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t1_jivbydo
if we can assume a finite and very much reachable "low" optimum of, lets say, 1t parameters, perfectly tuned and finetuned, to hold an approximation of all the information we have to the degree of at least human level, then its propably inevitable that by 2030 we will all have our own super assistant 24/7 in our pocket...
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0
2023-05-04T19:28:17
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t1_jivbrf9
Fascinating. I'm impressed by how fast you're managing to run this off the M1 Max. I've heard the new apple chips are good for this sort of thing. 10t/sec would be absolutely workable. I might start considering mac studios for this... that would actually be a pretty elegant solution for what I'm building, especially co...
1
0
2023-05-04T19:27:02
deepinterstate
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jivbrf9
false
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t1_jivbqij
Save the prompts, this data can be used to train the models with reinforced learning
2
0
2023-05-04T19:26:52
GG9242
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jivbqij
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137hpzb/lmm_battle_arena/jivbqij/
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t1_jivaxxz
The cpp implementations don't actually do text generation on GPU, but they can utilize GPU in order to speed up prompt ingestion if properly configured, and that improves overall performance significantly. I used GPTQ as an antonym for GGML, I am sorry if I am incorrect. The thing is, one uses PyTorch, and another us...
4
0
2023-05-04T19:21:43
_Erilaz
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null
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jivaxxz
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137dpd7/using_system_ram_as_swap_for_gpu/jivaxxz/
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t1_jivawen
Extremely excited to see what you come up with. Got a github with some kind of preview up yet? :)
1
0
2023-05-04T19:21:27
deepinterstate
false
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jivawen
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13710u8/anyone_actually_running_30b65b_at_reasonably_high/jivawen/
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t1_jivat5m
When I run this with gpttriton from oobabooga im getting the error that its trying to load the bin files, do you know what that could be about?
1
0
2023-05-04T19:20:53
-General-Zero-
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jivat5m
false
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t1_jivaotn
Very important note from the article is ommited in your post: *We do not agree with what is written below, nor do other researchers we asked, but we will publish our opinions on this in a separate piece for subscribers.*
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0
2023-05-04T19:20:07
shirtshape
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false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivaotn/
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t1_jivanq3
Definitely excited to see what comes of this.
1
0
2023-05-04T19:19:54
deepinterstate
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t1_jivan8r
‘K’->>>’M’😅
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0
2023-05-04T19:19:49
goproai
false
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false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jivan8r/
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t1_jivamk5
Yeah, that's the way I'll go if I decide to get an A6000 (or something even crazier than that). I'll just rent one to test it out, then buy it if I like what I see. I definitely misunderstood what was being discussed there (I thought they were suggesting I just run these things in the cloud and forget about running it ...
1
0
2023-05-04T19:19:42
deepinterstate
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jivamk5
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13710u8/anyone_actually_running_30b65b_at_reasonably_high/jivamk5/
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t1_jivab4k
I did a bunch of testing on this over the course of the morning. What I learned is... more PHYSICAL cores seems to improve speed... but bumping into using the threads beyond those cores slows things down. So, on my 5900x I have 12 physical cores, with 24 threads. If I set it to use 10 threads, it's fast... if I set i...
2
0
2023-05-04T19:17:37
deepinterstate
false
null
0
jivab4k
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13710u8/anyone_actually_running_30b65b_at_reasonably_high/jivab4k/
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t1_jiva9fg
Extensions marketplace is a great idea. Thanks for the suggestion! I'll think about it more. The app uses Llama.cpp which has GPU support on the road map, so likely in the future!
1
0
2023-05-04T19:17:19
Snoo_72256
false
null
0
jiva9fg
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13774vr/zeroconfig_desktop_app_for_running_llama/jiva9fg/
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1
t1_jiva6g0
The incentive for another company to try to break Nvidia's monopoly is too large for it to not happen in the near future.
2
0
2023-05-04T19:16:47
AprilDoll
false
null
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jiva6g0
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiva6g0/
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t1_jiv9ydn
Yeah it doesn't sound like it.
