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Well, Bush officials have called it one of the most valuable programs in the war on terror. But this report says, it is difficult to attribute the success of particular counterterrorism cases exclusively to this program. It also says the program generally played a limited role in the FBI's counterterrorism efforts. | well bush officials have called it one of, the most valuable programs in the. war on terror but this report says. it, is difficult to attribute the success of particular counterterrorism, cases exclusively; to this program it also says the program generally played a limited, role in the fbi's counterterrorism | Well Bush officials have called, it one of the. most valuable programs, in the war on terror But this report says it is difficult to attribute the, success, of particular counterterrorism cases exclusively to. this program It also says. the program generally played a limited role, in the. FBI's counterterrorism | well, bush officials have called it one of the most valuable programs in the war on terror. but this report says, it is difficult to attribute the success of particular counterterrorism cases exclusively to this program. it also says the program generally played a limited role in the fbi's counterterrorism efforts. |
Thanks. | thanks. | ||
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Hello, Steven. | hello | Hello | hello, steven. |
Hey, what's going on? | hey what's going | Hey what's going | hey, what's going on? |
The co-chairs of the independent commission investigating 9/11, Republican Tom Kean and Democrat Lee Hamilton, issued a statement saying the response to Katrina showed those lessons had not been learned. Smith compares elements of the controversy surrounding this latest hurricane to how the first P... | the co-chairs of the independent commission investigating. 9/11, republican tom kean and. democrat lee hamilton issued a statement saying the response to katrina showed those lessons had not been learned smith compares elements of the controversy. surrounding this latest hurricane to how. the first... | The co-chairs of the independent commission investigating 9/11, Republican Tom Kean and Democrat, Lee Hamilton, issued a statement saying the, response to Katrina showed those. lessons had not been learned Smith compares elements of the controversy surrounding this latest hurricane to how the first... | the co-chairs of the independent commission investigating 9/11, republican tom kean and democrat lee hamilton, issued a statement saying the response to katrina showed those lessons had not been learned. smith compares elements of the controversy surrounding this latest hurricane to how the first p... |
Part of the legal framework which governs the activities of the federal government, particularly the military, places certain restrictions on the way they can used in the United States. Part of that's because our constitutional system really places the primary authority in each state with the ... | part of the legal framework which. governs the activities of the federal government. particularly the military places certain. restrictions on the way they can used, in the united states part of that's because our constitutional system really places the primary authority; in each state with th... | Part of, the legal framework. which governs the activities of the federal government particularly, the, military places certain restrictions on, the way they can used in the United; States Part, of that's because our constitutional system really places the primary authority in each, state with... | part of the legal framework which governs the activities of the federal government, particularly the military, places certain restrictions on the way they can used in the united states. part of that's because our constitutional system really places the primary authority in each state with the ... |
A powerful example of how a natural disaster can alter the politics of a region can be seen in the Florida of the 1920s. At the time, the state was not yet a tourism giant, and like the rest of the South, it voted Democratic in presidential elections. But in 1926 and '28, Florida was hit by two de... | a powerful example, of how. a natural disaster can, alter the politics; of a, region can be seen in the florida of the 1920s at the time the state was not yet a tourism giant and like the, rest of the, south it voted democratic in presidential elections but in, 1926 and '28, florida was hit by two... | A, powerful example of how a natural, disaster can alter the politics of a region can be seen in the Florida of the 1920s, At the time the state was not yet a tourism giant. and like the rest of the South it voted Democratic in presidential elections But in 1926 and '28, Florida was hit by two. de... | a powerful example of how a natural disaster can alter the politics of a region can be seen in the florida of the 1920s. at the time, the state was not yet a tourism giant, and like the rest of the south, it voted democratic in presidential elections. but in 1926 and '28, florida was hit by two de... |
This is a situation which is probably the most fundamental thing that the government does. It protects people's houses and property and lives. | this is a situation, which, is probably the most fundamental thing that, the government does it protects people's, houses and property and | This is a, situation which is probably the, most fundamental thing that the government does It protects people's. houses and property and | this is a situation which is probably the most fundamental thing that the government does. it protects people's houses and property and lives. |
President Bush, of course, doesn't have to face re-election and the next test of his influence at the ballot box will be the midterm elections for Congress 14 months away. But more immediately, if his current low approval ratings in polls persist, he could find himself without the political momentu... | president bush of course doesn't, have to face re-election. and the next. test of his influence at the ballot box will be the midterm, elections for congress 14 months away but more immediately if his current low approval, ratings in. polls persist he could find himself, without the political momen... | President Bush. of course doesn't have, to face. re-election and the next test of his influence at the, ballot box, will be, the midterm elections for. Congress 14 months away But more immediately if his current low approval ratings in polls persist he, could find himself. without the political mom... | president bush, of course, doesn't have to face re-election and the next test of his influence at the ballot box will be the midterm elections for congress 14 months away. but more immediately, if his current low approval ratings in polls persist, he could find himself without the political momentu... |
