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Rachel Leonard is a free spirit. In her 20s and early 30s, she lived all over the U.S. and traveled the world. She met lots of different people in all these places and wanted to keep in touch with them. | rachel leonard is a free spirit in her 20s and early 30s she lived all over the u.s. and traveled the world she met lots of, different. people in all these places and wanted to, keep in. touch with | Rachel Leonard is a free spirit In her 20s and early 30s she lived, all over the U.S and traveled the world She met, lots of different people in all these places and wanted to keep in touch, with | rachel leonard is a free spirit. in her 20s and early 30s, she lived all over the u.s. and traveled the world. she met lots of different people in all these places and wanted to keep in touch with them. |
And one of the ways to immediately connect with them was to friend them on Facebook. | and one of the ways to immediately connect with them was, to friend them on | And one of the ways to immediately connect with them was to friend them on | and one of the ways to immediately connect with them was to friend them on facebook. |
But, of course, having Facebook also allowed her to see what everyone back home was up to while she was backpacking in Central America or moving from one city to the next. | but of course having facebook also allowed her to see what everyone back home was up to while; she was backpacking in central america or moving from, one city to the | But of course having, Facebook also allowed her to. see what everyone back home was up to while she was backpacking in Central America or moving from one city to the | but, of course, having facebook also allowed her to see what everyone back home was up to while she was backpacking in central america or moving from one city to the next. |
You know, everybody's getting married. Some people have one child, some people have two children. All my friends have these high-powered jobs, and they own houses and all of these things. | you know everybody's getting married some people have one child some people have two children all my friends. have these, high-powered jobs and they own houses and, all of these | You know everybody's getting married Some people. have one child some people have two children All my friends have these high-powered jobs and they own houses and all of. these | you know, everybody's getting married. some people have one child, some people have two children. all my friends have these high-powered jobs, and they own houses and all of these things. |
Those feelings were in the back of her mind a few years later when she met a guy and decided to settle down. Soon, she was engaged and like so many of her friends posting about her relationship on social media. | those feelings were. in, the back of her mind a few years later when she met a guy and decided to settle, down soon she was engaged and like so. many, of her friends posting about her relationship, on social | Those feelings were, in the back of her mind a few years later when she met a guy and decided to settle down Soon she was engaged and like so many, of her friends posting about her, relationship on social | those feelings were in the back of her mind a few years later when she met a guy and decided to settle down. soon, she was engaged and like so many of her friends posting about her relationship on social media. |
We lived in, you know, the Blue Ridge Mountains, so we had these beautiful hikes and this lovely little town. And, of course, I'm posting all of this. | we. lived in you know the blue ridge mountains so we had these beautiful hikes and, this lovely little town and of course i'm posting all of | We lived. in you know the Blue Ridge, Mountains, so we had these beautiful hikes. and this lovely little town And, of course I'm posting all of | we lived in, you know, the blue ridge mountains, so we had these beautiful hikes and this lovely little town. and, of course, i'm posting all of this. |
Her new relationship, the house they'd moved into, the view from the porch - all of it looked beautiful on Facebook. | her new relationship the house they'd moved into the view from the porch. - all. of it looked beautiful on | Her new relationship the house they'd moved into the. view from the porch - all of it looked, beautiful, on | her new relationship, the house they'd moved into, the view from the porch - all of it looked beautiful on facebook. |
If you looked only from the porch, you could see mountains straight, but if you looked to the left, you could see this huge factory. But, of course, I didn't take pictures of the factory because why would you do that? | if you looked only from the porch you could see mountains straight but if, you looked to the left you could see this huge factory but of course i didn't take pictures. of. the factory because why would you, do. | If you looked, only from the porch you could, see mountains straight, but if, you looked to the left you could, see this huge factory But of course I didn't take pictures of. the factory because why. would you do | if you looked only from the porch, you could see mountains straight, but if you looked to the left, you could see this huge factory. but, of course, i didn't take pictures of the factory because why would you do that? |
And the factory wasn't the only thing Rachel says she was leaving out of the frame. | and the factory wasn't the only thing rachel says. she was, leaving, out of the | And. the factory wasn't the only thing Rachel. says she was leaving out of the | and the factory wasn't the only thing rachel says she was leaving out of the frame. |
What I'm not posting is that we fought a lot and what seemed to be kind of perfect to other people was not. | what i'm not posting is that we fought a lot and what seemed. to be kind, of perfect to, other people was | What I'm. not posting is that we fought a lot and what seemed to be kind, of perfect to other people was | what i'm not posting is that we fought a lot and what seemed to be kind of perfect to other people was not. |
But Rachel still tried to convince herself that this was what she wanted. She got married. She got pregnant right away. She had a difficult pregnancy, but, again, that wasn't something she felt she could share on social media. | but rachel still, tried to convince herself that, this was what she wanted she, got married she got pregnant right away she had a difficult pregnancy but again that wasn't something she felt she could share on social | But Rachel still tried to convince. herself that this was what she wanted She got married She got pregnant right away She had a difficult pregnancy but again that, wasn't something she felt she could share. on social | but rachel still tried to convince herself that this was what she wanted. she got married. she got pregnant right away. she had a difficult pregnancy, but, again, that wasn't something she felt she could share on social media. |
Instead of being able to say those things out loud, I just posted pictures of my growing belly, and, you know, cute things and working on the nursery and, you know, things like that. | instead of, being able to. say those things out loud i just posted pictures of my growing. belly and you know cute. things, and working on the; nursery and you, know; things like | Instead. of being able to say those things out loud I just posted pictures of my growing belly and you know cute things and working on the nursery and. you know things like | instead of being able to say those things out loud, i just posted pictures of my growing belly, and, you know, cute things and working on the nursery and, you know, things like that. |
The unhappier Rachel felt, the more she posted. And she spent a lot of time looking at other people's posts, too. | the unhappier, rachel felt the more she posted and she spent a lot of time looking, at other people's posts | The unhappier Rachel felt the more she posted And she spent a lot of time looking. at other people's posts | the unhappier rachel felt, the more she posted. and she spent a lot of time looking at other people's posts, too. |
I would just scour other people's lives. I would just - to compare, you know, their happiness against my happiness. You know, am I - I felt like I shouldn't be feeling the way I was feeling. | i would just. scour other people's lives i would just - to compare you know their happiness against my happiness you know; am. i. - i felt like i shouldn't be feeling the way. i was | I would just scour other. people's lives I would just - to compare you know their. happiness against my happiness You know am I - I felt like I shouldn't be feeling the way I was | i would just scour other people's lives. i would just - to compare, you know, their happiness against my happiness. you know, am i - i felt like i shouldn't be feeling the way i was feeling. |
