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And sitting next to me is Anna Deavere Smith. She is a playwright, an actress. You can see her as the hospital administrator in Showtimes Nurse Jackie, as well as a professor at New York University. Welcome, its a pleasure to have you. | and sitting next to me is anna deavere smith she is a playwright an actress, you can see her as the hospital administrator in showtimes nurse jackie as well as a professor at new york university. welcome, its a pleasure to. have | And sitting next to me is. Anna Deavere Smith She is a playwright an actress You can see her as the hospital administrator. in Showtimes Nurse Jackie as well as a professor at New, York University Welcome its a, pleasure to have | and sitting next to me is anna deavere smith. she is a playwright, an actress. you can see her as the hospital administrator in showtimes nurse jackie, as well as a professor at new york university. welcome, its a pleasure to have you. |
Great to be here. | great to be | Great to be | great to be here. |
Why this project? What made you undertake this project? | why this project? what made you undertake this. | Why this project? What made you undertake this | why this project? what made you undertake this project? |
Well, I should just correct one fact, that actually the Second Stage is Off Broadway | well i should just correct one fact that actually the second stage is off | Well I. should just, correct; one fact that actually, the Second Stage is Off | well, i should just correct one fact, that actually the second stage is off broadway |
Off Broadway. | off, | Off | off broadway. |
not on Broadway. | not on | not. on | not on broadway. |
Well, I consider it | well i consider. | Well I consider | well, i consider it |
But its all right near 48th and 8th area. | but its all right near 48th and 8th | But its all right near 48th and. 8th | but its all right near 48th and 8th area. |
Legally. Right, right. | legally right | Legally Right | legally. right, right. |
Well, I was actually invited, as far back as the late 90s, to go to the Yale School of Medicine and to make a project in which I interviewed doctors and patients | well, i was, actually invited as far back as the late 90s. to go to the, yale school. of medicine. and to make a project in, which. i interviewed doctors and | Well I was actually invited as far back as the late 90s to go to the Yale School of Medicine and to make. a project in which I interviewed doctors and | well, i was actually invited, as far back as the late 90s, to go to the yale school of medicine and to make a project in which i interviewed doctors and patients |
Mm-hmm. | mm-hmm. | ||
in whats called Medical Grand Rounds. | in whats called, medical grand | in whats called Medical Grand | in whats called medical grand rounds. |
Mm-hmm. | mm-hmm. | ||
And, for Medical Grand Rounds to present to perform at Medical Grand Rounds, which is really a lecture series for doctors. And it was a really extraordinary experience that I didnt actually do until 2000. But as long ago as 2000, I started thinking about these issues, just because talking to patients, in particular, w... | and for; medical grand rounds to present to perform at medical grand rounds, which is really a lecture series for doctors and it was a really extraordinary experience that i, didnt actually, do until 2000. but as long ago as 2000, i started thinking about these issues just because talking to patients in particular was... | And for Medical Grand Rounds to present to perform at Medical Grand Rounds which, is really a lecture series for doctors And it was a really extraordinary experience that I didnt. actually do until 2000. But as long ago as 2000, I started thinking about these issues just because talking to patients in particular was, ... | and, for medical grand rounds to present to perform at medical grand rounds, which is really a lecture series for doctors. and it was a really extraordinary experience that i didnt actually do until 2000. but as long ago as 2000, i started thinking about these issues, just because talking to patients, in particular, w... |
Right. | right. | ||
just really interesting talk. And when something has happened to someone to compromise their health, they often have a lot to say, and its very interesting to hear. | just really interesting talk and when something has happened to someone to compromise their health they often have a lot to say and; its very interesting to | just really interesting talk And when something has happened to someone. to compromise their health they. often have. a lot to say and its very interesting to | just really interesting talk. and when something has happened to someone to compromise their health, they often have a lot to say, and its very interesting to hear. |
And so this is really very topical right now | and so this is really very topical right | And so this is really very topical right | and so this is really very topical right now |
Thats right. | thats | Thats | thats right. |
the stuff that youre portraying on the stage. | the stuff that youre portraying, on the | the stuff that youre portraying on, the | the stuff that youre portraying on the stage. |
Ms. rof. SMITH: Yeah. | ms rof, | Ms rof | ms. rof. smith: yeah. |