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Sometimes, big national issues like immigration and terrorism can reach into the tiniest communities. The residents of twin towns along the Vermont-Canada border are experiencing this now. For over a century, local residents on both sides have shared a library, using back streets to get to it. The U.S. Border Patrol no... | sometimes big national issues like immigration and terrorism can, reach into the tiniest communities the residents of twin. towns along the vermont-canada border are experiencing this now for over a century local residents on both sides have shared a library using, back streets to get to it the u.s border, patrol now w... | Sometimes big national issues like immigration and terrorism can reach, into the tiniest communities The residents of twin towns along the Vermont-Canada, border are experiencing this now For over a century local residents on both sides have shared a library using back streets to get to; it. The U.S Border Patrol now w... | sometimes, big national issues like immigration and terrorism can reach into the tiniest communities. the residents of twin towns along the vermont-canada border are experiencing this now. for over a century, local residents on both sides have shared a library, using back streets to get to it. the u.s. border patrol no... |
Charlotte Albright has our report. | charlotte, albright has our | Charlotte Albright has our | charlotte albright has our report. |
Over a century ago, the elegant high school library and opera house was built right on the U.S.-Canada boundary to foster international friendship. Literally, the border runs right through it. Martin Drysdale(ph) is Canadian. Every other week, she and her drive or walk to Derby Line, Vermont from Stansted, Quebec to bo... | over a century ago the, elegant, high school library and opera house was built right. on the, u.s.-canada boundary to foster international, friendship literally the border runs right through it, martin drysdale(ph) is canadian every other week she and her drive or. walk to derby line vermont, from stansted quebec to bo... | Over a century ago the elegant high school library, and opera house was built right on the U.S.-Canada boundary to foster international friendship Literally the border runs. right through it Martin Drysdale(ph) is Canadian Every other week she and her drive or walk to Derby Line Vermont from Stansted Quebec to, borrow ... | over a century ago, the elegant high school library and opera house was built right on the u.s.-canada boundary to foster international friendship. literally, the border runs right through it. martin drysdale(ph) is canadian. every other week, she and her drive or walk to derby line, vermont from stansted, quebec to bo... |
And actually, we bring vegetation and, which I shouldn't be saying. | and actually. we bring vegetation and which i shouldn't be | And actually we bring vegetation and which; I shouldn't, be | and actually, we bring vegetation and, which i shouldn't be saying. |
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Under the proposed plan, cars would be banned and even pedestrians might have to pass through a barrier and that's got Drysdale upset. | under the proposed plan cars would be banned and even pedestrians might have to pass. through a barrier and, that's got drysdale | Under the proposed plan cars would be banned and even pedestrians might have to pass through a barrier and that's got Drysdale | under the proposed plan, cars would be banned and even pedestrians might have to pass through a barrier and that's got drysdale upset. |
I would really not be happy. This is so comfortable. Why start setting up barriers? You create barriers, you create tension. | i would really not be happy, this is, so comfortable why start setting up barriers? you create barriers you create | I would really not be happy This is. so comfortable Why start setting up barriers? You create barriers, you create | i would really not be happy. this is so comfortable. why start setting up barriers? you create barriers, you create tension. |
In the library, stacks are on the Canadian side, with half the books in English, half in French for the Francophones and neighboring Stansted. This is their only library. Drysdale fears those books will gather dust and some opera sits upstairs will go empty if getting here gets what's convenient. | in the library stacks are on the canadian side with half the books in english half in french; for. the francophones and neighboring stansted, this is their only library drysdale, fears those books will gather dust and some opera sits upstairs will go empty if getting here gets what's | In the. library stacks, are on the Canadian side with half the books, in English half in French for the Francophones and neighboring Stansted This, is their only library Drysdale, fears those books will gather dust, and some opera sits upstairs will go empty. if getting here gets, what's | in the library, stacks are on the canadian side, with half the books in english, half in french for the francophones and neighboring stansted. this is their only library. drysdale fears those books will gather dust and some opera sits upstairs will go empty if getting here gets what's convenient. |
Inside as patrons browse through a book sale, village trustee and library board member Keith Beetle(ph) walks from the front entrance on the American side towards the circulation desks on a famous well-worn strip of black tape. | inside as patrons browse through a book, sale village trustee and library board member keith beetle(ph) walks from the front; entrance on the american side towards the circulation desks on a famous well-worn strip of black. | Inside as, patrons browse through a book sale village trustee and library, board member Keith Beetle(ph) walks from. the front entrance, on the American side towards the circulation desks on a famous well-worn. strip of black | inside as patrons browse through a book sale, village trustee and library board member keith beetle(ph) walks from the front entrance on the american side towards the circulation desks on a famous well-worn strip of black tape. |
You have the black line here on the floor shows you where you are. | you have the black line here on the. floor shows you where you | You have the black line here on the floor shows you where you | you have the black line here on the floor shows you where you are. |
So now, where are we? | so now where are | So now where are, | so now, where are we? |
We're in Canada. | we're in | We're in | we're in canada. |
