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Little wonder no one wants to buy stocks, says Harvard economist Kenneth Rogoff.
little wonder no one wants to buy, stocks says harvard economist kenneth
Little; wonder no one wants to buy stocks says Harvard economist Kenneth
little wonder no one wants to buy stocks, says harvard economist kenneth rogoff.
When everyone sees that global growth is slowing down, it's not just the U.S. We're also seeing China and Europe slowing down. They go, oh, no. It's going to be harder than ever to dig our way out of this mess.
when everyone sees that global growth is slowing down it's; not just the u.s we're, also seeing china and europe slowing down they go oh no it's going to be harder than ever, to dig our way out of this
When everyone, sees that global. growth is slowing down it's not just the U.S We're also seeing China and Europe slowing down They go oh no It's going, to be harder than ever to dig our way out, of. this
when everyone sees that global growth is slowing down, it's not just the u.s. we're also seeing china and europe slowing down. they go, oh, no. it's going to be harder than ever to dig our way out of this mess.
Just last year, prospects seemed brighter. After the financial crisis, the global economy rebounded. But that growth has now stalled in ways that remind us how the global economy is interwoven.
just last; year prospects seemed brighter after the, financial crisis the global economy, rebounded but that growth has now stalled in ways that remind. us how the global economy is
Just last year prospects seemed brighter After the, financial crisis the global, economy rebounded, But that growth has now stalled in ways that remind us how the; global economy is,
just last year, prospects seemed brighter. after the financial crisis, the global economy rebounded. but that growth has now stalled in ways that remind us how the global economy is interwoven.
China, for example, has been booming, in part because of demand for its products in the U.S. and Europe. But Kenneth Rogoff points out that with U.S. and European consumers and businesses cutting back on their spending, even China gets hurt.
china for example has been booming; in, part because of demand for its products in, the u.s and europe but kenneth rogoff points out that with u.s, and european consumers and businesses cutting back on their spending even china gets.
China for example has been. booming, in. part because of demand for its products in the U.S and Europe But Kenneth Rogoff, points out that with U.S and, European consumers and businesses cutting back on their spending, even China. gets.
china, for example, has been booming, in part because of demand for its products in the u.s. and europe. but kenneth rogoff points out that with u.s. and european consumers and businesses cutting back on their spending, even china gets hurt.
Although it's still growing, China's not collapsing at all, it's notably slowing, and it's being affected by the rest of the world. And all of these things connect, so we're seeing all the major regions of the world slow down, and it's not clear where growth is going to come from in the coming quarters.
although it's still growing china's, not collapsing at all. it's notably slowing and it's being affected by the rest of the world and all of these things, connect so we're seeing all the major regions of the, world slow down and it's not clear where growth is going to come from in the coming
Although it's still, growing China's not collapsing at all it's notably slowing and it's being affected by. the rest of the world And all of these, things connect, so we're seeing all the major regions of the world slow down and it's, not clear where growth is going to come from, in the coming
although it's still growing, china's not collapsing at all, it's notably slowing, and it's being affected by the rest of the world. and all of these things connect, so we're seeing all the major regions of the world slow down, and it's not clear where growth is going to come from in the coming quarters.
Rogoff, the co-author of a book on the history of financial crises, points out that a slowdown like this is typical after a big financial crisis. In working so hard to get banks to lend again and consumers and businesses to spend again, governments drive themselves deep into debt.
rogoff the co-author of, a book on the history of, financial crises points out that a slowdown like this is typical after a big financial crisis in working so, hard to get banks to. lend again and consumers and businesses to spend again governments drive themselves deep, into,
Rogoff the co-author of a book on the history of financial crises points out that a slowdown like this is typical after a big financial crisis In working so hard to get banks to lend again and consumers. and, businesses to spend again governments drive themselves deep into
rogoff, the co-author of a book on the history of financial crises, points out that a slowdown like this is typical after a big financial crisis. in working so hard to get banks to lend again and consumers and businesses to spend again, governments drive themselves deep into debt.
Cornell University economist Eswar Prasad points out that government debt has become a burden for all the big Western economies.
cornell. university economist eswar prasad points, out that government debt has, become a burden for all the big. western
Cornell University economist Eswar, Prasad points out that government debt has become, a burden for all the big Western
cornell university economist eswar prasad points out that government debt has become a burden for all the big western economies.
And the high levels of government debt that exist in virtually every advanced economy are going to be a real drag on their growth.
and the high, levels of government debt that exist in virtually every advanced economy. are going to be a real drag on their
And the high levels of government debt that exist in virtually every advanced economy. are. going to, be a real. drag on their
and the high levels of government debt that exist in virtually every advanced economy are going to be a real drag on their growth.
Instead of promoting economic activity, those governments have to focus on financing their debt. Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, they're all having trouble getting banks to loan them what they need. And that prospect has investors here worried, as well, with regard to the U.S. future. It adds up to economic tr...
instead of promoting economic activity those governments have to focus on financing their debt greece italy. spain portugal ireland they're all having trouble getting banks. to loan them what they need and; that, prospect has investors here worried as well with regard to the u.s future it adds up, to economic trouble f...
Instead of promoting economic activity those. governments have to. focus on financing their debt Greece Italy Spain Portugal Ireland they're all having trouble getting banks to loan them what they need And, that prospect has investors here worried as well. with regard, to the U.S future It adds up to economic, trouble ...
instead of promoting economic activity, those governments have to focus on financing their debt. greece, italy, spain, portugal, ireland, they're all having trouble getting banks to loan them what they need. and that prospect has investors here worried, as well, with regard to the u.s. future. it adds up to economic tr...