And I when I watch these 20 people that you portray and I knew you interviewed 300, Im saying to myself, how do you weed out the other 280? | and, i when i watch these 20 people that you portray and i knew you interviewed 300, im saying to myself how do. you weed out the other | And I when I watch these 20 people that you portray and I knew you, interviewed 300, Im saying to myself how do you weed, out the, other | and i when i watch these 20 people that you portray and i knew you interviewed 300, im saying to myself, how do you weed out the other 280? |
Well, thats | well | Well | well, thats |
Is that always the biggest problem? | is that always the biggest. | Is that always. the biggest | is that always the biggest problem? |
Its always the hugest problem with all of my work. Some of your listeners probably saw my play Twilight: Los Angeles, which was about the Los Angeles riots and again I had over 300 interviews that I had to somehow whittle down to an evening of theater. | its always the hugest problem with all of my work some of your listeners probably saw my play twilight: los angeles which was about the los angeles riots and again. i, had over 300 interviews that i had to somehow whittle down to an evening, of | Its always the hugest problem with all of my work Some of. your listeners probably saw my play Twilight: Los Angeles which was about the Los Angeles riots and again I had over 300 interviews that I. had to somehow whittle down, to an. evening of | its always the hugest problem with all of my work. some of your listeners probably saw my play twilight: los angeles, which was about the los angeles riots and again i had over 300 interviews that i had to somehow whittle down to an evening of theater. |
1-800-989-8255 is our number, if youd like to talk with Anna Deavere Smith, who - do you have a favorite? | 1-800-989-8255 is. our number if youd like to talk with anna deavere smith who - do you have a | 1-800-989-8255 is our number if youd like to talk with Anna Deavere Smith who - do you have a | 1-800-989-8255 is our number, if youd like to talk with anna deavere smith, who - do you have a favorite? |
Oh, no. | oh | Oh | oh, no. |
No, theres no - just like asking which is your favorite kid. | no theres no - just like. asking which is your favorite | No. theres no - just like asking which, is your favorite | no, theres no - just like asking which is your favorite kid. |
Yeah, you cant. My mother had five and she never she went never down that road. | yeah you cant my mother had five and she never she went never. down that | Yeah you cant My mother had five and. she never she, went never down, that | yeah, you cant. my mother had five and she never she went never down that road. |
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Thats not a very good idea. | thats not a very good | Thats not a very good | thats not a very good idea. |
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But was there an overriding theme that you found? | but was there an, overriding. theme that you | But was, there, an overriding theme that you | but was there an overriding theme that you found? |
Well, yeah. I think that the overriding theme really is stated in the beginning of the play that its about every single person in that - in the play has something that they love about their life. | well yeah i think that the overriding theme really is stated; in, the beginning of the play that; its about, every single person in that - in the play has something that they love, about their | Well yeah I think that the overriding theme really is stated in the beginning of the. play that its about every single. person in that - in the play has something that they love. about their | well, yeah. i think that the overriding theme really is stated in the beginning of the play that its about every single person in that - in the play has something that they love about their life. |
Right. | right. | ||
And has a relationship to possibly losing that very thing. So, I think that this play is about love and death, its about love and loss, its about the resilience of the human spirit, the vulnerability of the body, and the price of care. | and has a relationship to. possibly losing that very thing so i think that this play is about love and death its about love and loss its about the resilience of the human spirit the vulnerability of the body and the, price of | And has a relationship to possibly. losing that very thing So I think that this, play is about, love and death its about love and loss its about the resilience of the human, spirit the vulnerability of. the body and the price of | and has a relationship to possibly losing that very thing. so, i think that this play is about love and death, its about love and loss, its about the resilience of the human spirit, the vulnerability of the body, and the price of care. |
Mm-hmm. Well, like to see if we can get right into one | mm-hmm well like to see if we can get right into, | Mm-hmm Well like to see if we can get right into | mm-hmm. well, like to see if we can get right into one |
Okay. | okay. | ||
If you want to choose one. How about Phil Pizzo? | if you want to choose one how about phil | If you. want to. choose one How, about Phil | if you want to choose one. how about phil pizzo? |
Okay, so Phil is the dean of the Stanford University School of Medicine. And you want me to do the whole thing? | okay so phil is the dean of. the stanford university school of. medicine and you want. me to, do the whole | Okay, so Phil is, the dean of the Stanford University School of Medicine And you want me to do. the whole | okay, so phil is the dean of the stanford university school of medicine. and you want me to do the whole thing? |