We have technically crossed the border illegally, that's what's bothering the Border Patrol, who want better surveillance on small streets like this one that leads to the library. Upstairs in the opera house, Beetle points out more black tape, marking the international border somewhere around row M. Beetle is a former ... | we, have technically crossed the border illegally that's what's bothering. the border patrol who want better surveillance on small streets like. this one that leads to. the. library upstairs in the opera house beetle points out more black tape marking the international, border somewhere around row, m beetle is a former... | We have, technically crossed the border illegally that's what's bothering, the Border Patrol who want better surveillance on small streets like this one that. leads to the library Upstairs in the opera house Beetle points out more black tape marking the international border somewhere around row, M Beetle. is a former B... | we have technically crossed the border illegally, that's what's bothering the border patrol, who want better surveillance on small streets like this one that leads to the library. upstairs in the opera house, beetle points out more black tape, marking the international border somewhere around row m. beetle is a former ... |
Earlier this year, Border Patrol say they apprehended 21 illegal aliens crossing the border in a van. But Beetle says, closing these streets is unlikely to stop illegal crossing along this porous border and will threaten the heritage of Derby Line. | earlier this year border patrol, say they apprehended 21 illegal aliens crossing the border in a van; but beetle says closing. these streets is unlikely to stop illegal crossing along this porous border and will threaten the heritage of derby | Earlier this year Border Patrol say they apprehended 21 illegal aliens crossing the border in a van But Beetle says closing these streets is unlikely to stop illegal crossing along this, porous border and will threaten the heritage of Derby | earlier this year, border patrol say they apprehended 21 illegal aliens crossing the border in a van. but beetle says, closing these streets is unlikely to stop illegal crossing along this porous border and will threaten the heritage of derby line. |
And I guess we have to ask ourselves, are we willing to sacrifice our character, our individuality, the things that we treasure in these two villages in the sake of alleged security? | and i guess we have to. ask ourselves. are we willing to sacrifice our character, our individuality the things that we treasure in these two villages in the. sake of alleged, | And I guess we have to ask ourselves are we willing, to sacrifice our character. our individuality, the, things that we treasure in these two villages in. the sake of, alleged | and i guess we have to ask ourselves, are we willing to sacrifice our character, our individuality, the things that we treasure in these two villages in the sake of alleged security? |
There are also concerns about what these changes will do to cross-border social life. Tish Labaree is visiting the library from Connecticut, where she lives now. She was born in Newport, Vermont, 50 years ago to Canadian parents, who now live across the border in Quebec. As a child, she remembers easily going back and ... | there are also concerns about what, these changes will do to cross-border social life tish labaree is visiting, the library from connecticut where she lives now she. was born in newport vermont 50 years ago to canadian parents who now live across the border in quebec as a. child she remembers easily going. back and for... | There are also concerns about what these changes. will do. to cross-border social life Tish Labaree is visiting the library from Connecticut where she lives now She was born in Newport Vermont 50 years ago to Canadian, parents who now. live across, the border in. Quebec As a child she remembers easily going back and fo... | there are also concerns about what these changes will do to cross-border social life. tish labaree is visiting the library from connecticut, where she lives now. she was born in newport, vermont, 50 years ago to canadian parents, who now live across the border in quebec. as a child, she remembers easily going back and ... |
You were either go in to someone's house for lunch or you were coming over to pick something up, and it was just an ease of travel. It wasn't � you weren't going to a foreign country. | you were either go in to. someone's house for lunch or you were coming over to pick something up and, it was just an ease of travel it wasn't � you weren't going to a foreign | You were either go in to. someone's house for lunch or you were coming over to pick something, up and it was just. an ease of, travel It wasn't � you weren't going to, a foreign. | you were either go in to someone's house for lunch or you were coming over to pick something up, and it was just an ease of travel. it wasn't � you weren't going to a foreign country. |
Labaree says her aging parents are so intimidated by increasingly probing checkpoints that they now think twice about visiting their American friends. | labaree says her aging parents are, so intimidated by increasingly probing checkpoints that. they now think twice about visiting their american, | Labaree says her aging parents are so intimidated by increasingly probing; checkpoints that they now think twice about; visiting. their American | labaree says her aging parents are so intimidated by increasingly probing checkpoints that they now think twice about visiting their american friends. |
For NPR News, I'm Charlotte Albright in northern Vermont. | for npr news i'm charlotte albright in northern. | For NPR News, I'm, Charlotte Albright in northern | for npr news, i'm charlotte albright in northern vermont. |
The U.S. Border Patrol declined interviews for Charlotte Albright's story. Officials said they prefer to make their views known later this week at a public meeting on the new border procedures. | the u.s border, patrol declined interviews for charlotte albright's story officials said they prefer to make their views. known later this week at a public meeting on the new border | The U.S Border; Patrol declined interviews for Charlotte Albright's story Officials said they prefer to make their views known, later this week at a public meeting, on the new border | the u.s. border patrol declined interviews for charlotte albright's story. officials said they prefer to make their views known later this week at a public meeting on the new border procedures. |
This is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Robert Siegel. | this is all things considered from npr. news. i'm robert | This is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News I'm Robert | this is all things considered from npr news. i'm robert siegel. |
Acclaimed photographer Steven Sebring followed her over for more than 10 years to complete his first documentary. It's called "Patti Smith: Dream of Life". The director and his subject join us in just a moment. If you'd like to talk with Patti Smith about her music, her art or the culture of rock and roll, give us a ca... | acclaimed photographer steven sebring followed her over for more than 10 years to complete his first documentary, it's called "patti, smith: dream of life". the director and his subject join us in just a moment if you'd like to talk with patti smith about her music her art or the culture of rock, and roll give us a cal... | Acclaimed photographer Steven Sebring followed her over, for more than 10 years to complete his first documentary It's called "Patti Smith: Dream of Life". The director, and his subject join us. in just a moment, If you'd like to talk with Patti Smith about her music her, art or the culture of rock and roll give us a c... | acclaimed photographer steven sebring followed her over for more than 10 years to complete his first documentary. it's called "patti smith: dream of life". the director and his subject join us in just a moment. if you'd like to talk with patti smith about her music, her art or the culture of rock and roll, give us a ca... |
