking the | the election, held july 30, has been criticized by american and european observers. but victor matemadanda, the leader of the veterans group, defended the process by attacking the u.s. |
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They forced us to believe in the Abraham Lincoln definition of democracy - rule of the people, for the people, by the people as though people agree on one thing at the same time. | they forced us, to believe in the abraham lincoln definition of democracy - rule of the people for the people by the people as though people agree on, one thing at the, same, | They forced us to believe in the Abraham Lincoln definition of democracy - rule of the people for. the people, by the people as though people agree on one thing at. the same | they forced us to believe in the abraham lincoln definition of democracy - rule of the people, for the people, by the people as though people agree on one thing at the same time. |
Here in Zimbabwe, it is majority rule, he says, with just an acknowledgment of the minority. | here in zimbabwe it is majority rule he. says with just an acknowledgment of the | Here in Zimbabwe, it is majority rule, he says with just an acknowledgment of the | here in zimbabwe, it is majority rule, he says, with just an acknowledgment of the minority. |
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What do we have here is African democracy. We define our own democracy. | what do. we have here is african democracy we define our own | What do we have here is African democracy We define our own | what do we have here is african democracy. we define our own democracy. |
And whether they like it or not, this court case has potential to shape Zimbabwe's democracy in fundamental ways. Constitutional lawyer Eric Matinenga. | and whether they like it or not this court case has potential to, shape zimbabwe's democracy in fundamental ways, constitutional lawyer eric | And whether they like it or not this court case has. potential to shape Zimbabwe's democracy in fundamental ways Constitutional lawyer Eric | and whether they like it or not, this court case has potential to shape zimbabwe's democracy in fundamental ways. constitutional lawyer eric matinenga. |
In terms of developing a jurisprudence of the separation of powers, I think this is the time. | in terms of developing a jurisprudence of the separation of powers i think this is the, | In terms of developing a jurisprudence of the separation of powers I think this. is the | in terms of developing a jurisprudence of the separation of powers, i think this is the time. |
One of the big questions facing Zimbabwe is, can the Constitutional Court look at the case before it and actually rule against a sitting president, actually rule against those powerful veterans? Kenya's Supreme Court did exactly that last year, and scholars called it an African Marbury v. Madison moment, the judiciary ... | one of. the big questions facing zimbabwe is can the constitutional, court look at the case before it and actually rule against a sitting president actually rule against those powerful. veterans? kenya's, supreme court did exactly, that last year and scholars called it an. african marbury v madison moment the judiciary... | One of the big questions facing Zimbabwe is can the Constitutional Court look at the case before it and actually rule against a, sitting president actually rule against. those, powerful veterans? Kenya's Supreme Court did exactly that last year and scholars called it an. African Marbury v Madison moment the judiciary e... | one of the big questions facing zimbabwe is, can the constitutional court look at the case before it and actually rule against a sitting president, actually rule against those powerful veterans? kenya's supreme court did exactly that last year, and scholars called it an african marbury v. madison moment, the judiciary ... |
So the issue of the security of the U.S. nuclear arsenal is a big reason here. Are there other reasons? | so the issue of the security of. the u.s nuclear arsenal is a big reason here are. there, other | So, the. issue of the security of the U.S, nuclear arsenal is a big reason here Are there other | so the issue of the security of the u.s. nuclear arsenal is a big reason here. are there other reasons? |
Yes, there are. You know, Gates has been critical of the Air Force for not building enough unmanned drone aircraft. They're considered crucial to the fight in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now these drones take pictures and also video. They can also have the ability to drop bombs. And Gates said that getting the Air Force crea... | yes. there are you know gates has. been critical of. the air force for not building enough unmanned drone aircraft they're. considered; crucial to the fight, in iraq and afghanistan now these drones take pictures and also, video they can also have the ability to drop bombs and gates said that getting the air force crea... | Yes; there are You know. Gates has been critical of the Air Force for not building enough unmanned drone aircraft They're considered crucial to the fight in Iraq and Afghanistan Now these drones take pictures and also. video. They can also, have the ability to drop bombs And Gates said that, getting the, Air. Force cre... | yes, there are. you know, gates has been critical of the air force for not building enough unmanned drone aircraft. they're considered crucial to the fight in iraq and afghanistan. now these drones take pictures and also video. they can also have the ability to drop bombs. and gates said that getting the air force crea... |
Now, Michael Wynne is the second civilian head of one of the services to be removed by Secretary Gates in the past year. What does all this say about Gates' management style at the Pentagon? | now michael wynne is the second civilian head of one of, the services to be removed by secretary gates in the past year what does all this say about gates' management style at the | Now Michael Wynne is the second civilian head of one of, the services to be removed by Secretary Gates in the past year What does all, this say about. Gates' management style at the | now, michael wynne is the second civilian head of one of the services to be removed by secretary gates in the past year. what does all this say about gates' management style at the pentagon? |
