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t1_jiwiiie | The dual chat is amazing! | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-05T00:28:45 | hwpoison | false | null | 0 | jiwiiie | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137hpzb/lmm_battle_arena/jiwiiie/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiwigia | Stability AI screwed their first effort up royally, but their second attempt at training a commercial use model from the ground up is supposedly meeting or exceeding llama.
There are a few alternative projects going on to effectively replicate llama with a commercial license too.
I bet we'll have a commercial use lic... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-05T00:28:18 | teachersecret | false | null | 0 | jiwigia | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiwigia/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwhojw | I have around 1 token/s on 11400f, llama 65b. You must have something configured inefficiently since 13900k should be much faster than this. Based on my result, you should be getting the best performance by running llama.cpp with 7 threads | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-05T00:22:04 | FullOf_Bad_Ideas | false | null | 0 | jiwhojw | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137jx4i/does_a_65b_model_feel_remotely_like_a_chatgpt/jiwhojw/ | false | 3 |
t1_jiwhdvd | I feel like you have to start the discussion with Adobe considering they basically did this. | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-05T00:19:45 | dyselon | false | null | 0 | jiwhdvd | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiwhdvd/ | false | 3 |
t1_jiwhckq | Used this analogy today | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-05T00:19:28 | PookaMacPhellimen | false | null | 0 | jiwhckq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1380rx8/longterm_memory/jiwhckq/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwh33e | That's cool, can't wait to see what comes of it with regards to services/games. The coding is beyond me, but I figure this should have enough appeal to become a product (or hopefully some open model). I still have some fears about memory but these things are tweaked every day it seems so hopefully we're not approaching... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-05T00:17:22 | capybooya | false | null | 0 | jiwh33e | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137l61f/is_what_i_need_possible_currently/jiwh33e/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwfzil | This really does show how OpenAI going closed source was the wrong move, in the long run. There’s nothing sufficiently obscure from a technical perspective to prevent the open source community from catching up. Aside from access to hardware which can be mitigated through crowdfunding, university research, and shared co... | 7 | 0 | 2023-05-05T00:08:46 | AemonAlgizVideos | false | null | 0 | jiwfzil | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiwfzil/ | false | 7 |
t1_jiwf0yq | No joke one of my side projects right now is to finish the Winds of Winter before GRM lol. | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-05T00:01:04 | GrandDemand | false | null | 0 | jiwf0yq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137jx4i/does_a_65b_model_feel_remotely_like_a_chatgpt/jiwf0yq/ | false | 3 |
t1_jiwedok | tryna run it on ubuntu | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:55:55 | Affectionate_Bat9693 | false | null | 0 | jiwedok | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13774vr/zeroconfig_desktop_app_for_running_llama/jiwedok/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwd8j8 | 30B? forget it lmao you'd be lucky to run 7 | -2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:47:02 | DirtCrazykid | false | null | 0 | jiwd8j8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiwd8j8/ | false | -2 |
t1_jiwcptb | WTF happened to lamda? Or did character AI really walk away with it? | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:42:56 | a_beautiful_rhind | false | null | 0 | jiwcptb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiwcptb/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiwcovi | It's only been 5 months, about 2 months since Vicuna. imagine in one year. | 11 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:42:44 | hwpoison | false | null | 0 | jiwcovi | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiwcovi/ | false | 11 |
t1_jiwcf0k | I think StableVicuna-13B would also be good. Seems to be better than Vicuna-13B :) Awesome work. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:40:35 | BunnySwag5511 | false | null | 0 | jiwcf0k | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1376oho/introducing_wizardvicunalm_combining_wizardlm_and/jiwcf0k/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwccn7 | [deleted] | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:40:04 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jiwccn7 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1376oho/introducing_wizardvicunalm_combining_wizardlm_and/jiwccn7/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwbpir | Yes, it will run, very slowly. | 4 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:35:08 | ptitrainvaloin | false | null | 0 | jiwbpir | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiwbpir/ | false | 4 |
t1_jiwblfc | Thank you for saving me a download. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:34:14 | a_beautiful_rhind | false | null | 0 | jiwblfc | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1376oho/introducing_wizardvicunalm_combining_wizardlm_and/jiwblfc/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiwbl0b | [deleted] | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:34:08 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jiwbl0b | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jiwbl0b/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwawz7 | The core issue, at least for artists who actually care about art. Is the replacement itself not money. They aren't going to be happy with computers destroying their passion and displacing them in the field that forms their self identity just because they get a check to cover a few sandwiches and a coke every month. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:28:51 | cyborgsnowflake | false | null | 0 | jiwawz7 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiwawz7/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwaini | I see, may be I should try vicuna 13 b first. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:25:45 | zetskyzone | false | null | 0 | jiwaini | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiwaini/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiwai7m | That GPU will run 7B 4bit 128g with a lower context window ~1024 tokens. But once you start adding LoRA's it's not even worth the effort to make it work. I'm enjoying my 7B Aleksey Korshuk Vicuna on a 1660Ti mobile GPU, but I'm itching to upgrade. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:25:39 | Street-Biscotti-4544 | false | null | 0 | jiwai7m | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiwai7m/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw7hnj | Haha I made the realization the other week that GPT is like the guy from Memento, with anterograde amnesia.