Later in the program, President Obama has acknowledged that a systemic failure allowed a would-be suicide bomber aboard a transatlantic flight to Detroit on Christmas. Who should be held accountable? But first, Patti Smith and Steven Sebring join us from our bureau in New York. And thanks so very much for being with us... | later in the program president obama has acknowledged that a systemic failure; allowed a would-be suicide bomber aboard a transatlantic, flight to detroit on christmas who should be held, accountable? but first patti smith and steven sebring join us from our bureau in new, york and, thanks so, very much for being with ... | Later in the program President Obama has acknowledged that a systemic failure allowed a would-be suicide bomber aboard a transatlantic flight to Detroit on, Christmas Who should be held accountable? But first, Patti, Smith and Steven Sebring join us. from our. bureau in New York And thanks so very much for being with u... | later in the program, president obama has acknowledged that a systemic failure allowed a would-be suicide bomber aboard a transatlantic flight to detroit on christmas. who should be held accountable? but first, patti smith and steven sebring join us from our bureau in new york. and thanks so very much for being with us... |
Thank you. Thank you. It's very nice to be talking to everyone on my birthday. | thank you thank you it's very nice to be talking to everyone on, my | Thank. you Thank you It's very nice to be. talking to everyone on my | thank you. thank you. it's very nice to be talking to everyone on my birthday. |
And Steven Sebring, I have to ask you, after 10 years of working on a project, sometimes you start to think maybe that novel's never going to get finished. | and steven sebring i have to ask you after 10 years of working on a project sometimes you start to think, maybe that novel's never going to get | And Steven Sebring I have to, ask. you, after 10 years of working on a project sometimes you start to think, maybe that novel's never, going to get | and steven sebring, i have to ask you, after 10 years of working on a project, sometimes you start to think maybe that novel's never going to get finished. |
It felt like that sometimes, but I kept loving it. So... | it felt like that. sometimes but i, kept loving it | It felt like that sometimes, but I kept loving it | it felt like that sometimes, but i kept loving it. so... |
Now, tell us about the origins of this. I understand you were assigned as a photographer to go shoot a picture of Patti Smith. | now tell us about the origins of this i understand you were assigned as a photographer to go shoot a picture of patti | Now tell us about the origins of this I understand you were assigned as a photographer to go shoot a picture of Patti. | now, tell us about the origins of this. i understand you were assigned as a photographer to go shoot a picture of patti smith. |
Yeah in 1995, Spin magazine sent Patti a list of photographers, and luckily, I was one of them. And I went to Detroit as a matter for the first time. | yeah in 1995, spin magazine sent patti, a list of photographers and luckily i was. one of, them and i went to detroit. as a matter for the first | Yeah in 1995, Spin magazine sent Patti a list of photographers and luckily I was one of them And I went to Detroit as a matter for the first | yeah in 1995, spin magazine sent patti a list of photographers, and luckily, i was one of them. and i went to detroit as a matter for the first time. |
And I've read that, in fact, you got so interested in the conversation, she had to remind you to take a picture. | and i've. read that in fact you got so interested in the conversation she had to remind you to take a | And I've read that in fact you got; so interested in the conversation she had to remind you to take a | and i've read that, in fact, you got so interested in the conversation, she had to remind you to take a picture. |
Yeah. Do you remember that time? | yeah do you remember that, | Yeah Do you remember that | yeah. do you remember that time? |
Yes. | yes. | ||
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We were drinking coffee all day along. | we were, drinking coffee all day | We were, drinking coffee all day | we were drinking coffee all day along. |
I felt like Audrey Hepburn in "Funny Face" - take the picture, take the picture. | i felt like audrey hepburn in. "funny face" - take, the picture take the | I felt like Audrey Hepburn; in. "Funny Face" - take the picture take the | i felt like audrey hepburn in "funny face" - take the picture, take the picture. |
I got eight rolls of film off, I think. That's all I needed. | i. got eight. rolls of film off i, think that's, all i | I got eight rolls of, film off I think That's all I | i got eight rolls of film off, i think. that's all i needed. |
And I've read, Patti Smith, that you said at one point, when you were about a 50 or so, that, well, you weren't too interested in having a documentary made of your life. You haven't done enough yet. | and i've read patti smith that you said at one point when you were, about a 50 or so that well you weren't too, interested. in having a documentary made of your life you haven't. done enough | And I've read Patti Smith that you said at one point when you were about a, 50 or so that well you weren't too interested in having a documentary made of your life You haven't, done enough. | and i've read, patti smith, that you said at one point, when you were about a 50 or so, that, well, you weren't too interested in having a documentary made of your life. you haven't done enough yet. |
Well, that's how I felt. I felt that I had - you know, documentaries to me are often a retrospective, what an artist has achieved. And I wasn't so certain that I had achieved enough to merit a documentary, but Steven offered to shoot our comings and goings on his own. He was not invasive. He was like a brother shooting... | well that's how i felt i felt that i had - you know documentaries to. me are often a retrospective what an artist has; achieved and i wasn't so certain. that i had achieved enough to merit a documentary but steven. offered to. shoot our comings and goings, on his own he, was not invasive he was like a brother shooting.... | Well that's how I felt I felt that, I had - you know documentaries to. me are often a retrospective what an artist has achieved And. I wasn't so, certain that I had achieved enough to merit a documentary; but Steven offered to shoot our comings and goings. on his own He was not invasive He was like a, brother shooting ... | well, that's how i felt. i felt that i had - you know, documentaries to me are often a retrospective, what an artist has achieved. and i wasn't so certain that i had achieved enough to merit a documentary, but steven offered to shoot our comings and goings on his own. he was not invasive. he was like a brother shooting... |