The new economies, the emerging market countries, are in relatively better shape. Those that export to the advanced countries are affected by some of their export markets drying up, but Prasad points out that consumers in those countries - China, for example - are making up some of the difference. Plus, Prasad says, ma...
the new economies the emerging market countries are in relatively better. shape those that export to the advanced. countries are affected by some of their export markets drying up but prasad points out that consumers in those countries - china for example, - are making up some of the difference plus prasad says many of...
The new economies the. emerging market countries are in, relatively better shape Those that export to the advanced countries are affected by some of their export markets drying up but Prasad points out that consumers in those countries - China for example. - are making, up some of, the difference Plus Prasad says many ...
the new economies, the emerging market countries, are in relatively better shape. those that export to the advanced countries are affected by some of their export markets drying up, but prasad points out that consumers in those countries - china, for example - are making up some of the difference. plus, prasad says, ma...
Most of the emerging markets have a lot more space in terms of their policies, to prime the pump a little bit if needed to stoke their economies.
most of the emerging markets have a lot, more space in terms of their policies to prime the pump a little bit if needed to stoke their,
Most of the emerging markets have a lot more, space in terms of their policies to prime the pump a little bit if needed to stoke. their
most of the emerging markets have a lot more space in terms of their policies, to prime the pump a little bit if needed to stoke their economies.
So the global economic landscape is shifting, and not in ways that benefit the US or Europe. Economists say the powerhouses of the past could struggle for years to return to the prosperity they knew previously, even as new economies rise up to challenge them.
so the, global economic. landscape is shifting and not in ways that. benefit the us or. europe economists say the powerhouses of the past could struggle for years to return to the prosperity they knew previously, even as new economies rise up to challenge
So the global economic landscape is shifting and not in ways that benefit. the US or Europe, Economists say the. powerhouses of the past could struggle for years to return to the prosperity they. knew previously, even as new economies rise up, to challenge;
so the global economic landscape is shifting, and not in ways that benefit the us or europe. economists say the powerhouses of the past could struggle for years to return to the prosperity they knew previously, even as new economies rise up to challenge them.
Tom Gjelten, NPR News, Washington.
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Journalist Anna Badkhen first ventured to Afghanistan weeks after 9/11. Since then, she's returned several times. Her travels have inspired a book entitled "The World Is A Carpet: Four Seasons in an Afghan Village."
journalist anna badkhen first ventured to afghanistan weeks after 9/11. since. then she's, returned several, times her travels have inspired a book entitled "the world is a carpet: four seasons, in an. afghan
Journalist Anna Badkhen first, ventured to Afghanistan weeks after 9/11. Since then she's returned. several times Her travels have inspired a book entitled "The, World Is A Carpet: Four Seasons in an Afghan
journalist anna badkhen first ventured to afghanistan weeks after 9/11. since then, she's returned several times. her travels have inspired a book entitled "the world is a carpet: four seasons in an afghan village."
And what often reads like poetry, the book describes life in a remote village called Oqa, population 240. There, families sustain a living with a local tradition of weaving carpets, earning about 40 cents a day.
and what often reads like poetry the book describes life in a, remote village called oqa population 240. there families, sustain a. living with a local tradition. of weaving carpets earning about 40 cents a
And what often reads like poetry the book describes life in; a remote village called Oqa, population 240. There families sustain a living with a local tradition of weaving carpets earning about 40 cents a
and what often reads like poetry, the book describes life in a remote village called oqa, population 240. there, families sustain a living with a local tradition of weaving carpets, earning about 40 cents a day.
Anna Badkhen spoke to me from member station WBEZ. I began by asking her how she came across Oqa, a village you can't even find on Google Maps.
anna badkhen spoke, to me from member station wbez, i began by asking, her how she came across oqa a village you can't even find on google
Anna Badkhen spoke to me from member station WBEZ I began by asking her how she came across Oqa a village. you can't even find on; Google
anna badkhen spoke to me from member station wbez. i began by asking her how she came across oqa, a village you can't even find on google maps.
Cole believes the Fairbanks area could make a decent target if North Korea's successful missile test ever turned into an attack on the 49th state. The city of some 32,000 people has the Trans-Alaska Pipeline running through it and supports two military bases. Cole doesn't think the North Korean regime is very likely to...
cole believes the fairbanks area could make a. decent target if north korea's successful missile test ever turned into. an attack on the 49th state the city of. some 32,000 people has the trans-alaska pipeline running through it and supports two military bases cole doesn't think the north korean regime is very likely. ...
Cole believes the Fairbanks area. could make a decent, target if North Korea's successful missile test ever turned into, an attack on the 49th state The city of some 32,000 people has the Trans-Alaska Pipeline running. through; it and supports two military bases Cole doesn't think the, North Korean regime is very likel...
cole believes the fairbanks area could make a decent target if north korea's successful missile test ever turned into an attack on the 49th state. the city of some 32,000 people has the trans-alaska pipeline running through it and supports two military bases. cole doesn't think the north korean regime is very likely to...
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They've cleaned it up a little.
they've cleaned it up a little bit.
A little bit later in the hour, we'll be talking about Canadian beef imports and mad cow disease.
a little bit later in the hour we'll be talking about canadian beef imports and mad cow
A little bit later in the hour, we'll be talking about Canadian beef imports and mad cow
a little bit later in the hour, we'll be talking about canadian beef imports and mad cow disease.
last week's announcement that human skin cells can be reprogram to behave like embryonic stem cells have scientists working in the field calling it a spectacular advance and groundbreaking brilliant work. This technique, if perfected, could mean an abundant source of human stem cells that don't require the destruction ...
last week's announcement that, human. skin cells can be. reprogram. to behave like embryonic stem cells have scientists working in the field calling it a spectacular advance and groundbreaking brilliant, work this technique, if perfected could mean an abundant source of, human stem cells that don't require the, destruc...
last week's announcement that human skin. cells can be reprogram to behave like embryonic stem cells have scientists working in, the field calling it a spectacular advance, and groundbreaking brilliant work This technique if perfected could, mean an abundant source of human stem cells that don't require the destruction...
last week's announcement that human skin cells can be reprogram to behave like embryonic stem cells have scientists working in the field calling it a spectacular advance and groundbreaking brilliant work. this technique, if perfected, could mean an abundant source of human stem cells that don't require the destruction ...