Well, from what we see, Gates is demanding accountability. You know, a lot of people in Washington talk about that, but from what we've seen, Gates really means it. Last year, he fired the Army secretary, Francis Harvey, for not taking seriously enough the problems uncovered at Walter Reed Army Hospital. And he basical... | well from what we see gates is demanding accountability you know a lot of people in washington talk about that but from what we've seen gates really means it last year he fired the army secretary francis harvey for not, taking seriously enough the problems uncovered at, walter reed, army. hospital and he basically told... | Well from what we, see Gates is demanding accountability You know a. lot of people in Washington talk about that but from what we've seen, Gates really means it Last year he fired the Army secretary Francis Harvey for not taking seriously enough the problems uncovered at Walter Reed Army Hospital And he basically told ... | well, from what we see, gates is demanding accountability. you know, a lot of people in washington talk about that, but from what we've seen, gates really means it. last year, he fired the army secretary, francis harvey, for not taking seriously enough the problems uncovered at walter reed army hospital. and he basical... |
Okay, thanks Tom. | okay thanks | Okay thanks | okay, thanks tom. |
You're welcome. | you're | You're | you're welcome. |
That's NPR Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman. | that's npr pentagon correspondent tom | That's NPR Pentagon correspondent Tom | that's npr pentagon correspondent tom bowman. |
This is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Robert Siegel. | this, is all things considered from npr news i'm. robert | This is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News I'm Robert | this is all things considered from npr news. i'm robert siegel. |
One of the biggest hits on Broadway this winter is a play that went there straight from Chicago. It's called "August: Osage County." It's a production of the Steppenwolf Theatre Company. | one of the biggest hits on broadway this winter, is a play. that went there straight from chicago it's called "august: osage county" it's a, production, of. the steppenwolf theatre | One of the biggest hits on Broadway this winter is a play that went there; straight from Chicago It's called "August: Osage County" It's a production, of the Steppenwolf Theatre | one of the biggest hits on broadway this winter is a play that went there straight from chicago. it's called "august: osage county." it's a production of the steppenwolf theatre company. |
(Soundbite of play "August: Osage County") | (soundbite of play "august: osage, | (Soundbite of play, "August: Osage | (soundbite of play "august: osage county") |
(As Violet Weston) There's an Indian in my house. | (as violet weston) there's. an indian in. my | (As Violet Weston) There's an Indian in my | (as violet weston) there's an indian in my house. |
(As Barbara Fordham) Native Americans now, mom. | (as barbara fordham) native americans, now | (As Barbara Fordham) Native Americans now | (as barbara fordham) native americans now, mom. |
(As Violet Weston) Who calls that? Who makes that decision? | (as violet weston) who calls that? who makes. that | (As Violet Weston) Who. calls that? Who makes that | (as violet weston) who calls that? who makes that decision? |
(As Barbara Fordham) It's what they like to be called. | (as barbara fordham) it's what they like to be | (As Barbara Fordham) It's what they like to. be | (as barbara fordham) it's what they like to be called. |
(As Violet Weston) They aren't more native than me. | (as violet weston) they aren't more native than. | (As Violet, Weston) They aren't, more native, than | (as violet weston) they aren't more native than me. |
(As Barbara Fordham) In fact, they are. | (as barbara fordham) in fact, they | (As Barbara, Fordham) In fact they | (as barbara fordham) in fact, they are. |
(As Violet Weston) What's wrong with the Indian? | (as violet weston) what's. wrong with the. | (As Violet Weston) What's wrong with the | (as violet weston) what's wrong with the indian? |
(As Barbara Fordham) Why is it so hard to just call people what they want? | (as, barbara fordham) why is it so hard to just call people what they | (As Barbara Fordham) Why is it so hard to just call people what they. | (as barbara fordham) why is it so hard to just call people what they want? |
(As Violet Weston) Let's just call the dinosaurs Native Americans while we're at it? | (as violet weston) let's just call the dinosaurs. native americans while we're at. | (As Violet Weston) Let's. just call. the. dinosaurs Native Americans while, we're, at | (as violet weston) let's just call the dinosaurs native americans while we're at it? |
That's actor Deanna Dunagan who plays Violet Weston arguing with Amy Morton playing her eldest daughter, Barbara Fordham. "August: Osage County" is set near contemporary Tulsa. The extended Weston clan might just as well have been cursed like the House of Atreus of Ancient Greece. | that's actor deanna dunagan who plays violet weston, arguing with amy morton playing her eldest daughter; barbara fordham "august: osage county" is set near contemporary tulsa the extended weston clan might just as well have been. cursed like the house of atreus of ancient | That's actor Deanna Dunagan who plays Violet Weston arguing with Amy Morton playing her. eldest daughter Barbara Fordham "August: Osage County" is set near contemporary. Tulsa The extended. Weston clan might just as well have been cursed like the House of Atreus of Ancient | that's actor deanna dunagan who plays violet weston arguing with amy morton playing her eldest daughter, barbara fordham. "august: osage county" is set near contemporary tulsa. the extended weston clan might just as well have been cursed like the house of atreus of ancient greece. |
