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Perhaps, but we've been up to our knees and elbows in this for several weeks, and maybe I'm becoming a bit desensitized to it.	perhaps but we've been up to our knees and elbows in this for several weeks; and maybe i'm becoming a bit desensitized to	Perhaps but we've been up, to our knees and elbows in this for several weeks and maybe I'm becoming; a bit desensitized to,	perhaps, but we've been up to our knees and elbows in this for several weeks, and maybe i'm becoming a bit desensitized to it.
That desensitized person is Nichole Doub, head conservator here at the Maryland Archaeological Conservation Laboratory. The complex is on the shore of the Patuxent River and is now full of dark, wet timbers from the mystery ship.	that, desensitized person is nichole doub head conservator here at the maryland archaeological conservation. laboratory the complex is on the shore of the patuxent river and is; now full of dark wet timbers from the mystery	That desensitized person is Nichole. Doub; head conservator here at the Maryland Archaeological Conservation Laboratory The complex is on the shore of the Patuxent River and is now, full of dark wet timbers from the mystery	that desensitized person is nichole doub, head conservator here at the maryland archaeological conservation laboratory. the complex is on the shore of the patuxent river and is now full of dark, wet timbers from the mystery ship.
This is the largest piece of the ship. It's called the apron.	this, is the largest piece of the ship it's called the	This is the largest piece of. the ship It's called the	this is the largest piece of the ship. it's called the apron.
It weighs in at 540 pounds. Doub puts the vessel's size at about 60 or so feet. She guesses it was a work boat, very solidly built, and used to transport cargo up and down the Hudson River and along the East Coast in the 1700s.	it weighs in at 540 pounds doub, puts the vessel's size at about 60 or so feet, she guesses it was a. work boat, very solidly built and used to transport cargo up and down the hudson river and along the east coast, in the	It weighs in at 540 pounds Doub puts the vessel's size; at about 60 or so feet She guesses it was a. work, boat very solidly built and, used to transport cargo up and down the Hudson River and along the, East Coast in the	it weighs in at 540 pounds. doub puts the vessel's size at about 60 or so feet. she guesses it was a work boat, very solidly built, and used to transport cargo up and down the hudson river and along the east coast in the 1700s.
And the recent discovery of a coin, in a very special place, means they're going to have to call a coin specialist. Here's Sara Rivers Cofield, another curator.	and, the recent discovery of a coin in a very special. place means they're going to have. to call, a coin specialist here's sara rivers cofield another	And the recent discovery of a. coin in a very special place means they're going, to have, to call a coin specialist Here's Sara Rivers Cofield another	and the recent discovery of a coin, in a very special place, means they're going to have to call a coin specialist. here's sara rivers cofield, another curator.
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No, I didn't. I was bothered, perhaps like some men were, by the fact that it was a men's-only march. Clearly, at some point, they said women were welcome, but they really wanted it to be a march where black men came together to embrace, you know, this notion of atoning for their sins. And for me,...	no i didn't i was bothered perhaps like some men were by the fact that it was, a men's-only march clearly at some point they said women were welcome but they really wanted it to be a march where black men came together to embrace you know this notion of atoning for their sins and for me. i thought...	No I didn't I was bothered perhaps, like some men were by the fact that it, was; a men's-only march Clearly at some point they said women were welcome but they really wanted it to be a march where black men. came together to embrace you know. this notion of atoning for their sins And for. me I tho...	no, i didn't. i was bothered, perhaps like some men were, by the fact that it was a men's-only march. clearly, at some point, they said women were welcome, but they really wanted it to be a march where black men came together to embrace, you know, this notion of atoning for their sins. and for me,...
So what did you do instead of going? What sort of reflections did you have as you saw the march play out and the aftermath?	so what did you do instead of going? what sort of reflections. did you have as you saw the march play out and the	So what did you do instead of going? What sort of. reflections did you have. as you saw the march play out and the	so what did you do instead of going? what sort of reflections did you have as you saw the march play out and the aftermath?
Well, I spent some time with one of my best friends, an African-American male, and I watched the march, the coverage of it on television with him. At some point we embraced because it really did have a powerful impact on us at the time. So I acknowledge that, in that regard. And also I was fortuna...	well i spent some time with one. of my best friends an african-american male and i watched the march the. coverage of it on, television, with him at some, point we embraced because. it really did have a powerful impact on us at the time so i acknowledge that in that regard and also, i was fortunat...	Well I spent some time with one of my best friends an African-American male and. I watched the march the coverage. of it, on television with him At some point. we embraced because it really. did have a powerful impact on us at the time So I acknowledge, that in that regard And also I was fortunate...	well, i spent some time with one of my best friends, an african-american male, and i watched the march, the coverage of it on television with him. at some point we embraced because it really did have a powerful impact on us at the time. so i acknowledge that, in that regard. and also i was fortuna...
