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A conservative Republican. And here's what Orrin says to me. He says, you know, these embryonic stem cells, they are embryos created for in-vitro fertilization techniques. They don't they're not needed anymore, and so what happens is they're thrown away as medical waste. | a conservative republican and here's what orrin says to me he says; you know these embryonic stem cells they, are embryos created for in-vitro fertilization techniques they don't they're not needed, anymore and; so what happens is they're thrown, away as medical | A conservative Republican And here's what Orrin says to me He says you know these embryonic stem cells they are embryos created for in-vitro, fertilization techniques They don't they're not needed anymore; and, so what, happens is. they're thrown away, as. medical | a conservative republican. and here's what orrin says to me. he says, you know, these embryonic stem cells, they are embryos created for in-vitro fertilization techniques. they don't they're not needed anymore, and so what happens is they're thrown away as medical waste. |
What we want to do is allow people to donate those embryos when they don't -the couples who they were created for, when they don't need them, for medical research. And what Senator Hatch says, to him that's the ultimate pro-life decision. They were created for life, and then they can be donated to help save someone els... | what; we want to do is allow people to donate those embryos when; they don't -the couples who they were created for when they don't need; them for medical research and what senator hatch says to him that's the ultimate pro-life decision they were created for life. and then they can. be donated to help save someone else... | What we want. to do is, allow people to donate those embryos when they don't -the couples who they were created for when they don't need them for medical research And what. Senator Hatch says to him that's the ultimate pro-life. decision They were created for. life and, then, they can be donated to help save someone el... | what we want to do is allow people to donate those embryos when they don't -the couples who they were created for, when they don't need them, for medical research. and what senator hatch says, to him that's the ultimate pro-life decision. they were created for life, and then they can be donated to help save someone els... |
Thank you both for taking time to talk with us, and good luck to both of you. | thank you both for taking time to talk with, us and good. luck to both of | Thank you both for taking time to talk with us and good luck to both of | thank you both for taking time to talk with us, and good luck to both of you. |
Good to be with you. | good to be with. | Good to be with. | good to be with you. |
Representative Diana DeGette, who is a Colorado Democrat in the House of Representatives; and Rudolf Jaenisch, biology professor at Whitehead Institute at MIT. We're going to take a short break, when we come back talk about solar and wind power. Stay with us. | representative diana degette who is a colorado democrat in, the, house of representatives and rudolf jaenisch biology professor at whitehead institute, at mit we're, going to take a short break when we come back. talk about solar and wind power stay with | Representative Diana DeGette who is a Colorado Democrat in, the House of Representatives and Rudolf Jaenisch biology professor at Whitehead Institute, at MIT We're going to take a short break when we, come back, talk about solar and wind power Stay with | representative diana degette, who is a colorado democrat in the house of representatives; and rudolf jaenisch, biology professor at whitehead institute at mit. we're going to take a short break, when we come back talk about solar and wind power. stay with us. |
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I'm Ira Flatow. This is SCIENCE FRIDAY from NPR. | i'm ira. flatow this is science friday; from | I'm Ira Flatow This is SCIENCE FRIDAY from | i'm ira flatow. this is science friday from npr. |
This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan, in Washington. | this is talk of the nation i'm neal conan in | This is TALK OF THE NATION I'm Neal Conan in | this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan, in washington. |
It's possible to look at many of the problems the United States faces today -Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle East and Iran - and find a common thread: Islam. Since September the 11th, some argue that we are engaged in a conflict with radical Islamists that some describe as the Long War. Former intelligence officer Graham... | it's possible to look at. many of the problems the united states faces today, -iraq afghanistan the middle east and iran - and find a common thread: islam since september the. 11th some argue; that we are engaged in a conflict with; radical islamists that some describe as the long. war, former intelligence officer grah... | It's possible to look at many of the problems the United States faces today. -Iraq Afghanistan the Middle East and. Iran - and find a common thread: Islam Since September the 11th some argue that, we are engaged in a conflict with radical Islamists that some describe as the Long, War Former intelligence officer Graham ... | it's possible to look at many of the problems the united states faces today -iraq, afghanistan, the middle east and iran - and find a common thread: islam. since september the 11th, some argue that we are engaged in a conflict with radical islamists that some describe as the long war. former intelligence officer graham... |