If you can. We have about six minutes till the break. | if you can we, have about, six minutes till the | If you can We have about six, minutes till the | if you can. we have about six minutes till the break. |
Okay, great, okay. So, this is called - and I give everything a title because I think people deserve to have their sections titled, and this is called Developing Nation. What I fear is happening is that we are slipping into a health care system that looks very much will look very much, unless it's changed dramatically... | okay great okay so this is called - and i. give everything a title because i think, people deserve to have. their sections titled and this is called, developing nation what i fear is happening is that we are slipping. into a health care. system that looks very much will look very much unless it's changed dramatically ... | Okay great okay So this is called - and I give everything a. title because I think; people deserve to have their sections titled and this is called Developing Nation What I fear is happening is that we are slipping into a health care system that looks, very much will look very, much unless it's changed, dramatically, ... | okay, great, okay. so, this is called - and i give everything a title because i think people deserve to have their sections titled, and this is called developing nation. what i fear is happening is that we are slipping into a health care system that looks very much will look very much, unless it's changed dramatically... |
Thanks for calling. | thanks for | Thanks, for | thanks for calling. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank, | thank you. |
1-800-989-8255. Before we run out of time - because well have some more time to talk - I want to do the monologue - Brent Williams the rodeo bullfighter, because he was a great surprise about what he had to say. | 1-800-989-8255. before we run out of time - because well have some, more time to talk - i want to do the monologue - brent williams the, rodeo bullfighter because he was a great surprise about what he had to | 1-800-989-8255. Before we run out of time - because well have some more time to talk - I, want to do the monologue - Brent Williams the rodeo bullfighter because he was a great surprise about what he had to | 1-800-989-8255. before we run out of time - because well have some more time to talk - i want to do the monologue - brent williams the rodeo bullfighter, because he was a great surprise about what he had to say. |
So this is called Toughness. | so, this is called | So this is called | so this is called toughness. |
Oh, yeah. It's not even made. I didn't even assemble that yet. | oh yeah it's not even, made i didn't even assemble that | Oh yeah It's not even made I didn't even assemble that | oh, yeah. it's not even made. i didn't even assemble that yet. |
You know, obesity in its own right will engender the evolution and development of so many other morbid diseases that it can erode much of the progress thats been made in survival and longevity up until now. And secondly, we have the emergence of new infectious diseases that challenge us year in and year out. And those ... | you know obesity, in its own right will engender the evolution and development of so many other morbid diseases that it can erode much of the progress thats been made in survival and longevity up until now and secondly, we have, the emergence of new infectious diseases that challenge us year in and year, out and those ... | You know obesity in its own right will engender the evolution and development of so many other morbid diseases that it can erode much of the progress thats been, made. in survival and longevity up until now. And secondly we have the emergence of new infectious diseases that challenge us, year, in and year out And those... | you know, obesity in its own right will engender the evolution and development of so many other morbid diseases that it can erode much of the progress thats been made in survival and longevity up until now. and secondly, we have the emergence of new infectious diseases that challenge us year in and year out. and those ... |
We spend a significant portion of our heath care dollars on the last six or eight months of life, right? That would be all right if it led to success. But the fact that it simply results ultimately in death, and sometimes with as many complications as benefits, is a really important part of this dialogue. You know, whe... | we. spend a, significant portion of our heath, care dollars on the last six or eight months, of life right? that would be all right if it led to success but the fact that it simply results ultimately in death and, sometimes with as many complications as benefits is a really, important part of this dialogue you know whe... | We spend a significant portion of our heath care dollars on the last six or eight, months of life right? That would, be all right if it led to success But the fact that it simply results ultimately in death and sometimes with as many complications as benefits is a. really important part of this dialogue. You know when ... | we spend a significant portion of our heath care dollars on the last six or eight months of life, right? that would be all right if it led to success. but the fact that it simply results ultimately in death, and sometimes with as many complications as benefits, is a really important part of this dialogue. you know, whe... |