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Unidentified Woman #1: You're a drug addict. That is the truth. | unidentified woman #1: you're a drug addict that is the | Unidentified Woman #1: You're a drug addict That is the, | unidentified woman #1: you're a drug addict. that is the truth. |
(As Violet Weston) I'm a drug addict. These are my best friends, and they never let me down. You try to get them away from me and I'll eat you alive. | (as violet weston) i'm a drug addict these are my best friends and they never let me down you try to get them away from me and. i'll eat you | (As Violet Weston) I'm a drug addict These are my best friends and they never let me down You try to get. them, away from me, and I'll eat you | (as violet weston) i'm a drug addict. these are my best friends, and they never let me down. you try to get them away from me and i'll eat you alive. |
You name a problem and they've got it - substance abuse, adultery, abandonment, and worse, not to mention that old standby, boredom in a small town. Here's what's unusual about the Westons in playwright Tracy Letts's work - at least half of the time, we're laughing at them. | you, name a problem and they've got it - substance abuse adultery abandonment and worse not to mention that old standby boredom in a, small town here's what's, unusual about the westons in playwright tracy letts's work - at least half, of the time we're laughing at | You name a problem and they've got it - substance abuse adultery abandonment and worse not to mention that old standby boredom in a small town Here's what's unusual about the Westons in playwright Tracy Letts's work - at least half of the. time we're, laughing at | you name a problem and they've got it - substance abuse, adultery, abandonment, and worse, not to mention that old standby, boredom in a small town. here's what's unusual about the westons in playwright tracy letts's work - at least half of the time, we're laughing at them. |
(As Barbara Fordham) I do not believe this. You're sitting here, watching the baseball game, drinking beers. Don't you have any sense of what's going on around you? This situation is (unintelligible). | (as. barbara fordham) i do not believe this you're sitting here watching the baseball game drinking beers don't you have any sense of what's going on around you? this situation is | (As Barbara Fordham) I do, not believe this You're sitting here watching the baseball game. drinking beers Don't, you have any sense of. what's going on around you? This situation is | (as barbara fordham) i do not believe this. you're sitting here, watching the baseball game, drinking beers. don't you have any sense of what's going on around you? this situation is (unintelligible). |
Ms, DENNIS LETTS (Actor): (As Beverly Weston) I'm supposed to sit here like a statue? You're drinking whisky. | ms dennis letts (actor): (as beverly weston) i'm, supposed to sit here like a statue? you're drinking | Ms DENNIS LETTS (Actor): (As, Beverly, Weston) I'm supposed to sit here like, a. statue? You're drinking | ms, dennis letts (actor): (as beverly weston) i'm supposed to sit here like a statue? you're drinking whisky. |
(As Barbara Fordham) I'm having a cocktail. | (as barbara fordham) i'm having a | (As Barbara Fordham) I'm having a | (as barbara fordham) i'm having a cocktail. |
Tracy Letts, the playwright, and his father, Dennis Letts, who plays the patriarch of the Weston family join us now from our bureau in New York. Welcome to the program, both of you. | tracy letts the playwright and his father dennis letts who plays the patriarch of the weston family join us now from our bureau in new york welcome to the program both of | Tracy Letts the. playwright. and his father Dennis Letts who plays the patriarch of the Weston family join us now from our bureau in New York, Welcome to the program. both of | tracy letts, the playwright, and his father, dennis letts, who plays the patriarch of the weston family join us now from our bureau in new york. welcome to the program, both of you. |
Mr. TRACY LETTS (Playwright, "August: Osage County") Thank you. | mr tracy letts (playwright "august: osage. county") thank | Mr TRACY, LETTS (Playwright "August: Osage County") Thank | mr. tracy letts (playwright, "august: osage county") thank you. |
Thank you. | thank, | Thank, | thank you. |
And first, Tracy, please tell me that you have some connection to Oklahoma and you didn't actually go up in Cambridge, Massachusetts and just researched this very well. | and first. tracy please. tell me that you have. some. connection to oklahoma and you didn't actually go up in cambridge massachusetts and just researched this very | And first Tracy please tell me that you have some. connection to Oklahoma and. you didn't actually go up, in Cambridge Massachusetts and just. researched this very | and first, tracy, please tell me that you have some connection to oklahoma and you didn't actually go up in cambridge, massachusetts and just researched this very well. |
Mr. T. LETTS: No. In fact, I'm born in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I was raised in a small town called Durant, Oklahoma. My - both my parents were born in Oklahoma. My grandparents were Okies. No, no, there's a long Oklahoma tradition in my family. | mr t letts: no in. fact i'm born in tulsa, oklahoma i was raised in a small town called durant oklahoma my - both my parents, were born in oklahoma my grandparents were. okies no no there's a long, oklahoma tradition in my | Mr T LETTS: No In fact I'm born in Tulsa Oklahoma I, was raised in a small town called, Durant. Oklahoma My, - both my parents were born in Oklahoma My grandparents were Okies No no there's a long Oklahoma tradition in my | mr. t. letts: no. in fact, i'm born in tulsa, oklahoma. i was raised in a small town called durant, oklahoma. my - both my parents were born in oklahoma. my grandparents were okies. no, no, there's a long oklahoma tradition in my family. |