It seemed the grass was always greener for everyone else, that everyone else was more successful, happier in their marriages, coping better with the challenges of parenthood. But then something happened that changed her perspective. Rachel's marriage fell apart, and she posted on Facebook that she and her son would be ... | it seemed the, grass was always greener for everyone else that everyone else was more successful happier in their marriages coping better with the challenges of parenthood but then something happened that changed her perspective rachel's, marriage fell, apart, and she posted on facebook that she and her son would be mo... | It seemed, the grass was always greener for everyone else that everyone else was more successful happier in their marriages coping better with the challenges of parenthood But then something happened that changed her perspective Rachel's marriage fell apart and she posted on Facebook that she and. her son would be movi... | it seemed the grass was always greener for everyone else, that everyone else was more successful, happier in their marriages, coping better with the challenges of parenthood. but then something happened that changed her perspective. rachel's marriage fell apart, and she posted on facebook that she and her son would be ... |
And I got so many private messages from friends of mine who were like are you guys getting divorced, blah, blah, blah? And I've been separated for six months or we're getting divorced or I've been divorced for two years. I had no idea. | and i got so many private messages from friends of mine who were like are you guys getting divorced blah blah blah? and i've been, separated for six months or we're getting divorced or i've been divorced for two years i had no | And I got so many private messages from friends of mine who. were like are, you guys, getting divorced blah blah blah? And I've been separated for six months or we're getting divorced or I've been divorced for two, years I had no | and i got so many private messages from friends of mine who were like are you guys getting divorced, blah, blah, blah? and i've been separated for six months or we're getting divorced or i've been divorced for two years. i had no idea. |
Many of the friends and acquaintances she had been envying turned out to be in the same situation she was - posting one thing but feeling another. | many of the, friends and acquaintances she, had been envying turned out to be in the same situation she. was - posting. one thing but feeling | Many of the friends and acquaintances she had been envying turned out to be in the same situation she was - posting one thing but feeling. | many of the friends and acquaintances she had been envying turned out to be in the same situation she was - posting one thing but feeling another. |
You're kind of curating your life, just these very specific moments, the best of the best that you're putting up there with no context. | you're kind of curating your life just these very specific moments, the best of the, best that you're putting up there, with no | You're kind of curating your life just these very specific moments the best of the best that you're putting, up there with. no | you're kind of curating your life, just these very specific moments, the best of the best that you're putting up there with no context. |
All of this curation had a negative effect on Rachel, and she's not alone. A recent study showed that spending time on Facebook increases our feelings of social comparison. Ohad Barzilay and his colleagues at Tel Aviv University studied employees at an Israeli security firm, some of whom were not allowed to use Faceboo... | all of this curation had a negative effect on rachel and she's not, alone a recent study. showed that spending time on facebook increases, our feelings of social comparison ohad barzilay and his colleagues, at tel aviv university studied employees at an israeli security firm some of whom were not allowed to use. facebo... | All of this curation had, a; negative effect on Rachel and she's not alone, A recent study showed that spending time on Facebook. increases our feelings of social comparison Ohad Barzilay, and his colleagues at Tel Aviv, University studied employees at an Israeli, security firm some of. whom were not. allowed to use Fa... | all of this curation had a negative effect on rachel, and she's not alone. a recent study showed that spending time on facebook increases our feelings of social comparison. ohad barzilay and his colleagues at tel aviv university studied employees at an israeli security firm, some of whom were not allowed to use faceboo... |
Using Facebook make you more comparative. You compare yourself to others more often, you judge yourself, you compare am I better or worse than my friends? Am I happier? Are they happier? And so on. | using facebook make you more comparative you compare yourself to. others more often you judge yourself you compare am i better or worse than my friends? am i happier? are they happier? and so | Using Facebook make you more comparative You compare, yourself to others, more often you judge yourself you compare; am I better or worse than my friends? Am I happier? Are they happier? And so | using facebook make you more comparative. you compare yourself to others more often, you judge yourself, you compare am i better or worse than my friends? am i happier? are they happier? and so on. |
One surprising thing that the study did not find was that people thought that others had better lives. In fact, they weren't fooled by all the happy vacation and anniversary pictures posted by their friends, but the constant feeling of social comparison still made people feel worse. | one surprising thing that the study did not find was that people thought that others had better lives in fact they weren't fooled by all the happy vacation and anniversary pictures posted by their friends but the constant feeling of social comparison still made people feel | One surprising thing that the study did not find was that people thought that others had better lives In fact they weren't fooled by all the happy vacation and anniversary pictures posted by their. friends but the constant feeling, of. social comparison still made people feel | one surprising thing that the study did not find was that people thought that others had better lives. in fact, they weren't fooled by all the happy vacation and anniversary pictures posted by their friends, but the constant feeling of social comparison still made people feel worse. |
Being engaged in excessive social comparison decreased one's happiness. So it's not that you think that others are happier than you are, but you need to prove yourself to yourself over and over again, and these social comparison engagement makes you less happy. | being engaged in excessive social, comparison decreased one's happiness so it's not that. you think that others are happier than you are but you need to prove yourself to yourself, over and over again. and these social comparison engagement makes you less | Being engaged in excessive social comparison decreased one's, happiness, So it's not that you think that others are happier than you are, but you; need to prove yourself to yourself over and over again and, these social comparison. engagement makes you less, | being engaged in excessive social comparison decreased one's happiness. so it's not that you think that others are happier than you are, but you need to prove yourself to yourself over and over again, and these social comparison engagement makes you less happy. |
Perhaps you've heard of young people talking about a phenomenon related to this. They often use the term FOMO. | perhaps you've heard of young people talking about a; phenomenon related to this they often use the term | Perhaps you've heard, of young people. talking about a phenomenon related to this They often use; the term | perhaps you've heard of young people talking about a phenomenon related to this. they often use the term fomo. |
Fear of missing out. | fear, of. missing | Fear of missing | fear of missing out. |
The fear of missing out. Barbara Kahn is a researcher at the University of Pennsylvania who studies decision-making. She became interested in FOMO after observing a situation with one of her daughter's friends. | the fear of missing out barbara kahn is a researcher at the university of pennsylvania who studies decision-making she became, interested in fomo after observing a situation with one of her daughter's, | The fear. of missing out Barbara Kahn is a researcher at the University of Pennsylvania who studies decision-making She. became interested in FOMO after observing a situation with one of her daughter's | the fear of missing out. barbara kahn is a researcher at the university of pennsylvania who studies decision-making. she became interested in fomo after observing a situation with one of her daughter's friends. |
One of her friends chose to go to a wedding in a beautiful locale instead of going to a beach weekend where the other friends were going to be. And instead of enjoying the wedding that she was at, she was looking at Facebook and looking at the activities of her friends at this beach weekend, which was a routine thing. ... | one of her friends chose to go to a wedding in a beautiful locale instead of going to a beach weekend where the other friends were. going to be and instead of, enjoying the wedding that she was at she was looking at facebook and looking at. the activities of her friends at. this beach weekend. which was a routine thing... | One of her friends chose, to go to a wedding in a beautiful. locale instead of going to a beach weekend where the other. friends were going to be And instead, of enjoying the wedding that she was at she was looking at, Facebook and looking at the activities of her friends at this beach, weekend which was a routine thin... | one of her friends chose to go to a wedding in a beautiful locale instead of going to a beach weekend where the other friends were going to be. and instead of enjoying the wedding that she was at, she was looking at facebook and looking at the activities of her friends at this beach weekend, which was a routine thing. ... |
