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But winemaker Kathy Joseph wants to make sure it doesn't take over California's traditional crops. | but winemaker. kathy joseph wants to, make sure it doesn't take over california's, traditional | But winemaker Kathy Joseph wants to make sure it doesn't take over California's; traditional | but winemaker kathy joseph wants to make sure it doesn't take over california's traditional crops. |
I have nothing against cannabis. It existed whether it was legal or not legal, and this just allows it to be controlled a little bit more responsibly. But that isn't what happened. | i have nothing against cannabis it existed whether it was legal or not legal and this just allows it to be controlled a little, bit more responsibly but that isn't what | I have nothing against cannabis It, existed whether it was legal or not legal and this just allows it to be, controlled a little bit more responsibly But that isn't what | i have nothing against cannabis. it existed whether it was legal or not legal, and this just allows it to be controlled a little bit more responsibly. but that isn't what happened. |
For its part, the county says it's still learning how to regulate this budding industry. | for its part the county says it's still learning how to regulate this, budding | For its, part the county says it's, still learning how. to regulate this budding | for its part, the county says it's still learning how to regulate this budding industry. |
For NPR News, I'm Claire Heddles in Santa Barbara County. | for npr, news i'm claire, heddles in santa barbara | For. NPR News I'm Claire Heddles in Santa Barbara | for npr news, i'm claire heddles in santa barbara county. |
(SOUNDBITE OF PETER BJORN AND JOHN'S "LET'S CALL IT OFF (GIRL TALK REMIX)" | (soundbite. of peter bjorn and john's "let's call it off (girl talk | (SOUNDBITE OF PETER BJORN AND JOHN'S "LET'S CALL IT OFF (GIRL TALK | (soundbite of peter bjorn and john's "let's call it off (girl talk remix)" |
Every year, March Madness brings in big ratings and a ton of money for the NCAA, the TV networks and the coaches. But what do the players get? Supposedly, a free education. It's a perennial debate. Should we pay student athletes? But let's look at this debate through another lens. Those student athletes, particularly t... | every year march madness brings in big ratings. and a ton of money for the ncaa the tv networks and, the coaches but what do the, players get? supposedly a free education it's a perennial debate should we pay student athletes? but let's look at this debate through another lens. those student athletes particularly the o... | Every year March Madness brings in big ratings and a ton of money for, the NCAA the, TV networks and. the coaches But what, do the players get? Supposedly a free education It's a perennial debate Should we; pay student athletes? But. let's. look at this debate through another lens Those student athletes particularly th... | every year, march madness brings in big ratings and a ton of money for the ncaa, the tv networks and the coaches. but what do the players get? supposedly, a free education. it's a perennial debate. should we pay student athletes? but let's look at this debate through another lens. those student athletes, particularly t... |
Hey, Lulu. | hey | Hey | hey, lulu. |
So, Gene, let's start by looking at the money involved in big-time college sports. You looked specifically at the Power Five. | so gene let's start. by looking, at the money involved in big-time college sports. you looked specifically at the power | So Gene let's start by looking at the money involved in big-time college sports You looked specifically at the Power | so, gene, let's start by looking at the money involved in big-time college sports. you looked specifically at the power five. |
It all depends on what you are driving and how it's equipped. If you are an amazingly smart driver in a car that basically only needs 15-inch diameter wheels, you'd get more mileage. But if you're an amazingly smart driver who is into bling-bling and you have 20-inch wheels on that car, you're goin... | it all depends on what you, are driving and, how it's; equipped. if you are an amazingly. smart driver in a car that, basically only needs 15-inch diameter wheels you'd get more mileage but if, you're an amazingly, smart driver, who is into bling-bling and you have 20-inch wheels on that car you're... | It, all depends on what you are driving and how it's. equipped. If you are. an amazingly smart driver. in a car that basically only needs 15-inch diameter wheels you'd get more mileage But if you're an amazingly smart driver who. is. into. bling-bling and you have 20-inch wheels on. that car. you'r... | it all depends on what you are driving and how it's equipped. if you are an amazingly smart driver in a car that basically only needs 15-inch diameter wheels, you'd get more mileage. but if you're an amazingly smart driver who is into bling-bling and you have 20-inch wheels on that car, you're goin... |
So what do you think is the range that you can really extend your mileage efficiency by, by being very smart as opposed to being... | so. what do you think is the range, that you can, really extend your mileage efficiency by by being very smart, as opposed to | So, what do you think is the; range that. you can really extend your mileage efficiency by by, being very smart as opposed to; | so what do you think is the range that you can really extend your mileage efficiency by, by being very smart as opposed to being... |
I can give you... | i can give | I, can give | i can give you... |
...average to stupid about gas mileage? | ...average to stupid. about gas | ...average to stupid, about gas | ...average to stupid about gas mileage? |
I can give you real-world, you know, examples. We've done these tests, believe it or not, with Mercedes-Benz, where we're looking at a lot of their diesel technology. Mercedes-Benz, you know, has a kind of a sense of humor. You know, they thought that, you know, instead of us going out there and ... | i can give you. real-world you know examples we've done these tests believe it or not with mercedes-benz where we're looking at a lot of their diesel technology mercedes-benz you know has a kind of a sense of humor you know they thought that you know instead of us going out there and showing how ... | I can, give you, real-world, you know examples, We've done these tests believe it or not with Mercedes-Benz where we're looking at a lot. of their diesel technology Mercedes-Benz you know has a kind of a sense, of. humor You know they thought that you know instead of us going out there and showin... | i can give you real-world, you know, examples. we've done these tests, believe it or not, with mercedes-benz, where we're looking at a lot of their diesel technology. mercedes-benz, you know, has a kind of a sense of humor. you know, they thought that, you know, instead of us going out there and ... |
You call that novel? | you call that | You call that | you call that novel? |
Well, we don't normally coast downhill. | well we don't. normally coast | Well we don't normally coast | well, we don't normally coast downhill. |
Novel--or reckless would be another word for that. | novel--or reckless would be another, word, for | Novel--or. reckless would be another; word for | novel--or reckless would be another word for that. |