To what degree do the conflicts in the Middle East focus on religion? Give us a call: 800-989-8255. Email us: talk@npr.org. You can also join the conversation on our website. That's at npr.org. Click on TALK OF THE NATION. | to what degree, do the conflicts in the middle east. focus on religion? give us a, call: 800-989-8255. email us: talk@npr.org you can. also join the conversation on our website, that's at npr.org, click on talk of the | To what degree do the conflicts in the Middle East focus on religion? Give us a call: 800-989-8255. Email us: talk@npr.org You can also join the conversation, on our website That's at npr.org Click on TALK OF THE. | to what degree do the conflicts in the middle east focus on religion? give us a call: 800-989-8255. email us: talk@npr.org. you can also join the conversation on our website. that's at npr.org. click on talk of the nation. |
Later in the program, Ron Galella, the godfather of the paparazzi, joins us. | later in. the program ron galella the godfather, of the paparazzi joins | Later in the program Ron Galella the godfather of the paparazzi joins | later in the program, ron galella, the godfather of the paparazzi, joins us. |
But first, Graham Fuller, former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA, former senior political scientist at the Rand Corporation. His new book is called "A World without Islam," and joins us now from a studio in Squamish, British Columbia. | but first graham fuller. former. vice chairman of the national intelligence council at the cia former senior political scientist at the rand corporation his new book is called "a world without islam" and joins us now from a studio in squamish british | But first Graham, Fuller. former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council, at the CIA former senior political; scientist at the Rand Corporation His new book is called, "A World without Islam" and joins us now. from a studio in Squamish, British | but first, graham fuller, former vice chairman of the national intelligence council at the cia, former senior political scientist at the rand corporation. his new book is called "a world without islam," and joins us now from a studio in squamish, british columbia. |
And nice to have you today on TALK OF THE NATION. | and nice to have you today on talk of; the | And nice to have you today on TALK OF THE | and nice to have you today on talk of the nation. |
Hi, Neal. Thank you. | hi neal thank | Hi Neal Thank | hi, neal. thank you. |
And I wanted to make things clear from the beginning. Your title could be misinterpreted. You are, in no way, advocating a world without Islam. | and i wanted to make things clear from the beginning your title could be misinterpreted you are in no way advocating a world, without | And I wanted to make things clear, from, the beginning Your title could; be misinterpreted You are in no way advocating a world, without | and i wanted to make things clear from the beginning. your title could be misinterpreted. you are, in no way, advocating a world without islam. |
No. Absolutely not. I'm really focusing on the nature of struggle between the East and the West, and whether Islam plays a significant role in that. | no absolutely not i'm really focusing on the nature of struggle between the east and the west and whether islam plays a significant role in | No Absolutely not I'm really focusing on the nature of struggle between the East and the West and whether Islam, plays; a significant role in. | no. absolutely not. i'm really focusing on the nature of struggle between the east and the west, and whether islam plays a significant role in that. |
And you argue that, in fact, it doesn't get - a counterfactual history? Is that what you're writing here? | and you argue that in; fact it doesn't get - a counterfactual history? is that what you're. writing | And you argue that in fact it doesn't get. - a counterfactual history? Is that what you're writing | and you argue that, in fact, it doesn't get - a counterfactual history? is that what you're writing here? |
Well, it's a kind of active, historical imagination. I try to run through a whole lot of events and take Islam out of the equation and see what we're left with. And it's kind of astonishing that you find deep-rooted conflicts that still exist over ethnicity, or economics, or warfare, or armies, or geopolitics or whatev... | well it's a kind of active historical imagination i try to run through, a whole lot of events and take islam out of the equation and see what we're left with and it's kind of astonishing that you find deep-rooted conflicts that, still exist over ethnicity, or, economics, or warfare. or armies or. geopolitics or whateve... | Well it's a kind of active historical. imagination I try to run through, a whole lot of events and take Islam out of the equation. and, see; what we're left with And it's kind of astonishing that you. find deep-rooted conflicts that still exist over ethnicity. or economics or warfare or armies or geopolitics or. whatev... | well, it's a kind of active, historical imagination. i try to run through a whole lot of events and take islam out of the equation and see what we're left with. and it's kind of astonishing that you find deep-rooted conflicts that still exist over ethnicity, or economics, or warfare, or armies, or geopolitics or whatev... |
And, in fact, there were conflicts between East and West in antiquity, before Islam existed. | and in fact there were conflicts between east and. west in antiquity before islam | And in fact there were conflicts between, East and West. in. antiquity before Islam | and, in fact, there were conflicts between east and west in antiquity, before islam existed. |