Kahn thinks that seeing our friends having fun on social media taps into our social anxiety about belonging to the group. | kahn thinks that seeing our friends having, fun on social media taps into our social anxiety about belonging to the | Kahn. thinks that seeing our friends having fun on social media taps into our social anxiety about belonging to the | kahn thinks that seeing our friends having fun on social media taps into our social anxiety about belonging to the group. |
What we found out from a lot of the experiments that we ran, the thing that was generating the FOMO - it's like a social anxiety. And it's really more about what are your friends doing in building up their social group history that you're missing out on? | what we found out from a lot of the. experiments that we ran the thing that was. generating. the fomo - it's like a social anxiety and it's really, more about what are. your friends, doing in building up their. social group history that you're missing, out | What we. found out. from a lot of the experiments that we ran the thing that was generating the FOMO - it's like a, social anxiety, And it's really more about what are your friends doing in building up, their social group history that you're missing out, | what we found out from a lot of the experiments that we ran, the thing that was generating the fomo - it's like a social anxiety. and it's really more about what are your friends doing in building up their social group history that you're missing out on? |
Of course, Facebook didn't invent social anxiety. | of course facebook didn't invent social | Of course Facebook didn't invent social | of course, facebook didn't invent social anxiety. |
But when you see it on your phone, and you're just observing that your friends are doing something and you're not there, that's something you didn't get to see before. | but when, you see it on your phone, and you're, just observing that your friends are, doing something and you're not there that's something you didn't get to, see | But when you, see it on your. phone and you're just observing that your, friends are doing something and. you're not there that's something you didn't get to see. | but when you see it on your phone, and you're just observing that your friends are doing something and you're not there, that's something you didn't get to see before. |
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "IS IT YES OR IS IT NO?") | (soundbite of song "is it yes or is it | (SOUNDBITE OF SONG "IS IT YES OR IS IT | (soundbite of song, "is it yes or is it no?") |
I don't take a lot of pictures anymore. If I'm there in a moment and I'm having that moment, who's the picture for? | i don't take a lot of pictures anymore, if; i'm there in a moment and. i'm having that. moment who's the picture | I don't take a lot of pictures anymore If. I'm there in a moment and I'm having that moment who's the picture | i don't take a lot of pictures anymore. if i'm there in a moment and i'm having that moment, who's the picture for? |
In fact, she's even asked her new boyfriend not to post about their relationship on social media. This time, the good moments and the bad will be theirs alone. Shankar Vedantam, NPR News. | in fact she's even. asked her new boyfriend not, to post about their relationship on social; media this time. the good moments and the bad will be, theirs alone shankar vedantam npr. | In fact she's even asked her new boyfriend not to post about their relationship on social media This time the good moments and the bad will be theirs alone, Shankar Vedantam NPR | in fact, she's even asked her new boyfriend not to post about their relationship on social media. this time, the good moments and the bad will be theirs alone. shankar vedantam, npr news. |
If you have a fear of missing out on Shankar's discussions of the fear of missing out, there's more on his podcast Hidden Brain. | if you have a fear of missing out on shankar's discussions of the fear of missing, out there's more on his podcast hidden | If you have a fear, of. missing out on Shankar's, discussions of the fear of, missing out there's more on his podcast Hidden | if you have a fear of missing out on shankar's discussions of the fear of missing out, there's more on his podcast hidden brain. |
It is the last night of campaigning in Spain's northeast region of Catalonia. Separatists are holding a vote on independence on Sunday. It is a vote that the Spanish government has promised to stop. Madrid has sent thousands of police to Catalonia from all over Spain. Reporter Lauren Frayer joins us now from the Catala... | it is the last night of campaigning in spain's northeast region of catalonia. separatists are. holding a vote on independence on sunday it; is a vote that. the spanish government has promised to stop madrid has sent thousands of police to catalonia from all over spain reporter lauren frayer joins. us now from the catal... | It is the last night; of campaigning in, Spain's northeast region of Catalonia Separatists are holding a vote on. independence on. Sunday It is a vote that the Spanish government, has promised to stop; Madrid has, sent thousands, of police to Catalonia from. all over Spain Reporter Lauren Frayer joins us now, from, the... | it is the last night of campaigning in spain's northeast region of catalonia. separatists are holding a vote on independence on sunday. it is a vote that the spanish government has promised to stop. madrid has sent thousands of police to catalonia from all over spain. reporter lauren frayer joins us now from the catala... |
Hi, Kelly. | hi | Hi | hi, kelly. |
So what's it like in Barcelona tonight? | so what's it like in barcelona | So what's it like in Barcelona, | so what's it like in barcelona tonight? |
It's surprisingly festive. I mean separatist campaigners are setting up a huge stage for an all-night concert and political rally. Farmers have driven their tractors into the city to join in. Catalans say they're confident that they will be able to hold this vote. They showed off ballot boxes to the media today. | it's surprisingly festive i mean. separatist campaigners are setting up a huge, stage for an all-night concert and political rally farmers have driven their tractors into the city to join in catalans say they're confident that. they, will be able, to hold this vote they showed off ballot boxes to the media | It's surprisingly festive I mean separatist. campaigners are setting up a huge stage for an all-night concert and political rally Farmers have driven their tractors into the city to join in Catalans say they're confident that they will. be able to, hold this, vote. They showed off ballot boxes to the media | it's surprisingly festive. i mean separatist campaigners are setting up a huge stage for an all-night concert and political rally. farmers have driven their tractors into the city to join in. catalans say they're confident that they will be able to hold this vote. they showed off ballot boxes to the media today. |
And yet at the very same moment back in Madrid, the Spanish government was issuing a statement saying the whole thing will not happen, that it's unconstitutional. Thousands of extra police are here. All over the country, there were these goodbye parades for local police shipping off to Catalonia. And so emotions are ru... | and yet at the very same moment back in madrid the spanish government was issuing a statement saying the whole. thing, will not. happen that it's, unconstitutional thousands of extra police are here, all over the country, there were these goodbye. parades for local police shipping off to catalonia and so emotions are r... | And yet at the very, same moment back in Madrid the Spanish government was issuing. a statement saying the whole. thing will not happen that it's unconstitutional Thousands of extra police are here All over the country there, were these. goodbye parades for local police shipping off to Catalonia. And so emotions are ru... | and yet at the very same moment back in madrid, the spanish government was issuing a statement saying the whole thing will not happen, that it's unconstitutional. thousands of extra police are here. all over the country, there were these goodbye parades for local police shipping off to catalonia. and so emotions are ru... |
The Spanish government has arrested separatist leaders, and police have already confiscated ballots. Is that affecting how people are going to vote? | the spanish government has arrested separatist leaders, and police, have, already confiscated ballots is that affecting how people are going to | The Spanish government. has arrested separatist, leaders and police have already confiscated ballots; Is that affecting how people are going to, | the spanish government has arrested separatist leaders, and police have already confiscated ballots. is that affecting how people are going to vote? |