And Dennis Letts, did you preside over a great, sprawling, multigenerational dysfunctional family in Oklahoma? | and dennis letts did you preside over a great sprawling multigenerational dysfunctional, family in | And Dennis Letts did you preside. over a great sprawling multigenerational, dysfunctional family. in | and dennis letts, did you preside over a great, sprawling, multigenerational dysfunctional family in oklahoma? |
Mr. D. LETTS: I presided over a small dysfunctional family in Oklahoma. | mr d letts: i presided over a small dysfunctional family in | Mr. D LETTS: I presided over, a small dysfunctional family, in | mr. d. letts: i presided over a small dysfunctional family in oklahoma. |
Of which Tracy is the product? | of which tracy is the | Of which Tracy is the | of which tracy is the product? |
Mr. D. LETTS: Tracy is part of that. | mr d letts: tracy is part, of | Mr D LETTS: Tracy is part of | mr. d. letts: tracy is part of that. |
You know, what I found interesting about "August: Osage County" is this. I can imagine seeing the script and some director just looking at the words and saying, this is about sorrow and disappointment and the terrible cruelties that people in a family might commit against one another and play it like Eugene O'Neill's "... | you know what i found interesting about "august: osage county" is this i. can imagine seeing. the script and some director just looking at the words, and saying this is about sorrow and disappointment and the terrible cruelties that people, in a family. might commit against one another and play it like eugene o'neill's... | You know what I found interesting about "August: Osage County" is this I can imagine seeing the script and some director just looking at; the words, and saying this is about. sorrow and disappointment and the, terrible cruelties that people in a family might, commit against one another and play it like Eugene O'Neill's... | you know, what i found interesting about "august: osage county" is this. i can imagine seeing the script and some director just looking at the words and saying, this is about sorrow and disappointment and the terrible cruelties that people in a family might commit against one another and play it like eugene o'neill's "... |
Mr. T. LETTS: Well, there is a lot of comedy in the play. But I think the comedy, for the most part, comes from a very real place, comes from, it comes from the known. I think people laugh at what they recognize. And I think a lot of it - as theatrical as it may be, a lot of it is recognizable human behavior, family be... | mr t letts: well there is a lot of comedy in the play but i think the, comedy for. the most part comes from a very real place comes, from it comes from the known i think people laugh at what they recognize and i think a lot of it - as theatrical as it may be a lot of it is recognizable human behavior family | Mr T LETTS: Well there is a lot of comedy in the play But I think the, comedy for the most part. comes from a very real place comes from it comes from the known I think people laugh at what they recognize And I think a lot of it - as theatrical as it may be a lot of it is recognizable human behavior family | mr. t. letts: well, there is a lot of comedy in the play. but i think the comedy, for the most part, comes from a very real place, comes from, it comes from the known. i think people laugh at what they recognize. and i think a lot of it - as theatrical as it may be, a lot of it is recognizable human behavior, family be... |
I'd like you to talk about your own relationship. And Dennis Letts, what it's like playing in a play written by your own son? | i'd like you to talk about your own relationship, and dennis letts what it's like playing in a play. written, by your own | I'd like you to, talk about your own relationship, And Dennis Letts what it's like playing in a play written by your, own | i'd like you to talk about your own relationship. and dennis letts, what it's like playing in a play written by your own son? |
But Matinenga says this court is also walking a tightrope because the decision will be about much more than law. It will also be judged in the court of public opinion. And in the streets, the analysis is much simpler. | but matinenga says, this court; is also walking a tightrope because the decision will be about much more than law, it will also be judged in the court. of public opinion and in the. streets the analysis is much | But Matinenga says this court is also walking a tightrope because the decision will. be about, much more than. law It will also be judged in the court of public opinion And in the streets, the analysis is. much | but matinenga says this court is also walking a tightrope because the decision will be about much more than law. it will also be judged in the court of public opinion. and in the streets, the analysis is much simpler. |
And I think that I was not alone in carrying that narrative for many decades. It's only been as a journalist and as an adult that I have opened my eyes to the consequences of that miracle and that it was a disaster for another people who were living on that land. | and i think that i was not. alone in carrying that narrative for many decades it's only been as a journalist and as an adult that. i have opened my eyes to the consequences of that miracle and that it was a disaster for another, people who were, living on that | And I think that I was not alone in, carrying that narrative for many decades It's only, been as, a journalist and. as an adult, that I have opened my eyes to the consequences of that miracle, and that, it was a disaster for another people who were living on that | and i think that i was not alone in carrying that narrative for many decades. it's only been as a journalist and as an adult that i have opened my eyes to the consequences of that miracle and that it was a disaster for another people who were living on that land. |