1
0
2023-05-04T19:15:19
Akimbo333
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null
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jiv9ydn
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/136kbfu/how_do_the_7b_13b_30b_and_65b_parameter_models/jiv9ydn/
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t1_jiv9xhs
Well... maybe compared to Bard opensource local llms are cool (and the "uncensored" factor, right), but the models itself is from Facebook, and most interesting means of "instruct data mining" come from OpenAi models like gpt3.5/gpt4, which is still waaay ahead of anything out there it seems - even disregarding stuff ...
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0
2023-05-04T19:15:10
BalorNG
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null
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jiv9xhs
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiv9xhs/
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t1_jiv9wyy
Agreed! For 30B, did you get an RTX 4090? I wonder what's taking so long for VRAM to increase? I'd like VRAM to at least be 50GB by 2030.
1
0
2023-05-04T19:15:04
Akimbo333
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null
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jiv9wyy
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/136kbfu/how_do_the_7b_13b_30b_and_65b_parameter_models/jiv9wyy/
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t1_jiv9wi8
Ok, back from linux testing... what a pain in the ass that was :). Getting everything installed and working on a new M2 SSD took all evening. Options were: Triton branch, warmup auto tune, fused mlp, xformers, pin weight, verbose, quant attn. 30b on the 5900x in CPU only mode (oobabooga) gets 1.7 tokens/second. Actua...
3
0
2023-05-04T19:14:59
deepinterstate
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jiv9wi8
false
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t1_jiv9i53
OA? And what do you use it for?
2
0
2023-05-04T19:12:22
Akimbo333
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t1_jiv8y9a
What format are you 200k words in? Are they all short stories? Are they book format? Articles? Forum postings?
1
0
2023-05-04T19:08:48
Nearby_Yam286
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t1_jiv8x7j
How much would it cost to train gpt4? If it’s only like $50k then multiply that by 10 worst case for trial and error, maybe double that amount to get a few talented programmers to do the work for you. $1m and 2 years time could provide an open source alternative to gpt4 that’s every bit as powerful worst case. Best cas...
1
0
2023-05-04T19:08:37
kevofasho
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t1_jiv8one
You are absolutely right. To be honest, IMHO code written for most Machine Learning projects is a total cluster-f**k. - No reproducability - Messy package management - Dependency hell Unfortunately the people who advance the field of ML are either not experienced software engineers following best practices, or they a...
1
0
2023-05-04T19:07:04
_underlines_
false
null
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jiv8one
false
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t1_jiv8ect
Thought the P40 needed a custom cooling solution - they don't have coolers on-board, right? How are you cooling that bad boy :)
1
0
2023-05-04T19:05:13
deepinterstate
false
null
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jiv8ect
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13710u8/anyone_actually_running_30b65b_at_reasonably_high/jiv8ect/
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t1_jiv8bv9
>AMD Epyc This is interesting. I've been considering building a threadripper rig for this purpose, but I hadn't considered an older Epyc rig. What processor are you using?
1
0
2023-05-04T19:04:46
deepinterstate
false
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jiv8bv9
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13710u8/anyone_actually_running_30b65b_at_reasonably_high/jiv8bv9/
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t1_jiv86cr
Works with triton, this: [https://github.com/qwopqwop200/GPTQ-for-LLaMa](https://github.com/qwopqwop200/GPTQ-for-LLaMa) You probably have this instead: [https://github.com/oobabooga/GPTQ-for-LLaMa](https://github.com/oobabooga/GPTQ-for-LLaMa) Both work with oobabooga/text-generation-webui
6
0
2023-05-04T19:03:45
rerri
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t1_jiv834h
I did just upgrade my ddr4 to ddr4-4000, which made a small difference. Wasn't anything too crazy over the ddr4-3600 I had in there previously, but I wanted more ram so it all works out.
1
0
2023-05-04T19:03:09
deepinterstate
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jiv834h
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t1_jiv7xoy
First, thanks for creating and releasing this mixed model. I'm testing it right now, but since I can only run 7B on GPU, let me second the 7B request. Thanks in advance! ;)
1
0
2023-05-04T19:02:08
WolframRavenwolf
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jiv7xoy
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t1_jiv7mif
It's my understanding that AWS is currently working on some LLM services as well.
1
0
2023-05-04T19:00:07
Conditional-Sausage
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t1_jiv7iyi
[Please... I just want the waifus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY)...