It's important to remember that Catalans have been divided over this. The most recent polls a few weeks ago showed about a 50-50 split for and against independence, though a vast majority want the right to vote on the issue. But all of these arrest raids that you mentioned may be galvanizing undecided voters. And here'... | it's important to remember that catalans have been divided over this the most recent polls a, few weeks ago showed about a 50-50 split for. and against independence, though, a vast majority want the right to vote on. the issue but all of these arrest raids that you mentioned may, be galvanizing undecided voters and her... | It's important to remember that Catalans have been divided over this The most recent, polls a few weeks ago showed about a 50-50 split for and against independence though a vast majority. want the right to vote on the issue But all of these arrest raids that you mentioned may be galvanizing undecided voters And here's ... | it's important to remember that catalans have been divided over this. the most recent polls a few weeks ago showed about a 50-50 split for and against independence, though a vast majority want the right to vote on the issue. but all of these arrest raids that you mentioned may be galvanizing undecided voters. and here'... |
(Speaking Spanish). | (speaking | (Speaking | (speaking spanish). |
He says at first, he was going to vote no against independence, and now he's thinking of voting in favor of independence. And it's because he thinks the Spanish prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, and his central government have handled this really poorly. | he says at, first. he was going to vote. no against independence and now he's, thinking of voting in favor of independence and. it's because he thinks the spanish prime minister mariano rajoy and his central government, have handled this really | He says at first he was going to vote no against independence and now he's thinking of voting in favor of independence, And it's because he thinks the Spanish prime minister Mariano Rajoy and his central government have handled this really | he says at first, he was going to vote no against independence, and now he's thinking of voting in favor of independence. and it's because he thinks the spanish prime minister, mariano rajoy, and his central government have handled this really poorly. |
So it sounds like kind of a standoff between Barcelona and Madrid. What do you think's going to happen on Sunday? | so, it sounds like. kind of. a standoff between barcelona and madrid; what do you think's going to happen on | So it sounds like kind of a standoff between Barcelona and Madrid What do you think's, going to happen on | so it sounds like kind of a standoff between barcelona and madrid. what do you think's going to happen on sunday? |
Well, police have been ordered to surround the public schools and empty them completely by 6 a.m. local time Sunday. These are more than 2,300 public schools that are being used as polling stations. Parent-teacher associations meanwhile say they'll barricade themselves inside, and many college students are already occu... | well police have, been ordered to surround the public schools; and empty them completely by 6 a.m local time sunday these are more than 2,300 public schools that are being used as polling stations parent-teacher associations meanwhile say they'll barricade themselves inside and many college students are already occupyi... | Well police have been ordered to surround the public schools and empty. them completely by 6 a.m local time Sunday, These are more than 2,300 public schools that are being used. as polling stations, Parent-teacher associations meanwhile say they'll barricade themselves inside and many, college students are already occu... | well, police have been ordered to surround the public schools and empty them completely by 6 a.m. local time sunday. these are more than 2,300 public schools that are being used as polling stations. parent-teacher associations meanwhile say they'll barricade themselves inside, and many college students are already occu... |
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(Chanting in Spanish). | (chanting in | (Chanting in | (chanting in spanish). |
Those are Catalan teachers at a pro-independence rally. And you can hear them shaking sets of keys in the air. They're saying these are the keys to the public schools, and they're saying that they hold the keys, not the police. | those are catalan, teachers. at a pro-independence rally and you can hear them shaking sets of keys, in the air. they're saying these are the keys to the public schools and they're saying that. they hold, the keys not, the | Those are Catalan teachers at a pro-independence rally And you can hear them shaking sets of keys; in the air They're saying; these are the keys to the, public schools and they're saying that they hold the keys not the | those are catalan teachers at a pro-independence rally. and you can hear them shaking sets of keys in the air. they're saying these are the keys to the public schools, and they're saying that they hold the keys, not the police. |
Wow. So if the yes votes win, if this region votes for independence, what happens then? | wow so if the yes votes win if this region. votes for independence what happens | Wow So if the yes votes win, if this region votes for independence what happens | wow. so if the yes votes win, if this region votes for independence, what happens then? |
Well, anti-independence parties are calling on their supporters to stay home. So we could have a situation where only a third of Catalans or even less than that vote. And yet the regional government declares independence based on that. They have said they'll make that declaration within 48 hours. It may fall on deaf ea... | well anti-independence parties are calling on their supporters to stay home so we could have; a situation where only a third of catalans or even less than that vote and yet the regional government. declares independence based on that they have, said they'll make that declaration within 48 hours it may fall on deaf ears... | Well anti-independence parties are calling on their supporters to, stay home So we could have a situation where, only a third of Catalans or even less, than that vote And yet the regional government declares independence based on that They have, said they'll make that declaration within 48 hours It may fall; on deaf ea... | well, anti-independence parties are calling on their supporters to stay home. so we could have a situation where only a third of catalans or even less than that vote. and yet the regional government declares independence based on that. they have said they'll make that declaration within 48 hours. it may fall on deaf ea... |
Lauren Frayer in Barcelona, thanks a lot. | lauren frayer in barcelona thanks a, | Lauren Frayer in Barcelona thanks a | lauren frayer in barcelona, thanks a lot. |
You're welcome. | you're | You're | you're welcome. |
This week, Israel will be marking the 50th anniversary of the Six-Day War. The conflict is known by other names, but six days stands out because so much happened in such a short time to change so much. By the time the ceasefire was called, the relatively new nation of Israel had captured territory from Egypt, Jordan an... | this, week israel. will be marking the 50th anniversary of. the six-day war the conflict is known by other names but six days stands out because so much happened in such a short time to change so much by the time the, ceasefire was called the relatively new nation. of israel had captured territory from egypt jordan and... | This week Israel will be marking the 50th anniversary; of the Six-Day War The conflict is known by other. names but six days stands out because so much happened in such a short time to change so much By the time the ceasefire was called the relatively new nation of Israel had captured, territory from Egypt. Jordan and ... | this week, israel will be marking the 50th anniversary of the six-day war. the conflict is known by other names, but six days stands out because so much happened in such a short time to change so much. by the time the ceasefire was called, the relatively new nation of israel had captured territory from egypt, jordan an... |
But that victory came at a cost. It started what has become a 50-year military occupation of the West Bank with no end in sight. It includes the flashpoint of East Jerusalem. Israel still controls entry and exit from Gaza. And it created what writer and editor Jane Eisner calls quote, "a painful ambiguity," unquote. | but that victory came at a cost it started what has become a 50-year military occupation of the west bank with no end in sight, it includes, the flashpoint of east, jerusalem, israel still controls entry and exit from gaza and it created what writer and editor jane eisner calls, quote "a painful | But that victory came at a cost It started what, has become a 50-year military occupation of, the West Bank with no. end in sight It includes the flashpoint of East, Jerusalem Israel still controls entry and exit from Gaza And, it created what, writer. and editor Jane Eisner calls quote "a painful. | but that victory came at a cost. it started what has become a 50-year military occupation of the west bank with no end in sight. it includes the flashpoint of east jerusalem. israel still controls entry and exit from gaza. and it created what writer and editor jane eisner calls quote, "a painful ambiguity," unquote. |