(Laughs) Turning off the air conditioner, not running, you know, with headlights on, daytime, of course, not running with anything that consumes lots of power, because, of course that consumes energy. And so, yeah, you know, some of us, you know, finished with the five--you know, we got five miles m... | (laughs) turning off the air conditioner not running you know with headlights on, daytime of course not running with anything that consumes lots of. power because of. course that consumes energy and so yeah you know some of us you know finished with the five--you know we got five miles more out of t... | (Laughs) Turning off the air conditioner not running you know, with, headlights on daytime of course not running. with anything that consumes lots of power because of course that consumes energy And so, yeah you know some of, us you know finished with the five--you know we got five, miles more out o... | (laughs) turning off the air conditioner, not running, you know, with headlights on, daytime, of course, not running with anything that consumes lots of power, because, of course that consumes energy. and so, yeah, you know, some of us, you know, finished with the five--you know, we got five miles m... |
Warren Brown, thanks a lot. | warren brown thanks a | Warren Brown thanks a | warren brown, thanks a lot. |
You're welcome. Always a pleasure. | you're welcome always a | You're welcome Always a | you're welcome. always a pleasure. |
Warren Brown, who is automotive writer for The Washington Post. | warren brown who is, automotive writer for the washington | Warren Brown who is automotive writer for The Washington | warren brown, who is automotive writer for the washington post. |
Members of the 501st Imperial Stormtrooper Legion have an unusual hobby. They make their own white plastic armor, you know, the kind from "Star Wars?" For most of the year, they don it for parades and charity events, but as Claire Trageser from member station KPBS reports, now these stormtroopers are gearing up for the... | members of the, 501st imperial stormtrooper, legion have an unusual hobby they make their own white plastic armor you know the kind from "star wars?" for most of the; year they don it for parades. and charity events but as claire trageser from member station kpbs reports now these stormtroopers are gearing up for their... | Members, of the 501st Imperial Stormtrooper Legion have an unusual hobby They make their own white plastic armor you know the kind from "Star Wars?" For most of the year they don it for parades and charity events but as Claire Trageser, from member station KPBS reports now these. stormtroopers are, gearing up for their... | members of the 501st imperial stormtrooper legion have an unusual hobby. they make their own white plastic armor, you know, the kind from "star wars?" for most of the year, they don it for parades and charity events, but as claire trageser from member station kpbs reports, now these stormtroopers are gearing up for the... |
It's all going down at San Diego's Comic-Con. | it's; all going down at san diego's | It's, all going down at San Diego's | it's all going down at san diego's comic-con. |
A short time ago, in a garage not so far away, Steve Leahy was having a problem with his armor. There was a tiny piece of plastic, maybe just a few millimeters wide, stuck out from the shin guard. | a short time ago in a garage not so, far away steve leahy was having a problem with his armor there was a tiny piece, of. plastic maybe just a few millimeters wide stuck out from the shin | A short time ago in a garage not so far. away Steve Leahy was having a problem with his armor There was a tiny piece of plastic maybe just a few millimeters wide stuck out from the, shin | a short time ago, in a garage not so far away, steve leahy was having a problem with his armor. there was a tiny piece of plastic, maybe just a few millimeters wide, stuck out from the shin guard. |
I know it's a minor detail and while you're wearing it someone might never notice but I know it's there and I know it shouldn't be, so we like to put the effort in to make it as perfect as possible. | i know it's. a minor detail and while you're wearing it someone might never notice but i know it's, there and i know it shouldn't be so we like to put the effort in to make it; as perfect as | I know it's a minor detail and while you're wearing it someone might never notice but I know it's there and I know it shouldn't be so we like to put the effort in to make it as perfect as, | i know it's a minor detail and while you're wearing it someone might never notice but i know it's there and i know it shouldn't be, so we like to put the effort in to make it as perfect as possible. |
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So Leahy uses an electric sander to smooth it out and then goes over it again with sandpaper. | so leahy uses an electric sander to smooth, it out and then goes over it again with | So Leahy uses an electric sander to smooth it out and then goes over it again with | so leahy uses an electric sander to smooth it out and then goes over it again with sandpaper. |
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Done deal. | done | Done | done deal. |
Leahy has good reason for his obsessions. Like Civil War reenactors from this galaxy, the 501st Legion's costuming requirements are strict. To be accepted into the stormtrooper ranks, a new recruit's armor must have every stripe perfectly painted, every button and divot perfectly places. | leahy has good reason for his obsessions like civil war reenactors from this galaxy the 501st legion's costuming requirements are strict, to be accepted. into the stormtrooper ranks a new recruit's armor must have every stripe perfectly painted every button and divot perfectly | Leahy has good reason for his obsessions Like Civil War reenactors from this galaxy the 501st Legion's costuming. requirements are strict To be accepted. into the stormtrooper ranks a new recruit's armor must have every stripe perfectly painted every button and divot perfectly | leahy has good reason for his obsessions. like civil war reenactors from this galaxy, the 501st legion's costuming requirements are strict. to be accepted into the stormtrooper ranks, a new recruit's armor must have every stripe perfectly painted, every button and divot perfectly places. |
Did they paint the trapezoids on the helmet correctly? Are the tube stripes the correct colors? | did. they. paint the trapezoids on. the helmet, correctly? are the tube stripes the correct | Did they paint the trapezoids on the helmet. correctly? Are the tube stripes the correct | did they paint the trapezoids on the helmet correctly? are the tube stripes the correct colors? |
Drew Hannah decides which costumes pass muster. | drew hannah decides which costumes. pass | Drew Hannah decides which costumes pass | drew hannah decides which costumes pass muster. |
Is the frown the correct color and cut out with the appropriate number of teeth? | is the frown the correct color and cut out; with. the appropriate number of | Is the frown, the correct color and cut out with the appropriate number. of | is the frown the correct color and cut out with the appropriate number of teeth? |
It's Hannah's garage in Ventura where the garrison meets to construct its armor. | it's hannah's garage in ventura where the garrison meets to construct its | It's Hannah's garage in Ventura where the garrison meets to construct its | it's hannah's garage in ventura where the garrison meets to construct its armor. |