Yes, but I think if you the number of times when you find Eastern armies coming into the West, I mean, the Ottoman Empire got up to the gates of Vienna at one point and were repulsed, and they were in Spain for a very long period of time - by the way, which was one of the high points of Christian-Jewish-Muslim coopera... | yes but i think if you the number of, times when; you find eastern, armies coming into the west i mean the ottoman empire got up to the gates of vienna at one point and were repulsed and they. were in spain for a very long period of time - by the way which was one of the high points, of christian-jewish-muslim coopera... | Yes, but I think if you the number of times when you find, Eastern armies coming into the, West I, mean the. Ottoman Empire got up to, the gates of Vienna at one point and were repulsed and they were in Spain for a very long period of time - by the, way which was one of the high points of Christian-Jewish-Muslim coope... | yes, but i think if you the number of times when you find eastern armies coming into the west, i mean, the ottoman empire got up to the gates of vienna at one point and were repulsed, and they were in spain for a very long period of time - by the way, which was one of the high points of christian-jewish-muslim coopera... |
(As Christine) Yeah, well, that's how last night started, with the clothes we've never worn. This pile was the revenge shopping, this one, the consolation shopping, and this one, the celebratory shopping. | (as christine) yeah well that's how last night started with the clothes we've never worn this pile was the revenge shopping this one the consolation shopping and this one the celebratory | (As Christine) Yeah well that's how last, night started with. the clothes we've never worn This pile was the revenge shopping this one the consolation shopping and this one the celebratory | (as christine) yeah, well, that's how last night started, with the clothes we've never worn. this pile was the revenge shopping, this one, the consolation shopping, and this one, the celebratory shopping. |
(As Nat) Honey, what are we celebrating? We're facing foreclosure here. | (as, nat) honey what are we celebrating? we're facing foreclosure | (As Nat) Honey what are we celebrating? We're facing foreclosure | (as nat) honey, what are we celebrating? we're facing foreclosure here. |
(As Christine) Don't. I went into Annie's room last night to find my mascara, and every pile I looked under had clothes that had never been worn. | (as, christine) don't i went. into annie's room last night to find my mascara and every pile i looked under had. clothes that had never been | (As Christine) Don't I went into Annie's room last. night to find my, mascara and every pile I. looked under had clothes that had never been | (as christine) don't. i went into annie's room last night to find my mascara, and every pile i looked under had clothes that had never been worn. |
(As Nat) And you never noticed this before? | (as nat) and you never noticed this | (As Nat) And you never noticed this | (as nat) and you never noticed this before? |
(As Christine) Well, I'm just adding it all up, I mean, everything we've wasted money on since Annie was born. Take my hair, OK? $200 every five weeks for a cut and color for 10 years. You know how much that is? $20,000. | (as christine) well i'm just adding it; all up. i mean everything we've wasted money on since annie was born take my hair ok? $200 every five weeks, for a cut and color for 10 years you know how much that | (As Christine) Well I'm just adding it. all up I mean, everything we've wasted, money on since Annie was born Take my hair OK? $200 every five weeks for a cut and color, for 10 years You know how much, that | (as christine) well, i'm just adding it all up, i mean, everything we've wasted money on since annie was born. take my hair, ok? $200 every five weeks for a cut and color for 10 years. you know how much that is? $20,000. |
(As Nat) Whaaaa-what? | (as, | (As | (as nat) whaaaa-what? |
(As Christine) Oh yeah, oh yeah. That's only the beginning. Wait til you hear what you spent. | (as christine) oh, yeah oh yeah that's only, the beginning wait til you hear what you | (As Christine) Oh yeah oh yeah, That's only the beginning Wait til you. hear what you | (as christine) oh yeah, oh yeah. that's only the beginning. wait til you hear what you spent. |
(As Nat) Oh, come on. I spend $10 a month to have my hair cut. | (as nat) oh come on i spend $10 a month to have my hair | (As Nat) Oh come on I, spend $10 a month to have my hair | (as nat) oh, come on. i spend $10 a month to have my hair cut. |
(As Rick) You know, you should have thrown in the extra two to have the ears trimmed. | (as rick) you know you should have thrown in the, extra two to have the ears | (As Rick) You know you should have thrown in. the extra two to, have the. ears | (as rick) you know, you should have thrown in the extra two to have the ears trimmed. |
(As Nat) It's a look. | (as nat) it's a | (As Nat) It's a | (as nat) it's a look. |
(as Rick) In fact, I'd be happy to pay for that. | (as rick) in fact i'd be happy to pay for | (as Rick) In fact I'd be happy to pay for | (as rick) in fact, i'd be happy to pay for that. |