Now, a very great deal has been written and will be written about this anniversary, but we thought Jane Eisner's column stood out, so we asked her to tell us more of her thoughts. She's editor in chief of The Forward. It's a national Jewish news organization in the U.S., and we called her in New York. Jane Eisner, than... | now a very great deal has been written and will, be written, about this anniversary but we thought jane eisner's, column stood out so we asked her to tell us more of her thoughts she's editor in chief of the forward, it's a national jewish news organization, in the u.s., and we called her in new york jane eisner, thank... | Now a very great deal has been written and will be written about this anniversary but we thought, Jane Eisner's column stood out so we asked her to tell us more of her, thoughts She's editor in chief of The Forward It's a national Jewish news organization in the U.S., and we called, her in New, York; Jane Eisner thanks... | now, a very great deal has been written and will be written about this anniversary, but we thought jane eisner's column stood out, so we asked her to tell us more of her thoughts. she's editor in chief of the forward. it's a national jewish news organization in the u.s., and we called her in new york. jane eisner, than... |
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Now, in your column for The Forward about the anniversary, you started with your memories of listening to the radio as a little girl hearing about Israel's preemptive strike on Egypt's Air Force. You recall that sense of dread and of fear and after victory, the enormous pride. But then you write about the anniversary t... | now. in your column, for. the forward about the anniversary you started with your memories of. listening to the radio as a little girl hearing about israel's, preemptive strike on egypt's air force, you recall that sense of dread and of. fear and after. victory the enormous pride; but then you write about the anniversa... | Now in your column for The; Forward about the anniversary you started with your memories of, listening to the radio as a little girl, hearing about Israel's preemptive strike on Egypt's Air Force You recall that sense of dread and of fear and after victory the enormous pride But then you write about the anniversary, th... | now, in your column for the forward about the anniversary, you started with your memories of listening to the radio as a little girl hearing about israel's preemptive strike on egypt's air force. you recall that sense of dread and of fear and after victory, the enormous pride. but then you write about the anniversary t... |
Why the conflicted feelings? | why the conflicted | Why the conflicted | why the conflicted feelings? |
Even as a little girl, I still remember the sheer terror of thinking that little Israel surrounded by enemies was going to not exist anymore. And so to witness this very quick and stunning victory - it's hard to recognize this now, but Israel captured three times as much land as it had before this war - was just astoni... | even as a little girl i still remember the sheer terror of thinking that little israel surrounded by enemies was going to not exist anymore and so to witness this very quick and stunning victory - it's hard to recognize this now but israel captured three times as much land as it had before this war - was just astonishi... | Even as a little girl I still remember the sheer terror of thinking that little Israel surrounded by enemies was going to not exist anymore And, so to witness this very quick and stunning victory - it's hard to recognize this now, but Israel captured three. times as much land as. it had; before this war - was just asto... | even as a little girl, i still remember the sheer terror of thinking that little israel surrounded by enemies was going to not exist anymore. and so to witness this very quick and stunning victory - it's hard to recognize this now, but israel captured three times as much land as it had before this war - was just astoni... |
Wow, that's fantastic. I'm from Deptford. So it's... | wow that's fantastic i'm from. deptford so | Wow that's fantastic I'm from Deptford So. | wow, that's fantastic. i'm from deptford. so it's... |
Well, ironically that depends on where you go, what school district you're in, what state your in. one of the long standing problems or issues in how math is taught is that what gets taught varies from school to school, district to district, and state to state. | well ironically that depends on where you go what school district you're. in what state your in one of the long standing problems or issues in how. math is taught is that what gets taught varies from school to school district to district and state to | Well, ironically. that depends on where you go what school district, you're in what state your in one of the long standing problems or. issues in, how math, is taught is that what gets taught varies from, school to. school district to district and state. to | well, ironically that depends on where you go, what school district you're in, what state your in. one of the long standing problems or issues in how math is taught is that what gets taught varies from school to school, district to district, and state to state. |
Part of what the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics has been trying to do or said they were trying to do this past fall was to streamline that curriculum and bring more focus to what gets taught at the pre-K through grade 8 levels, where basically there have been so many different approaches with not a whole l... | part of what the national council of teachers of mathematics has been trying. to, do or said they were trying to do this past fall was. to streamline that curriculum and bring more focus to what gets taught at, the pre-k through grade 8 levels where, basically there have been so many. different, approaches with not a w... | Part. of what the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics has been. trying to do or said they were trying to do this past fall was to streamline, that curriculum and bring. more focus to what gets taught; at the pre-K through grade 8 levels where basically there have. been so many different approaches with not. a w... | part of what the national council of teachers of mathematics has been trying to do or said they were trying to do this past fall was to streamline that curriculum and bring more focus to what gets taught at the pre-k through grade 8 levels, where basically there have been so many different approaches with not a whole l... |
Now, is the idea - is the feeling - first of all, let's talk about exactly what the problem is with the way math is taught now. The need for teaching fewer - why is it important to teach few - why are they saying now that it's important to teach fewer concepts rather than too many concepts? | now is the idea - is the feeling - first of all let's talk about exactly what the problem is. with the way math is taught now the need for teaching fewer - why is, it important to teach few - why are they; saying now that. it's important to teach fewer concepts rather than too many | Now is the idea - is the feeling, - first of all, let's; talk about exactly what the problem; is with the, way math is taught now The need for teaching fewer - why is it important, to teach few - why are they saying. now that it's important to teach fewer. concepts rather than too many | now, is the idea - is the feeling - first of all, let's talk about exactly what the problem is with the way math is taught now. the need for teaching fewer - why is it important to teach few - why are they saying now that it's important to teach fewer concepts rather than too many concepts? |
I think part of the idea is that we've had this long standing debate in math about what needs to get taught at what grade level. And that creates a lot of problems in the classroom for teachers, because a lot of teachers at the elementary and middle school level want more direction. | i think part of the idea is that we've had this long standing debate in math about what. needs to get taught at what grade level and. that creates a lot of problems in the classroom for teachers because, a lot of teachers at the elementary, and middle school level. want more | I think part; of, the idea is that. we've had this long standing debate in math about what needs. to get taught at what, grade level And that creates a lot of problems. in the classroom for; teachers because a, lot of teachers at the elementary and middle school level want more; | i think part of the idea is that we've had this long standing debate in math about what needs to get taught at what grade level. and that creates a lot of problems in the classroom for teachers, because a lot of teachers at the elementary and middle school level want more direction. |