You had a problem with the exclusion not just of women but also of gay and lesbian African-Americans. Are things different or better this time around?	you had a problem with the exclusion not just of women but also; of gay, and lesbian african-americans are things. different or better this time	You had a problem with the exclusion; not just of women but also of gay and lesbian African-Americans Are, things different or. better this time	you had a problem with the exclusion not just of women but also of gay and lesbian african-americans. are things different or better this time around?
I'd like to say so, at least on the surface. When Louis Farrakhan embraced Keith Bokyin back in February, there was this feeling, I know, about many folks who've been organizing in the black gay community that somehow the march was going to open it up to be inclusive to so many folks. Where I real...	i'd like to say so at least on the surface when, louis farrakhan embraced keith bokyin back in february there was this feeling i know about many folks who've been organizing in the black gay, community that, somehow the march was going to open, it up to be inclusive to so many folks where i really...	I'd like to say. so at least on the surface, When Louis Farrakhan embraced Keith, Bokyin back in February there was this feeling, I know about many folks, who've, been organizing in the black gay community that somehow the march was going to open it, up to be, inclusive to so many folks Where I re...	i'd like to say so, at least on the surface. when louis farrakhan embraced keith bokyin back in february, there was this feeling, i know, about many folks who've been organizing in the black gay community that somehow the march was going to open it up to be inclusive to so many folks. where i real...
Last quick question, are you going to this march?	last quick question are you going to this	Last, quick question are you going to. this	last quick question, are you going to this march?
I will not be going to this march. One of the ways that I hope to celebrate the march and celebrate the movement is to spend it with my family, my two daughters and my wife. I'm really concerned at this point in time around the idea of the march. You know, someone had suggested, for instance, tha...	i will not be going to this march one of the ways that i hope to celebrate the march and celebrate the movement is to spend it with my family my two, daughters and my, wife i'm really concerned at this point in time around the. idea of the march you. know someone had suggested for instance that t...	I will not be going to this march One of the ways, that I hope to celebrate the march and celebrate the, movement is to spend, it with my family my two daughters and my wife I'm really concerned at, this point in time around the idea of the march. You know someone, had suggested for instance. tha...	i will not be going to this march. one of the ways that i hope to celebrate the march and celebrate the movement is to spend it with my family, my two daughters and my wife. i'm really concerned at this point in time around the idea of the march. you know, someone had suggested, for instance, tha...
Thanks, Mark.	thanks	Thanks	thanks, mark.
Mark Anthony Neal is a professor at Duke University and author of "The New Black Man."	mark anthony neal is a professor at duke university and author of "the new, black	Mark Anthony. Neal is a professor at Duke. University and author of "The New Black	mark anthony neal is a professor at duke university and author of "the new black man."
Appreciate you joining us.	appreciate you joining	Appreciate you joining	appreciate you joining us.
Thank you, Farai.	thank you;	Thank you	thank you, farai.
This is NEWS & NOTES. I'm Ed Gordon.	this is news & notes i'm ed	This is NEWS & NOTES I'm Ed	this is news & notes. i'm ed gordon.
On today's roundtable, blacks in Mexico speak up for recognition and a hot sauce called Burn Baby Burn. From our headquarters in Washington, DC, Joe Davidson, an editor at The Washington Post. Joining us from the radio--no, I'm sorry. We have a replacement. That's George Curry. George Curry's jo...	on, today's roundtable blacks in mexico, speak up for recognition and a hot. sauce called burn baby burn, from our headquarters in washington dc joe davidson an editor at the washington post joining us from the radio--no i'm sorry we have a replacement, that's george curry george curry's joined ...	On today's roundtable blacks in Mexico speak, up for recognition and a hot sauce called Burn Baby Burn From our headquarters, in Washington, DC Joe Davidson an editor at The Washington, Post Joining us from the radio--no I'm sorry We have a replacement That's. George Curry George Curry's joined ...	on today's roundtable, blacks in mexico speak up for recognition and a hot sauce called burn baby burn. from our headquarters in washington, dc, joe davidson, an editor at the washington post. joining us from the radio--no, i'm sorry. we have a replacement. that's george curry. george curry's jo...