(As Christine) Look, if you guys care to go into the storage room, there's the water ski that was for the dream home on the lake, seven tennis rackets, five mountain bikes, the jet ski, the surgery that followed, fencing equipment, cross-country skies. Oh yeah, and don't forget the kayak. | (as christine) look if you guys care to go into the storage room there's the water ski that was for the dream home on the lake. seven tennis rackets five mountain bikes the jet ski the surgery that followed fencing, equipment cross-country skies oh yeah and don't forget. the | (As Christine) Look if you. guys care to go, into the. storage room there's the water ski that was for the dream home on the. lake seven, tennis rackets five mountain bikes the jet ski the surgery that followed fencing equipment cross-country skies Oh yeah and don't forget the | (as christine) look, if you guys care to go into the storage room, there's the water ski that was for the dream home on the lake, seven tennis rackets, five mountain bikes, the jet ski, the surgery that followed, fencing equipment, cross-country skies. oh yeah, and don't forget the kayak. |
(As Nat) Maybe we should start an outdoor camp. | (as nat) maybe we should start an outdoor; | (As Nat) Maybe we should start an, outdoor | (as nat) maybe we should start an outdoor camp. |
(As Christine) Do you want to hear the grand total, honey? | (as christine) do you want to. hear the grand total | (As, Christine) Do you want to hear the grand total | (as christine) do you want to hear the grand total, honey? |
(As Nat) Christine, don't you think it's a little extravagant to be buying organic milk right now? | (as nat) christine don't you think it's a little extravagant to be. buying organic milk right | (As Nat) Christine don't you think it's a little extravagant. to. be buying organic milk right | (as nat) christine, don't you think it's a little extravagant to be buying organic milk right now? |
(As Christine) $25,000, did you hear me, Nat? That's year three of Annie's college. | (as christine) $25,000, did you hear. me nat? that's year three of annie's | (As. Christine) $25,000, did you hear, me Nat? That's year three, of Annie's | (as christine) $25,000, did you hear me, nat? that's year three of annie's college. |
(As Nat) What? | (as | (As | (as nat) what? |
(As Christine) Yeah, yeah. You spent a year of your daughter's college education on unused sporting equipment. | (as christine) yeah yeah you spent a year of your daughter's college education on unused sporting | (As Christine) Yeah yeah You spent a year of, your. daughter's college education, on unused sporting | (as christine) yeah, yeah. you spent a year of your daughter's college education on unused sporting equipment. |
(as Rick) You know, you guys could have a yard sale. | (as rick) you know you guys could have a yard | (as Rick) You know you guys could have a yard | (as rick) you know, you guys could have a yard sale. |
(As Christine) Yeah, I'm thinking more like a charity auction. | (as christine) yeah i'm, thinking more like a charity | (As Christine) Yeah I'm thinking more like a charity | (as christine) yeah, i'm thinking more like a charity auction. |
(as Rick) Is this the list? Oh my God, you guys spent $2,000 on Annie's bunny? | (as rick) is this the list? oh my god you guys spent $2,000 on annie's | (as Rick) Is this the list? Oh my God, you guys; spent $2,000 on Annie's | (as rick) is this the list? oh my god, you guys spent $2,000 on annie's bunny? |
(As Nat) Well, what were we supposed to do, tell the vet that $2,000 meant more than Mr. Hip-Hop's happiness and well being? What kind of people would we be if we didn't? | (as nat) well what were we supposed to do tell the vet that $2,000 meant more than mr hip-hop's, happiness and, well. being? what kind of, people would we be if we | (As; Nat) Well what were we supposed to do tell the, vet that $2,000 meant more than Mr Hip-Hop's, happiness and well being? What kind of people would. we be if we | (as nat) well, what were we supposed to do, tell the vet that $2,000 meant more than mr. hip-hop's happiness and well being? what kind of people would we be if we didn't? |
(as Rick) Bunny killers. Right, not good. | (as rick) bunny killers right not | (as Rick) Bunny killers Right not | (as rick) bunny killers. right, not good. |
(As Christine) Of course, six months later, Anneliese got a boyfriend, so bye bye bunny. | (as christine) of course six months later anneliese got a boyfriend so bye, bye | (As Christine) Of course six. months later Anneliese got a boyfriend so bye bye | (as christine) of course, six months later, anneliese got a boyfriend, so bye bye bunny. |
(As Nat) Mr. Hip-Hop kicked the bunny bucket. | (as nat) mr hip-hop kicked the bunny | (As Nat) Mr Hip-Hop, kicked the bunny | (as nat) mr. hip-hop kicked the bunny bucket. |
(as Rick) What's this? Christine, you get botox? | (as rick) what's this? christine you get | (as Rick) What's this? Christine you get | (as rick) what's this? christine, you get botox? |
(As Christine) I do. And I'm never giving that up, no matter how broke we are, end of discussion. | (as christine) i do and i'm never giving that up no matter how broke we are end of | (As. Christine) I do; And I'm never giving. that up no matter how broke. we. are end of | (as christine) i do. and i'm never giving that up, no matter how broke we are, end of discussion. |
(As Nat) We don't want to see what happens to prior puffed lips once they've deflated. We'd all need therapy for that, you know. | (as nat) we don't want to see, what happens to prior puffed lips once they've deflated we'd all, need therapy for that you | (As Nat) We don't want to see what happens to prior puffed, lips once they've deflated We'd all. need therapy for that, you | (as nat) we don't want to see what happens to prior puffed lips once they've deflated. we'd all need therapy for that, you know. |