They want to know well, what should I be teaching first, second, third graders at various times during the school year. How can I avoid duplication of topics? When is it necessary to review? When is it necessary to forge ahead? There hasn't been a whole lot of consistency so far. | they want to know well what should i be teaching first second third graders at various times during, the school year how can; i avoid duplication, of topics? when is it necessary to review? when is it necessary to forge, ahead? there hasn't been a whole lot of consistency so | They, want, to know well what should I be teaching first second third graders at various times during the school year How can I. avoid duplication of topics? When is it necessary, to review? When is it necessary to forge. ahead? There hasn't been a whole lot of consistency so. | they want to know well, what should i be teaching first, second, third graders at various times during the school year. how can i avoid duplication of topics? when is it necessary to review? when is it necessary to forge ahead? there hasn't been a whole lot of consistency so far. |
So I think that one of the main points the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics is making through this document you've been talking about is let's get at a few core key concepts in math and narrow it down and give teachers more direction, more structure, a more focused set of principles. | so i think that one of the main points the national council of teachers of mathematics is making through this document you've been talking about is let's get at a few, core key concepts in math and. narrow it down and give; teachers more direction more. structure a more focused set of | So I think that one of the main points the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics is making through this document you've been talking about is let's get, at a few core key concepts in math, and narrow, it down and give teachers more direction more structure a more focused, set of | so i think that one of the main points the national council of teachers of mathematics is making through this document you've been talking about is let's get at a few core key concepts in math and narrow it down and give teachers more direction, more structure, a more focused set of principles. |
Also let's talk about how kids are being affected by the way it's being taught right now. Because I think a lot of parents probably have noticed this, which is it seems like sometimes they move very quickly from one subject to the other and if you don't have a math whiz at home, you know, they may not really have grasp... | also let's talk about, how kids are being affected by the way it's being taught right now because i think a lot of parents probably have noticed this which is it seems like sometimes they move very quickly from one subject to the; other and, if you don't have a, math. whiz, at, home you know they may not really have gr... | Also, let's talk about how kids are being affected by the way it's being taught; right now Because I think a lot of parents probably have, noticed, this which is it seems like sometimes they move very quickly from one subject to the, other and if you don't have, a math whiz at home you. know they may not really have gr... | also let's talk about how kids are being affected by the way it's being taught right now. because i think a lot of parents probably have noticed this, which is it seems like sometimes they move very quickly from one subject to the other and if you don't have a math whiz at home, you know, they may not really have grasp... |
That's true. And when you think about it that's not a very efficient way of teaching the subject. Because what that means is if you've got a first grader who goes on to the next grade and they've sort of raced through a series of topics they may end up having to spend a good portion of their second grade year going bac... | that's true and when you think, about it that's not a very efficient way of, teaching the subject, because, what that means is if you've got a, first grader who goes on to the next grade and they've sort of raced through a series of topics they may end up having to spend a good portion of their second grade year going ... | That's true And when you, think. about it that's not a very efficient way of teaching the subject Because what that means is, if you've got a first grader. who goes on to the next grade and they've sort of raced through a series of topics. they may end up having to spend a good portion of their second grade year going ... | that's true. and when you think about it that's not a very efficient way of teaching the subject. because what that means is if you've got a first grader who goes on to the next grade and they've sort of raced through a series of topics they may end up having to spend a good portion of their second grade year going bac... |
That's long been identified as a major problem in math. I think that one of the challenges that the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics talked about and really math experts all around the country is how to teach it well the first time and make sure students learn at the first time so that you don't end up with ... | that's long been identified as a major problem in math i think that one of the challenges that the national council of teachers, of mathematics. talked about and really math experts all. around the country is how. to teach, it well the first time and make sure students learn at the first time so. that you don't end up ... | That's long been identified as a major problem in. math I. think that, one of the challenges that the National Council of Teachers, of Mathematics talked, about and really math, experts all around the country is how to teach it well the first time and make sure students learn at the first time so that you don't. end up... | that's long been identified as a major problem in math. i think that one of the challenges that the national council of teachers of mathematics talked about and really math experts all around the country is how to teach it well the first time and make sure students learn at the first time so that you don't end up with ... |
And as I understand it also, there's a lot of concern about how American kids do in comparison to students in other countries that our students are falling behind such countries as Japan and Singapore - many other countries around the world that we don't do as well. | and. as i understand it also there's a lot of concern about how american kids do in comparison to students in, other countries that our students. are; falling behind such countries as japan and singapore - many other countries around the world, that we don't do as | And as I understand it also there's a, lot of concern, about how American kids do in comparison to, students in other countries that our students are falling behind such countries as Japan and Singapore. - many other countries around the world; that we don't do as | and as i understand it also, there's a lot of concern about how american kids do in comparison to students in other countries that our students are falling behind such countries as japan and singapore - many other countries around the world that we don't do as well. |
Oh, definitely. I mean, if you look at the results of the (unintelligible) of test, the two basically big international tests, American students are generally falling in the middle of the pack in math. And they're, didn't you know they're not doing well and whole series of skills from, depending on how you look at it f... | oh definitely i mean if you look, at the results of the (unintelligible) of test, the, two basically big international. tests american students are generally falling in the middle of the pack in math and. they're didn't you know they're not, doing, well and whole series of skills from depending on. how you look. at it ... | Oh definitely. I mean if you look at the results; of the (unintelligible) of test the two basically big international tests American students are generally falling in the middle of the pack, in math And, they're, didn't you know, they're not doing well and. whole series of skills from depending on how you look at it fr... | oh, definitely. i mean, if you look at the results of the (unintelligible) of test, the two basically big international tests, american students are generally falling in the middle of the pack in math. and they're, didn't you know they're not doing well and whole series of skills from, depending on how you look at it f... |
So, the countries that are consistently doing well, you know seem to have a more streamlined approach to teaching math. In some cases these countries have a national curriculum in which - but not always - but in some cases those countries have a uniform set of principles that all students learn essentially at the same ... | so the countries that are consistently doing well you know seem to have a more streamlined approach to teaching math in some cases these countries have, a. national curriculum in which - but not always - but in some cases those countries have a uniform set of principles that all students learn essentially at the same, ... | So the countries that are. consistently doing, well you know seem to have a more streamlined approach to teaching math In some cases these countries have a national curriculum in which - but not always. - but in some cases those countries have a uniform set of principles that all students learn essentially at the same ... | so, the countries that are consistently doing well, you know seem to have a more streamlined approach to teaching math. in some cases these countries have a national curriculum in which - but not always - but in some cases those countries have a uniform set of principles that all students learn essentially at the same ... |