GPT has long term memory emerging from the neural network training, but cannot form new memories, however it does have the immediate working memory (context). | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:02:33 | spirilis | false | null | 0 | jiw7hnj | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1380rx8/longterm_memory/jiw7hnj/ | false | 5 |
t1_jiw7grq | It takes just about 20GB (for a GGML q4_2 model). With only 32GB, it's kind of a pain for me to run 30B models and also a bit slower than I'd like. I honestly have to say it feels like Vicuna 13B is just better than everything else I've tried, even 30B models. I'd definitely try a Vicuna 30B though. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:02:22 | KerfuffleV2 | false | null | 0 | jiw7grq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiw7grq/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiw7fdd | Funny that after reading your post, it convinced me to have another stab at WSL with triton (last time I tried was back in March and struggled getting GPTQ to install and that was without triton).
Anyway specs are:
5900x, 128GB RAM, 4090, 1TB SN850 and 4TB P3 Pro.
I haven't tried many models since spending the morni... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T23:02:04 | unchima | false | 2023-05-04T23:07:48 | 0 | jiw7fdd | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jiw7fdd/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw6xsm | I would love to see the dataset from StableVicuna mix with the Wizard instruct evol technique, for me StableVicuna is the absulute king on the 13B models. How this compares to StableVicuna? | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:58:18 | ImpactFrames-YT | false | null | 0 | jiw6xsm | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1376oho/introducing_wizardvicunalm_combining_wizardlm_and/jiw6xsm/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw6x47 | [deleted] | 13 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:58:10 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jiw6x47 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiw6x47/ | false | 13 |
t1_jiw6mbc | Thanks. I have similar CPU (5600h), so I have high hopes now. How much disk space did you need for the 30B model? | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:55:54 | zetskyzone | false | null | 0 | jiw6mbc | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiw6mbc/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiw638g | Thanks. Yeah GPU is not adequate, that's for sure. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:51:56 | zetskyzone | false | null | 0 | jiw638g | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiw638g/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw5oq5 | > Don’t tell that an environmentalist.
Depends on the source. Nuclear, solar, or wind are as close to a free lunch as humanity can currently get. Solar is currently cheaper than natural gas per MWh, so let the GPUs go brrrrr. | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:48:52 | Thalesian | false | null | 0 | jiw5oq5 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiw5oq5/ | false | 3 |
t1_jiw542q | That’s great! I would really appreciate it if you could put it on github for me to check out.
I haven’t played around with GDextensions much yet. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:44:29 | Official_CDcruz | false | null | 0 | jiw542q | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1377o2v/has_anyone_got_this_running_in_godot/jiw542q/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw4pri | 32GB RAM is enough to run a 30B 4bit model, so you're absolutely fine on memory. It will definitely run, the question is how fast.
I have a pretty old Ryzen 5 1600 and I get around 1.1-1.3 tokens/sec. Assuming your laptop CPU is at least comparable, it's not glacially slow but it's not really fast enough for real time... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:41:29 | KerfuffleV2 | false | null | 0 | jiw4pri | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiw4pri/ | false | 3 |
t1_jiw4hps | Working on the exact same thing right now. My approach is to to use a llama.cpp shared library and hook it up to gdscript wirh gdextension. If you’re having trouble with it I could put it on GitHub. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:39:45 | pokeuser61 | false | null | 0 | jiw4hps | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1377o2v/has_anyone_got_this_running_in_godot/jiw4hps/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw4fhm | You definitely cannot run it via GPU. You might be able to run it via CPU, but you'll be waiting many minutes per generation. | 7 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:39:17 | Street-Biscotti-4544 | false | null | 0 | jiw4fhm | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiw4fhm/ | false | 7 |
t1_jiw3653 | Good luck! These models keep popping up so quickly that your work may be cut out for you. Btw, word is the lora version of wizardlm (13b) isn't as good, so if you feel like skipping it I don't think anyone would fault you, but if you're curious enough it might be worth validating the rumor.