(as Rick) Speaking of therapy, you've got couple's counseling, Nat's analysis. | (as rick) speaking. of therapy. you've got couple's counseling nat's | (as Rick) Speaking of therapy you've, got couple's counseling Nat's | (as rick) speaking of therapy, you've got couple's counseling, nat's analysis. |
(As Nat) Yeah, yeah. | (as nat) yeah | (As Nat) Yeah | (as nat) yeah, yeah. |
(as Rick) I didn't know Anneliese had an eating disorder. | (as rick) i didn't, know anneliese had an eating. | (as Rick) I didn't know Anneliese had an eating | (as rick) i didn't know anneliese had an eating disorder. |
(As Christine) Oh, it was all the rage. | (as christine) oh. it was. all the | (As Christine) Oh it was all the | (as christine) oh, it was all the rage. |
(as Rick) Wow, this is a lot of money for therapy. | (as rick) wow this is a lot, of money for | (as Rick) Wow this is a lot of money for | (as rick) wow, this is a lot of money for therapy. |
(As Christine) $176,800 to be exact. | (as christine) $176,800 to be; | (As Christine) $176,800 to be | (as christine) $176,800 to be exact. |
(as Rick) It doesn't seem to have made you all any happier. | (as rick) it doesn't. seem to have, made you all any | (as Rick) It doesn't seem to have, made you all any | (as rick) it doesn't seem to have made you all any happier. |
(As Nat) I thought the $30,940 we spent on wine would have made us all happier. | (as nat) i thought the $30,940 we spent on wine, would have made us all | (As Nat) I thought the $30,940 we. spent on. wine would have made us all | (as nat) i thought the $30,940 we spent on wine would have made us all happier. |
(As Christine) So, we seem to have enough money left over to pay for about a month of Annie's college. Where are you going, Nat? | (as. christine) so we seem to have enough money left over. to pay for about a month of annie's college where are you going | (As Christine) So we seem to have enough money left over to pay for about a month of Annie's; college Where are you, going | (as christine) so, we seem to have enough money left over to pay for about a month of annie's college. where are you going, nat? |
(As Nat) Uh, latte, my treat. | (as nat) uh latte my | (As Nat) Uh latte my | (as nat) uh, latte, my treat. |
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I'm Farai Chideya, and this is News & Notes. Here's another listener favorite from 2008. | i'm farai chideya and this is news & notes here's. another listener favorite from | I'm Farai Chideya and this is News & Notes, Here's another listener favorite from | i'm farai chideya, and this is news & notes. here's another listener favorite from 2008. |
Forty-nine years ago, Clarence Garrett dropped out of college so he could make money to raise his four children. Then, once he was in his 80s, he decided not to let his dream slip away. In 2006, he enrolled as a full-time student at the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. In December, he finally graduated more than hal... | forty-nine, years ago clarence garrett dropped out of, college so, he could make money, to. raise his four children. then once he was in his 80s he decided not to let his dream slip away in 2006, he enrolled as a full-time student at the university of, wisconsin milwaukee in december he. finally graduated more than hal... | Forty-nine years ago Clarence Garrett dropped out of college so, he, could make money to raise his four, children Then once he was in his 80s he decided, not to let. his. dream slip. away In 2006, he enrolled as a full-time. student at the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee In December he finally graduated more than hal... | forty-nine years ago, clarence garrett dropped out of college so he could make money to raise his four children. then, once he was in his 80s, he decided not to let his dream slip away. in 2006, he enrolled as a full-time student at the university of wisconsin, milwaukee. in december, he finally graduated more than hal... |
When I was a boy, I was the worst thing you could have possibly think of. I didn't want to go school. I hooked school. I was a terrible boy. | when i was a boy i, was the worst thing; you could have possibly think of, i didn't want to go school i hooked school i was a, terrible | When I was a boy I was the worst thing you could have possibly think of I didn't want to go school I hooked school I was a terrible | when i was a boy, i was the worst thing you could have possibly think of. i didn't want to go school. i hooked school. i was a terrible boy. |
Terrible as in mischievous? What kind of terrible? | terrible as in mischievous? what. kind of | Terrible as in mischievous? What; kind of | terrible as in mischievous? what kind of terrible? |
Wouldn't study my homework, cut school, you know? | wouldn't study my homework cut school you | Wouldn't study my homework cut school, you | wouldn't study my homework, cut school, you know? |
What changed your mind because you did start college for a while? | what changed your mind because. you. did start college for a | What changed your mind because you, did start college for a | what changed your mind because you did start college for a while? |