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0
2023-05-04T18:59:28
JnewayDitchedHerKids
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t1_jiv77dz
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2023-05-04T18:57:23
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t1_jiv6ur5
Fellow writer here. Not even GPT 4 can write entire long books in a single prompt. What you can do is prompt for each scene and then copy and paste it into your manuscript. This is what I do. It's faster than typing, but not faster than when you are using speech-to-text. Writing dialogues can be tricky this way, too. I...
1
0
2023-05-04T18:55:06
Ok-Debt7712
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t1_jiv65cw
Hell yea thank you bro🙏
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2023-05-04T18:50:30
x86Max
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t1_jiv5ysb
You're probably not using Triton GPTQ. If you're using Ooga that uses Cuda GPTQ. You'll have to wait for a version that's designed for cuda.
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2023-05-04T18:49:21
synn89
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t1_jiv5xa5
Of course, I'll update you once I have results - I'm cloning this one: [https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/stable-vicuna-13B-HF](https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/stable-vicuna-13B-HF)
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2023-05-04T18:49:05
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t1_jiv5r19
Thank you, working on the more robust docs now. Gonna take some time as I re-test everything but it will be worth it!
2
0
2023-05-04T18:47:57
YearZero
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jiv5r19
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t1_jiv5pg4
Make sure it’s the 13b stable release too dude because the stable version is fine tuned very well. Could you let me know how it works? I’m super curious
1
0
2023-05-04T18:47:40
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t1_jiv5oez
Thank you I’ll check those out!
1
0
2023-05-04T18:47:30
YearZero
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t1_jiv5i0q
5_1 (the bloke version)just passed the 'second place in a race' question that chatgpt3.5 apparently failed (lol) > If you were in a race and passed the person in second place, what place would you be in now? If I was in third place when I passed the person in second place, then after passing them I would be in second...
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0
2023-05-04T18:46:20
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t1_jiv5ehb
Thanks friend! Just added them in the TO-DO sheet of the google sheet doc. Working my way through Vicuna free right now. I also added several logic problems I found on brilliant, as I couldn’t find a way to alter the existing riddles as they’re kinda specific to what they are. So I’ll try to add questions as time goes ...
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0
2023-05-04T18:45:41
YearZero
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t1_jiv538v
Yeah, I'm very excited to test it too, thanks for the suggestion - I don't have access to GPT4, so AutoGPT is still only a distant myth to me :D I'm cloning the stable-vicuna as I type this (though I'm also cloning starcoder that was recently release, so might take a while...)
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0
2023-05-04T18:43:40
rustedbits
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t1_jiv4ua8
Yes baby!! 🎉
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0
2023-05-04T18:42:03
Evening_Ad6637
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t1_jiv4thb
Eh, either you're too small to bother with or big enough to not be worth risking litigation backfiring. OpenAI "stole" from Reddit and the rest of the internet. So did Facebook. No reason not to join the party. Move fast, break stuff.
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2023-05-04T18:41:54
Nearby_Yam286
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2023-05-04T22:27:42
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t1_jiv4fhy
The 4_0 from amesianx seems worse than the 5_1 from thebloke but I guess that's to be expected.
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2023-05-04T18:39:25
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2023-05-04T18:43:30
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t1_jiv4eg9
Looks like The Bloke has up to 5bit up. I am seeing an intelligence improvement on the 8bit vs 5bit so I think I will stick to it. The speed difference doesn't matter much to me its still pretty snappy. I tried a variation of the shark in the basement, should I go upstairs test: Stable Vicuna 5bit said stay put get h...
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2023-05-04T18:39:13
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2023-05-04T18:45:13
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t1_jiv3yqt
I've tested it and it feels like even the 7b is better.
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2023-05-04T18:36:23
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t1_jiv3owx
I don't think they will actively pursue people we use them on smaller scale. However, if you want to build a company without the proper license, it could be a deal breaker though.
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2023-05-04T18:34:36
goproai
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jiv3owx
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137syol/google_we_have_no_moat_and_neither_does_openai/jiv3owx/
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t1_jiv3hmt
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2023-05-04T18:33:16
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t1_jiv3h57
Doesn’t work, only spitting out gibberish
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2023-05-04T18:33:10
Necessary_Ad_9800
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137upg4/wizardvicuna13b_hugging_face/jiv3h57/
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t1_jiv32ss
Don't know, but there are some new alternatives coming up, besides LLaMa, which are allowed commercially.