I also have a sneaking susp... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:29:45 | lemon07r | false | null | 0 | jiw3653 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1376oho/introducing_wizardvicunalm_combining_wizardlm_and/jiw3653/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiw350w | They both are - and unfortunately this mix seems to not only have inherited that from them, but even reinforced it. Hopefully it can be redone with unfiltered versions of the originals once those are finished. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:29:31 | WolframRavenwolf | false | null | 0 | jiw350w | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1376oho/introducing_wizardvicunalm_combining_wizardlm_and/jiw350w/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiw332n | >Better examples of negative behavior are the ability to kill someone, to rape someone, to steal things from people, be deceitful etc.
Ok. Do you want to look at correlations between those things and intelligence? It looks like you're try to dismiss these as "uninteresting" - likely because you know what the results w... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:29:07 | QFTornotQFT | false | null | 0 | jiw332n | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/134kvmd/whats_your_take_on_the_plea_for_halting/jiw332n/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiw2wa2 | Honestly, the 7b model probably is actually better since that 13b one is lora trained | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:27:42 | lemon07r | false | null | 0 | jiw2wa2 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137hpzb/lmm_battle_arena/jiw2wa2/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw2pf4 | It looks like you shared an AMP link. These should load faster, but AMP is controversial because of [concerns over privacy and the Open Web](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmputatorBot/comments/ehrq3z/why_did_i_build_amputatorbot).
Maybe check out **the canonical page** instead: **[https://arstechnica.com/information-techno... | 0 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:26:17 | AmputatorBot | false | null | 0 | jiw2pf4 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137l61f/is_what_i_need_possible_currently/jiw2pf4/ | false | 0 |
t1_jiw2o6v | Oh we're there already.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/04/surprising-things-happen-when-you-put-25-ai-agents-together-in-an-rpg-town/amp/
You don't even need to train or fine tune necessarily. They just reserve a portion of the prompt for contextual information, like a virtual HUD, for the agent,... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:26:02 | Nearby_Yam286 | false | null | 0 | jiw2o6v | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137l61f/is_what_i_need_possible_currently/jiw2o6v/ | false | 3 |
t1_jiw2ch3 | After some testing it seems combining Wizard and Vicuna strengthened the censoring/moralizing stuff even more. Guess we'll have to wait for an unfiltered mix like this once the original model cleanups are done. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:23:38 | WolframRavenwolf | false | null | 0 | jiw2ch3 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1376oho/introducing_wizardvicunalm_combining_wizardlm_and/jiw2ch3/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw27n4 | Depends on your use case and patience. Why not just try it out? | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:22:39 | pokeuser61 | false | null | 0 | jiw27n4 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1381usi/laptop_good_enough_for_30b/jiw27n4/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw1peq | Thanx! It works OK on my PC (Ryzen 5 7600X).
It couldn't delete the models it downloaded (it says permission is denied). I assume running it as admin could solve the issue.