Well, ever heard of the Three Cs? Civilian Conservation Corps, that was started by Franklin Delano Roosevelt, at that time the president of the United States. And he started that program to get young boys like me off the street and try to put them in places where they could learn a trade. And I joined that, and that's... | well ever heard of the three cs? civilian conservation corps that was started. by franklin delano roosevelt at that, time the president of the united states and he started that program to get young boys like me. off the street, and try, to put them in places where they could learn a trade and i joined that and that's ... | Well ever, heard of the Three Cs? Civilian Conservation Corps that was started by Franklin Delano Roosevelt at that time the president. of the United States And he started that program to, get young boys like me off the street, and try to put them in places where. they could learn a trade And I joined that and that's;... | well, ever heard of the three cs? civilian conservation corps, that was started by franklin delano roosevelt, at that time the president of the united states. and he started that program to get young boys like me off the street and try to put them in places where they could learn a trade. and i joined that, and that's... |
That probably served you pretty well when you went into the military. How did you get into the military and what did you do once you went in? | that probably. served you pretty well when you went into the military how did you get into the military, and what did you. do once you went, | That probably served you pretty well when you went into the, military How did you get into the military and what did you do once you went | that probably served you pretty well when you went into the military. how did you get into the military and what did you do once you went in? |
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...Maybe even today - oh, the Juggalos. | ...maybe even today - oh the | ...Maybe even. today - oh the | ...maybe even today - oh, the juggalos. |
You do what you got to do. I had to work with my family and make a living, too. So did it and I'm very proud of it. | you do what you got to do i had to work with my family and make a living too so did. it. and i'm very proud of | You. do what you got to do I had to work with my family and make a living, too, So did it and I'm very proud of | you do what you got to do. i had to work with my family and make a living, too. so did it and i'm very proud of it. |
Downstairs, customers ranging from white socialites to black domestic workers kept the cash drawer ringing. Reeves' daughter Donna Limerick, a former NPR producer, remembers putting on a black dress and pearls as a teen to help her mother sell hats. | downstairs; customers ranging from white; socialites to black domestic workers kept, the cash drawer ringing reeves' daughter donna limerick a former npr, producer remembers putting on a black dress and pearls as, a teen to. help her mother sell | Downstairs customers ranging from white socialites to black domestic workers, kept. the, cash drawer, ringing Reeves' daughter Donna Limerick a former NPR producer remembers putting, on a, black dress and pearls as a teen to help, her mother sell | downstairs, customers ranging from white socialites to black domestic workers kept the cash drawer ringing. reeves' daughter donna limerick, a former npr producer, remembers putting on a black dress and pearls as a teen to help her mother sell hats. |
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During Mother's Day and Easter, when women would just come one after the other, that bell would just ring, ring, ring. | during mother's day and easter when women would just come. one after the other. that bell would just ring ring | During Mother's Day and Easter when women would just come one after the other that bell would just ring ring | during mother's day and easter, when women would just come one after the other, that bell would just ring, ring, ring. |
Mae Reeves' hat business helps paint an extraordinary portrait of the Great Migration, according to Paul Gardullo, a curator at the National Museum of African American History and Culture. | mae reeves' hat, business helps paint an extraordinary portrait of the great migration according to paul gardullo a curator at, the national museum of african. american history and | Mae, Reeves' hat business helps paint an extraordinary portrait of the Great Migration according to Paul Gardullo a curator at the National Museum of African American History, and | mae reeves' hat business helps paint an extraordinary portrait of the great migration, according to paul gardullo, a curator at the national museum of african american history and culture. |
Think about this - so you're talking about amidst of a depression, amidst of Jim Crow, a young woman who has moved from the South to the north, and she made a success of herself really from nothing. | think about this - so you're talking about amidst. of a depression amidst of jim crow a, young woman who has moved from the south to the. north and. she, made. a success of, herself really from | Think about this - so you're talking. about amidst of a depression amidst of Jim Crow a young woman who has moved from the South to the north and she made; a success. of herself really, from | think about this - so you're talking about amidst of a depression, amidst of jim crow, a young woman who has moved from the south to the north, and she made a success of herself really from nothing. |
And many of the women who wore her hats were trying to make more than just a fashion statement. | and many of the women. who wore her hats were trying to, make more than just a fashion | And many of the women, who wore her hats were trying to make more than just a. fashion | and many of the women who wore her hats were trying to make more than just a fashion statement. |