We do it in a way on an individual level, and then we slip into a kind of a slippery slope with one parent or a child or a loved one saying do this, when, in fact, doing it isnt going to result in any true long-term benefit. What are our expectations of what constitutes reasonable care, at really both ends of the aid s... | we do it, in. a; way on an individual; level and then we slip into a kind of a slippery, slope with one parent or a child or a loved one saying, do this when in fact doing it isnt going to result in any true long-term benefit what are our expectations of what constitutes reasonable care at really both ends of the aid s... | We do it in a way on an, individual level and then we slip into a kind of a slippery slope with one parent or a child or a loved one saying do this, when in fact doing it isnt, going to result in any true long-term benefit What are our expectations of what constitutes reasonable care at really both ends of the aid spec... | we do it in a way on an individual level, and then we slip into a kind of a slippery slope with one parent or a child or a loved one saying do this, when, in fact, doing it isnt going to result in any true long-term benefit. what are our expectations of what constitutes reasonable care, at really both ends of the aid s... |
You know, in addition to being a pediatrician, Im also an oncologist. There was a study that was done just a couple of years ago that asked if oncologists, how often did they introduce to their patient that they were at the end of known therapy, rare - rarely done. Rarely does the dialogue take place that, you know, we... | you know in addition to being a pediatrician im also an oncologist there was a study that was done just a couple of years ago that asked if oncologists. how often did. they introduce to their patient that they were at, the end of known therapy rare - rarely done rarely does the dialogue take place that you know we - we... | You know. in addition to being a pediatrician Im also an oncologist, There was a study that. was done just a couple of years ago that asked if oncologists how often did, they, introduce to their patient, that they were at the end of known therapy rare - rarely done Rarely does. the dialogue take place that you know we.... | you know, in addition to being a pediatrician, im also an oncologist. there was a study that was done just a couple of years ago that asked if oncologists, how often did they introduce to their patient that they were at the end of known therapy, rare - rarely done. rarely does the dialogue take place that, you know, we... |
Very nice. Anna Deavere Smith reading a little bit from her play, one-woman show, Let Me Down Easy, on SCIENCE FRIDAY from NPR News. And you used this doctor to say things that people dont want to say - talk about end of life issues. | very nice anna; deavere smith reading a little bit from her play one-woman show let me down easy on science friday from npr news and you used this doctor to say things that people dont want to, say - talk about end, of life | Very nice Anna Deavere Smith reading a, little bit from her play one-woman show, Let Me Down Easy on SCIENCE FRIDAY from NPR News, And you used this doctor to say things that people dont want to say - talk about end of life | very nice. anna deavere smith reading a little bit from her play, one-woman show, let me down easy, on science friday from npr news. and you used this doctor to say things that people dont want to say - talk about end of life issues. |
Well, I went to talk to him because hes one of the most eloquent and passionate people actually that Ive met on the subject, and he has actually been in the play for a long time. I think its very interesting how he starts, that if we dont do something about this, something dramatic about it, that were headed right towa... | well, i went to talk, to him; because hes one of the most eloquent and passionate people, actually that, ive met on the subject and he has actually been in the play for; a long time i think its very interesting how he starts that if we dont do something about. this something dramatic about it. that were headed right to... | Well I went to talk to him, because hes one of the most, eloquent and passionate people actually that Ive met on. the subject and he has actually, been. in the play for a long time I think its very interesting how he starts that if we dont do something about this something dramatic about it that were headed right towar... | well, i went to talk to him because hes one of the most eloquent and passionate people actually that ive met on the subject, and he has actually been in the play for a long time. i think its very interesting how he starts, that if we dont do something about this, something dramatic about it, that were headed right towa... |
And he says we need to make these difficult choices. | and he says we need to make these difficult | And he says we. need to make these difficult | and he says we need to make these difficult choices. |