Would be better if it kept the models in the same folder as install and also allow to chose install folder. I only learnt where the model;s are... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:18:52 | HypokeimenonEshaton | false | null | 0 | jiw1peq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13774vr/zeroconfig_desktop_app_for_running_llama/jiw1peq/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiw1j7g | In this particular context? Any company with the funding to pay a bunch of scabs, such as visual artists or writers, to create a proprietary dataset that, when combined with confirmed open-source datasets, gives the company the resources to train a state of the art AI model that still impacts the industry the scabs cam... | 8 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:17:36 | E_Snap | false | null | 0 | jiw1j7g | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiw1j7g/ | false | 8 |
t1_jiw1gql | One thing to keep in mind is that it's still early days for running big-parameter LLMs locally. While Apple Silicon is particularly good at this, the tooling around it is not very mature. Even though Kobold and Oobabooga technically work with llama.cpp/ggml, their architecture makes for much slower performance. On the ... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:17:06 | SandBlaster2000AD | false | null | 0 | jiw1gql | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13710u8/anyone_actually_running_30b65b_at_reasonably_high/jiw1gql/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiw0rwe | When using the CPU, presumably you're not using Triton, right? Are you using ggml quantized weights instead? | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:12:04 | vanilla-acc | false | null | 0 | jiw0rwe | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jiw0rwe/ | false | 1 |
t1_jiw0r26 | Kind of off topic, but.. what do you consider a large company? | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:11:53 | evilbeatfarmer | false | null | 0 | jiw0r26 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiw0r26/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiw0qve | nah, not even 3.5, but its more smart than claude-instant x) | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:11:51 | LienniTa | false | null | 0 | jiw0qve | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137jx4i/does_a_65b_model_feel_remotely_like_a_chatgpt/jiw0qve/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivznoi | Are you doing an apples to apples comparison of llamacpp? The windows version needs to be compiled by hand to use various kinds of BLAS (apart from one version they put up last night), and the linux one probably just automatically selects what's best like CuBLAS. I expect oobabooga also has BLAS turned on. That's going... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:03:57 | ambient_temp_xeno | false | null | 0 | jivznoi | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jivznoi/ | false | 3 |
t1_jivzkvv | I just did a back of the envelope calc. 1M tokens for Ada-2 is 40 cents | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:03:23 | water_bottle_goggles | false | null | 0 | jivzkvv | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12qd48p/openai_embeddings_api_alternative/jivzkvv/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivza0p | only for you | 0 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:01:13 | LienniTa | false | null | 0 | jivza0p | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/135kh16/best_30b_4bit_model/jivza0p/ | false | 0 |
t1_jivz4ne | I would suspect that the open ai models are still more expensive even with Ada-2 models. But for the price you have to pay for a manage scaled service where it’s just an API call away still make openai a no brainer | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T22:00:10 | water_bottle_goggles | false | null | 0 | jivz4ne | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12qd48p/openai_embeddings_api_alternative/jivz4ne/ | false | 2 |
t1_jivz21l | Why do you not use them both o,O not like you need to run SD and LM at exactly the same time | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:59:39 | Faintly_glowing_fish | false | null | 0 | jivz21l | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137x4qg/discuss_gpu_configs_why_do_i_get_40_tokens_sec_on/jivz21l/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivz19v | My server has blow through fans so I got to skate on that..
On the flip side: Now the case doesn't close because my 3090 has power connectors on top. One thing or another, lol.
There are 3d printed cooling shrouds or you can just stick a fan onto it on either end if you have it in a normal PC. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:59:30 | a_beautiful_rhind | false | null | 0 | jivz19v | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13710u8/anyone_actually_running_30b65b_at_reasonably_high/jivz19v/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivy92t | How can I setup Open Assistant on my desktop? | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:54:02 | Akimbo333 | false | null | 0 | jivy92t | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/136kbfu/how_do_the_7b_13b_30b_and_65b_parameter_models/jivy92t/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivxs9t | >It stands to reason that having a processor with more physical cores like a 5950x for example would improve my cpu-only performance.
You might think that, but it's not *necessarily* true. Run a test with say 6 physical cores and compare with 12. The memory bandwidth is the limiting factor so it can be a surprise, dep... | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:50:51 | ambient_temp_xeno | false | null | 0 | jivxs9t | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jivxs9t/ | false | 5 |
t1_jivwc71 | [deleted] | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:40:55 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jivwc71 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137upg4/wizardvicuna13b_hugging_face/jivwc71/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivw7sa | Thank you, that's awesome! | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:40:05 | Away-Sleep-2010 | false | null | 0 | jivw7sa | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivw7sa/ | false | 2 |
t1_jivw0aj | The only way to win is to not play that game. Artists made a huge misstep by focusing on copyright issues rather than demanding UBI. They set themselves up for a scenario wherein a large company, like OpenAI, can just hire a bunch of artists to train a foundational model on content that they bought from the artists for... | 11 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:38:41 | E_Snap | false | null | 0 | jivw0aj | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivw0aj/ | false | 11 |
t1_jivtzpg | So based on the [wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/wiki/models/) for this sub, it might be possible for an RTX 4080 (16gb) and a P40 (24gb) as swap to support 30b 8-bit, or could just run a 12gb 3060 instead for 13b 8-bit which is at least better then normally running 13b 4-bit with a 3060. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:25:03 | -Automaticity | false | null | 0 | jivtzpg | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13783us/is_using_a_2nd_gpu_for_vram_swap_better_then/jivtzpg/ | false | 2 |
t1_jivt71x | I don't have an accurate explanation since I never did any of this. I read that you assign extra layers beyond your primary GPU to the 2nd.