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2023-05-04T18:30:35
mr_house7
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t1_jiv2z2l
GPTQ (triton) 4bit is here: [https://huggingface.co/fbjr/wizard-vicuna-13b-4bit-128g](https://huggingface.co/fbjr/wizard-vicuna-13b-4bit-128g)
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2023-05-04T18:29:55
rerri
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t1_jiv2cme
I didn't agree to any license. Neither likely did you. The question as to whether not not these models can be used commercially is possibly more of a "is it worth it to stop you". Your data has helped to train the models, including Reddit. Who actually owns them is unclear and litigation would be risky. I would think ...
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2023-05-04T18:25:54
Nearby_Yam286
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t1_jiv2cbk
Yea it’s pretty good bro, I run it in textwebui but it’d be nice to see it incorporated into your modded version of auto if it works well, I’d rather not pay $60 a month for openAIs API 😂
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2023-05-04T18:25:51
x86Max
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jiv2cbk
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13638nc/does_this_exist/jiv2cbk/
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t1_jiv25hx
Really, is it that good? :O I haven’t tried it all, I’ll search it
1
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2023-05-04T18:24:38
rustedbits
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jiv25hx
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13638nc/does_this_exist/jiv25hx/
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t1_jiv1zsw
Have you tried with vicuña stable 13B model? People are saying it’s at 90% quality of GPT-4.
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2023-05-04T18:23:38
x86Max
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t1_jiv1e30
What I think they are implying is that it's not worth it because LoRA will be able to achieve similar results with much less compute. I don't exactly know how more parameters translate to better output but if, in theory, the base model already has the necessary weights to be able to produce similar output as a much big...
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2023-05-04T18:19:45
Rogerooo
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t1_jiv1bvi
Exactly this! Whereas if you're running it on a reasonably sized model, you can see the response getting weird, hit the stop button, tweak the prompt, and get an actual good result and not just roll the dice lol
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2023-05-04T18:19:21
clyspe
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t1_jiv1b6p
You might be surprised if you click the link!
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2023-05-04T18:19:13
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t1_jiv19jf
Salut c'est forcément pour windows ?
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2023-05-04T18:18:55
Last_Firefighter242
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jiv19jf
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t1_jiv0uny
I do this too! But sometimes I get nervous I'm going to come back to a hot room when the thing has been on a loop saying the same sentence for the past 4 hours.
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2023-05-04T18:16:14
ThePseudoMcCoy
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t1_jiv0r0t
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2023-05-04T18:15:35
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t1_jiv0qm8
oh, so the article is not valid... It was so funny because the pricing comparison was just insane. So is the OpenAI api + models cheaper and better for embeddings or the self-hosted models are still a viable option?
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2023-05-04T18:15:30
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t1_jiv0fjr
Back in the 1970s, the U.S. government made the critical decision to build the Internet on [Fuzzball routers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzball_router). This would lead to the success of TCP/IP and modern networking. ORNL has decided to help train RedPajama. It's a flashback, and a rare instance where our governm...
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2023-05-04T18:13:31
friedrichvonschiller
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t1_jiv0b5w
Imagine the boom in cheap novels and spin-offs once this is possible. It will be like "choose your favourite ending" with people competing about which is best. It will create a whole new dimension.
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2023-05-04T18:12:43
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t1_jiv06ka
Cool! I wonder if there’s a 4bit coming too
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2023-05-04T18:11:53
Necessary_Ad_9800
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t1_jiuzxsa
No. But take LLaMA 65B, train it on hundreds of fantasy author writing styles to create Fantasy Novel Writer 65B, then kick at it a LoRA of Game of Thrones and it'll probably do a better job than GPT at writing a new season 7 and 8. Heck, you might even be able to get it to finish the book series before George can.
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2023-05-04T18:10:16
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t1_jiuzp9h
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2023-05-04T18:08:42
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t1_jiuzeks
Yes, the speed hit is truly massive for the larger models. I'm getting flashbacks of downloading torrents and setting them up to download, and excitedly coming back ten minutes later to see how far the progress bar has gotten. I get .5 it/s on an i9-13900k and 64 gigs of dual channel ram. It's fun to ask it a question ...