This hour, we're going to look at this latest stem cell advance and whether it will settle the debate over research with human embryonic stem cells, or will it bring that debate to a whole new level. We'll also ask about comes next? What kinds of treatments will stem cells lead to? What has to happen to turn these big ...
this hour we're going to look at this latest stem cell advance and whether it will settle the debate over research with human embryonic stem cells or will it bring that debate to a whole new level we'll also ask about comes next? what kinds of treatments will stem cells lead to? what, has to happen to turn these big, d...
This hour. we're going to look at this latest stem cell advance and whether it will settle the debate over research with human embryonic stem cells, or. will it. bring that debate, to a whole new level We'll also ask. about comes next? What kinds of treatments will stem cells. lead to? What has to happen to turn, these...
this hour, we're going to look at this latest stem cell advance and whether it will settle the debate over research with human embryonic stem cells, or will it bring that debate to a whole new level. we'll also ask about comes next? what kinds of treatments will stem cells lead to? what has to happen to turn these big ...
If you'd like to get in on the conversation, our number is 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-TALK. Always, you can surf over to our Web site and you can join a discussion with the folks over in "Second Life" and look for folks with their SCIENCE FRIDAY T-shirts in Science School over there.
if you'd; like to get in on the conversation our number is 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-talk, always you can surf over to our web site and you. can join, a, discussion with the, folks over in "second life" and look for folks with their science friday; t-shirts in science school over
If you'd like to get in on, the conversation our number is, 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-TALK Always you can surf over to our Web, site and, you can join a discussion with the folks over in "Second Life" and look for folks with their SCIENCE, FRIDAY T-shirts in Science School over
if you'd like to get in on the conversation, our number is 1-800-989-8255, 1-800-989-talk. always, you can surf over to our web site and you can join a discussion with the folks over in "second life" and look for folks with their science friday t-shirts in science school over there.
Let me introduce my guests. John Kessler. Dr. Kessler is the Davee professor of neurology, chair of the Department of Neurology and director of Northwestern University Stem Cell Institute at the Feinberg School of Medicine at Northwestern in Chicago. He joins us today from WBEZ in the Windy City.
let me introduce my guests john. kessler dr kessler is the davee professor of neurology, chair, of the department of neurology, and director. of. northwestern university stem cell institute at the feinberg school of medicine. at northwestern. in, chicago he joins us today from, wbez. in the, windy
Let me introduce. my guests John Kessler Dr Kessler is the Davee professor of neurology chair of the Department of. Neurology and, director of Northwestern University Stem Cell Institute at the Feinberg School of Medicine at, Northwestern in Chicago, He joins us today from WBEZ in the Windy
let me introduce my guests. john kessler. dr. kessler is the davee professor of neurology, chair of the department of neurology and director of northwestern university stem cell institute at the feinberg school of medicine at northwestern in chicago. he joins us today from wbez in the windy city.
Welcome to the program, Dr. Kessler.
welcome to the program dr
Welcome to. the program, Dr
welcome to the program, dr. kessler.
Thank you. Good afternoon, Ira.
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Kathy Hudson is the director of the Genetics and Public Policy Center at Johns Hopkins University. And she joins us today from our NPR studios in Washington.
kathy hudson is the director of, the genetics and public policy, center at johns hopkins university, and she joins us today from our npr studios in
Kathy Hudson is the; director. of the Genetics and Public Policy Center at Johns Hopkins University And she joins us today from our NPR studios in
kathy hudson is the director of the genetics and public policy center at johns hopkins university. and she joins us today from our npr studios in washington.
Welcome to the program. Good to have you back, Dr. Hudson.
welcome to the program good to have you back dr
Welcome to the program. Good, to have you, back Dr
welcome to the program. good to have you back, dr. hudson.
Good to be here.
good to be
Good. to, be
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Let's talk about, Dr. Kessler, last week's researchers reporting that they could reprogram skin cells to behave like embryonic stem cell. They're not embryonic stem cells exactly, are they?
let's talk about. dr kessler last week's researchers reporting that they, could reprogram skin cells to behave like embryonic stem cell they're not embryonic stem cells exactly are
Let's talk about Dr Kessler last, week's researchers. reporting that they could reprogram skin cells to behave, like embryonic stem cell They're not, embryonic stem. cells exactly are
let's talk about, dr. kessler, last week's researchers reporting that they could reprogram skin cells to behave like embryonic stem cell. they're not embryonic stem cells exactly, are they?
No, they're not. And that's something that seems to be lost in a lot of the press reports. It really was a very, very exciting breakthrough. It really taught us a lot about how we can take one type of cell and convert it into a cell with a lot of very different potentials. However, the authors of the studies were very ...
no they're not and that's something that. seems to be lost in a lot. of the press reports it really was a very very exciting. breakthrough it. really taught us a lot about how we can take one type of cell and convert it into, a cell with a lot of very different potentials. however the authors of the studies were very, ...