You suggested that it goes beyond a professional responsibility to address this squarely. For those who aren't journalists, why do you feel that it is important to confront both narratives at once? | you suggested that it, goes beyond a. professional responsibility to. address this squarely for those who aren't journalists why do you feel that it is important to confront both narratives at | You suggested that it goes, beyond a professional responsibility to address this squarely For those who. aren't journalists why do you feel that it is important to confront, both narratives at | you suggested that it goes beyond a professional responsibility to address this squarely. for those who aren't journalists, why do you feel that it is important to confront both narratives at once? |
Well, I think, morally, as a Jew, I should be compassionate to someone else's suffering. I mean, the Palestinians have a lot of agency here. I want to make that very clear. But it is caused, in part, by Israel's actions. That is very painful. You know, an occupation doesn't just hurt the occupied, it hurts the occupier... | well i think morally as a jew i should be compassionate to someone else's suffering. i mean the palestinians have a lot, of agency here i want to make that very clear but it is caused in part by israel's actions that is, very painful. you know an occupation doesn't just hurt the occupied it hurts, the occupiers and, i ... | Well I think, morally as a Jew I should be compassionate to someone else's, suffering I mean the Palestinians. have a lot of agency here I want to make that very clear But it is caused in part by Israel's actions That; is very painful You, know an occupation. doesn't just hurt. the, occupied it, hurts the occupiers And... | well, i think, morally, as a jew, i should be compassionate to someone else's suffering. i mean, the palestinians have a lot of agency here. i want to make that very clear. but it is caused, in part, by israel's actions. that is very painful. you know, an occupation doesn't just hurt the occupied, it hurts the occupier... |
But still, you're asking an 18 year old to have an inordinate amount of power over someone else's life, and that harms you as a person. And I think that there is a moral stain to this. You know, we have this phrase in Judaism that we should be a light unto the nations. And I think, in so many, ways Israel is. But I als... | but still; you're asking an 18 year old to have an; inordinate amount of power over someone else's life and that, harms you as a person and i think that there is a moral, stain to this you know we have this phrase in judaism. that we should be a light unto the nations and i think in so many ways israel is but i also kn... | But still. you're asking an 18 year old to have an inordinate. amount of, power over someone else's life and that harms you as a person And I, think that, there is a, moral; stain, to this You know we have this phrase in. Judaism that we should be a light unto the nations And I think in so many ways Israel is But I als... | but still, you're asking an 18 year old to have an inordinate amount of power over someone else's life, and that harms you as a person. and i think that there is a moral stain to this. you know, we have this phrase in judaism that we should be a light unto the nations. and i think, in so many, ways israel is. but i als... |
And it's hard because I feel very proud and grateful that Israel won the Six-Day War and still is alive now in such a powerful way. And yet, I also recognize the pain that has caused to another people and the degree to which, even as an American Jew, I feel responsible for that. | and it's hard because i feel very proud and grateful that israel won the six-day war and still is alive now. in such a, powerful way and. yet i also recognize the pain that has caused, to another people and the, degree to which even as an american jew i feel responsible for, | And, it's hard because I feel very proud and grateful that. Israel won the Six-Day; War. and still is alive now in such a powerful way And yet I also recognize the pain, that has caused to another people. and the degree to which even as an American Jew I feel responsible, for | and it's hard because i feel very proud and grateful that israel won the six-day war and still is alive now in such a powerful way. and yet, i also recognize the pain that has caused to another people and the degree to which, even as an american jew, i feel responsible for that. |
You know, few of us deal well with dualities, especially when it comes to military victories. So as this week unfolds, and as people hear more about this story, who, perhaps, do not engage with it as regularly as you do, what would you like them to be thinking about? | you know few of us deal well with dualities especially when it comes to military victories so as this week unfolds and as people hear more about this story. who perhaps do not engage with it as regularly as you do what would you like them to be thinking, | You know few of us deal well with. dualities especially when it. comes to military victories So, as this week unfolds and as people hear more about this story who perhaps do not engage with it. as regularly as you, do what would you like. them; to be thinking | you know, few of us deal well with dualities, especially when it comes to military victories. so as this week unfolds, and as people hear more about this story, who, perhaps, do not engage with it as regularly as you do, what would you like them to be thinking about? |
Well, I think we have to learn how to acknowledge the fact that there are two different people that have an historical, religious and emotional attachment to the same place. So I think it's really up to us, as individuals, to learn more about the other people and feel compassion to them and try to figure out ways in wh... | well i think we have to learn how to acknowledge the fact that there are two different people that have an historical religious and emotional attachment to the same place so i think it's really up to us as individuals to learn more; about the, other people and feel compassion to them and try to figure out ways in which... | Well I. think we have. to learn. how to acknowledge the fact that there, are two different people that have an historical religious. and emotional attachment to the same place So I think it's really, up to us as; individuals, to learn more about the other; people and feel compassion to them and try to figure out ways i... | well, i think we have to learn how to acknowledge the fact that there are two different people that have an historical, religious and emotional attachment to the same place. so i think it's really up to us, as individuals, to learn more about the other people and feel compassion to them and try to figure out ways in wh... |