And with but and one of the dramatic things we have to do is make difficult choices. And I think we see how nearly impossible it is for politics to be the site. As much as we need politics to frame this discussion and to put it on the table for us, we see that we cant imagine that these tough | and with but and one of the dramatic things we have to do is, make difficult choices and i think we see how nearly impossible it is for politics to be the site as much as we need politics to frame this discussion and. to put, it on, the table for us we see that we cant imagine that these | And with but, and one of the dramatic things we have. to do is make difficult choices And, I think we see how nearly impossible it is for politics to be the site As much as we need politics to frame this discussion and to put it on the table for us we see that we cant imagine that these | and with but and one of the dramatic things we have to do is make difficult choices. and i think we see how nearly impossible it is for politics to be the site. as much as we need politics to frame this discussion and to put it on the table for us, we see that we cant imagine that these tough |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
conversations are really going to happen in a political way. | conversations are really going to happen in a political | conversations are really going to happen in a; political | conversations are really going to happen in a political way. |
But theyll happen in the theatre. Theyll happen on your stage. | but theyll happen in, the theatre theyll happen on, your, | But theyll happen in the theatre Theyll happen on your | but theyll happen in the theatre. theyll happen on your stage. |
I hope in theaters and places like that - schools. | i hope in theaters and places like that | I hope in theaters and places like that, | i hope in theaters and places like that - schools. |
Schools, and people will come away from your performance and say this is something we can talk about. | schools and people will come away from your performance and say, this is something we can talk | Schools and people will come away; from your performance and. say this is something we can talk | schools, and people will come away from your performance and say this is something we can talk about. |
Well, Im glad you think that way. | well im glad you think that | Well Im glad you think that | well, im glad you think that way. |
Well, 1-800-989-8255. Were going to come back and talk lots more, take your phone calls. Were also tweeting at Sci-Fri, S-C-I-F-R-I, and were going to talk about Let Me Down Easy. And well talk about why you chose the name for that play - its quite interesting, I saw how you did it - with Anna Deavere Smith. You know h... | well 1-800-989-8255. were going to come. back and talk lots more take your phone calls were also tweeting at sci-fri s-c-i-f-r-i and were going to talk about let me down easy and well talk about. why. you chose the name for that play - its quite interesting i saw how you did it - with, anna deavere smith. you know her ... | Well 1-800-989-8255. Were going to come back and talk lots more take your phone calls Were also, tweeting at Sci-Fri S-C-I-F-R-I and were going to talk about. Let Me Down Easy And well talk about why you chose the name for that play - its quite interesting I saw how you. did it - with Anna Deavere Smith You know her. f... | well, 1-800-989-8255. were going to come back and talk lots more, take your phone calls. were also tweeting at sci-fri, s-c-i-f-r-i, and were going to talk about let me down easy. and well talk about why you chose the name for that play - its quite interesting, i saw how you did it - with anna deavere smith. you know h... |
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Youre listening to SCIENCE FRIDAY from NPR News. Im Ira Flatow. Were talking this hour with actress and playwright Anna Deavere Smith about her one-woman show about health in our country. Its a terrific play. Its called Let Me Down Easy. Its at the Second Stage Theater in New York and its running through the 6th of Dec... | youre listening to, science friday from npr news im ira flatow were talking this, hour with actress and playwright; anna deavere smith about. her one-woman show about health in our country its a terrific play its; called, let me down easy its at the second stage; theater in new york and. its running through the 6th of | Youre listening to SCIENCE FRIDAY, from NPR News, Im Ira Flatow Were talking this hour with actress, and playwright Anna Deavere Smith about her one-woman show about health in our country Its a terrific play Its called Let Me Down Easy Its at the Second Stage Theater in New York and its running through the 6th of | youre listening to science friday from npr news. im ira flatow. were talking this hour with actress and playwright anna deavere smith about her one-woman show about health in our country. its a terrific play. its called let me down easy. its at the second stage theater in new york and its running through the 6th of dec... |
Yes, right. | yes | Yes | yes, right. |
Any plans to go on the road, take it around? | any plans to, go on. the road take it | Any. plans. to go on the road take it | any plans to go on the road, take it around? |
Were looking at that. Id love to. | were looking at that id love | Were looking at that Id, love | were looking at that. id love to. |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
Id love to. | id love | Id love | id love to. |