No. they're not And that's something that seems to be. lost in a lot of the press reports It really, was a very very exciting breakthrough It really taught us a lot about how we can take. one type of cell and, convert it into a cell with a lot of, very different potentials However. the authors of the studies were very,...
no, they're not. and that's something that seems to be lost in a lot of the press reports. it really was a very, very exciting breakthrough. it really taught us a lot about how we can take one type of cell and convert it into a cell with a lot of very different potentials. however, the authors of the studies were very ...
Tell us what kind of work you're talking about. What do you mean being safe to be used?
tell us what kind of work you're, talking about what do you mean being safe to be
Tell us what kind, of work you're talking about What do you mean being safe to be
tell us what kind of work you're talking about. what do you mean being safe to be used?
To make these cells, what the researchers did was used viruses to take specific genes and they inserted those genes into the skin cells which converted the cells into cells that are very much like an embryonic stem cell. However, number one, any time you use a virus, you run the risk ultimately of that virus creating p...
to make these cells what the researchers did was. used viruses to take specific genes and they, inserted those genes into the skin cells which converted the cells into cells that are very much like an embryonic stem cell however number one any time you use a, virus you run, the risk ultimately of that; virus creating p...
To make these cells what the researchers did was used viruses to take specific genes and. they inserted those, genes into the skin cells which converted the cells into cells that are very much like an embryonic stem cell However number one any time you use a virus you run the risk ultimately of that virus creating, pro...
to make these cells, what the researchers did was used viruses to take specific genes and they inserted those genes into the skin cells which converted the cells into cells that are very much like an embryonic stem cell. however, number one, any time you use a virus, you run the risk ultimately of that virus creating p...
Mm-hmm. Now, the last time I heard such glowing things said by scientists about research was the human genome project a few years ago, in the deciphering of the human genome. Yeah, we haven't seen very much end up, in so many years, come out of that project yet. Are we getting a little too carried away or a little too ...
mm-hmm now the last time i heard; such glowing things said by scientists. about. research was the human genome project a, few years ago in the, deciphering of. the human, genome yeah we haven't seen very much end. up in so many years. come out of that project yet are, we getting a little too carried away or a little. t...
Mm-hmm Now the last time I heard such glowing things said by. scientists about research was the human genome project a few years ago in, the deciphering of the human genome Yeah we, haven't seen very much end up in so many years come. out of. that project yet Are we getting a little. too carried away or a little, too a...
mm-hmm. now, the last time i heard such glowing things said by scientists about research was the human genome project a few years ago, in the deciphering of the human genome. yeah, we haven't seen very much end up, in so many years, come out of that project yet. are we getting a little too carried away or a little too ...
Well, actually, I would say two things. First, with a respect to the human genome project, we actually, in the scientific world, have seen an enormous amount come out of it. It hasn't yet given us a lot of therapies because from the moment you discover something to the point where you can have it practical therapy for ...
well actually i, would say two things first with a respect. to, the human genome project, we actually in the scientific world have seen an enormous amount come out of it it hasn't yet. given us a lot of therapies because from the moment you, discover something to. the point where you can have it practical therapy for h...
Well actually I would say two, things First with a respect to the human genome project we actually in the scientific world have. seen an enormous amount come out of it It hasn't yet. given us a lot of therapies because from the moment you discover something to. the point where you can have, it practical therapy for hum...
well, actually, i would say two things. first, with a respect to the human genome project, we actually, in the scientific world, have seen an enormous amount come out of it. it hasn't yet given us a lot of therapies because from the moment you discover something to the point where you can have it practical therapy for ...
Mm-hmm.
mm-hmm.
But in fact, the human genome project was really a revolution for us because the sequences that were used, for example, to convert the skin cells came from the human genome project. That's how we knew the human sequences for these genes.
but in fact the human genome; project was really a revolution for us because the sequences that were used for example to convert the skin cells came from the human genome project that's how we knew the human sequences for these
But in fact the. human. genome project was really; a revolution for us because the sequences that, were used for example to convert. the skin cells came from the human genome project That's how we knew the human sequences for these
but in fact, the human genome project was really a revolution for us because the sequences that were used, for example, to convert the skin cells came from the human genome project. that's how we knew the human sequences for these genes.
Mm-hmm.
mm-hmm.
I don't think that this breakthrough has been overhyped in the sense that it really gives us a new way to look at the biology. I think it's a little bit overhyped in thinking that, well, suddenly we've replaced embryonic stem cells. The quote, unquote, "ethical wars" are all over and so forth because they most certainl...
i don't think that; this breakthrough, has been overhyped in the sense that it really gives us a. new. way to look at the biology i think it's a little bit overhyped in thinking that well suddenly we've replaced embryonic stem cells the quote, unquote. "ethical wars" are all over and so forth because they most certainl...
I don't think that this breakthrough has been, overhyped in the sense that it really gives us a new; way to look at the biology I think it's a little bit overhyped in thinking that well suddenly we've replaced embryonic stem cells The quote unquote "ethical. wars" are all, over and so forth because they most certainly ...
i don't think that this breakthrough has been overhyped in the sense that it really gives us a new way to look at the biology. i think it's a little bit overhyped in thinking that, well, suddenly we've replaced embryonic stem cells. the quote, unquote, "ethical wars" are all over and so forth because they most certainl...
Do you agree, Kathy Hudson?
do you agree, kathy
Do you agree Kathy
do you agree, kathy hudson?
Well, I think that the breathless excitement, in this case, is actually warranted because we have solved the very important fundamental problem, in being able to generate cells that are capable of turning into all sorts of cells. And if we can repeat this and have these cells go head to head with embryonic stem cells a...
well i think that the breathless excitement in this case is actually warranted because we have solved the very important fundamental problem in being, able to generate cells that are capable of turning into all, sorts of cells and if we can repeat this and have these cells go head to head with embryonic stem cells and ...