All right. Let's get into a conversation that we had just moments ago and that is the question of the labor woes that we see coming out of the convention, the AFL-CIO convention in Chicago, but one of the peripheral worries comes from the Democratic Party. George Curry, for years, labor has been a...	all right let's get into a conversation that; we had just moments ago and. that is, the. question of the labor woes that. we see coming out of the convention the afl-cio convention in chicago but one of the peripheral worries comes from the democratic party george curry for years labor. has been a...	All right Let's. get into a conversation. that we. had just moments ago and; that is the question of the labor woes that we see coming out of the convention the AFL-CIO, convention in Chicago, but one of, the peripheral worries comes from, the Democratic Party George Curry for years labor has been...	all right. let's get into a conversation that we had just moments ago and that is the question of the labor woes that we see coming out of the convention, the afl-cio convention in chicago, but one of the peripheral worries comes from the democratic party. george curry, for years, labor has been a...
Labor is as about as reliable--not quite, but almost as reliable as far as African-American votes for the Democratic Party. So it's one of its main core constituents. I think that this has implications because part of the problem was the dispute among the different groups and different labor union...	labor is as about, as reliable--not quite but almost as reliable as far as, african-american votes for the democratic party so it's one of its main core constituents i think that, this has implications because part of, the problem was the dispute among the different groups and different labor. uni...	Labor, is as about as, reliable--not quite but almost, as reliable as far as African-American votes for the Democratic Party So it's one of its main; core constituents I think that this has implications because part of the problem was the. dispute among the different groups and. different, labor u...	labor is as about as reliable--not quite, but almost as reliable as far as african-american votes for the democratic party. so it's one of its main core constituents. i think that this has implications because part of the problem was the dispute among the different groups and different labor union...
Joseph C. Phillips, some are suggesting that this is an opening, if you will, for Republicans to make overtures to Democrats, where before--or I'm sorry, to labor unions, where before they had really written that off as a foregone conclusion that these unions and their workers would vote Democratic.	joseph c phillips some are suggesting that this is an opening if you will for republicans to make overtures to democrats where before--or i'm sorry, to labor unions where before they had really written that off as a foregone conclusion that these unions and their workers would vote	Joseph, C, Phillips some are, suggesting that this is an opening if you will for Republicans to make overtures to Democrats where before--or I'm sorry. to labor unions where before they had really written that off as. a foregone conclusion that these unions and their workers would vote	joseph c. phillips, some are suggesting that this is an opening, if you will, for republicans to make overtures to democrats, where before--or i'm sorry, to labor unions, where before they had really written that off as a foregone conclusion that these unions and their workers would vote democratic.
Mr. JOSEPH C. PHILLIPS (Actor/Syndicated Columnist): Yeah. My understanding is that Republicans, even during all of this commotion at the convention, have kind of been standing on the sidelines. And I think the reason ultimately is that, you know, workers are going to follow their best interests ...	mr joseph c phillips (actor/syndicated columnist): yeah my understanding is; that republicans even during all, of this commotion at the convention have kind of been standing on the sidelines and, i think the reason ultimately is that you know workers are going to follow their best interests and; ...	Mr JOSEPH C PHILLIPS (Actor/Syndicated Columnist): Yeah My understanding is that Republicans. even during all of this commotion. at the convention have kind of been standing on the sidelines And I think. the reason ultimately is that. you know. workers are going to follow their best interests and...	mr. joseph c. phillips (actor/syndicated columnist): yeah. my understanding is that republicans, even during all of this commotion at the convention, have kind of been standing on the sidelines. and i think the reason ultimately is that, you know, workers are going to follow their best interests ...
Except--well, there's a problem with that, Joe. The problem is that the Republican Party is very much, very much pro-business, and that's the opposite of labor, and that's why I don't think they'll be able to do it.	except--well there's, a problem with that joe the problem, is. that the republican party is very much very much pro-business and that's the opposite. of labor and that's why, i don't think. they'll be able to do	Except--well there's a problem with that Joe The problem is that the. Republican Party is very much very much pro-business and that's the opposite of. labor and that's why I don't think they'll, be able. to do	except--well, there's a problem with that, joe. the problem is that the republican party is very much, very much pro-business, and that's the opposite of labor, and that's why i don't think they'll be able to do it.