Thats great. Lets - we hope because we have lots of actors, actresses, producers, directors coming through here who are off-Broadway either at your theater or Ensemble Studio Theatre, these other places where these great little plays happen and then they have trouble getting out to the rest of the public. | thats great lets - we hope because we have lots of actors actresses producers directors coming through here who are off-broadway. either at, your theater or ensemble studio theatre these other places where these great little plays happen and then they have trouble getting out to the rest of the | Thats great Lets - we hope because we have lots of, actors actresses. producers directors coming through here who, are off-Broadway either, at your theater or Ensemble Studio. Theatre these other places where these great little plays happen and then they have trouble getting out to the rest of the | thats great. lets - we hope because we have lots of actors, actresses, producers, directors coming through here who are off-broadway either at your theater or ensemble studio theatre, these other places where these great little plays happen and then they have trouble getting out to the rest of the public. |
Hmm. | hmm. | ||
So, were hoping for you that | so were hoping for you | So were hoping for you | so, were hoping for you that |
Well, thank you. | well thank | Well thank. | well, thank you. |
(As Nine Ball) Eight Ball. | (as nine ball) eight | (As Nine Ball) Eight | (as nine ball) eight ball. |
And I wanted to ask you to I wanted to highlight two aspects of your work process. And the first thing, as a musician myself, you said that the way in which you constructed each individual character was you would listen to the rhythm of their speech over and over, you know, when youre on the subway, whatnot. And it be... | and i wanted, to ask. you, to i wanted to highlight two aspects of your work process and the first thing as a. musician myself you; said that the way in which you constructed each individual character was you, would listen to the rhythm of, their speech over, and over you know when youre on the. subway whatnot and it ... | And I wanted to ask you to; I wanted to highlight, two aspects of your work process And the first thing as a musician myself. you said that the way, in which you constructed each individual character was you would listen to the rhythm of. their speech over and over you know when youre on the subway whatnot And it beca... | and i wanted to ask you to i wanted to highlight two aspects of your work process. and the first thing, as a musician myself, you said that the way in which you constructed each individual character was you would listen to the rhythm of their speech over and over, you know, when youre on the subway, whatnot. and it be... |
Interesting. | interesting. | ||
because Im the daughter of an English major. | because im the daughter of. an english; | because Im the daughter of an. English | because im the daughter of an english major. |
And that but its true, you know. And I just are you going to be in New York still doing this in January? | and. that but its true you. know and i just are you going. to be in new york still doing this in | And that but its. true you know And I; just are you going to be in New York still doing this in, | and that but its true, you know. and i just are you going to be in new york still doing this in january? |
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No. You should get here by December. | no you should get here, by | No You should get here by | no. you should get here by december. |
Well anyway, congratulations. I would love to hear, you know, about your - any other aspects of the process. And youre on my short list of 10 people | well anyway congratulations i would love to hear you know. about. your - any other aspects of the process and youre on my short list of | Well anyway congratulations I would love to hear you know about your - any; other aspects of the process And youre on my short list of | well anyway, congratulations. i would love to hear, you know, about your - any other aspects of the process. and youre on my short list of 10 people |
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that inspire me, so | that inspire me. | that inspire. me | that inspire me, so |
Oh, thats nice. Well, you know, I think that part of language is music, that we are making music when we speak. And when I was a child, my grandfather said to me if you say a word often enough it becomes you and my acting process is that simple. Thats all it is, is talking to people, taking an excerpt of what they said... | oh thats nice well you know i think that part of language. is music that we are making music when we speak and. when i was a child my grandfather said to me if you say a word often enough it becomes you and my acting process is that simple thats all it is, is talking to people taking, an excerpt of what they said and s... | Oh thats nice Well you know, I think that part of language is music that we are making music when we speak. And when I was a child my grandfather said to me if you say a word often enough it becomes you and my acting process is that simple Thats all it is is talking to people taking an excerpt of what they said and say... | oh, thats nice. well, you know, i think that part of language is music, that we are making music when we speak. and when i was a child, my grandfather said to me if you say a word often enough it becomes you and my acting process is that simple. thats all it is, is talking to people, taking an excerpt of what they said... |