This comment begins a thread talking about running multiple GPU's. The whole post conversation has more details about multi GPU. [https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12q... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:19:50 | -Automaticity | false | null | 0 | jivt71x | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13783us/is_using_a_2nd_gpu_for_vram_swap_better_then/jivt71x/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivsl8a | I am using linux and i use the default make command is there a better way ? | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:15:48 | Killerx7c | false | null | 0 | jivsl8a | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jivsl8a/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivs3ft | It's a matter of implementation, if you take Stable Diffusion as an example, the base model is able to do quite a lot with satisfactory but not wonderful results, however a quick glance at CivitAI can be very enlightening on it's capability for hyper-specialization.
If a properly fine-tuned model, regardless of param... | 6 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:12:32 | Rogerooo | false | null | 0 | jivs3ft | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivs3ft/ | false | 6 |
t1_jivqh9v | damnnn i don't know where i got the $50k figure from. I was thinking we could do a gofundme or something and get it done that way | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T21:02:01 | kevofasho | false | null | 0 | jivqh9v | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivqh9v/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivq0ot | Don’t tell that an environmentalist. | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:59:05 | goproai | false | null | 0 | jivq0ot | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivq0ot/ | false | 3 |
t1_jivpyhb | I did not try tweaking with the parameters though, maybe there's hope... but I'm not sure :) | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:58:41 | rustedbits | false | null | 0 | jivpyhb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13638nc/does_this_exist/jivpyhb/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivpuim | I tried both the HF loaded in 8 bits and GPTQ-4 bit, but sadly no good news. The 8 bits returned a JSON with a bunch of \\n inside, and the 4 bit gave me a completely incorrect response. They both seem to perform worse than WizardLM (which actualy did the first step successfully, but then fails along the way). **EDIT: ... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:58:00 | rustedbits | false | 2023-05-04T21:01:27 | 0 | jivpuim | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13638nc/does_this_exist/jivpuim/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivpjl7 | This is epic, as someone who's obsessed with testing and comparing these things, this makes me happy! This is my pet project that I'm working on:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NgHDxbVWJFolq8bLvLkuPWKC7i_R6I6W/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=102314596465921370523&rtpof=true&sd=true
..and it has a bunch of models alread... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:56:04 | YearZero | false | null | 0 | jivpjl7 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137hpzb/lmm_battle_arena/jivpjl7/ | false | 3 |
t1_jivox11 | Not currently. It is a large base model so maybe in time someone will do a specific finetune and it might be as good at that one thing. I am just guessing though. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:52:03 | ambient_temp_xeno | false | null | 0 | jivox11 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137jx4i/does_a_65b_model_feel_remotely_like_a_chatgpt/jivox11/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivoptu | I use prompts like expand on this, expand on the following, add more context, add more detail, describe this, etc. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:50:45 | Ok-Debt7712 | false | null | 0 | jivoptu | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/136kbfu/how_do_the_7b_13b_30b_and_65b_parameter_models/jivoptu/ | false | 2 |
t1_jivol7s | There's no task so big that it can't be broken down into 2-4k worth of context tokens. This of course hinges on very good preprocessing to make sure the large task is broken up into manageable chunks *properly*, and that it gets fed the *right* 2-4k tokens in order to do its job. There are initiatives like [SuperBIG]... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:49:54 | candre23 | false | 2023-05-05T10:50:36 | 0 | jivol7s | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivol7s/ | false | 3 |
t1_jivol1c | I'm just testing a few things first. It might take a while to get all the kinks ironed out and actually make sure it's performing as it should, so it's not going to be like a stable release or anything for quite a while. But unless something completely breaks I'm putting a github repo up very soon with at least some gr... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:49:52 | ReturningTarzan | false | 2023-05-04T23:19:29 | 0 | jivol1c | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13710u8/anyone_actually_running_30b65b_at_reasonably_high/jivol1c/ | false | 3 |
t1_jivofme | Again, meaningless without specifying the hardware. | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:48:54 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jivofme | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/135kh16/best_30b_4bit_model/jivofme/ | false | 3 |
t1_jivobti | This reads like OS ML enthusiast fan fiction. The models they link as being “indistinguishable” from ChatGPT are not even remotely comparable. | 6 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:48:12 | CanvasFanatic | false | null | 0 | jivobti | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivobti/ | false | 6 |
t1_jivktj9 | You really don't though. Just write an API to reddit and get Vicuna to argue against them.