Vivus hopes the FDA will agree those benefits will outweigh some of the risks, including the concerns about birth defects. The company is submitting new data it says show that the risk is lower than it had been feared. Vivus also has a plan to minimize the chances that pregnant women will take it. Some see Qnexa as a t...	vivus hopes the fda, will agree those, benefits will outweigh some, of the risks including the, concerns about, birth defects the company is submitting new data it says show that the risk is lower than, it had been feared vivus also has a plan to minimize the chances that pregnant, women will take it some see qnexa as ...	Vivus hopes the FDA will agree those benefits will outweigh some of the risks including the concerns about birth defects The company is submitting new data it. says show that. the risk is lower than it had been feared Vivus also. has a plan to minimize the chances that pregnant women will take it Some see Qnexa as a te...	vivus hopes the fda will agree those benefits will outweigh some of the risks, including the concerns about birth defects. the company is submitting new data it says show that the risk is lower than it had been feared. vivus also has a plan to minimize the chances that pregnant women will take it. some see qnexa as a t...
I need to lose 20 more pounds again, and I need the help, because I've been trying really hard to get this 20 pounds back off.	i need to lose 20 more; pounds again and i need the help because i've been, trying really hard to get this 20 pounds back	I need to lose 20 more pounds again and I need the help because I've, been trying really hard to get this. 20 pounds; back	i need to lose 20 more pounds again, and i need the help, because i've been trying really hard to get this 20 pounds back off.
The dilemma for the FDA is figuring out the right balance of risks and benefits for powerful weight loss drugs like Qnexa. Whatever it decides, the agency has already scheduled a two-day hearing next month to help figure out the best way to judge obesity drugs. Rob Stein, NPR News.	the dilemma for. the fda is figuring out the right balance of risks and benefits for powerful weight loss drugs like qnexa whatever it. decides the agency has already scheduled a two-day hearing next month to help figure out the best way to judge obesity drugs rob stein npr	The dilemma for the, FDA is figuring, out the. right balance of risks and benefits for powerful weight loss drugs, like Qnexa Whatever it decides the agency has already scheduled a, two-day hearing next month to help figure out the best way to judge, obesity drugs Rob Stein NPR	the dilemma for the fda is figuring out the right balance of risks and benefits for powerful weight loss drugs like qnexa. whatever it decides, the agency has already scheduled a two-day hearing next month to help figure out the best way to judge obesity drugs. rob stein, npr news.
It's MORNING EDITION from NPR News. Good morning. I'm Steve Inskeep.	it's morning edition from npr news good morning i'm steve.	It's MORNING EDITION from NPR News Good; morning I'm Steve	it's morning edition from npr news. good morning. i'm steve inskeep.
NPR's John Ydstie begins our coverage.	npr's john ydstie begins our	NPR's John Ydstie begins our	npr's john ydstie begins our coverage.
As he unveiled his plan yesterday, the president criticized Chairman Ryan's proposal for not keeping America's promise to care for its senior citizens.	as he unveiled his plan yesterday the president criticized chairman ryan's proposal, for not; keeping america's promise to, care for, its senior	As he unveiled. his plan yesterday the president criticized Chairman Ryan's proposal for not keeping America's promise to care for its senior.	as he unveiled his plan yesterday, the president criticized chairman ryan's proposal for not keeping america's promise to care for its senior citizens.
It says that 10 years from now, if you're a 65-year-old who's eligible for Medicare, you should have to pay nearly $6,400 dollars more than you would today.	it says that. 10 years from now if you're a 65-year-old who's eligible for medicare you should have to pay nearly $6,400 dollars more than you would	It says that 10 years from now if you're a 65-year-old who's eligible for Medicare you should have to pay nearly $6,400 dollars more than you would	it says that 10 years from now, if you're a 65-year-old who's eligible for medicare, you should have to pay nearly $6,400 dollars more than you would today.
Yet, said the president, Ryan believes that at the same time...	yet said the, president ryan believes that at. the same	Yet said the president Ryan believes that at the same	yet, said the president, ryan believes that at the same time...
We can somehow afford more than $1 trillion in new tax breaks for the wealthy.	we can somehow afford more than $1 trillion in new tax breaks for the	We can somehow afford, more than $1 trillion in new tax breaks for the.	we can somehow afford more than $1 trillion in new tax breaks for the wealthy.