Does that look about right, Steve? | does that look. about right | Does that look, about right | does that look about right, steve? |
Oh, sure. Move it one millimeter to the right. | oh sure move, it one millimeter to the, | Oh sure Move it. one millimeter to the | oh, sure. move it one millimeter to the right. |
Stormtroopers can spend up to $8,000 on their costumes and work on them constantly. Now troopers are rushing to finish their costumes in time for Comic-Con. Still, Hannah says the garrison's greatest joy is visiting children's hospitals. | stormtroopers can spend up to $8,000 on their costumes and work. on. them constantly now troopers are rushing to finish their costumes in time for. comic-con still hannah says the garrison's greatest joy is visiting children's | Stormtroopers can spend. up to $8,000 on their costumes and work on them constantly Now. troopers are rushing to finish their costumes in time for Comic-Con Still Hannah says the garrison's greatest joy is visiting children's | stormtroopers can spend up to $8,000 on their costumes and work on them constantly. now troopers are rushing to finish their costumes in time for comic-con. still, hannah says the garrison's greatest joy is visiting children's hospitals. |
If you were to be able to peek under our helmets, we pretty much have goofy grins or full-blown smiles plastered on our faces. | if you were. to, be able to peek under; our helmets we pretty much, have goofy grins or full-blown smiles plastered on. our | If you were to be able to peek under our helmets we pretty, much have, goofy grins or full-blown smiles plastered on our | if you were to be able to peek under our helmets, we pretty much have goofy grins or full-blown smiles plastered on our faces. |
So why do good deeds while dressed as bad guys? Hannah says the dark side costumes are just cooler. | so why do good. deeds while dressed as bad guys? hannah says the dark side costumes are just | So why. do good deeds; while dressed as bad guys? Hannah says the dark side costumes are just | so why do good deeds while dressed as bad guys? hannah says the dark side costumes are just cooler. |
If you look at it from our point of view, we're the rightful law and order of the galaxy. Doesn't matter that our boss is a little on the evil side. To us, we're enforcing law and order. | if you look at it from our point of view we're the rightful law and order of the galaxy, doesn't matter that our boss, is a little on the, evil side, to us we're. enforcing law and | If you look at it from our point of view we're the rightful law and order of the galaxy Doesn't matter that our boss is a little on the evil side To us, we're enforcing law and | if you look at it from our point of view, we're the rightful law and order of the galaxy. doesn't matter that our boss is a little on the evil side. to us, we're enforcing law and order. |
Possibly the only dark side, downside is this. | possibly the only dark side. downside is | Possibly the only dark side downside is | possibly the only dark side, downside is this. |
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We hear that particular joke all the time, even if we are the correct height for a stormtrooper. | we hear. that particular joke all the; time even if we are, the correct, height for a | We hear that particular joke all the time. even if we are the correct height for a | we hear that particular joke all the time, even if we are the correct height for a stormtrooper. |
And Hannah is the exact right height, 5'11". For NPR News, I'm Claire Trageser in San Diego. | and hannah is the exact right height 5'11". for npr news i'm claire trageser in san | And Hannah is the exact right height 5'11". For NPR News I'm Claire Trageser in San | and hannah is the exact right height, 5'11". for npr news, i'm claire trageser in san diego. |
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This is NPR News. | this is npr | This is NPR | this is npr news. |
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Each day this week, we're airing the radio drama "11 Central Ave." It features a fictional family's conversations around the kitchen table. Like the rest of us, they are trying to deal with this financial crisis. In today's episode, Christine's slacker brother, Rick, tries to get Christine and her husband, Nat, to shop... | each day this week, we're airing the radio drama "11 central ave" it features; a fictional family's conversations around the kitchen table like the rest of us they are trying to deal. with this financial crisis in today's episode christine's slacker brother rick tries to get christine and her husband nat to shop their ... | Each day this week, we're airing the radio drama "11 Central Ave" It features a fictional family's conversations around the kitchen table Like the rest of us, they are trying to deal with this financial, crisis In today's episode Christine's slacker brother Rick tries to get Christine and her husband Nat to shop their ... | each day this week, we're airing the radio drama "11 central ave." it features a fictional family's conversations around the kitchen table. like the rest of us, they are trying to deal with this financial crisis. in today's episode, christine's slacker brother, rick, tries to get christine and her husband, nat, to shop... |
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(as Christine) OK, lattes five days a week, 52 weeks a year, times seven years - what? No, it can't be - $21,840. We've drunk a year of Annie's college education? And that's before dinner. OK. What's the dinner damage? Four bottles of wine a week, $35 times 52 times 17 - oh my, sweet Jesus and Mary and St. Joseph, that... | (as christine) ok lattes five days a week 52 weeks a year times seven years - what? no it can't be - $21,840. we've drunk a year of annie's college education? and that's before dinner ok what's the dinner damage? four bottles of. wine a, week $35 times 52 times 17 - oh my, sweet jesus and mary and st joseph that is $30... | (as Christine) OK lattes five days a week 52 weeks a year times seven years - what? No it can't be - $21,840. We've drunk a year of Annie's college education? And, that's before dinner OK What's the dinner damage? Four. bottles of wine. a week $35 times 52 times 17 - oh my sweet, Jesus and Mary and St Joseph. that. is ... | (as christine) ok, lattes five days a week, 52 weeks a year, times seven years - what? no, it can't be - $21,840. we've drunk a year of annie's college education? and that's before dinner. ok. what's the dinner damage? four bottles of wine a week, $35 times 52 times 17 - oh my, sweet jesus and mary and st. joseph, that... |
Who are the Juggalos? | who are the | Who are the | who are the juggalos? |
Well, they're also focused on the hack that took place during the government shutdown in October 2013 and whether that played some role in this latest episode. That hack was against the Federal Election Commission, and it had furloughed all of its then-339 employees during the 2013 government shutdown. So that means th... | well they're also focused on the hack that took place during the government shutdown in october 2013 and whether that played some role in this latest episode that hack was against the federal election commission and it had furloughed, all of its then-339 employees during the 2013 government shutdown so that means the f... | Well they're, also focused on the hack that took place during, the government shutdown in October, 2013 and whether that played some role in this latest episode, That hack, was against the Federal Election Commission and it had furloughed all of its then-339 employees during the 2013 government shutdown So that means t... | well, they're also focused on the hack that took place during the government shutdown in october 2013 and whether that played some role in this latest episode. that hack was against the federal election commission, and it had furloughed all of its then-339 employees during the 2013 government shutdown. so that means th... |