All right, well thanks so much for joining us today Sean. | all right well, thanks so much for joining us today | All right well thanks so; much for. joining. us today | all right, well thanks so much for joining us today sean. |
Oh, you're welcome. | oh you're | Oh you're | oh, you're welcome. |
Sean Cavanaugh reports on Math and Science for education week, and he joins us by phone from his office in Maryland. Joining me now is Francis Fennel. He is the president of the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics, and he's with me by phone from College Park in Maryland. Thanks so much for being with us today. | sean cavanaugh. reports on math and science for education week and he joins us by. phone from his, office in maryland joining me. now is francis. fennel he is the, president. of the national council of teachers of mathematics and he's with. me by phone from college park in maryland thanks so much for being with, us | Sean Cavanaugh reports on Math and Science, for education week and he joins us by phone from his office in Maryland Joining, me now is, Francis Fennel He is the president of the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics and he's with me by, phone from College Park in Maryland Thanks so, much for, being with us | sean cavanaugh reports on math and science for education week, and he joins us by phone from his office in maryland. joining me now is francis fennel. he is the president of the national council of teachers of mathematics, and he's with me by phone from college park in maryland. thanks so much for being with us today. |
Hello, Lynn. Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be with you actually. By the way, I have traveled motored from College Park. I'm now in the District of Columbia. | hello lynn thanks. for having me it's a; pleasure to be with you actually by the way i, have traveled motored from college park i'm now. in the. district of | Hello Lynn Thanks for having me. It's a, pleasure to be with you actually By the way I have traveled motored from, College Park I'm now, in the District of | hello, lynn. thanks for having me. it's a pleasure to be with you actually. by the way, i have traveled motored from college park. i'm now in the district of columbia. |
All right. Well, thanks for that correction. That precise mathematician in you. | all right well thanks for that correction that, precise mathematician in | All right Well thanks for that correction That precise mathematician in | all right. well, thanks for that correction. that precise mathematician in you. |
How about that? | how about | How about | how about that? |
But can you graph it for me exactly where you are? | but can you graph it. for me, exactly where you | But can you graph it, for me exactly where you | but can you graph it for me exactly where you are? |
Sure. | sure. | ||
You could. | you | You. | you could. |
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The city of Washington is a wonderful coordinate laid out by that famous mathematician, Benjamin Banneker. What a great opportunity to talk math in this great town. | the. city of washington is a wonderful coordinate laid out, by that famous mathematician benjamin banneker, what a great opportunity. to talk math in this great | The city of Washington is a wonderful coordinate, laid out by that famous mathematician Benjamin Banneker What. a great opportunity to talk math in this great | the city of washington is a wonderful coordinate laid out by that famous mathematician, benjamin banneker. what a great opportunity to talk math in this great town. |
Okay. Tell me about this Focal Points curriculum and how it sort of changes the teaching of math. What is the Focal Points about? | okay tell me about this focal points; curriculum and how it sort of changes the teaching of math what is the focal, points | Okay Tell me about this Focal Points curriculum and how it sort of changes. the teaching of math What is the Focal Points | okay. tell me about this focal points curriculum and how it sort of changes the teaching of math. what is the focal points about? |
Well, of course our goal is that a couple of things happen. One is - and I was listening to Sean Cavanaugh's words and he certainly got it right in terms of the intent and some of the issues we face. There are 49 of our 50 states out there that have curriculum documents, curriculum frameworks of one type or another and... | well of course our goal is, that a couple of things happen one, is - and i was listening to sean cavanaugh's words and he certainly got it right in terms of, the intent and some, of the. issues we face. there are 49 of our 50 states out there that have curriculum documents curriculum frameworks of one type or another a... | Well of. course. our goal is that a couple. of things happen One, is - and I was listening to Sean Cavanaugh's words and he certainly got it right in terms of the intent, and some of the issues we face There are 49 of our 50 states out there that have curriculum documents curriculum; frameworks of one type or another a... | well, of course our goal is that a couple of things happen. one is - and i was listening to sean cavanaugh's words and he certainly got it right in terms of the intent and some of the issues we face. there are 49 of our 50 states out there that have curriculum documents, curriculum frameworks of one type or another and... |
So they have the one, two, threes that they're taught by their parents and grandparents like ABCs. But if you get to the plus which means addition and subtraction, and all these, and suddenly, they don't know what to do with it because it's a foreign language and they thought that they understood the one, two, threes a... | so they have the one two, threes that they're taught by their parents and grandparents like abcs but if you get to the plus which means addition and subtraction and all these and, suddenly they don't know what. to do with it because it's a foreign language and they thought that. they, understood the one, two threes and... | So they have the one two threes that they're taught by their parents and grandparents like ABCs But if you get to the plus which, means addition and subtraction and, all these and suddenly they don't know what to do, with it because it's a foreign language and they thought that they understood the one. two threes and t... | so they have the one, two, threes that they're taught by their parents and grandparents like abcs. but if you get to the plus which means addition and subtraction, and all these, and suddenly, they don't know what to do with it because it's a foreign language and they thought that they understood the one, two, threes a... |
So, here I am the fourth grade teacher and I've liked most fourth grade teachers. I have kind of a generalist background and I've studied some mathematics but it sure wasn't my major. I'm responsible for pretty much all the subjects. I'm now stereotyping now, but this is pretty much occasion this country. And I'm faced... | so here i am the fourth grade teacher and i've liked. most fourth grade teachers i have kind of a generalist background and i've, studied some. mathematics but; it sure wasn't my major i'm, responsible for pretty, much all the subjects i'm now stereotyping now but this is pretty much occasion this country and i'm faced... | So here I am the fourth grade, teacher and I've liked most fourth grade teachers I have, kind of a. generalist background and, I've studied some mathematics but it sure wasn't, my major I'm responsible for pretty much all the subjects I'm now stereotyping now but this is pretty much occasion this country And I'm faced ... | so, here i am the fourth grade teacher and i've liked most fourth grade teachers. i have kind of a generalist background and i've studied some mathematics but it sure wasn't my major. i'm responsible for pretty much all the subjects. i'm now stereotyping now, but this is pretty much occasion this country. and i'm faced... |
And so what we're trying to do is if you will provide some focus, i.e. Focal Points, provide some coherence across these 49 documents so that when children walk into a fourth grade classroom while there may be still scores of objectives. We can certainly have some essentials taught deeply and well at particular grade l... | and so what, we're trying to do is if you will provide some focus i.e. focal points provide some coherence across. these, 49 documents so that when children walk into a. fourth grade classroom while there may be still scores of objectives we can certainly have some essentials taught deeply and. well at particular grade... | And so what we're trying to do is if, you will provide some focus i.e Focal Points provide some coherence across. these 49 documents so that when children walk into a fourth grade classroom while there may be still scores of objectives We can certainly have some essentials taught deeply, and well at particular grade | and so what we're trying to do is if you will provide some focus, i.e. focal points, provide some coherence across these 49 documents so that when children walk into a fourth grade classroom while there may be still scores of objectives. we can certainly have some essentials taught deeply and well at particular grade l... |