That's Jane Eisner. She's editor-in-chief of The Forward. It's a national Jewish news organization. The piece we've been talking about is titled "Inner Conflict: The Six-Day War's 50th Anniversary - Does It Merit Celebration Or Despair?" It can be found in print and online. We reached Jane Eisner in New York. | that's. jane eisner she's editor-in-chief; of the forward it's a national jewish news, organization the piece we've been talking about is titled "inner conflict: the six-day war's 50th anniversary - does it merit celebration or, despair?" it can; be found in, print. and online we reached jane eisner in new | That's. Jane Eisner She's editor-in-chief of The Forward It's a. national Jewish. news organization The piece we've been talking about is titled "Inner Conflict: The Six-Day War's 50th Anniversary - Does It Merit Celebration Or Despair?" It can be found in print and online We reached. Jane Eisner in New | that's jane eisner. she's editor-in-chief of the forward. it's a national jewish news organization. the piece we've been talking about is titled "inner conflict: the six-day war's 50th anniversary - does it merit celebration or despair?" it can be found in print and online. we reached jane eisner in new york. |
Jane Eisner, thank you so much for speaking with us. | jane eisner thank you so much for speaking with | Jane Eisner thank you so much for speaking; with | jane eisner, thank you so much for speaking with us. |
Thank you, Michel. It was a pleasure. | thank you. michel; it; was a, | Thank. you Michel. It was a | thank you, michel. it was a pleasure. |
This is WEEKEND EDITION. I'm Scott Simon. | this is. weekend edition i'm scott | This is WEEKEND EDITION I'm Scott | this is weekend edition. i'm scott simon. |
The White House missed the deadline last night and Democrats went on the attack. It was the latest back and forth in the growing scandal over eight fired U.S. attorneys. | the white house missed the deadline last night and democrats went on the attack it was the, latest back and forth in the growing scandal over eight; fired u.s | The. White House missed the deadline last night and Democrats went on the attack It was, the latest. back and forth in the growing scandal; over eight fired. U.S | the white house missed the deadline last night and democrats went on the attack. it was the latest back and forth in the growing scandal over eight fired u.s. attorneys. |
NPR's Ari Shapiro has been covering this story all week and joins us now in our studios. Ari, thanks for being with us. | npr's ari shapiro has been covering this story all week and joins us now in our studios ari thanks for being with | NPR's Ari Shapiro has been covering this story all, week and joins us now in our studios Ari, thanks for being with | npr's ari shapiro has been covering this story all week and joins us now in our studios. ari, thanks for being with us. |
It's my pleasure. | it's my | It's my | it's my pleasure. |
And this deadline was what? | and. this deadline was | And this. deadline. was. | and this deadline was what? |
It was when the White House was going to let Congress know whether three key officials were going to testify voluntarily. Karl Rove was one of them. He's the White House political guru. Harriet Miers used to be the White House counsel and her deputy, William Kelley. Those were the three people. | it was when the white house was going to let congress know whether three. key officials were going to testify. voluntarily karl rove was one of them he's the white house; political guru harriet miers used to be, the white, house counsel and her deputy william kelley those were the three | It was when the White House was going to let, Congress know whether. three key, officials. were going to testify. voluntarily Karl Rove was one, of them He's the White House political guru Harriet Miers used, to be the White House counsel and her. deputy William Kelley Those were the three | it was when the white house was going to let congress know whether three key officials were going to testify voluntarily. karl rove was one of them. he's the white house political guru. harriet miers used to be the white house counsel and her deputy, william kelley. those were the three people. |
The White House said, given the importance of the issues under consideration and the presidential principles involved, we need more time to resolve them. They told Congress they hope to have an answer to them by Tuesday. | the white house, said given the importance, of the issues under consideration and the presidential principles involved we need more time to resolve them they told congress. they hope to have. an answer, to them by | The White House said given the importance of the issues under; consideration and the presidential principles involved we need more time. to resolve them, They told Congress they hope to. have an answer to them by | the white house said, given the importance of the issues under consideration and the presidential principles involved, we need more time to resolve them. they told congress they hope to have an answer to them by tuesday. |
And let me guess, Congress said, oh, that makes a lot of sense. Sure, by all means. | and let me guess congress said oh that makes. a lot of sense sure by all | And let me guess Congress, said oh that makes a lot of sense Sure by all | and let me guess, congress said, oh, that makes a lot of sense. sure, by all means. |