And it turns out that the Chinese hacked into the FEC system just days into the shutdown. The focus at that time was how hackers were able to - might - maybe get information on subpoenas and donors in investigations that the Federal Election Commission might be conducting. But now officials are looking at whether or no... | and it turns out that the chinese hacked into the fec system just days into the shutdown the focus. at that time was how hackers were able. to - might - maybe get information on subpoenas. and donors in investigations. that the federal election commission might be conducting but now officials are looking. at whether or... | And it, turns out that the Chinese hacked into, the FEC system just days into the shutdown The focus at that time was. how hackers were able to - might - maybe get information on subpoenas and; donors in investigations that the Federal Election Commission might be conducting But now officials are looking at whether or,... | and it turns out that the chinese hacked into the fec system just days into the shutdown. the focus at that time was how hackers were able to - might - maybe get information on subpoenas and donors in investigations that the federal election commission might be conducting. but now officials are looking at whether or no... |
So does that mean that finding a vulnerability at the Federal Election Commission's computer system might have also led to a hacker finding a vulnerability at OPM? | so; does. that mean that finding a vulnerability at the federal election commission's computer system might have also led to a hacker finding a vulnerability, at | So does that mean that finding a vulnerability at the Federal Election Commission's computer system might have also led to a hacker finding a vulnerability at. | so does that mean that finding a vulnerability at the federal election commission's computer system might have also led to a hacker finding a vulnerability at opm? |
Exactly. So hypothetically, let's say you're hacking into the FEC network, and you find that it's easy to get into the system through some glitch in the code that runs, for example, the network printers. Then you take that glitch, and you see if that works in a hack against some other federal agency, like OPM. So hacki... | exactly so hypothetically let's say you're hacking into the fec network and you find that. it's easy to get into the system through some glitch, in. the code that, runs, for example; the network printers then you take that glitch and you see if that works. in a hack against some other federal agency like opm so hacking... | Exactly So hypothetically. let's say you're hacking into the FEC, network and you find that it's easy. to get into the system through some glitch. in the, code that runs, for example the network printers Then you take that glitch, and you see if that works in, a hack against some other federal agency like OPM So hackin... | exactly. so hypothetically, let's say you're hacking into the fec network, and you find that it's easy to get into the system through some glitch in the code that runs, for example, the network printers. then you take that glitch, and you see if that works in a hack against some other federal agency, like opm. so hacki... |
Why isn't the Obama administration saying on the record that China is responsible for this? Is it because they aren't sure? | why isn't the obama administration saying on. the record that china is responsible. for this? is it because they aren't | Why isn't the Obama administration saying, on, the record, that China. is responsible for this? Is, it because they aren't | why isn't the obama administration saying on the record that china is responsible for this? is it because they aren't sure? |
No. In background conversations, they seem pretty sure. In fact, they're zeroing in on who, specifically, they think is responsible. They're looking at a hacking group that goes after strategic interests for the Chinese government, and it's called - and I'm not making this up - Deep Panda. | no in background conversations they seem pretty sure in fact they're zeroing in on, who specifically they think, is responsible. they're looking at a hacking group that. goes after strategic interests for the chinese government and it's called - and i'm not making this up - deep, | No In background conversations they seem pretty sure In fact they're zeroing, in on who specifically they think is responsible They're looking at a hacking group that goes, after strategic interests for the Chinese government, and it's called - and I'm not making this up - Deep | no. in background conversations, they seem pretty sure. in fact, they're zeroing in on who, specifically, they think is responsible. they're looking at a hacking group that goes after strategic interests for the chinese government, and it's called - and i'm not making this up - deep panda. |
Why not say this publicly? | why not say this | Why not. say this | why not say this publicly? |
Well, part of the reason is because the U.S. does this kind of hacking and espionage as well, and it's understood that this sort of thing goes on. One official told me that so far, the calculation has been that the trouble that they would cause in naming China specifically seems to outweigh the benefits of calling them... | well part of the reason is because the u.s, does this kind, of hacking and espionage as, well and, it's, understood that this sort of, thing goes; on one official told me that so far the calculation has been that the trouble; that they would cause in naming china specifically seems. to outweigh the benefits of calling ... | Well part of the reason is because the, U.S does this kind of hacking and espionage as well and it's understood that this sort of thing goes, on One official, told me that so far the, calculation has been that the trouble that they. would cause in naming China, specifically seems to outweigh the benefits. of calling th... | well, part of the reason is because the u.s. does this kind of hacking and espionage as well, and it's understood that this sort of thing goes on. one official told me that so far, the calculation has been that the trouble that they would cause in naming china specifically seems to outweigh the benefits of calling them... |
That's NPR's Dina Temple-Raston. Dina, thank you. | that's npr's dina temple-raston dina thank | That's NPR's Dina Temple-Raston Dina thank | that's npr's dina temple-raston. dina, thank you. |
You're welcome. | you're | You're | you're welcome. |