Maya MacGuineas, who heads the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget at the New America Foundation, says the president's proposal shows he's finally seriously engaging in the deficit discussion. But she says the president's plan is short on specifics and should do more to reduce deficits.	maya macguineas who heads the committee for a responsible federal budget at the new america foundation says the president's proposal, shows he's finally seriously engaging in the deficit discussion but she says the president's plan is short on. specifics and should, do, more; to reduce	Maya MacGuineas who heads the Committee. for a Responsible Federal Budget at, the New America Foundation, says the president's proposal shows he's finally seriously engaging in; the deficit discussion But she says the president's plan is short, on specifics and should do more to, reduce	maya macguineas, who heads the committee for a responsible federal budget at the new america foundation, says the president's proposal shows he's finally seriously engaging in the deficit discussion. but she says the president's plan is short on specifics and should do more to reduce deficits.
If you look at what Congressman Ryan did, he put out a huge, bold plan, very detailed, and very courageous, because it's hard. You can see, he's going to get beaten up for it. The president wasn't as courageous in what he laid out there, but want he did do is put out something that's doable.	if. you look at what congressman ryan did he put out a huge bold plan very detailed and very courageous because it's hard you can see he's going to get beaten up for it the president. wasn't. as. courageous in what he, laid out there but want he did do is put out something that's	If you look at what Congressman Ryan did he put out a huge bold plan very detailed and very courageous because it's hard You can see he's, going to get beaten up. for it The president wasn't as courageous in what he. laid out there, but want he did do is put out something that's	if you look at what congressman ryan did, he put out a huge, bold plan, very detailed, and very courageous, because it's hard. you can see, he's going to get beaten up for it. the president wasn't as courageous in what he laid out there, but want he did do is put out something that's doable.
Robert Greenstein of the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, a progressive think tank, takes issue with describing Chairman Ryan's proposal as courageous.	robert greenstein of the center for budget and policy priorities a progressive think tank takes issue with describing chairman ryan's proposal as	Robert Greenstein of the Center. for Budget and Policy Priorities a progressive think. tank takes issue with describing Chairman Ryan's proposal as	robert greenstein of the center for budget and policy priorities, a progressive think tank, takes issue with describing chairman ryan's proposal as courageous.
I don't think it's very courageous to say we're going to really eviscerate programs from the weakest people in the society who don't have political clout and have no lobbyists on K Street.	i don't think it's very courageous to say we're going to really eviscerate programs from the weakest people. in the society who don't have political clout and have no lobbyists on k	I don't; think it's very courageous to say we're going to really eviscerate programs from the weakest people in the society who don't have political clout and have no lobbyists on K	i don't think it's very courageous to say we're going to really eviscerate programs from the weakest people in the society who don't have political clout and have no lobbyists on k street.
But Brian Reidl of the conservative Heritage Foundation sees it differently.	but brian reidl of the conservative heritage foundation sees it	But Brian Reidl of the conservative Heritage Foundation sees it	but brian reidl of the conservative heritage foundation sees it differently.
Because it gives governors flexibility to innovate and to save costs by block granting the program. And so I think you might see a Washington that's meddling less in the innovative ideas that governors have.	because it, gives governors flexibility to innovate and to save costs. by block granting, the program and so i think you might see a washington that's meddling less in the innovative ideas that governors	Because it gives governors flexibility to innovate and to save costs by block granting the. program And so I think you might see a Washington that's meddling less in the. innovative ideas, that governors	because it gives governors flexibility to innovate and to save costs by block granting the program. and so i think you might see a washington that's meddling less in the innovative ideas that governors have.
Over the long term, Chairman Ryan's plan offers a vision of a much smaller government with dramatically different healthcare programs, says Maya MacGuineas. Meanwhile, the president sees the government providing most of the services it currently does, only more efficiently. That may not be visionary, says MacGuineas, b...	over the long, term chairman, ryan's plan offers a vision of a much smaller government with dramatically different healthcare programs says maya macguineas meanwhile the president sees the government providing most of; the services it currently does; only more efficiently that may, not be visionary says. macguineas.	Over the long term Chairman Ryan's plan offers a vision of a much smaller government. with dramatically different healthcare programs says Maya MacGuineas Meanwhile, the president sees the government providing most of, the services it currently does only more, efficiently That may not be. visionary says MacGuineas	over the long term, chairman ryan's plan offers a vision of a much smaller government with dramatically different healthcare programs, says maya macguineas. meanwhile, the president sees the government providing most of the services it currently does, only more efficiently. that may not be visionary, says macguineas, b...