And there is remarkable footage of your children, and we see them grow from kids into young adults. | and there is remarkable footage of your children and we see them grow from kids into young | And there is remarkable footage of your children and we see them grow from kids into young | and there is remarkable footage of your children, and we see them grow from kids into young adults. |
Yes. | yes. | ||
And from people with strange obsessions to people who are wonderfully poised and performers, too. | and from people with strange obsessions to people who are wonderfully. poised and performers | And from people with strange obsessions. to people who are wonderfully poised and performers | and from people with strange obsessions to people who are wonderfully poised and performers, too. |
Yes, they're both musicians. I'm very proud of both of them. | yes they're both musicians i'm very proud of both of | Yes they're both musicians I'm, very proud of both of, | yes, they're both musicians. i'm very proud of both of them. |
Can't imagine how that happened. | can't imagine how that | Can't imagine how that | can't imagine how that happened. |
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There is also a great scene with your parents in your - well, I don't know if you call it your hometown, but it's where you spent a lot of your childhood growing up in South Jersey. | there is also a great; scene with your parents. in your - well i don't know. if you call it your hometown but it's where you spent a lot of your childhood, growing up in, south | There is also a great scene with your parents in your - well I don't; know if you. call it your hometown but it's where you spent a lot of your childhood growing up in South | there is also a great scene with your parents in your - well, i don't know if you call it your hometown, but it's where you spent a lot of your childhood growing up in south jersey. |
Yes, I knew that I could take Steven to visit my parents because I knew he would appreciate them and find just the right moments to film them. And they were delighted, weren't they? They were happy to be filmed. | yes i knew that. i could take steven to. visit, my parents because i knew he would appreciate them and find just the right, moments to. film them and they were delighted, weren't they? they were happy to be | Yes I knew that I could take Steven to visit my parents because I knew he. would appreciate, them and find just. the right. moments to film them And they were delighted. weren't they? They were happy to be, | yes, i knew that i could take steven to visit my parents because i knew he would appreciate them and find just the right moments to film them. and they were delighted, weren't they? they were happy to be filmed. |
It was really delightful to go. I was really happy Patti asked me to go. | it was really delightful to go i was really, happy patti asked me. to | It was really delightful to go I was really happy Patti asked me to, | it was really delightful to go. i was really happy patti asked me to go. |
And they didn't live much long after. So it's a beautiful - it was a beautiful opportunity to have them always so present. | and they didn't live much long after so it's a beautiful - it was a beautiful opportunity. to have them always so | And they didn't live much long after So it's a beautiful - it was a; beautiful opportunity to have them always so | and they didn't live much long after. so it's a beautiful - it was a beautiful opportunity to have them always so present. |
There's a great scene with you standing in your backyard, talking with your dad about the trees who had been planted - that he'd planted or your brother had planted, the bushes that were planted by your sister. Whatever happened to those? | there's a great scene with you standing in your backyard talking with your dad about the trees who had been planted. - that he'd planted or your brother had planted the bushes that were planted by your sister whatever happened to | There's a, great scene with. you standing, in your backyard talking with your dad about the trees who had been planted - that he'd planted or your brother had planted the bushes that were planted by your sister Whatever happened to | there's a great scene with you standing in your backyard, talking with your dad about the trees who had been planted - that he'd planted or your brother had planted, the bushes that were planted by your sister. whatever happened to those? |
Well, after my father passed away, my mother had to sell the house. So, hopefully, someone else is attending to them. But my father, my favorite part is when I asked him if he planted a particular tree and he said, no. Nature planted it. It just grew there. | well after my father passed away my mother had to sell the house so hopefully. someone else is attending to them but my father; my favorite part is when i asked him if he planted a particular tree and he said no nature planted, it it just grew | Well after my father passed away my mother had to sell the house So hopefully. someone else is attending to them But my father my favorite part is, when I asked him if he planted a particular tree and he said no Nature planted it It just grew | well, after my father passed away, my mother had to sell the house. so, hopefully, someone else is attending to them. but my father, my favorite part is when i asked him if he planted a particular tree and he said, no. nature planted it. it just grew there. |
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But, he said, but I was happy because I wanted a tree. So nature gave me one. He was a beautiful man. | but he said but i was happy because i wanted a tree so nature gave me one, he was a beautiful | But, he said but I was happy because I wanted, a tree So nature gave me one He was a beautiful | but, he said, but i was happy because i wanted a tree. so nature gave me one. he was a beautiful man. |
And your parents obviously had come to terms with who you are and who would had become to be, not always the case that they were ready to embrace the culture of rock and roll when you were younger. | and your parents obviously had come to, terms with who you are and who would had. become. to be not. always the. case that they were ready to embrace, the culture of rock and. roll when you were. | And your parents obviously had come to terms with. who you are and who would had become to. be not always the case that they were ready to embrace the culture of rock and roll when you were | and your parents obviously had come to terms with who you are and who would had become to be, not always the case that they were ready to embrace the culture of rock and roll when you were younger. |