Today, we're looking into what's happened with some of the more compelling stories we've covered this year. We've been reporting on the resurgence of opiate abuse in the U.S. One of the saddest incidents occurred last February - a cluster of 22 overdose deaths in the Pittsburgh area from heroin spiked with the painkill... | today we're looking into what's happened, with some of, the more compelling. stories we've covered, this year we've. been reporting, on the resurgence of opiate, abuse in the u.s one of the saddest incidents. occurred last february - a cluster of 22 overdose deaths in the, pittsburgh area from heroin spiked with the pa... | Today we're looking into what's happened with some of the more compelling stories we've covered this year We've, been reporting on the resurgence of opiate abuse in the U.S One. of the saddest, incidents occurred last, February - a cluster of 22 overdose deaths in the Pittsburgh area from heroin spiked with the painkil... | today, we're looking into what's happened with some of the more compelling stories we've covered this year. we've been reporting on the resurgence of opiate abuse in the u.s. one of the saddest incidents occurred last february - a cluster of 22 overdose deaths in the pittsburgh area from heroin spiked with the painkill... |
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Right at this very moment, there is a batch of heroin out there that will kill you. And we're trying to tell people if you have it, throw it away. | right at; this very moment there is a batch of. heroin out there that will kill you and we're trying to tell people if you have it, throw. it | Right at this very moment there is a batch of heroin out there that will kill you And we're trying to tell people if you have it throw it | right at this very moment, there is a batch of heroin out there that will kill you. and we're trying to tell people if you have it, throw it away. |
That was the Mayor of Pittsburgh, Bill Peduto, speaking to TV station KDKA in January. Dr. Neil Capretto is the medical director of the Gateway Rehabilitation Center in Pittsburgh. He says region's problems with heroin have continued, though not at the same intensity. | that was the mayor of pittsburgh bill, peduto speaking to tv station kdka in january dr neil capretto is. the medical director of the gateway rehabilitation center in, pittsburgh he says region's problems with heroin have continued though, not, at the same | That was the Mayor. of Pittsburgh Bill Peduto speaking. to, TV station KDKA in January Dr Neil Capretto is the medical director of, the Gateway, Rehabilitation Center in Pittsburgh He says region's problems with heroin have continued though not at. the same | that was the mayor of pittsburgh, bill peduto, speaking to tv station kdka in january. dr. neil capretto is the medical director of the gateway rehabilitation center in pittsburgh. he says region's problems with heroin have continued, though not at the same intensity. |
The fentanyl was a spike within a crisis. This has been an ongoing crisis for many years. I mean, back in 1985 and 1986, Pittsburgh area - Allegheny County - had 22 overdose deaths. In 2012, we had 290. Last year, we had 278. We may be somewhere in that range this year. So this has just been ongoing. The fentanyl kille... | the fentanyl was a spike within. a crisis this has been an ongoing, crisis for many years i mean back in, 1985 and 1986, pittsburgh area - allegheny county - had 22 overdose deaths in 2012, we had 290. last year, we, had 278. we may be somewhere in that range this year so this has just been ongoing the fentanyl, killed... | The, fentanyl was a spike within a crisis This has been an ongoing crisis for many years I mean back in 1985 and 1986, Pittsburgh area - Allegheny County - had 22 overdose, deaths In 2012, we had 290. Last year we. had; 278. We may be somewhere in, that range this year So this has just been ongoing The fentanyl killed ... | the fentanyl was a spike within a crisis. this has been an ongoing crisis for many years. i mean, back in 1985 and 1986, pittsburgh area - allegheny county - had 22 overdose deaths. in 2012, we had 290. last year, we had 278. we may be somewhere in that range this year. so this has just been ongoing. the fentanyl kille... |
Also this year, there was the death of Philip Seymour Hoffman, who died of a combined drug overdose and brought a lot of attention to the rise of heroine abuse in the country. Do you think that changed the conversation at all? | also this year there. was the, death of philip seymour hoffman who died of a combined drug overdose and brought a lot of attention. to the rise of. heroine abuse in the country do you think. that changed the conversation at | Also this year there was the death, of Philip Seymour Hoffman who died of a combined drug overdose and. brought, a, lot of attention to the rise of, heroine abuse in the. country Do you think that changed the conversation at | also this year, there was the death of philip seymour hoffman, who died of a combined drug overdose and brought a lot of attention to the rise of heroine abuse in the country. do you think that changed the conversation at all? |
I believe it did to some degree with some people. I mean, it helped raise awareness. I mean, it kind of humanized the problem. I've actually had a couple people come into treatment a couple months following that who said learning of his death was a factor that helped get their attention and motivate them to get help. | i, believe it did to some degree with some people i mean it helped raise awareness i mean it kind of humanized the problem i've actually had a couple people come into treatment a couple months following that who said learning of his death was a factor that helped get their attention and. motivate. them to get | I believe it did to some degree with some, people I mean it helped raise awareness I mean, it kind of humanized the problem I've. actually had a couple people; come into treatment a couple months following that. who said learning of his death was a factor that helped; get their, attention, and motivate them to get | i believe it did to some degree with some people. i mean, it helped raise awareness. i mean, it kind of humanized the problem. i've actually had a couple people come into treatment a couple months following that who said learning of his death was a factor that helped get their attention and motivate them to get help. |
Wow. And in the media coverage, did you see any misconceptions or misunderstandings that came across from how it was covered? | wow and in the media coverage did you see any misconceptions or misunderstandings that came across from how it was | Wow And; in the, media coverage did you see any misconceptions or misunderstandings that came across from how it was | wow. and in the media coverage, did you see any misconceptions or misunderstandings that came across from how it was covered? |
Well, I think it helped. I think, unfortunately, a lot of people have this misconception that addiction - particularly, heroin addiction - only happens to a certain segment of society that's in the inner-city, you know, living homeless under bridges. But this is now very much a problem of all people - in the cities, th... | well i think it helped i think unfortunately a lot of people have this misconception that addiction - particularly heroin addiction. - only happens, to a certain segment of society that's in the inner-city you know living homeless under bridges but this is now very much, a problem of all people - in the cities the subu... | Well I think it helped I think unfortunately a lot of people have this misconception that addiction - particularly heroin addiction - only happens, to a certain. segment of. society that's in the inner-city you know living homeless under bridges But, this is now very much a problem of all people - in the cities the sub... | well, i think it helped. i think, unfortunately, a lot of people have this misconception that addiction - particularly, heroin addiction - only happens to a certain segment of society that's in the inner-city, you know, living homeless under bridges. but this is now very much a problem of all people - in the cities, th... |