As you can imagine, they were not so happy about it. The House Judiciary Committee chairman, John Conyers, said he was very disappointed and he threw out the S word - subpoenas. He said next week he's going to start talking about subpoenaing these folks. On the Senate side, subpoenas are already on the schedule for nex... | as, you can imagine they were not so happy about it the house judiciary committee chairman john conyers said he was very disappointed and he threw out the, s word - subpoenas he said. next week he's going to start talking about subpoenaing these folks on the senate side subpoenas are already on the, schedule for next, ... | As you can imagine they were not so. happy about it The House Judiciary Committee chairman John Conyers said he was very disappointed, and. he threw out the S word - subpoenas. He said next week he's going to start talking about subpoenaing these folks On the Senate side subpoenas, are already on the schedule. for next... | as you can imagine, they were not so happy about it. the house judiciary committee chairman, john conyers, said he was very disappointed and he threw out the s word - subpoenas. he said next week he's going to start talking about subpoenaing these folks. on the senate side, subpoenas are already on the schedule for nex... |
Now all of this is happening at a time when more people, including at least one Republican, are calling for Attorney General Gonzales to resign. | now all of this is happening; at a time when more people including. at least one republican; are calling for attorney general gonzales to | Now. all of this is happening at a time when more people including at least one Republican are calling for. Attorney General Gonzales to | now all of this is happening at a time when more people, including at least one republican, are calling for attorney general gonzales to resign. |
Yeah, the chorus has been growing all week and - at a White House briefing yesterday, spokesman Tony Snow was asked about it. Here's the exchange with the reporter. | yeah the chorus has been growing all week. and - at a white; house briefing yesterday spokesman tony snow was asked about it here's the exchange with the | Yeah. the chorus, has been growing all week and - at a White, House briefing, yesterday spokesman Tony Snow was asked, about it Here's. the, exchange with the | yeah, the chorus has been growing all week and - at a white house briefing yesterday, spokesman tony snow was asked about it. here's the exchange with the reporter. |
(Soundbite of White House briefing) | (soundbite of white house | (Soundbite of White House | (soundbite of white house briefing) |
CHERYL(ph) (Reporter): Is it the president's intention then to keep Attorney General Gonzales in his current position through the remainder of the Bush administration? | cheryl(ph) (reporter): is it the president's intention then to keep attorney general gonzales in his current position through the remainder of the, bush | CHERYL(ph) (Reporter): Is it the, president's intention then to keep Attorney General Gonzales in his current position through, the remainder of the Bush | cheryl(ph) (reporter): is it the president's intention then to keep attorney general gonzales in his current position through the remainder of the bush administration? |
You're asking me what's going to happen for the next two years, Cheryl, I'm not going to answer. | you're asking me what's going; to happen. for the next two years cheryl i'm not going to, | You're asking me what's going to happen for the; next two years Cheryl I'm not going to | you're asking me what's going to happen for the next two years, cheryl, i'm not going to answer. |
For the next two weeks? | for the. next two, | For the next two | for the next two weeks? |
He intends to keep him in the position. | he. intends to keep him. in the | He intends to keep him in the | he intends to keep him in the position. |
I've been talking to a lot of people this week who come down from different places on this issue and among those who think Gonzales ought to resign - there're sort of two competing theories. One is keep the punching bag in the gym. If you're going to get rid of him, get rid of him after he takes all the heat for this. ... | i've been, talking to a lot of. people this week who come down from different places on this issue and among those who think gonzales, ought, to resign - there're sort of, two competing theories one is keep the punching bag in the gym if you're going to get rid of him get rid of him after he takes all the heat for this... | I've been talking to a lot of people this week who come. down from different places on this, issue and among those, who think. Gonzales ought to resign - there're sort of two competing theories One is keep, the punching, bag in the gym If you're going to get rid of him get rid of him after he takes all, the heat for th... | i've been talking to a lot of people this week who come down from different places on this issue and among those who think gonzales ought to resign - there're sort of two competing theories. one is keep the punching bag in the gym. if you're going to get rid of him, get rid of him after he takes all the heat for this. ... |
Now you discovered a story yesterday that the only person to resign so far, Kyle Sampson, did not entirely go away. | now you discovered a story yesterday that the only person to resign so far, kyle sampson did not entirely go | Now you discovered a story yesterday, that the only person to resign so far, Kyle Sampson did not entirely, go | now you discovered a story yesterday that the only person to resign so far, kyle sampson, did not entirely go away. |
Not initially, no. He was the chief of staff to the attorney general and on Monday, he resigned as chief of staff as the Justice Department sent a stack of his e-mails to Capitol Hill. Those e-mails contradicted sworn testimony that the attorney general had delivered and created a lot of the problems we saw this week. | not initially no he was the chief of staff to the attorney general and on monday he resigned as chief of staff as the justice, department sent. a stack of his e-mails to capitol hill those e-mails contradicted. sworn testimony that the attorney general; had delivered and created a, lot of the problems we saw this | Not initially no He was the chief of staff to the attorney, general and on Monday he resigned as chief of staff as the Justice Department, sent a stack of his, e-mails to Capitol Hill Those e-mails contradicted sworn testimony that the attorney general had delivered and created a lot of the, problems we. saw, this | not initially, no. he was the chief of staff to the attorney general and on monday, he resigned as chief of staff as the justice department sent a stack of his e-mails to capitol hill. those e-mails contradicted sworn testimony that the attorney general had delivered and created a lot of the problems we saw this week. |