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I think with the idea that were starting them down the track and, in fact, when people break their rhythmic patterns in my experience is when they really start to get to the good stuff of what theyre saying, which may or may not be what I thought I was looking to hear. | i think with the idea that were. starting them down the track and in fact when people break their, rhythmic patterns in my experience is when they really start to get to the good stuff of, what. theyre saying which may or may not be what. i thought i was looking to | I think with the idea that were starting them down the track and in fact. when people break their rhythmic patterns in my experience is when they; really. start to get to the good stuff of what theyre saying which may or may not be what I thought I was; looking to | i think with the idea that were starting them down the track and, in fact, when people break their rhythmic patterns in my experience is when they really start to get to the good stuff of what theyre saying, which may or may not be what i thought i was looking to hear. |
Yeah, well, thats too bad because were on the radio and shes such a great actress, her body language is all missing from when she is reading, just this great body language on stage. Youre also - as part of your characterizations and the topics that you pick is putting other people in other peoples shoes | yeah well thats too bad because were on the; radio and shes such a. great actress her body language is all missing from when she is reading just this great body language on stage youre also - as part of, your characterizations and the topics that you pick is putting other people in other peoples | Yeah well thats too bad because, were on the radio; and shes such a great actress her body language is, all, missing from, when she is, reading just this great body language on stage Youre also. - as part of. your characterizations and the topics that you pick is putting other people in other peoples. | yeah, well, thats too bad because were on the radio and shes such a great actress, her body language is all missing from when she is reading, just this great body language on stage. youre also - as part of your characterizations and the topics that you pick is putting other people in other peoples shoes |
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is having physicians being in other peoples shoes that they never thought they might be in. And Im thinking of the charity hospital segment where she believed she could give the poor the same treatment as the rich. | is having physicians being in other peoples shoes that they never thought, they might be in and im thinking of the charity hospital segment where she believed she. could give the poor the same treatment as the | is, having physicians being in other peoples shoes that they never thought they might be in. And Im thinking of the charity hospital segment where; she believed she could give the poor the same treatment as the | is having physicians being in other peoples shoes that they never thought they might be in. and im thinking of the charity hospital segment where she believed she could give the poor the same treatment as the rich. |
Right. | right. | ||
And she didnt understand what it meant to be poor until Hurricane Katrina. | and she didnt understand what it meant to be poor until hurricane | And she, didnt, understand what it meant to. be. poor until Hurricane | and she didnt understand what it meant to be poor until hurricane katrina. |
Oh, no, she understood what it meant to be poor before. This is an extraordinary young doctor who I met when I went to New Orleans right after Katrina, Kirsta Kurtz Burke(ph) - just a wonderful, wonderful human being, went to Barnard, very advantaged Caucasian woman. And she loved working in a public hospital, as she ... | oh no she understood what. it meant to be poor before this is an extraordinary young doctor who i met when i went; to, new orleans right, after katrina kirsta kurtz burke(ph) - just a wonderful wonderful human being went, to barnard very advantaged caucasian woman and she loved, working in. a public hospital as she sa... | Oh, no, she understood what. it meant. to be poor before This is an extraordinary, young doctor who I met, when I, went to New Orleans. right after Katrina Kirsta Kurtz Burke(ph) - just a wonderful wonderful human being went to Barnard very advantaged Caucasian woman And she loved working in a public hospital as she s... | oh, no, she understood what it meant to be poor before. this is an extraordinary young doctor who i met when i went to new orleans right after katrina, kirsta kurtz burke(ph) - just a wonderful, wonderful human being, went to barnard, very advantaged caucasian woman. and she loved working in a public hospital, as she ... |
Right, right. | right | Right | right, right. |
We - we all know that, right? And the poor patients because learning is clumsy. | we - we all, know that right? and the. poor patients because learning is | We. - we all know that right? And the poor patients because learning, is | we - we all know that, right? and the poor patients because learning is clumsy. |