And actually, in Pennsylvania and a lot of the country, the rates of overdose deaths in the suburbs and rural areas are actually now proportionally higher than the city 'cause this has spread like an infectious disease with - it was the prescription medicine problem that started, but then this new heroin came in in the... | and actually in pennsylvania and a lot of the country the rates of overdose deaths in the suburbs, and rural, areas are actually now proportionally higher than the city 'cause this has spread like an infectious disease with - it was the prescription. medicine problem that started but then this new heroin came in in the... | And actually in. Pennsylvania and, a lot of the country the rates of overdose deaths, in the suburbs and rural areas are actually now proportionally higher than the city 'cause this has spread like an infectious disease, with - it was the prescription medicine problem that started but then, this new. heroin came in in ... | and actually, in pennsylvania and a lot of the country, the rates of overdose deaths in the suburbs and rural areas are actually now proportionally higher than the city 'cause this has spread like an infectious disease with - it was the prescription medicine problem that started, but then this new heroin came in in the... |
And so sadly, it seems that you've really got your hands full as much as ever. Is there anything that the federal government or local government can do to help ease the crisis? | and so sadly it seems that you've really got your hands full as, much as ever is, there anything that the federal government or local government can do to help ease the. | And so sadly it seems that you've really got your, hands full as much as ever Is there anything that the federal government or local government can. do to help ease the | and so sadly, it seems that you've really got your hands full as much as ever. is there anything that the federal government or local government can do to help ease the crisis? |
The short answer is yes. I'm happy to say three things got accomplished this fall in Pennsylvania legislature. We now - the Good Samaritan law got available. That allows people who call for help for somebody who has died from an overdose, basically, immunity if they're caught with just drug paraphernalia. Second thing ... | the short answer is yes i'm happy to say three things got accomplished; this, fall in pennsylvania; legislature we now - the good samaritan law got available that allows people who call for help for somebody. who has died from an overdose basically immunity if they're caught with just drug paraphernalia second thing is... | The short answer is yes I'm happy to say three things got accomplished this fall in Pennsylvania legislature We now - the Good Samaritan, law got available That allows people who call for help for somebody, who has, died from, an overdose basically immunity if they're caught with just drug paraphernalia Second thing is... | the short answer is yes. i'm happy to say three things got accomplished this fall in pennsylvania legislature. we now - the good samaritan law got available. that allows people who call for help for somebody who has died from an overdose, basically, immunity if they're caught with just drug paraphernalia. second thing ... |
Well, best of luck at it, and I bet you'll be getting an earful. | well, best of. luck at it and i bet you'll be getting an | Well best of luck at it, and I bet you'll be, getting an | well, best of luck at it, and i bet you'll be getting an earful. |
As is the case with so much of what we cover, there's a real divide between the parties. Democrats are saying Deborah Ramirez's claim that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her in college is very serious, that Thursday's hearing should be delayed so it can be investigated. But interestingly, a lot of Republicans are outrigh... | as is the case with so much of what we cover there's a real divide between the parties democrats are saying deborah ramirez's claim that kavanaugh exposed himself to. her in college is very serious that thursday's hearing should be delayed so it can be investigated but interestingly a lot of. republicans are outright, ... | As is the case with so much of what we cover there's a real divide between the parties Democrats, are saying Deborah Ramirez's claim that Kavanaugh exposed himself to her in college is very serious that Thursday's hearing should be delayed, so it can be investigated But interestingly a lot, of Republicans are outright.... | as is the case with so much of what we cover, there's a real divide between the parties. democrats are saying deborah ramirez's claim that kavanaugh exposed himself to her in college is very serious, that thursday's hearing should be delayed so it can be investigated. but interestingly, a lot of republicans are outrigh... |
So has it changed the dynamic at all from what you can see? Is it making his confirmation any more likely, less likely? | so has. it changed. the dynamic at all from what you can see? is it making his confirmation any more likely less | So, has it changed. the dynamic at all from what you can see? Is it making his confirmation any more likely; less | so has it changed the dynamic at all from what you can see? is it making his confirmation any more likely, less likely? |
You know, if anything, a lot of Republicans sound even more determined than ever to support and confirm Kavanaugh. This time last week, Republicans were saying that Ford deserved to be heard, that her allegations are serious. Today, Mitch McConnell and other Republicans are dismissing both claims as unsubstantiated and... | you know if anything a lot of republicans sound even more determined. than ever to support and, confirm kavanaugh this time. last week republicans were saying that ford deserved to be, heard that her. allegations are serious today mitch mcconnell and other republicans are dismissing both claims as unsubstantiated and d... | You know if anything a lot of Republicans sound even more determined than ever to support and confirm Kavanaugh This time last week Republicans were saying that Ford deserved to be heard that her allegations are serious Today Mitch McConnell and other Republicans are dismissing both claims as unsubstantiated and design... | you know, if anything, a lot of republicans sound even more determined than ever to support and confirm kavanaugh. this time last week, republicans were saying that ford deserved to be heard, that her allegations are serious. today, mitch mcconnell and other republicans are dismissing both claims as unsubstantiated and... |