Oh, my father hated rock and roll - hated it. My first real argument with my father was over the Rolling Stones. And he never, ever liked rock and roll. He just liked me. | oh my father hated rock and roll - hated it, my first real argument with my. father was over the rolling stones and he never ever liked rock. and roll he just liked | Oh my father hated. rock and roll - hated it My first real argument with my father, was over the Rolling Stones And he. never ever. liked rock and roll. He just liked | oh, my father hated rock and roll - hated it. my first real argument with my father was over the rolling stones. and he never, ever liked rock and roll. he just liked me. |
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Did they go to your concerts? | did they go to your | Did they go, to your | did they go to your concerts? |
My mother went. My mother loved rock and roll. She loved high-energy music, and even when she was 80, she was still coming to the Stone Pony in Asbury Park to see me and the Bowery Ballroom. And my mother had all kinds of fans. My father came a couple of times, but he always blamed his hearing loss on my loud amplifier... | my mother went my mother. loved rock and roll she loved high-energy, music and even when she; was 80, she was still coming to the stone. pony in asbury park to see me, and the bowery ballroom and my mother had all kinds of, fans my father came. a couple, of times but he always blamed his hearing loss on my loud amplifi... | My mother went My mother loved rock and roll She loved high-energy music and, even when she was 80, she was still coming to the. Stone Pony in Asbury Park to see me and the Bowery Ballroom And my mother had all. kinds; of fans, My father came a couple of times. but he always. blamed his hearing loss on my loud amplifie... | my mother went. my mother loved rock and roll. she loved high-energy music, and even when she was 80, she was still coming to the stone pony in asbury park to see me and the bowery ballroom. and my mother had all kinds of fans. my father came a couple of times, but he always blamed his hearing loss on my loud amplifier... |
Steven Sebring, the reason you were able to do this over such a long period of time and cover so much of the life of this singer, songwriter, artist, poet is that you did this as a self-financed film. You were under no pressure to finish it. | steven sebring the reason. you were, able to do this over such a long period of time and cover so much of the life of this singer songwriter artist poet is that you did, this as a self-financed film you were. under no pressure to finish | Steven Sebring the reason you. were able to do this over such a long period, of, time and cover so much of the life of this singer songwriter artist poet is that you did this as, a self-financed film You were under no pressure to. finish. | steven sebring, the reason you were able to do this over such a long period of time and cover so much of the life of this singer, songwriter, artist, poet is that you did this as a self-financed film. you were under no pressure to finish it. |
Yeah, I was actually not even thinking of making a film, actually. I was dabbling in film at the time, with 16-millimeter film. And I looked at Patti as, like, oh, this is my experiment. So� | yeah, i was actually not even thinking of making a film actually i was dabbling in film, at the time with 16-millimeter film and i looked at, patti as like oh this is my experiment | Yeah. I was actually not even thinking of making a film actually I was dabbling in film at the time with 16-millimeter film And I looked at Patti as like oh this is my experiment | yeah, i was actually not even thinking of making a film, actually. i was dabbling in film at the time, with 16-millimeter film. and i looked at patti as, like, oh, this is my experiment. so� |
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There's a moment in the film, Patti Smith, you're sitting in a corner of your bedroom, I think it is, and you're saying I'm going to sit here in this corner with my stuff until you finish this picture. | there's a moment in the film patti smith you're, sitting in a. corner of your bedroom i think it. is and; you're. saying i'm going to, sit here in this corner with my stuff until you finish this | There's a moment in the film Patti Smith you're sitting in a corner of your bedroom I think it is and you're saying I'm going to sit here in this corner with my stuff until you, finish this | there's a moment in the film, patti smith, you're sitting in a corner of your bedroom, i think it is, and you're saying i'm going to sit here in this corner with my stuff until you finish this picture. |
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Yeah, I went on strike. | yeah i went on | Yeah I went on | yeah, i went on strike. |
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I told him, I was going to - because the editing took a long time. But really, it - I'm grateful for the film, because it documents a very specific time in my life. I was telling Steven the other day that not many young photographers would come along and spend so much time documenting a woman between the ages of 50 and... | i told him i was going to - because the editing took a long time but really it - i'm grateful for the film because it documents, a very specific time in my life, i was telling steven, the other day that not many young photographers would come along and spend so much time documenting a woman between the ages of 50 and, | I told him I, was going to - because the editing took; a long time But really, it - I'm grateful for the film. because it. documents a very specific time in my life I was telling Steven the, other day that not many young photographers would come along and spend so much time documenting a woman between the ages of 50 an... | i told him, i was going to - because the editing took a long time. but really, it - i'm grateful for the film, because it documents a very specific time in my life. i was telling steven the other day that not many young photographers would come along and spend so much time documenting a woman between the ages of 50 and... |
Hmm. | hmm. | ||
He devoted his time and, you know, found beauty in what we did. And I found that now having that, it's a very precious time. It was a time of great loss for me. I had lost my husband and my brother and my friends. I was a widow with two children who had to return to public life, and what could have been such a terrible... | he devoted his time and you know found beauty in. what we did and i found; that now having that it's a very precious time it was a time of. great loss for me i had lost my husband and my brother. and my. friends i was a widow with two children who had to return to public life and what could have been such a terrible an... | He devoted. his time; and you know found beauty in what, we did And I found that now having that it's a very precious time It. was a time of great loss for. me I had lost my husband and my; brother and my friends I was a widow. with two children who had to return to public life and what could have been such a terrible ... | he devoted his time and, you know, found beauty in what we did. and i found that now having that, it's a very precious time. it was a time of great loss for me. i had lost my husband and my brother and my friends. i was a widow with two children who had to return to public life, and what could have been such a terrible... |