Well it turns out that on Monday, when Sampson resigned, the Justice Department started to set up an office for him to work as an attorney in a legislative section of the environment division at the Justice Department. So there was this idea that he could stick around and keep working at the Justice Department as an at... | well it turns out that on monday when sampson resigned the justice department started to set up an office for him to work as an; attorney in a legislative section of. the environment. division at the justice department so there was this idea that he could, stick around and keep working at the justice department as, an | Well it turns out. that on. Monday when Sampson resigned the Justice Department, started, to set up an office for him to work as, an attorney in a legislative, section of the. environment division at the. Justice Department, So, there was this idea that he could stick around and keep working at the Justice Department. ... | well it turns out that on monday, when sampson resigned, the justice department started to set up an office for him to work as an attorney in a legislative section of the environment division at the justice department. so there was this idea that he could stick around and keep working at the justice department as an at... |
Hmm. | hmm. | ||
Exactly, yeah. | exactly | Exactly | exactly, yeah. |
Now to an historic town in North Carolina that's facing a difficult question. The town of Princeville was founded by former slaves in 1885. It's considered one of the oldest towns chartered by African-Americans in the U.S. Hurricane Matthews (ph) devastated Princeville two weeks ago with massive flooding from the local... | now to an historic town. in north carolina that's facing a difficult question the town of princeville was founded by, former, slaves in 1885. it's considered one of the oldest towns chartered by african-americans. in the u.s hurricane matthews (ph) devastated princeville two weeks, ago with massive flooding from the lo... | Now to an, historic town in North Carolina that's facing a difficult question The town of Princeville was founded by former slaves in 1885. It's considered one. of the oldest, towns chartered by, African-Americans in the U.S Hurricane Matthews (ph) devastated Princeville; two weeks ago with, massive flooding from the l... | now to an historic town in north carolina that's facing a difficult question. the town of princeville was founded by former slaves in 1885. it's considered one of the oldest towns chartered by african-americans in the u.s. hurricane matthews (ph) devastated princeville two weeks ago with massive flooding from the local... |
It's something to see - water rushing back into the Tar River as it's being pumped out of the streets of Princeville. The National Guard has worked day and night to move 75 million gallons of floodwater from the town back to the river. Most of the 2,200 residents still haven't been able to return home to salvage what's... | it's something to see - water rushing back into the tar, river as it's being pumped out of the streets of princeville the, national guard has worked. day and night to move 75 million gallons of floodwater from the town back to the river most of the 2,200 residents still haven't been able to return. home to salvage what... | It's something to see - water, rushing back into the Tar River as it's. being pumped out of the streets of Princeville The National Guard has worked day and night to move 75 million gallons of floodwater from the, town back to the river Most of the 2,200 residents still haven't been able to return home to salvage what'... | it's something to see - water rushing back into the tar river as it's being pumped out of the streets of princeville. the national guard has worked day and night to move 75 million gallons of floodwater from the town back to the river. most of the 2,200 residents still haven't been able to return home to salvage what's... |
I had one person call me and asked me about the goldfish. They want to get back in there so they can get their goldfish. I said, ma'am, the goldfish can swim. Let's talk - let's get the people out first (laughter). | i had one person call me and asked me about the goldfish they want to get back in there so they can get their goldfish i said ma'am the goldfish can swim let's talk - let's get the people out first | I had, one, person call me and asked me about the goldfish They want to get back in there so they can get their goldfish I said ma'am the, goldfish can swim Let's talk - let's get; the people out first | i had one person call me and asked me about the goldfish. they want to get back in there so they can get their goldfish. i said, ma'am, the goldfish can swim. let's talk - let's get the people out first (laughter). |
Jones has spent the last several days looking over at Princeville from the Tar River Bridge. He had to take a boat to go see his home. | jones has spent the last several days looking over at princeville, from the tar river bridge he. had to take a, boat to go see his | Jones has spent, the last, several days looking over at. Princeville from the Tar River Bridge He had to take a boat; to go see his, | jones has spent the last several days looking over at princeville from the tar river bridge. he had to take a boat to go see his home. |
And it is underwater. | and it is | And it is | and it is underwater. |
When you say underwater, like, how much... | when, you say underwater like how | When. you. say underwater like how | when you say underwater, like, how much... |
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