In the meantime you can go on with your life. | 44 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:25:47 | JFHermes | false | null | 0 | jivktj9 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivktj9/ | false | 44 |
t1_jivk5pg | However, we'll have to drop the llama in favor of something with better *context window* eventually - there already concepts with huge or even unlimited context, tho I'm not sure how this different attention mechanisms impact the "reasoning capabilities" of LMMs. This is not, however, something that you can change by s... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:21:36 | BalorNG | false | null | 0 | jivk5pg | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivk5pg/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivjyzc | Awesome! How do you use it? | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:20:26 | Akimbo333 | false | null | 0 | jivjyzc | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/136kbfu/how_do_the_7b_13b_30b_and_65b_parameter_models/jivjyzc/ | false | 2 |
t1_jivjwbi | [deleted] | -2 | 1 | 2023-05-04T20:19:58 | [deleted] | true | 2023-05-04T21:19:23 | 0 | jivjwbi | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivjwbi/ | false | -2 |
t1_jivjuqx | I avoid using Windows at all times (because simple things take 10x as long and complex things are impossible), but this does not seem right to me.
Have you compiled everything on Windows from source? The compiler can, at its discretion, employ several optimization techniques -- loop unrolling, SIMD (SSE, AVX)... For G... | 8 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:19:41 | ericek111 | false | null | 0 | jivjuqx | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jivjuqx/ | false | 8 |
t1_jivjh5j | While a very interesting idea, and can be implemented locally, having to reload LORAs multiple times per session is likely to be SLOW.
A suite of models with preapplied LORAs queried HuggingGpt/Autogpt style is likely be much better, and I agree that likely will indeed work better "pound for pound", heh.
Now... unlike... | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:17:16 | BalorNG | false | 2023-05-04T20:23:00 | 0 | jivjh5j | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivjh5j/ | false | 5 |
t1_jivj9vh | We’re you running WSL? | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:15:55 | PookaMacPhellimen | false | null | 0 | jivj9vh | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jivj9vh/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivj7p3 | Yes. Similar performance to my windows install, but to be fair I don't think I had triton installed there. Might be a difference maker.
At this point I'm not going to bother reinstalling everything on WSL to test it out since I already spent a boatload of time getting it all working on a direct dual-boot. If someone w... | 8 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:15:31 | deepinterstate | false | null | 0 | jivj7p3 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jivj7p3/ | false | 8 |
t1_jiviccc | I think this should be taken as one opinion, not matter of facts per-se. | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:09:51 | goproai | false | null | 0 | jiviccc | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiviccc/ | false | 3 |
t1_jivia5m | Headless server+linux is the answer here.
On my windows rig, I struggle to get above 10t/sec on models using a 12gb 3080ti.
On linux (dual boot), I get damn near 40t/sec with the same model and same rig.
Also, something seems to be wrong with windows oobabooga right now. The version I picked up at the end of April (... | 11 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:09:28 | deepinterstate | false | null | 0 | jivia5m | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137x4qg/discuss_gpu_configs_why_do_i_get_40_tokens_sec_on/jivia5m/ | false | 11 |
t1_jivi6gj | [deleted] | 30 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:08:49 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jivi6gj | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivi6gj/ | false | 30 |
t1_jivi3pi | And did you try wsl? | 6 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:08:19 | kc858 | false | null | 0 | jivi3pi | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jivi3pi/ | false | 6 |
t1_jivi285 | My fear is that they are lagging behind OpenAI on their Bard, and nothing to show for the open source side as they watch LLaMA ecosystem takes off. | 10 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:08:02 | goproai | false | null | 0 | jivi285 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivi285/ | false | 10 |
t1_jivhogi | gpt-3 required $3.8M in electricity bills alone. (too lazy to lookup the source right now). | 4 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:05:32 | vittyvirus | false | null | 0 | jivhogi | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivhogi/ | false | 4 |
t1_jivhju2 | What were your t/s in windows? | 14 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:04:42 | DavidTrack1 | false | null | 0 | jivhju2 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137xn93/update_yeah_linux_is_a_lot_faster/jivhju2/ | false | 14 |
t1_jivhji8 | The gpt4-x-alpaca 30B 4 bit is just a little too large at 24.4GB so the next best would be vicuna 13B. Really though, running gpt4-x 30B on CPU wasn't that bad for me with llama.cpp. If gpt4 can be trimmed down somehow just a little, I think that would be the current best under 65B. If vicuna 30B is released and und... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:04:39 | aigoopy | false | null | 0 | jivhji8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137gm8h/what_model_do_you_run_on_a_24gb_card_30904090/jivhji8/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivgw0d | > but 500b-1T models like GPT4 trained AND finetuned on very high quality data
I disagree. Even companies that *can* afford massive datacenters stocked with petabytes of VRAM don't actually want to *have* to afford them, just to provide a commodity service.