Well I think that; the breathless excitement in this case, is actually warranted because we have solved the very important fundamental problem in being able to generate cells that are, capable of, turning into all sorts of cells And if we can repeat this and have these cells go head to head with embryonic, stem cells, ...
well, i think that the breathless excitement, in this case, is actually warranted because we have solved the very important fundamental problem, in being able to generate cells that are capable of turning into all sorts of cells. and if we can repeat this and have these cells go head to head with embryonic stem cells a...
So I do think that those of us who have been using quote, unquote, "therapeutic cloning, somatic cell nuclear transfer," will not be using that to derive cells for human therapeutics.
so i do think that those of. us who have been using quote unquote "therapeutic cloning somatic cell nuclear transfer" will not be using that to derive cells for human
So I do think that those of us who have been using quote unquote "therapeutic, cloning, somatic cell nuclear transfer" will not be using that to derive, cells for human
so i do think that those of us who have been using quote, unquote, "therapeutic cloning, somatic cell nuclear transfer," will not be using that to derive cells for human therapeutics.
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I want to come in for a minute about the sort of hype question, and you talked about the human genome and maybe stuff not really materializing out of all of that hype and promise. And I think, in fact, that we have seen quite a bit come about as a result of the human genome project. We have over 1,500 - 1,400 genetic t...
i want to come in for a minute about the, sort of hype question and you talked about the human genome and maybe stuff not really materializing out of all of that hype and, promise and i think in fact that we have seen quite a bit come, about, as a result of the human genome project. we, have over 1,500 - 1,400 genetic ...
I want to come in for a minute, about the sort. of hype question and you talked about the human genome and maybe stuff not really materializing out of all of. that hype. and promise And I think in fact that we have seen quite a bit come about as a result of the human genome project We have over 1,500 - 1,400 genetic te...
i want to come in for a minute about the sort of hype question, and you talked about the human genome and maybe stuff not really materializing out of all of that hype and promise. and i think, in fact, that we have seen quite a bit come about as a result of the human genome project. we have over 1,500 - 1,400 genetic t...
I agree that therapeutics are much slower to come along. And I think for stem cells, for genomics, for most areas of biology, we need to sort of separate the enthusiasm about a new way of understanding biology and how it works from the time it takes to translate that into something that can be put in a pill and cure wh...
i agree that therapeutics are much, slower to come along and i think for stem cells for genomics for most areas of biology we need to sort of. separate. the enthusiasm about a new way of understanding biology and how it works from the time it takes to translate that into something that can, be put in, a pill and cure w...
I agree that therapeutics are much slower to come along And I. think for stem cells for genomics for most areas of biology we need to sort of separate the, enthusiasm, about a new way of understanding biology and how it works from the time it takes to translate that into; something that can be put in a pill and cure. w...
i agree that therapeutics are much slower to come along. and i think for stem cells, for genomics, for most areas of biology, we need to sort of separate the enthusiasm about a new way of understanding biology and how it works from the time it takes to translate that into something that can be put in a pill and cure wh...
So you think similarly in this case that you first - real information will come out of studying the cells themselves instead of the therapeutic results?
so you think similarly in this case that you first - real information will come out of studying the; cells themselves instead of the therapeutic
So you think similarly in this, case that you first - real information will come out of studying the cells themselves instead, of the therapeutic
so you think similarly in this case that you first - real information will come out of studying the cells themselves instead of the therapeutic results?
You know, I'm a developmental biologist by training, and I think it's just completely remarkable that you can take four genes or actually maybe only two genes and put them in a fully differentiated skin cell and get them to behave like they're starting all anew. And so that's going to give us incredible insights into, ...
you know. i'm a developmental, biologist by. training and i think it's just completely remarkable that you can take four genes or actually maybe only two genes and put. them in a fully differentiated skin cell and get them to behave like they're starting all anew and so that's going to give us incredible insights into ...
You know I'm a developmental biologist by training and I think it's just completely remarkable. that you can, take four genes or actually maybe only two genes and put them in a fully differentiated skin, cell and get them to behave like they're starting all anew And so that's going to give us incredible insights into y...
you know, i'm a developmental biologist by training, and i think it's just completely remarkable that you can take four genes or actually maybe only two genes and put them in a fully differentiated skin cell and get them to behave like they're starting all anew. and so that's going to give us incredible insights into, ...
Let me poke that a bit more. Why would we have genes that can turn our skin cell back into the equivalent of starting over again?
let me poke that a bit more why would we have. genes. that can turn our, skin cell back into the equivalent of, starting over
Let me poke that, a bit more Why would we have genes that can turn our skin cell back into the equivalent of starting over
let me poke that a bit more. why would we have genes that can turn our skin cell back into the equivalent of starting over again?
Well, I hope that this…
well i hope that,
Well I hope that
well, i hope that this…
Well, they weren't put there for that reason.
well they weren't put. there for that
Well, they, weren't put there for that
well, they weren't put there for that reason.
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So why would we have - why would do they exist?
so why would we have - why would do they
So why would we have - why would do they
so why would we have - why would do they exist?
Those are the genes…
those are the.
Those are the
those are the genes…
So, John, you want to take that.
so john you want to take
So, John you want to take
so, john, you want to take that.
Yeah, those are the genes that exist that enable us to develop an organism in the first place. I remember the embryonic stem cell is derived from very early embryos and then those genes that are expressed at that point in time that gives them the properties to allow the cells to go create a whole animal. So those genes...
yeah those. are the genes that exist that enable us, to. develop an organism. in the first place i remember the embryonic stem cell is derived from very early. embryos and then those genes that are expressed at that point in time that gives them the properties to allow the cells to go create a whole animal so those gen...