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2023-05-04T18:06:47
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t1_jiuyot5
No!
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2023-05-04T18:02:05
phail216
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t1_jiuymcl
super ça fonctionne merci Maintenant reste plus que a comprendre comment le lancer car il se lance repond a un prompt random et se ferme `bgood@bgood-ryzen ~/llama.cpp (master) [1]> # obtain the original LLaMA model weights and place them in ./models (base)` `ls ./models` `65B 30B 13B 7B tokenizer_checklist.chk tok...
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2023-05-04T18:01:38
Last_Firefighter242
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t1_jiuybx2
u/YearZero Some fun candidates you should consider for your next round of testing! **WizardLM 13b** (this is lora trained, so if I understand right this wont be as good as true wizardlm, should probably have "lora" next to the name in brackets if you do test this one) [https://huggingface.co/execveat/wizardLM-13b-ggm...
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2023-05-04T17:59:44
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t1_jiuy2qe
PCIe 4.0 x16 is actually just 32 GB/s I think. 64 GB/s is PCIe 5.0 x16. So yeah, compared to the memory bandwidth of the GPU it's a lot less, but does running a LLM really use 100% of the available memory bandwidth? I assume it doesn't, since it's limited by compute at some point before.
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2023-05-04T17:58:07
Tystros
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t1_jiuy1r4
If your worry is monetization, you can add an extensions app store alla apple, otherwise making it open source would make a lot of people have more eyes and fixes on the app. Also any chance you'd have it run on something other than the CPU? ​ Cheers, great work
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2023-05-04T17:57:56
ChobPT
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t1_jiuxvxj
Everyone please be careful, when software is released not open source there is always a chance of malware, etc. Only reason I posting this I saw this:[https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetIsBeautiful/comments/1375vh2/run\_opensource\_ai\_llms\_similar\_to\_chatgpt\_on\_your/](https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetIsBeautiful/...
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2023-05-04T17:56:53
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t1_jiuxohi
there's already a post that the same as this 4 hours ago.
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2023-05-04T17:55:34
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t1_jiuxgqq
wow that was fast. I look away for a day and bam, new model EDIT - ah my original point still stands it looks like. thats the ggml of the lora version. I dont think it will be as good as a true version
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2023-05-04T17:54:12
lemon07r
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t1_jiuwzmp
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2023-05-04T17:51:12
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t1_jiuwdxn
PCIe 5.0 is still very new. PCIe 4.0 x16: 64GB/sec. GPU memory bandwidth on an RTX 4070: 504 GB/sec That's an order of magnitude slower for the PCIe bus than for the memory within the RTX card...
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2023-05-04T17:47:21
AlpsAficionado
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jiuwdxn
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t1_jiuvz0s
Because AI never fabricate facts
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2023-05-04T17:44:43
SnooHobbies3931
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12mnuly/ai_showdown_koala_vs_vicuna_gpt4_as_the_judge/jiuvz0s/
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t1_jiuvoe9
You can get the ggml from here: [https://huggingface.co/execveat/wizardLM-13b-ggml-4bit/tree/main](https://huggingface.co/execveat/wizardLM-13b-ggml-4bit/tree/main)
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2023-05-04T17:42:50
darxkies
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t1_jiuvlq8
Do you guys think these “open source” models will adopt a license fee model to allow people to use commercially?
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2023-05-04T17:42:23
goproai
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t1_jiuvi63
Okay, yes, it's true, we're running 30B models on our 3090's which are somewhat capable. Scale it to servers with 20 times as much VRAM and I don't see how we could keep up without spending hundreds of thousands of dollars?
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2023-05-04T17:41:45
2muchnet42day
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t1_jiuva8z
Just the lora sadly. It's not actual wizard 13b. It will theoretically, be not as good as actual 13b
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2023-05-04T17:40:20
lemon07r
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jiuva8z
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t1_jiuv66q
I didn't understand "spreading across CPU and gpu" as actually doing computation on both. That has never been done as far as I know and is not possible in my understanding (at least not in a way that actually speeds up things). If llama.cpp can do it that's new to me. GPTQ is a quantization method. I never talked abou...
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2023-05-04T17:39:39
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t1_jiuv4tx
is it throughput or latency that is the limit? I find it hard to imagine that PCIe 5.0 can ever be fully saturated.