For black women who grew up in the Jim Crow era, as my grandmother and my mother did, hats were a way for them to take ownership over their style, a way for them to assert that they mattered. | for black women who grew up in. the jim crow era, as my grandmother and my mother did hats were a way for them to take ownership over their style a way for them to assert that they | For black women who grew up in the Jim. Crow era as my grandmother and my mother did hats were a. way for them to take ownership over their style a way for them, to assert that they | for black women who grew up in the jim crow era, as my grandmother and my mother did, hats were a way for them to take ownership over their style, a way for them to assert that they mattered. |
Tiffany Gill is the author of "Beauty Shop Politics: African American Women's Activism In The Beauty Industry." She lives in Philadelphia and says people still talk about Mae Reeves' hat shop. It was a center not just for black fashion but also for civic life. It turned into a polling place on Election Day. Every city,... | tiffany gill is the author of "beauty shop politics: african american women's activism, in the beauty industry" she lives in philadelphia and says people still talk about mae, reeves' hat; shop it was a center not just for black fashion but also for civic life it turned into a polling place on election day every city g... | Tiffany Gill is the author, of "Beauty Shop Politics: African American Women's Activism In The Beauty Industry" She lives, in Philadelphia and says people still talk about Mae Reeves' hat shop. It was, a center not just for black fashion but also for. civic life It turned into a, polling place on. Election. Day Every c... | tiffany gill is the author of "beauty shop politics: african american women's activism in the beauty industry." she lives in philadelphia and says people still talk about mae reeves' hat shop. it was a center not just for black fashion but also for civic life. it turned into a polling place on election day. every city,... |
When I see older women who still wear hats to church on Sunday or bring them out on special occasions, it's just a reminder to revere that generation and the ways that they asserted dignity when to be black and to be a woman was something that brought about ridicule. | when i see older, women who still wear hats to church on sunday or bring them out on special occasions it's just, a reminder to. revere; that generation and the, ways that they asserted dignity when to. be black and to be a woman, was something, that brought about | When I see. older women who. still. wear hats to, church on Sunday or bring them out on special occasions it's just a reminder to revere. that generation and the ways that they asserted dignity when to be black and to be a woman was something that brought. about | when i see older women who still wear hats to church on sunday or bring them out on special occasions, it's just a reminder to revere that generation and the ways that they asserted dignity when to be black and to be a woman was something that brought about ridicule. |
They're a generation that Mae Reeves helped dress with pride. | they're. a generation that mae reeves helped dress, with | They're a generation that. Mae Reeves helped dress with | they're a generation that mae reeves helped dress with pride. |
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I like to make them pretty (laughter). | i like to make them pretty | I like to make them pretty | i like to make them pretty (laughter). |
So many women came to your hat shop, and when they left, they sure looked beautiful, didn't they? | so. many women came to your hat shop and when they left they sure looked beautiful didn't | So many women came to your hat shop. and when they left they sure looked beautiful didn't | so many women came to your hat shop, and when they left, they sure looked beautiful, didn't they? |
Oh, yeah. | oh | Oh | oh, yeah. |
Reeves and her daughter Donna Limerick were interviewed by the Smithsonian a few years ago. The hat shop closed in 1997, and a few years later, Reeves moved into a retirement home. | reeves and her; daughter donna limerick were interviewed; by the smithsonian a few years ago the hat shop closed in 1997, and. a few years later reeves moved into a retirement | Reeves and her daughter Donna Limerick were interviewed by the Smithsonian a few years ago The hat shop closed in 1997, and a few years later Reeves moved into a retirement | reeves and her daughter donna limerick were interviewed by the smithsonian a few years ago. the hat shop closed in 1997, and a few years later, reeves moved into a retirement home. |
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When she left, her final words were don't touch anything in this hat shop. I'm coming back to make more hats. | when she left, her final words, were don't; touch anything in this hat shop. i'm coming back to make, more | When she left her final words were don't touch anything in this. hat, shop I'm coming back to make more | when she left, her final words were don't touch anything in this hat shop. i'm coming back to make more hats. |
Mae Reeves is going to turn 104 next month. She can no longer practice what for her was more than a craft. | mae reeves is going to turn 104 next month. she can no longer, practice, what for her was more than a | Mae Reeves is going to turn 104 next month She can no longer practice what for her was. more than a | mae reeves is going to turn 104 next month. she can no longer practice what for her was more than a craft. |