Now we're hearing there could be a committee vote on his confirmation as soon as the end of the week, and that's hard to square with Republican promises that they want to hear what Ford has to say, that they want a fair hearing. But we've said all along that a couple of key senators will determine what happens given th... | now we're hearing there could be a, committee vote on his confirmation as soon as the end of the week and that's hard to square with republican promises that they want to hear what ford has to say that they want a fair hearing but we've said all along that a couple of key senators will determine what happens given that... | Now we're hearing there could. be a. committee vote on his confirmation as soon as the end of the week, and, that's hard to square with. Republican promises that. they want to hear what Ford has to say that they want a fair hearing But we've said all along that a, couple of key senators will; determine what happens giv... | now we're hearing there could be a committee vote on his confirmation as soon as the end of the week, and that's hard to square with republican promises that they want to hear what ford has to say, that they want a fair hearing. but we've said all along that a couple of key senators will determine what happens given th... |
All right. And meanwhile, the hearing that has been set is scheduled to go ahead for Thursday. Both Ford and Kavanaugh are set to testify. And I - before I let you go, I want to mention another letter. This is one that Ford sent to Senator Grassley. It was made public today. What did it say? | all right and meanwhile the hearing. that has been set is scheduled to go ahead for thursday both ford, and kavanaugh are set to, testify and i - before i let you go i; want. to mention another letter this is one that ford sent to senator grassley it was made, public today what did it | All right And meanwhile the hearing that has been set is scheduled to go. ahead for Thursday Both Ford and Kavanaugh are set to testify And I, - before I let you go I want to. mention another, letter This is one that Ford sent to Senator Grassley It was. made public today What did it | all right. and meanwhile, the hearing that has been set is scheduled to go ahead for thursday. both ford and kavanaugh are set to testify. and i - before i let you go, i want to mention another letter. this is one that ford sent to senator grassley. it was made public today. what did it say? |
Yeah, this weekend she wrote Grassley that the assault that she described, quote, "while many years ago, it was serious and has had a lasting impact on my life." And she also wrote, the decision to report it was a very difficult one, but I felt that this was something that a citizen couldn't not do. And Grassley wrote ... | yeah this weekend she, wrote. grassley that the assault that she described quote "while many years ago it was serious and has had a lasting impact on my life" and she also wrote the decision. to report it was, a very difficult one but i felt that this was something that a citizen couldn't. not do and grassley, wrote he... | Yeah this weekend she wrote Grassley, that the assault that she described quote "while many years ago it was serious and has. had a lasting impact on. my life" And she also wrote the. decision to report it was. a very difficult one but I felt that. this was something that a citizen couldn't not do And, Grassley wrote. ... | yeah, this weekend she wrote grassley that the assault that she described, quote, "while many years ago, it was serious and has had a lasting impact on my life." and she also wrote, the decision to report it was a very difficult one, but i felt that this was something that a citizen couldn't not do. and grassley wrote ... |
All right, thanks, Scott. | all right thanks | All right thanks | all right, thanks, scott. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
NPR congressional correspondent Scott Detrow. | npr congressional correspondent scott | NPR congressional, correspondent Scott | npr congressional correspondent scott detrow. |
This is SCIENCE FRIDAY from NPR. I'm Ira Flatow. | this is science friday from npr i'm ira, | This is SCIENCE FRIDAY, from NPR I'm Ira | this is science friday from npr. i'm ira flatow. |
Last year, President Obama signed an executive order that loosened up President Bush's restrictions on embryonic stem cell research. That gave researchers more opportunities to spend federal research dollars working with embryonic stem cells. | last year president obama signed an executive order, that loosened up president bush's. restrictions on embryonic stem cell research that gave, researchers more opportunities to spend federal research dollars working with embryonic. stem | Last year President Obama signed an, executive order that. loosened up, President Bush's restrictions on embryonic stem cell research That gave researchers more opportunities to spend. federal research dollars, working with embryonic stem | last year, president obama signed an executive order that loosened up president bush's restrictions on embryonic stem cell research. that gave researchers more opportunities to spend federal research dollars working with embryonic stem cells. |
But this week, a federal judge said not so fast, imposing even more limits on the research than were in place under George W. Bush's administration. | but this week a federal judge said not so fast imposing even, more limits on the research than were. in place under george w bush's | But this week a federal judge said not so fast imposing even; more limits on the research than were in place under George W Bush's | but this week, a federal judge said not so fast, imposing even more limits on the research than were in place under george w. bush's administration. |
All this back and forth has confused scientists, who aren't quite sure just what they are allowed to do now. The Obama White House has pledged to appeal the ruling, but one alternative would be to pass the political hot potato to Capitol Hill, where Congress might pass a simple law that governs embryonic stem cell rese... | all this back and forth has confused scientists who aren't quite sure just what they. are allowed to; do now the obama, white house has pledged to appeal the ruling but one alternative would. be to pass, the political hot potato to, capitol, hill where congress might pass a simple law that governs embryonic stem cell | All, this back, and forth has confused scientists. who aren't quite sure just. what they are allowed to do now The Obama White House has pledged to appeal the; ruling but, one alternative would be to pass the political hot potato to Capitol Hill where Congress might pass a simple law that governs embryonic stem cell | all this back and forth has confused scientists, who aren't quite sure just what they are allowed to do now. the obama white house has pledged to appeal the ruling, but one alternative would be to pass the political hot potato to capitol hill, where congress might pass a simple law that governs embryonic stem cell rese... |
Lawmakers have tried that in the past, but the bills never made it past President Bush's desk. We now have a different president. | lawmakers have tried, that in the past but the bills. never made it past president bush's desk we now have a, different. | Lawmakers have tried that in the past but the bills, never made it past President Bush's desk, We now have a different | lawmakers have tried that in the past, but the bills never made it past president bush's desk. we now have a different president. |
Another option is for scientists to forget about embryonic stem cells and focus on newer methods, like transforming regular adult cells into stem cells. | another option is for scientists to forget about embryonic, stem cells and focus on newer methods like. transforming regular adult, cells into stem | Another option is for, scientists to forget about embryonic stem cells and focus on newer methods like transforming regular adult cells into stem | another option is for scientists to forget about embryonic stem cells and focus on newer methods, like transforming regular adult cells into stem cells. |