Let's get some listeners involved in the conversation. Our guests are Patti Smith and documentarian, I can now say, Steven Sebring, whose film "Patti Smith: Dream of Life" debuts tonight on the "POV" series on PBS. And let's see if we can go first to John, and John's with us from Laramie. | let's get some listeners involved in the conversation our guests are patti smith and documentarian i can now say. steven sebring whose, film "patti smith: dream of life" debuts tonight on the "pov" series on pbs and let's, see if. we can go first, to; john and john's with us from | Let's get some listeners involved in the conversation Our guests are Patti Smith and documentarian I can now say Steven Sebring whose film "Patti Smith: Dream of Life" debuts tonight. on the "POV" series on PBS And let's see; if we can go first, to John and John's with us from | let's get some listeners involved in the conversation. our guests are patti smith and documentarian, i can now say, steven sebring, whose film "patti smith: dream of life" debuts tonight on the "pov" series on pbs. and let's see if we can go first to john, and john's with us from laramie. |
Hi, Patti, how are you? | hi patti how are. | Hi Patti how are | hi, patti, how are you? |
Hi, John. Nice to talk to you. | hi john nice to talk to | Hi John Nice to talk to, | hi, john. nice to talk to you. |
Hi, John. | hi | Hi | hi, john. |
Thank you. Thank you. I want to just congratulate you and really thank you on a great career. You've just brought so much happiness to everybody over the years, and you know, your fans have really appreciated you. | thank you thank you i want to just congratulate you and really thank you. on a great career you've just brought so much happiness to everybody over the years and you know your fans have really appreciated | Thank, you, Thank you, I want. to just congratulate you and really, thank you on, a great career You've just brought so much. happiness to everybody over the years and you know your fans have really appreciated | thank you. thank you. i want to just congratulate you and really thank you on a great career. you've just brought so much happiness to everybody over the years, and you know, your fans have really appreciated you. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank; | thank you. |
And you should feel really good about that, Patti. And the other thing: How did you like Gilda Radner's impersonation of you on "Saturday Night Live"? We've always really enjoyed that. | and you should feel really, good about that patti and the other thing: how. did you like. gilda radner's, impersonation of you on "saturday night. live"? we've always really enjoyed | And you should feel really good about that Patti And the other thing: How did you like Gilda Radner's impersonation of you on "Saturday Night Live"? We've always really, enjoyed | and you should feel really good about that, patti. and the other thing: how did you like gilda radner's impersonation of you on "saturday night live"? we've always really enjoyed that. |
Well, my band thought it was hilarious. When I was younger, I - it sort of bothered me because, you know, she makes a big thing about, you know, I think it's like the white powder and the vast amounts of cocaine in the recording studio. I had never even had cocaine. It wasn't how - it's not how I work. But I thought it... | well my band thought it was hilarious, when i was younger i - it sort of bothered me because, you know she makes a, big thing about you know i, think it's. like the white powder; and. the vast amounts of. cocaine in the recording studio i had never even had cocaine it wasn't how - it's not how, i work but i thought it ... | Well my band thought it was hilarious When I was younger I - it sort of. bothered me because. you know she makes a big thing about. you, know I think it's like the white powder and the vast amounts of cocaine in the recording studio I had never even had cocaine It wasn't how - it's not how I. work But I thought it was.... | well, my band thought it was hilarious. when i was younger, i - it sort of bothered me because, you know, she makes a big thing about, you know, i think it's like the white powder and the vast amounts of cocaine in the recording studio. i had never even had cocaine. it wasn't how - it's not how i work. but i thought it... |
It was - actually, it was a privilege to be played - it was a privilege to have Gilda Radner project what she thought I might be like. And the funniest part was since there was a big controversy over the armpit hair on the cover of "Easter," she brushed the hair under her arms, and I think she had like a foot of hair c... | it. was - actually it was a privilege to be played - it was a privilege to have gilda radner project what she thought i might be like and the funniest part was since there was a big controversy over the, armpit hair on the cover of "easter" she brushed the hair under her arms and i think she had like a foot of hair com... | It was - actually it was a; privilege to be played, - it was a privilege to have Gilda Radner project what she thought I might be like And the funniest part was since there was a big, controversy over the, armpit hair on the. cover of "Easter" she brushed, the, hair under her arms and I think she had like a foot of; ha... | it was - actually, it was a privilege to be played - it was a privilege to have gilda radner project what she thought i might be like. and the funniest part was since there was a big controversy over the armpit hair on the cover of "easter," she brushed the hair under her arms, and i think she had like a foot of hair c... |
She was a great artist, and cocaine or not, I salute her. And I feel very lucky to have been, you know, portrayed by Gilda. | she was a, great, artist and cocaine. or not i salute her, and i feel very lucky to have been you know portrayed. by | She, was a great artist and cocaine or not I salute her And I feel very lucky to have been. you know portrayed by | she was a great artist, and cocaine or not, i salute her. and i feel very lucky to have been, you know, portrayed by gilda. |
There's a moment in this film I found interesting where you brush your hair, and it's not something that people think you much do very often. | there's a moment in this film i found interesting where you brush your hair. and it's not something that people think you, much do very, | There's a moment in this film I found interesting where you brush, your hair and it's not something that people think you much do very | there's a moment in this film i found interesting where you brush your hair, and it's not something that people think you much do very often. |
I do, occasionally. | i do | I do | i do, occasionally. |