Yeah those are the genes that exist that enable us to develop; an organism in the. first place I remember the embryonic stem cell, is derived from very early embryos and then those, genes that are expressed, at that point in time that gives them the properties to allow the cells to go create a whole animal So those gen...
yeah, those are the genes that exist that enable us to develop an organism in the first place. i remember the embryonic stem cell is derived from very early embryos and then those genes that are expressed at that point in time that gives them the properties to allow the cells to go create a whole animal. so those genes...
Mm-hmm. So they're there just, you know - once they've done their job, they are dormant.
mm-hmm so they're there just you know, - once they've done their job. they. are
Mm-hmm So they're there just you know - once they've done, their job, they; are
mm-hmm. so they're there just, you know - once they've done their job, they are dormant.
So once they've done their job, they are largely turned off. And…
so once. they've done their job they are largely turned off
So once they've done their job they are largely turned off;
so once they've done their job, they are largely turned off. and…
Mm-hmm.
mm-hmm.
…the point of this was by turning those genes back on, you can make the cell look like it's a very early embryonic stem cell.
…the point of this was by turning those genes back on you can make the cell look like it's a very early embryonic stem
…the point of this was by turning those genes back on you can, make the. cell, look like it's a very early embryonic stem
…the point of this was by turning those genes back on, you can make the cell look like it's a very early embryonic stem cell.
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i think one of the
I think one of the
i think one of the comments…
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…you've heard before is very important…
…you've heard before is, very
…you've heard before is very
…you've heard before is very important…
Yeah.
yeah.
…about these cells have to go head to head now with the embryonic stem cell.
…about these cells have to go head to head now with the embryonic stem
…about. these cells have to go head to. head now with the. embryonic stem
…about these cells have to go head to head now with the embryonic stem cell.
Hmm.
hmm.
And I think we all agree with that. It's - this comparison is going to be very necessary, which means by a priori we can't stop working with the embryonic stem cell. Some people seem to believe that, now, we don't have to do anymore embryonic stem cell work. In fact, we do. We have - those will be the gold standard by ...
and. i think we all agree with that it's - this, comparison is going to be very necessary which means by a priori we can't, stop working with the embryonic stem cell some people seem to believe, that now. we don't have. to do anymore. embryonic stem cell work in fact we do we have - those will be the gold standard by w...
And I think we all. agree with that It's - this comparison is going to be very, necessary which, means by a priori we can't stop working with the, embryonic stem cell Some people seem to believe that now we don't have to do anymore embryonic stem cell work In fact, we do We, have - those will. be the. gold. standard by...
and i think we all agree with that. it's - this comparison is going to be very necessary, which means by a priori we can't stop working with the embryonic stem cell. some people seem to believe that, now, we don't have to do anymore embryonic stem cell work. in fact, we do. we have - those will be the gold standard by ...
Mm-hmm. And go - I'm sorry.
mm-hmm and go - i'm
Mm-hmm And. go - I'm,
mm-hmm. and go - i'm sorry.
I was going to ask John. Do you think that we need to derive new embryonic stem cell lines in order to do that comparison?
i was going to ask john do you think that we need to derive new embryonic stem cell lines in order to do that
I, was going to ask John Do you think that we need to derive. new embryonic stem cell lines, in order to do that
i was going to ask john. do you think that we need to derive new embryonic stem cell lines in order to do that comparison?
Well, that will depend a little bit on how the field progresses. It will depend a little bit upon the characteristics of the cells which we're using for comparison. I…
well. that will depend a little bit on how the field. progresses it will depend a little bit upon the characteristics. of the, cells which we're. using for comparison,
Well that will depend a little bit on how the field progresses It will depend a little, bit upon the characteristics of the cells which we're using for comparison
well, that will depend a little bit on how the field progresses. it will depend a little bit upon the characteristics of the cells which we're using for comparison. i…
Mm-hmm.
mm-hmm.
…would guess that there's no need immediately to be deriving new cell lines except from perhaps, from people, for example, who have various genetic diseases in which studying the embryonic stem cell with those various disorders might be very, very useful.
…would guess that there's no need immediately to be deriving new cell lines except from perhaps from, people for example who have. various genetic diseases in, which studying the embryonic stem cell. with those various disorders might. be very very
…would guess that there's no need. immediately to be deriving new; cell lines except from perhaps from people for example who have various, genetic diseases in which studying the embryonic stem cell with those various disorders might be very, very;
…would guess that there's no need immediately to be deriving new cell lines except from perhaps, from people, for example, who have various genetic diseases in which studying the embryonic stem cell with those various disorders might be very, very useful.
There - one of those advantages being talked about with this new technique is that you can use cells from the same person so that whatever cells are produced is not rejected by that person. Would that also be true of embryonic stem cells?
there. - one of those advantages. being talked about with this new, technique is that you can use cells from the same person so that whatever; cells are. produced is not rejected by that person would that. also be true of embryonic stem
There - one of those advantages being talked about with this new technique is that you can use cells from the same person so that whatever cells are produced is. not rejected by that person Would that also be true of embryonic, stem
there - one of those advantages being talked about with this new technique is that you can use cells from the same person so that whatever cells are produced is not rejected by that person. would that also be true of embryonic stem cells?
Well, the only way that that would have happened with the embryonic stem cell was to use what was the other major controversy in the field, something that was called therapeutic cloning or somatic cell nuclear transfer…
well the only way that that would have happened with the, embryonic stem, cell was to use. what was, the other major controversy. in the field something that was called therapeutic cloning or somatic cell nuclear
Well the only way that that would have happened with, the embryonic stem cell was, to use what was the, other major controversy in the. field something that was called therapeutic cloning; or somatic cell nuclear,
well, the only way that that would have happened with the embryonic stem cell was to use what was the other major controversy in the field, something that was called therapeutic cloning or somatic cell nuclear transfer…
Mm-hmm.
mm-hmm.