The future is not in enormously resource-intensive monolith... | 15 | 0 | 2023-05-04T20:00:23 | candre23 | false | 2023-05-05T10:56:56 | 0 | jivgw0d | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivgw0d/ | false | 15 |
t1_jivfn91 | Google should be the first to release a fully open manageable model , and defend it from litigation and then that would become the new gold standard. But it seems Facebook stole their thunder there. There is already an ecosystem waiting for the fully open versions of Llama | 11 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:52:22 | frequenttimetraveler | false | null | 0 | jivfn91 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivfn91/ | false | 11 |
t1_jivf12p | the open source versions of the same models will solve that. but it s a shame that Meta isnt pressured to just make the model weights open source. It is trained on scraped data and even scraping the model weights themselves is legal after all, despite what FB terms say. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:48:21 | frequenttimetraveler | false | null | 0 | jivf12p | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivf12p/ | false | 2 |
t1_jiver5s | > They don't like it, because they cannot ~~control~~ make billions of dollars off of it.
FTFY | 9 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:46:35 | candre23 | false | null | 0 | jiver5s | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiver5s/ | false | 9 |
t1_jivehv9 | I can't give a better comment on this than an upvote. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:44:55 | NickUnrelatedToPost | false | null | 0 | jivehv9 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137dpd7/using_system_ram_as_swap_for_gpu/jivehv9/ | false | 2 |
t1_jivdji7 | Low bar, that last one :) | 7 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:38:40 | allredidit | false | null | 0 | jivdji7 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137jx4i/does_a_65b_model_feel_remotely_like_a_chatgpt/jivdji7/ | false | 7 |
t1_jivdjir | It's called Open Assistant. You can write gore, violence, and nsfw in general stuff with it. I use it to help me write descriptions. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:38:40 | Ok-Debt7712 | false | null | 0 | jivdjir | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/136kbfu/how_do_the_7b_13b_30b_and_65b_parameter_models/jivdjir/ | false | 2 |
t1_jivdh8t | I agree. I also upgraded to 64GB specifically to run large models and it's been disappointing. I could live with the speed if there was a payoff, but I don't find the 65B model I tried all that different from Vicuna 13B. I haven't run into any cases where I think it's appreciably better. | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:38:15 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jivdh8t | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137jx4i/does_a_65b_model_feel_remotely_like_a_chatgpt/jivdh8t/ | false | 3 |
t1_jivd46i | Technically, human level (synapses in cortex) is about 200T, so we have some way to go, it is not exactly "apples to apples", but sounds about right.
Also, admit it, do we want "human level"?
It is "superhuman" level where it is at :3
I mean, who would be impressed by chatgpt if it had capability (and knowledge!) of "... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:35:54 | BalorNG | false | null | 0 | jivd46i | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivd46i/ | false | 2 |
t1_jivcj15 | It should be possible to have a fine-tuned small model to match a "generalist" large model, like an idiot savant playing chess at grandmaster level but having trouble tying his shoelaces and lacking any social skills.
But a similarly finetuned large model WILL outperform smaller model, period - unless, of course, ther... | 13 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:32:02 | BalorNG | false | null | 0 | jivcj15 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivcj15/ | false | 13 |
t1_jivceax | It's move fast. It's moving so fast. The people making these things are the most competent on the planet. But they basically focus no energy on usability. As a result you get the helptext:
--top_k N: top-k sampling (default: 40, 0 = disabled)
Oh cool, now I know this is for top-k sampling I will think about it next t... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:31:11 | involviert | false | null | 0 | jivceax | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/131pe9k/textgen_guide_for_manual_windows_wsl2unbuntu/jivceax/ | false | 1 |
t1_jivc36v | Openllama and redpajama are coming | 9 | 0 | 2023-05-04T19:29:09 | TheTerrasque | false | null | 0 | jivc36v | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivc36v/ | false | 9 |
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