Well, then, define from what you mean by Focal Points. You're saying then a fourth grader needs to know what? | well then define from what you mean by focal points you're saying then, a fourth grader needs; to know | Well then. define, from what you mean by Focal Points You're saying then a fourth grader needs to know | well, then, define from what you mean by focal points. you're saying then a fourth grader needs to know what? |
Well, okay, for example, at the fourth grade level we call for children being able to recall their basic multiplication facts and have developed some fluency with multiplication and how it works. What is multiplication? How we do multiplication? And those kinds of things. | well okay for example at the fourth grade level, we call. for children being able to recall their basic multiplication facts, and have developed some fluency with multiplication and how it works what is multiplication? how we do multiplication? and those kinds of | Well okay for example at the fourth; grade level we call for children being able to recall their basic multiplication facts and have developed some fluency with multiplication and how it works What is multiplication? How we do multiplication? And those, kinds of | well, okay, for example, at the fourth grade level we call for children being able to recall their basic multiplication facts and have developed some fluency with multiplication and how it works. what is multiplication? how we do multiplication? and those kinds of things. |
In addition to that, we have another focal point that deals with two dimensional shape and so forth. And I don't have the document sitting right in front of me. But we have three of these per grade level, plus connections back to them to support them. So we're trying to give the teacher and those who are in charge, if ... | in, addition to that we have another focal point that deals with two dimensional shape and so forth and. i don't have the document sitting right in front of me, but we have three of these per grade; level plus connections back, to them to support them so we're trying to give, the teacher and those who are in charge if ... | In addition to that we, have another. focal point that deals with two dimensional shape and so forth And. I don't have the document sitting right in front, of me But we have three of these per grade level plus connections back to them to support. them So we're trying to give the. teacher. and those who are in charge if... | in addition to that, we have another focal point that deals with two dimensional shape and so forth. and i don't have the document sitting right in front of me. but we have three of these per grade level, plus connections back to them to support them. so we're trying to give the teacher and those who are in charge, if ... |
So the idea is go a little deeper with fewer content. | so the idea is go a little deeper, with fewer | So the idea is go a little deeper with fewer | so the idea is go a little deeper with fewer content. |
Yeah, absolutely. Depth is really our goal here, you know. It's, you know, that classic phrase that I just heard a few minutes ago our curriculum being a mile wide and an inch deep is partly because we have so many topics and we scratch the surface. | yeah, absolutely depth is really our goal here you know it's you know that classic phrase that i just heard a few minutes ago our curriculum being a mile wide and, an inch deep. is partly, because. we have so many topics and we scratch the | Yeah absolutely Depth is really our, goal here you, know It's you know that classic phrase that I just heard a few minutes ago our curriculum being a mile wide and an inch deep is partly because we have so many topics and we scratch the | yeah, absolutely. depth is really our goal here, you know. it's, you know, that classic phrase that i just heard a few minutes ago our curriculum being a mile wide and an inch deep is partly because we have so many topics and we scratch the surface. |
You know, for instance, multiplication is really important. And we want kids to understand that. Certainly we want them to get the right answers. Certainly, we want them to be able to tell us what seven times six is - that's always been important. But we also want them to understand what they're doing. | you know for instance multiplication. is really important and, we want kids, to understand that certainly we want them to get the right answers certainly we want them to be able to tell us what seven times six is - that's always been important but we also. want them to understand what they're | You know for, instance multiplication is. really important And, we want kids to understand that Certainly we want them to get the right answers Certainly we want; them. to be able to tell us what seven times six is - that's always been important But we also want them to. understand what they're | you know, for instance, multiplication is really important. and we want kids to understand that. certainly we want them to get the right answers. certainly, we want them to be able to tell us what seven times six is - that's always been important. but we also want them to understand what they're doing. |
All right, let's see if we can get a caller on here. Juliet is calling from California. Hi, Juliet. | all right let's see if we. can get a caller on here juliet, is calling from california hi | All right let's see if we can; get a caller on here Juliet; is calling from California Hi | all right, let's see if we can get a caller on here. juliet is calling from california. hi, juliet. |
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I have an eighth grade daughter who's in Algebra 1, which I took in ninth grade 30-some years ago. And I found that the way that she's being taught is so rapid fire through the process that she's never getting any concept down. If it not for the fact, that I spend an hour or so everyday with her doing her homework with... | i have an, eighth grade daughter. who's in algebra 1, which i took in ninth grade 30-some years ago and i found that the way that she's being taught is so rapid fire through the process that she's never getting any concept down if it not for, the fact that. i spend an hour or so everyday with her doing her homework. wi... | I have an eighth grade daughter who's in Algebra 1, which I took in ninth grade 30-some years ago And I found that the way that she's being taught is so rapid fire through the process that she's never getting any concept down If it not for the. fact that I. spend an hour or so everyday with her, doing, her homework wit... | i have an eighth grade daughter who's in algebra 1, which i took in ninth grade 30-some years ago. and i found that the way that she's being taught is so rapid fire through the process that she's never getting any concept down. if it not for the fact, that i spend an hour or so everyday with her doing her homework with... |
As a result, she gets all her homework correct. When she takes the test, she get almost everything wrong, because she can't generate it on her own. She doesn't have the depth to really understand what she's doing. And the teachers are not being permitted, I think, to really go in to the subjects that are most important... | as a result she gets all her homework correct when. she takes the test she get almost everything wrong because she can't generate it on her own she doesn't have the depth to really understand what she's doing and the teachers are not being permitted i; think to really go in to the subjects that are most important in th... | As a result she gets; all her homework correct When she takes the test she get almost everything wrong. because she can't. generate it on, her own She doesn't have the depth to really understand what she's doing And the teachers are not being permitted I think to really go in to the subjects. that are. most important i... | as a result, she gets all her homework correct. when she takes the test, she get almost everything wrong, because she can't generate it on her own. she doesn't have the depth to really understand what she's doing. and the teachers are not being permitted, i think, to really go in to the subjects that are most important... |
I think that there are instead being taught in California to teach for the STAR test which is you know, the state assessment test by which the schools get paid. And they are being forced to go through an enormous amount of curriculum as you said in such a degree of shallowness that nobody is really getting it. | i think that there are instead being taught in california to teach for the star test which is you know the. state assessment test by which the schools get paid and they are being forced to go through an enormous amount of curriculum as you said, in, such, a degree of shallowness that nobody. is really getting | I think that there; are instead being taught in California to teach for the STAR test, which is. you know the state assessment test by which the schools get paid And they, are being forced to go through an enormous amount. of curriculum as. you said in such a degree of shallowness that nobody is really getting | i think that there are instead being taught in california to teach for the star test which is you know, the state assessment test by which the schools get paid. and they are being forced to go through an enormous amount of curriculum as you said in such a degree of shallowness that nobody is really getting it. |
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