But how productive is that option? That's what we'll be talking about first up this hour, if you'd like to get in on the discussion. Our number is 1-800-989-8255. You can also tweet us, @scifri, @-S-C-I-F-R-I. Or go to our website and join the discussion over there. | but how productive is that option? that's what we'll be talking about first up this hour if you'd like, to get, in on the discussion our number is 1-800-989-8255. you. can also tweet. us, @scifri @-s-c-i-f-r-i or go, to our website and join the discussion over | But how productive is that option? That's what we'll be talking about first up this hour if you'd like to get in on, the discussion Our number is 1-800-989-8255. You, can also tweet us @scifri @-S-C-I-F-R-I Or, go to our website, and join the discussion over | but how productive is that option? that's what we'll be talking about first up this hour, if you'd like to get in on the discussion. our number is 1-800-989-8255. you can also tweet us, @scifri, @-s-c-i-f-r-i. or go to our website and join the discussion over there. |
Let me introduce my guests. Representative Diana DeGette is a Colorado Democrat in the House of Representatives and vice-chair of the House's Committee on Energy and Commerce. She joins us on the phone. Welcome to SCIENCE FRIDAY. | let me. introduce my guests. representative diana degette is a colorado democrat in the house of representatives and vice-chair, of the house's committee on energy and commerce she joins us on the phone welcome. to science | Let me introduce my guests Representative Diana DeGette is a Colorado Democrat in the House of Representatives and vice-chair of the House's Committee on Energy and Commerce She joins us on the phone. Welcome to SCIENCE | let me introduce my guests. representative diana degette is a colorado democrat in the house of representatives and vice-chair of the house's committee on energy and commerce. she joins us on the phone. welcome to science friday. |
Good to be with you, Ira. | good. to be with you | Good to be with you | good to be with you, ira. |
Thank you. Rudolf Jaenisch is a biology professor at the Whitehead Institute at MIT in Cambridge, and he joins us by phone. Welcome back to SCIENCE FRIDAY, Dr. Jaenisch. | thank you rudolf jaenisch, is a biology professor at the whitehead institute at mit in. cambridge and he joins us, by phone welcome back to science friday dr | Thank you Rudolf, Jaenisch is a biology professor, at the Whitehead Institute at MIT in Cambridge and he joins, us by phone Welcome back to SCIENCE FRIDAY Dr | thank you. rudolf jaenisch is a biology professor at the whitehead institute at mit in cambridge, and he joins us by phone. welcome back to science friday, dr. jaenisch. |
Hi, welcome. | hi | Hi | hi, welcome. |
How does this affect your work, doctor? | how does this affect your work | How does this affect your work | how does this affect your work, doctor? |
Well, I think as I understand this ruling, it would be very restrictive, more restrictive than we had under the previous Bush administration. It would really prevent any funding for embryonic stem cell research from a federal - NIH money. I think that would be rather devastating for the research on stem cells in this c... | well i think as i understand this ruling it would be very restrictive more restrictive than we had under the previous bush administration. it would really prevent, any funding for embryonic stem cell research from a federal - nih money i think that would be, rather devastating for the research on stem cells in this | Well I think as I understand, this ruling it would be very restrictive more restrictive than we had under the previous Bush administration It would really prevent any funding for embryonic stem cell research from a federal - NIH money I think that would. be rather devastating for the research on stem cells in this | well, i think as i understand this ruling, it would be very restrictive, more restrictive than we had under the previous bush administration. it would really prevent any funding for embryonic stem cell research from a federal - nih money. i think that would be rather devastating for the research on stem cells in this c... |
Representative DeGette, you have tried before to get past this law, have you not? | representative degette you have tried before to get past this law have you | Representative DeGette you have tried before to get past this law have you | representative degette, you have tried before to get past this law, have you not? |
We actually did pass the bill to expand stem cell research two times, and President Bush vetoed it twice. It was passed in a solid, bipartisan majority in the House and importantly with 68 votes in the Senate. So we think we're well-situated to pass the legislation now. | we actually did pass the bill to expand stem cell research two times and, president bush; vetoed it twice it was passed in a solid bipartisan majority in the house and importantly. with 68 votes in the senate so we think we're well-situated to pass the legislation | We actually did pass the bill to expand stem cell research two times and President Bush vetoed it, twice It was passed in a solid bipartisan majority in the House and importantly with, 68 votes in; the Senate So we think. we're well-situated to pass the legislation, | we actually did pass the bill to expand stem cell research two times, and president bush vetoed it twice. it was passed in a solid, bipartisan majority in the house and importantly with 68 votes in the senate. so we think we're well-situated to pass the legislation now. |
In fact, when the president signed - when President Obama signed his executive order, he urged Congress to pass legislation, and we've been trying to do that ever since. | in fact when the president signed - when president obama signed his executive order he urged congress to pass legislation and we've, been trying to do that ever | In, fact when the president signed - when President, Obama signed his executive order he urged. Congress to, pass legislation and we've been trying to do that ever | in fact, when the president signed - when president obama signed his executive order, he urged congress to pass legislation, and we've been trying to do that ever since. |
So we're actually ready to pass legislation that would allow for ethical embryonic stem cell research. | so, we're actually ready to pass legislation, that would allow for ethical embryonic stem cell | So we're actually ready. to. pass legislation. that would allow for ethical, embryonic stem cell | so we're actually ready to pass legislation that would allow for ethical embryonic stem cell research. |
Do you think with all the things on the agenda and the mind of Congress, they're willing to put some attention to this? | do you think with all the things on the agenda and the mind of congress they're willing to put some attention. to | Do you think with, all the things on the agenda and. the mind of Congress they're willing to, put. some attention. to | do you think with all the things on the agenda and the mind of congress, they're willing to put some attention to this? |
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