…where you took a nucleus, for example, from a person's skin cell and put it into an egg cell and then use that to derive new embryonic stem cell. This, of course, is very much more exciting because now we can think about taking, just taking the DNA directly, the skin cell, leave it with its nucleus in it and convert i...
…where you. took a nucleus for example from a person's skin cell and; put it into an egg cell and then use that to derive new embryonic stem cell this of course is very much more exciting because now we can. think about taking just taking the dna directly the skin cell; leave it with its nucleus in it and convert it to...
…where you took a nucleus for example, from a, person's skin cell. and put it into an egg cell and then use that to derive new embryonic stem cell This of course is very. much, more exciting because now we can think about taking just taking the DNA directly the skin cell leave it with its nucleus in it and convert it t...
…where you took a nucleus, for example, from a person's skin cell and put it into an egg cell and then use that to derive new embryonic stem cell. this, of course, is very much more exciting because now we can think about taking, just taking the dna directly, the skin cell, leave it with its nucleus in it and convert i...
So you think that the money that would be going into that is now going - we'll be going into this new technique?
so you think that the money that would. be going into that is now going - we'll be; going into this, new
So you think that the money that would be going into, that is now going - we'll be going; into this new
so you think that the money that would be going into that is now going - we'll be going into this new technique?
Yes, I do.
yes i
Yes I
yes, i do.
Mm-hmm. And supposedly from what I read, the University of Wisconsin is not going to claim patent rights to this or demand royalties from people who use it.
mm-hmm and supposedly from what i read the university of wisconsin is not going to claim patent rights to this, or demand royalties from people who use
Mm-hmm And supposedly from what I read the University of Wisconsin is not going to claim patent rights to this, or demand royalties from people who use
mm-hmm. and supposedly from what i read, the university of wisconsin is not going to claim patent rights to this or demand royalties from people who use it.
Well, first, I would like to point out that the really exciting paper in this field came out a year ago and it came out from Dr. Yamanaka's laboratory, where he proved in principle that you could convert these cells.
well first i would like to point out that the really exciting paper in this field. came out a year ago and it came out, from dr yamanaka's laboratory where he proved in principle that you, could, convert these
Well first I would like to point out that the, really. exciting paper in this field came out, a; year ago and it came out. from Dr Yamanaka's laboratory where he proved in principle that you could convert these
well, first, i would like to point out that the really exciting paper in this field came out a year ago and it came out from dr. yamanaka's laboratory, where he proved in principle that you could convert these cells.
The excitement about the two papers that just came out now was that it was in human cells and his first paper was with the mouse cells., so it's not certainly clear to me that Wisconsin would be able to claim any kind of priority anyway.
the excitement about the two papers that. just came, out now was that it was in human cells and his first paper was with the mouse cells., so. it's not certainly clear to; me that wisconsin would be able to claim any, kind of priority
The excitement about the two. papers that just came out now was that it was in human, cells and his first paper was, with the mouse cells., so it's, not certainly clear to me that Wisconsin would be, able to claim any kind of, priority
the excitement about the two papers that just came out now was that it was in human cells and his first paper was with the mouse cells., so it's not certainly clear to me that wisconsin would be able to claim any kind of priority anyway.
So that would just like ignite.
so that would just, like
So that would just like
so that would just like ignite.
Well, they also recently lost a patent dispute in court, which I'm sure they will appeal about the basic patent on embryonic stem cells. And they've created that this controversy because there are those people who have felt that those patents have helped to delay the field a bit. So I think there's been a lot of pressu...
well they also recently lost a, patent dispute in court which i'm sure they will appeal about the basic patent on embryonic. stem cells and they've created that this controversy because there are those people who have felt; that those patents have helped to delay the field a bit so i think there's been a lot of pressur...
Well they also recently lost a patent dispute in court which I'm sure they will appeal about the. basic patent on embryonic stem cells And they've created that this controversy because there are those people who have felt, that those patents have helped to delay the field a bit So I think there's been. a lot of. pressu...
well, they also recently lost a patent dispute in court, which i'm sure they will appeal about the basic patent on embryonic stem cells. and they've created that this controversy because there are those people who have felt that those patents have helped to delay the field a bit. so i think there's been a lot of pressu...
Kathy Hudson, you would agree?
kathy hudson you would
Kathy Hudson you would
kathy hudson, you would agree?
Yes. You know, the important thing here - and John mentioned this -is both from somatic cell nuclear transfer, we have these very thorny ethical issues with both destroying embryos in order to get the stem cells, but also the issue of where did the oocytes come from and whether or not women would potentially be coerced...
yes you know the important thing here - and john mentioned. this -is, both from somatic, cell nuclear transfer we have these very thorny ethical issues with both destroying embryos in order to get the, stem cells. but also, the issue of where did the oocytes come from and whether or not women would potentially be coerc...
Yes You know the important thing here - and John mentioned. this -is both from somatic cell nuclear transfer we have. these very thorny ethical issues with both destroying embryos in order to get the stem cells but also the. issue of where, did, the oocytes come from and whether or not women would potentially be coerce...
yes. you know, the important thing here - and john mentioned this -is both from somatic cell nuclear transfer, we have these very thorny ethical issues with both destroying embryos in order to get the stem cells, but also the issue of where did the oocytes come from and whether or not women would potentially be coerced...