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It was a calling for me, something that I loved to do, making them colorful. That's why they came from everywhere, to get something different. | it was a calling for me something that i loved to do making them colorful that's why they came from everywhere to get something | It was a calling for me, something that. I loved to do making them colorful That's why. they came from everywhere to get something | it was a calling for me, something that i loved to do, making them colorful. that's why they came from everywhere, to get something different. |
The National Museum of African American History and Culture has recreated a portion of Mae Reeves' shop, and she's planning to see her hats again in the nation's capital. Hansi Lo Wang, NPR News. | the national museum of african american, history and culture has recreated, a portion of mae reeves' shop and she's planning to see. her hats again in the nation's. capital hansi. lo. wang npr | The National Museum of African American History and Culture has, recreated; a portion of, Mae Reeves' shop and she's planning to see her hats, again in the nation's capital Hansi Lo Wang NPR, | the national museum of african american history and culture has recreated a portion of mae reeves' shop, and she's planning to see her hats again in the nation's capital. hansi lo wang, npr news. |
We're entering a new year, a new technology is on candidates' minds. Where do the presidential contender stand on issues like wireless auctions and fair prices for Internet service. Well, we've got to look at the politics of tech and more in this week's technology update. | we're entering a new year a new technology is on candidates' minds where, do the presidential contender stand on issues; like wireless auctions. and fair prices, for. internet service well we've got. to look, at the politics of tech and more in this week's technology | We're entering a new; year a, new technology is on candidates' minds Where do the presidential contender stand on issues like wireless auctions and fair prices for Internet service Well we've, got to look at the politics of tech and more in, this week's technology | we're entering a new year, a new technology is on candidates' minds. where do the presidential contender stand on issues like wireless auctions and fair prices for internet service. well, we've got to look at the politics of tech and more in this week's technology update. |
This week, Chris Rabb is our guide. He's usually in the chair on our Bloggers Roundtable, but Chris also runs a new media strategy company called Visceral Ventures based in Philadelphia. | this week chris rabb, is our. guide; he's usually in the chair on our bloggers roundtable but chris also runs a new media strategy company called. visceral ventures based in, | This week Chris Rabb is our; guide He's usually in the chair on our Bloggers Roundtable, but Chris also runs a, new media strategy company called, Visceral Ventures based in, | this week, chris rabb is our guide. he's usually in the chair on our bloggers roundtable, but chris also runs a new media strategy company called visceral ventures based in philadelphia. |
How are you doing? | how are. you | How are you | how are you doing? |
I'm doing great. | i'm doing; | I'm doing | i'm doing great. |
So we asked you do some digging. We gave you a list of White House hopefuls and asked you to find out where each of them stands on key technology issues. | so, we asked you do some digging we gave. you a list of white house hopefuls and asked you to find out, where each of them stands on key technology | So we asked you do some digging We gave you. a list of White House hopefuls and asked you to, find out where each of them stands on key technology | so we asked you do some digging. we gave you a list of white house hopefuls and asked you to find out where each of them stands on key technology issues. |
So there's a bunch of different issues on the table. Let's start with open government. What does that mean and what did you find out about some of the candidates? | so there's a bunch of different issues on the table let's start with. open government what does, that mean and what did you find out about some of the | So there's a bunch of different issues on, the table, Let's start with open government, What does that mean and what did you find out about some. of the, | so there's a bunch of different issues on the table. let's start with open government. what does that mean and what did you find out about some of the candidates? |
Well, you know, it's interesting because we're talking about this in a political context, and open government is essentially one's belief in transparency and accountability of the people they elect and who our electeds appoint. So do we deserve to have access to records that the people who we elect to office? Should we... | well you know it's, interesting because, we're talking about this in. a political context and open government is essentially one's belief in; transparency and accountability of the people they elect and who our. electeds appoint so do we deserve to. have access to records that the people who we elect to office? should ... | Well you know it's interesting because we're talking about this in a political context and open government is essentially one's belief in transparency and accountability, of the people they elect and who our electeds appoint So do we deserve to have access to records that the people who we elect to office? Should. we h... | well, you know, it's interesting because we're talking about this in a political context, and open government is essentially one's belief in transparency and accountability of the people they elect and who our electeds appoint. so do we deserve to have access to records that the people who we elect to office? should we... |
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