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But the way she looked at working in a public hospital, as she says in the excerpt in the play, she goes: But to me you have a tremendous opportunity to see what it would be like in some sense, without living it, to be poor and to open up your heart and your mind to these fantastic people coming into the hospital. | but the way she looked at. working in a public hospital as she says in the excerpt in the play she goes: but to me. you have a; tremendous opportunity to see what it. would be like in some sense without living it to be poor and to open up your. heart and your mind to these fantastic people coming. into the. | But the way. she looked at working in a public hospital as she says in. the excerpt in, the play she goes: But to me you have a tremendous opportunity to see what it would be like in some sense without living it to be. poor and. to open up your heart and your mind to, these, fantastic people coming into the | but the way she looked at working in a public hospital, as she says in the excerpt in the play, she goes: but to me you have a tremendous opportunity to see what it would be like in some sense, without living it, to be poor and to open up your heart and your mind to these fantastic people coming into the hospital. |
What a fantastic way to think about things. And too rare in our country. It was that - during Katrina she worked as doctor and as a - at Charity, a public hospital, some say the oldest in America, or it was - its now closed - for some time, with the belief that she could take care of poor people as well as she could ta... | what a, fantastic way to. think about things and too rare in our, country it was that; - during katrina she worked as doctor and. as a - at charity a public, hospital some say the oldest in america or it was - its now closed - for some time with the belief that she could; take, care of poor people, as well as she could... | What a, fantastic way to, think. about things And too rare in our country It was that - during. Katrina she worked as doctor and as a - at. Charity a public hospital some say the oldest, in America, or it was; - its now closed - for some, time with the belief that she could take care of poor people as well as she could... | what a fantastic way to think about things. and too rare in our country. it was that - during katrina she worked as doctor and as a - at charity, a public hospital, some say the oldest in america, or it was - its now closed - for some time, with the belief that she could take care of poor people as well as she could ta... |
Right. | right. | ||
rescued was a shocking thing to her, to see that her patients and the nurses just had to go on as if business was as was business as usual, making the best of flashlights when they had no electricity and 106 degrees and no food. This was an eye-opener to her, knowing very well that private hospitals had gotten the peo... | rescued was a shocking thing to her to see that. her patients. and the nurses just had to go on as if business was as was business, as usual making the best of flashlights when they. had no electricity and 106 degrees and no food this was an eye-opener to her knowing very well that, private hospitals had gotten the pe... | rescued was. a shocking, thing. to her to, see; that her patients and the nurses just had to go on as if business was, as was, business as; usual making the best of flashlights when they had no electricity and 106 degrees and no food, This was an eye-opener to her knowing very. well that private hospitals had gotten t... | rescued was a shocking thing to her, to see that her patients and the nurses just had to go on as if business was as was business as usual, making the best of flashlights when they had no electricity and 106 degrees and no food. this was an eye-opener to her, knowing very well that private hospitals had gotten the peo... |
Yeah. It was and this whole thing of putting your people youre putting people in other shoes that they would not normally be is part of the theme of the play. 1-800-989-8255. Lets see if I can get a question or two before I want to go to the cowboy. Youll hear about the cowboy. Jennifer in New York, hi. Welcome to SC... | yeah it was and, this whole thing of putting your people youre putting people in other shoes that they would not normally be is part of the theme of the play 1-800-989-8255. lets, see if i can; get a question or two before i want to go, to the cowboy youll hear. about the cowboy jennifer in new, york hi welcome to sc... | Yeah It was and this whole thing of putting your people, youre putting. people in other shoes that they would not normally be is part of the theme of the play 1-800-989-8255. Lets see if I can get a question or two before I want to go to the cowboy Youll hear about the. cowboy Jennifer in New York hi Welcome to SCIEN... | yeah. it was and this whole thing of putting your people youre putting people in other shoes that they would not normally be is part of the theme of the play. 1-800-989-8255. lets see if i can get a question or two before i want to go to the cowboy. youll hear about the cowboy. jennifer in new york, hi. welcome to sc... |
Hi, Anna, thank you so much for your work. Im a Masters student in Columbia Universitys new narrative medicine program out of the medical school. | hi anna thank you, so much for, your work im a masters student in columbia universitys; new narrative medicine program out of the medical | Hi Anna thank you so much for, your work Im a Masters student in; Columbia Universitys new narrative medicine; program out of the medical | hi, anna, thank you so much for your work. im a masters student in columbia universitys new narrative medicine program out of the medical school. |
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