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We're talking this hour about stem cell research and policy with Kathy Hudson, director of the genetics and public policy center at the Johns Hopkins University - this office is located in Washington; Dr. John Kessler, the Davee professor of neurology and director of Northwestern University Stem Cell Institute at North...
we're talking this hour about stem cell research and policy with kathy hudson director of the. genetics and public policy center at the johns hopkins university - this office is located in washington dr john kessler, the davee professor of neurology and director of northwestern university stem cell institute at northwe...
We're talking this hour about, stem cell research and policy with Kathy Hudson director of the, genetics and public policy center at the Johns Hopkins University - this office is located in Washington Dr John; Kessler the Davee professor of neurology and director of Northwestern University Stem Cell Institute at Northw...
we're talking this hour about stem cell research and policy with kathy hudson, director of the genetics and public policy center at the johns hopkins university - this office is located in washington; dr. john kessler, the davee professor of neurology and director of northwestern university stem cell institute at north...
1-800-989-8255. I'm a little confused, and maybe my listeners are bit confused about it. Dr. Kessler, you're saying on one hand, we still have to do more research in the old-fashioned embryonic stem cell line, on the other hand, more - the money is not going there. Can you tweeze that out a little bit for me?
1-800-989-8255. i'm a little confused and maybe, my listeners are. bit. confused about it dr. kessler you're saying, on one hand we still have to do more research in the old-fashioned embryonic stem cell line on the other hand more - the money is not going there can you tweeze that. out a. little bit for
1-800-989-8255. I'm a little confused and maybe my listeners, are bit confused, about. it Dr Kessler; you're saying on one hand we still have to do more research in the old-fashioned embryonic stem cell line. on the other hand more - the money is not going there Can you, tweeze that out a little bit for,
1-800-989-8255. i'm a little confused, and maybe my listeners are bit confused about it. dr. kessler, you're saying on one hand, we still have to do more research in the old-fashioned embryonic stem cell line, on the other hand, more - the money is not going there. can you tweeze that out a little bit for me?
Well, first, you asked me the question, specifically, about so-called therapeutic cloning, and I think there's less money likely to go that route because this, I think, is a substitute for that. But with respect to the embryonic stem cell itself, it will be the gold standard by which we judge these new cells. We are go...
well first you asked me the question specifically about so-called therapeutic cloning. and i think; there's less money likely to go that route because this i think is a substitute for that. but with respect to the embryonic stem cell itself it will be the gold standard by which we judge. these, new cells we are going t...
Well first you asked me the question. specifically about so-called therapeutic cloning and I think there's less money likely to go. that route because this I think is a, substitute for that But with, respect to the embryonic stem cell itself it will be the gold standard by which we judge these new cells. We are going t...
well, first, you asked me the question, specifically, about so-called therapeutic cloning, and i think there's less money likely to go that route because this, i think, is a substitute for that. but with respect to the embryonic stem cell itself, it will be the gold standard by which we judge these new cells. we are go...
I happen to believe they will. I happen to think that this will supplant deriving new embryonic stem cells from embryos, but of course that remains to be proven.
i happen to believe they will, i happen to think that this will supplant deriving new embryonic stem, cells from embryos but of course that remains to be
I happen to believe. they will I happen to think that this will supplant deriving new embryonic stem cells, from, embryos. but of course that remains to be
i happen to believe they will. i happen to think that this will supplant deriving new embryonic stem cells from embryos, but of course that remains to be proven.
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But there will be new - new ethical issues will arise.
but there will be new - new ethical issues will
But. there will be new - new ethical issues will
but there will be new - new ethical issues will arise.
Well, that's what I want to talk about. Yeah, go ahead.
well that's. what i want to, talk about yeah. go
Well that's what, I want to talk about Yeah go
well, that's what i want to talk about. yeah, go ahead.
Well, for example, there's reason to believe now that it may be possible to reprogram a skin cell so that it's identical to a fertilized egg. Well, then what do we have? And all those people who felt that a cell that had the capacity to generate a whole, you know, a whole animal by its splits equivalent to being a huma...
well, for, example there's reason to believe now that it may be possible to reprogram a skin cell so that it's identical to a fertilized egg well then what do we have? and all those people who felt. that a cell that had the capacity to generate a whole you know a; whole animal by, its splits equivalent to being a human...
Well for example there's. reason to believe now that it may be possible to reprogram a skin cell so that it's identical to, a fertilized egg Well then. what do we have? And all those people who felt; that a cell that had the capacity to generate a whole you; know a. whole animal by its splits equivalent to being a huma...
well, for example, there's reason to believe now that it may be possible to reprogram a skin cell so that it's identical to a fertilized egg. well, then what do we have? and all those people who felt that a cell that had the capacity to generate a whole, you know, a whole animal by its splits equivalent to being a huma...
Kathy Hudson, do you agree?
kathy hudson do, you
Kathy; Hudson do you
kathy hudson, do you agree?
I do. I think that these cells have enormous promise. I think we don't have to do a whole lot of more additional research in somatic cell nuclear transfer. But I think that there are very important issues, and this was mentioned early on with the viruses that are used in order to reprogram these cells, in at least the ...
i do i think that these cells have enormous promise i think. we don't have to do a whole lot of more additional research in somatic cell nuclear transfer but. i think, that there are very important issues and this was mentioned early on with the viruses that are used in. order to reprogram these cells in at least the p...
I do I think that these cells have enormous promise; I think we don't have to do a whole lot of more. additional research in somatic. cell nuclear transfer But I think that there are, very important issues. and this was mentioned, early on with the viruses that are used in order to reprogram these cells in at least the...
i do. i think that these cells have enormous promise. i think we don't have to do a whole lot of more additional research in somatic cell nuclear transfer. but i think that there are very important issues, and this was mentioned early on with the viruses that are used in order to reprogram these cells, in at least the ...