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I brushed it today, actually, brushed it and braided it for my birthday. So - I mean, I go in spells. If I'm really working on something, writing or painting or really concentrating, I don't even think about brushing my hair. But, you know, sometimes I have something special coming up, and I have a very nice hairbrush,... | i brushed it. today actually brushed it and braided it for my birthday so - i mean i go in spells if, i'm really working on, something writing, or painting or really concentrating, i don't even think about brushing my. hair but you know sometimes i have something special coming up and i have a very nice hairbrush | I brushed it, today actually. brushed it and braided it for my birthday So. - I mean I go in spells If I'm really working on something writing or painting or really concentrating I don't even think about brushing my hair But you. know sometimes I have something special coming up and I, have a very nice hairbrush | i brushed it today, actually, brushed it and braided it for my birthday. so - i mean, i go in spells. if i'm really working on something, writing or painting or really concentrating, i don't even think about brushing my hair. but, you know, sometimes i have something special coming up, and i have a very nice hairbrush,... |
We're talking with Patti Smith this hour. The documentary that followed her for over a decade is called "Dream of Life." She great up, as she mentioned, with music in her house. Her mother was a jazz singer, but she didn't think she was going to sing rock and roll when she was growing up. | we're. talking with patti smith this hour the, documentary that followed her for over a decade, is called "dream of life" she great up, as she mentioned with music in her house her, mother was a jazz singer but she didn't think she was going to sing rock and roll when she was growing | We're talking with Patti Smith this hour The documentary that followed, her for over a decade is. called "Dream of Life" She great, up. as she mentioned with music in her house Her mother, was a jazz singer but she, didn't. think, she was going to. sing rock and roll when she was growing | we're talking with patti smith this hour. the documentary that followed her for over a decade is called "dream of life." she great up, as she mentioned, with music in her house. her mother was a jazz singer, but she didn't think she was going to sing rock and roll when she was growing up. |
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When I was a teenager, I dreamed of being an opera singer like Maria Callas or a jazz singer like June Christy or Chris Connor, or approaching songs with the kind of mystical lethargy of Billie Holiday, or championing the downtrodden like Lotte Lenya. But I never dreamed of singing in a rock-and-roll band. This idea, i... | when i was a teenager i, dreamed of being an opera singer. like; maria, callas, or a jazz singer like june christy or chris connor or approaching, songs with the kind of mystical lethargy; of billie holiday. or championing the downtrodden. like lotte lenya but i never dreamed of singing in a, rock-and-roll band. this i... | When I was a teenager I dreamed. of being, an opera singer like. Maria Callas or a jazz singer like June Christy, or Chris Connor or approaching songs with the kind of mystical lethargy of Billie. Holiday or championing the downtrodden like Lotte Lenya But I never dreamed of singing in a rock-and-roll band This idea it... | when i was a teenager, i dreamed of being an opera singer like maria callas or a jazz singer like june christy or chris connor, or approaching songs with the kind of mystical lethargy of billie holiday, or championing the downtrodden like lotte lenya. but i never dreamed of singing in a rock-and-roll band. this idea, i... |
An excerpt from "Dream of Life," a "POV" documentary, two hours long, that debuts tonight on PBS stations across the country. If you'd like to talk with Patti Smith, 800-989-8255. Email us: talk@npr.org. Stay with us. I'm Neal Conan. It's the TALK OF THE NATION From NPR News. | an excerpt from "dream of life" a "pov" documentary two hours. long that debuts tonight on pbs stations across the country if you'd like to talk with patti smith 800-989-8255. email us: talk@npr.org stay with us i'm neal conan it's. the talk of the nation from npr | An. excerpt from "Dream of Life" a "POV" documentary. two hours long that, debuts tonight on PBS stations across the country If you'd like, to talk, with Patti Smith 800-989-8255. Email us: talk@npr.org Stay with us I'm Neal Conan It's the TALK OF. THE, NATION. From NPR | an excerpt from "dream of life," a "pov" documentary, two hours long, that debuts tonight on pbs stations across the country. if you'd like to talk with patti smith, 800-989-8255. email us: talk@npr.org. stay with us. i'm neal conan. it's the talk of the nation from npr news. |
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This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan in Washington. Tonight, PBS begins to air "Patti Smith: Dream of Life," a two-hour documentary in the "POV" series about the poet, artist punk-rocker and firebrand. | this is; talk of the, nation i'm neal conan in washington tonight pbs begins to air "patti smith: dream of life" a two-hour documentary in the "pov" series about the poet artist punk-rocker and | This is TALK OF, THE NATION I'm Neal Conan in Washington Tonight PBS begins to air "Patti Smith: Dream. of Life" a two-hour documentary in the "POV" series about the poet artist punk-rocker and | this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan in washington. tonight, pbs begins to air "patti smith: dream of life," a two-hour documentary in the "pov" series about the poet, artist punk-rocker and firebrand. |
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My mission is to communicate, to wake people up, just to give them my energy and accept theirs. We're all in it together, and I respond emotionally as a (unintelligible), a mother, an artist, a human being with a voice. We all have a voice. We have the responsibility to exercise it, to use it. | my mission. is to communicate, to wake people up just to give them my energy and accept theirs we're all, in, it together and i respond emotionally as a (unintelligible), a mother an artist a human being with a voice we all have a voice we have the responsibility, to exercise it to use | My mission, is, to communicate to wake people up just to give them my energy and accept theirs We're. all in it together and I respond emotionally. as a (unintelligible), a mother an artist a human being with, a voice We all, have a voice We have. the responsibility to exercise it to use | my mission is to communicate, to wake people up, just to give them my energy and accept theirs. we're all in it together, and i respond emotionally as a (unintelligible), a mother, an artist, a human being with a voice. we all have a voice. we have the responsibility to exercise it, to use it. |
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