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2023-05-04T17:39:24
Tystros
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jiuv4tx
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t1_jiuv212
Why would they care. Those companies have been data mining us for decades.
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2023-05-04T17:38:54
africanasshat
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t1_jiuu6j0
Please post this in singularity, to bring even more ppl into our little localLLaMa movement. \*I could not share, my account is under a month old.
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2023-05-04T17:33:24
Away-Sleep-2010
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t1_jiuu4cp
A few takeaway quotes: > Things we consider “major open problems” are solved and in people’s hands today. > We can try to hold tightly to our secrets while outside innovation dilutes their value, or we can try to learn from each other. > The more tightly we control our models, the more attractive we make open alt...
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2023-05-04T17:33:01
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t1_jiuu3x6
Thank you! When you say 'very slow', how slow do you mean? Like, if "CPU only" is 0, and "fully GPU accelerated" is 10, around where would this lie? More like a 1, or more like a 5?
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2023-05-04T17:32:57
AlpsAficionado
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jiuu3x6
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t1_jiutpe5
I def would :)
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2023-05-04T17:30:23
ovived
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t1_jiutm8a
Dans cette vidéo tu as un tuto complet pour installer et utiliser Vicuna. Il parle très bien français. [https://youtu.be/cCQdzqAHcFk](https://youtu.be/cCQdzqAHcFk)
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2023-05-04T17:29:49
raysar
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t1_jiutljn
im down to support, donate, i enjoy your work
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2023-05-04T17:29:42
ovived
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1376oho/introducing_wizardvicunalm_combining_wizardlm_and/jiutljn/
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t1_jiut4tn
what open source/ self hosted models take images as input? I know openAI GPT4 doesnt allow that yet, thanks
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2023-05-04T17:26:42
ovived
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jiut4tn
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/133us6p/created_a_discord_bot_that_understand_images/jiut4tn/
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t1_jiut4qj
No, you are wrong. GPTQ is GPU only, the CPU doesn't do ANY compute in this case, it only serves as a glorified memory controller which shuffles a chunk of your model between RAM and VRAM back and forth in the token generation pipeline. The only implementation that utilizes both CPU and GPU computational resources i...
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2023-05-04T17:26:41
_Erilaz
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jiut4qj
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137dpd7/using_system_ram_as_swap_for_gpu/jiut4qj/
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t1_jiusmv2
I have a related question, which I've been curious about for a while. I know there is a current problem with memory and 'teaching the AI' that makes having even sensical chats a challenge. How far are we from feeding an AI a fact sheet about a fictional world, culture, geography, and characters and then have it opera...
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2023-05-04T17:23:35
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t1_jius3en
--prelayer does precisely that But it's very slow because you are severely bottlenecked with your PCIE bus throughput.
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2023-05-04T17:20:11
_Erilaz
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jius3en
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t1_jius0i1
And thank you for sharing, this is very interesting!
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2023-05-04T17:19:39
Away-Sleep-2010
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t1_jiurvza
They don't like it, because they cannot control it. I have only one thing to say about this - stay the hell out of the way, Google and Open AI, and 'friendly government regulators' paid by the two.
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2023-05-04T17:18:51
Away-Sleep-2010
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t1_jiurt9d
You can apparently run multiple GPUs and take advantage of the sum of their VRAM but as you said it's not cheap
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2023-05-04T17:18:21
x54675788
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t1_jiur4kz
RAM speed is the limiting factor here. For instance, if you have DDR4 memory at, say, 3600 MT/s, that means there is 8\*3600 megabytes that can be streamed from RAM to CPU per channel. As you probably have 2 channels, you end up at something like 2\*8\*3600 MB/s or 57.6 GB/s memory speed under ideal streaming condition...
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2023-05-04T17:13:53
audioen
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2023-05-04T17:50:05
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t1_jiuqimk
Amazing work!
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2023-05-04T17:09:56
themostofpost
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t1_jiuoftf
l'erreur est `llama_init_from_gpt_params: error: failed to load model './models/7B/ggml-model-q4_0.bin'` corrige l'option de lancement "-m <path>" pour pointer vers le chemin d'accès correct, là ou est situé ton modèle.
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2023-05-04T16:56:23
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