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Yeah | customer: ... stuff. But then, because I was, my parents were so young when they had me, my mom used to leave me with her parents, which I called Big Nan and Big Pop, and they were the, the complete opposite. You know, my grandfather came f- over from Italy and, you know, had a job working on the railroad and used to s... | 1,313.432 | 1,314.072 | agent | eng | tr | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... he, he used to say that he was the wealthiest man in the world, and he would count all of his grandkids and children as a million bucks. | agent: Hmm.
customer: And was literally serious. Like-
agent: Yeah | 1,314.072 | 1,319.842 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: And was literally serious. Like-
agent: Yeah
customer: ... he, he used to say that he was the wealthiest man in the world, and he would count all of his grandkids and children as a million bucks. | 1,319.842 | 1,319.852 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And he was just, like, the complete opposite and a classic missionary. He was driven by a higher purpose, and I was always drawn to that. But each year... Like, I was only in banking for seven years, you know, before I quit, and something was really missing. Something was wrong. | agent: Yeah
customer: ... he, he used to say that he was the wealthiest man in the world, and he would count all of his grandkids and children as a million bucks.
agent: Yeah. | 1,319.852 | 1,335.892 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: ... he, he used to say that he was the wealthiest man in the world, and he would count all of his grandkids and children as a million bucks.
agent: Yeah.
customer: And he was just, like, the complete opposite and a classic missionary. He was driven by a higher purpose, and I was always drawn to that. But each... | 1,335.892 | 1,336.012 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I didn't feel fulfilled, and it felt like, it seemed like a, you know, road to nowhere. | agent: Yeah.
customer: And he was just, like, the complete opposite and a classic missionary. He was driven by a higher purpose, and I was always drawn to that. But each year... Like, I was only in banking for seven years, you know, before I quit, and something was really missing. Something was wrong.
agent: Yeah. | 1,336.012 | 1,340.592 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So you, you decide to quit, which is a big deal, I mean, you had a big paying job, and to go and start a business with a childhood friend of yours, Vinit Bharara. Is that... Am I pronouncing his name right? | customer: And he was just, like, the complete opposite and a classic missionary. He was driven by a higher purpose, and I was always drawn to that. But each year... Like, I was only in banking for seven years, you know, before I quit, and something was really missing. Something was wrong.
agent: Yeah.
customer: I didn'... | 1,340.592 | 1,354.752 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yep, Vinit. Uh, we call him Vini. | agent: Yeah.
customer: I didn't feel fulfilled, and it felt like, it seemed like a, you know, road to nowhere.
agent: So you, you decide to quit, which is a big deal, I mean, you had a big paying job, and to go and start a business with a childhood friend of yours, Vinit Bharara. Is that... Am I pronouncing his name ri... | 1,354.752 | 1,356.702 | customer | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Vini. | customer: I didn't feel fulfilled, and it felt like, it seemed like a, you know, road to nowhere.
agent: So you, you decide to quit, which is a big deal, I mean, you had a big paying job, and to go and start a business with a childhood friend of yours, Vinit Bharara. Is that... Am I pronouncing his name right?
customer... | 1,356.702 | 1,356.712 | agent | eng | sw | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
But yeah. | agent: So you, you decide to quit, which is a big deal, I mean, you had a big paying job, and to go and start a business with a childhood friend of yours, Vinit Bharara. Is that... Am I pronouncing his name right?
customer: Yep, Vinit. Uh, we call him Vini.
agent: Vini. | 1,356.712 | 1,357.311 | customer | eng | id | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And, um, and were you... Was any part of you nervous about, about doing that? | customer: Yep, Vinit. Uh, we call him Vini.
agent: Vini.
customer: But yeah. | 1,357.312 | 1,362.392 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, also, I had a newborn baby at the time, so yeah, it was, uh... And actually did it with Vini and Lax Chandra. Um, so two, we, all three of us were best friends, and Lax I did the baseball cards with. Both of my- | agent: Vini.
customer: But yeah.
agent: And, um, and were you... Was any part of you nervous about, about doing that? | 1,362.392 | 1,376.252 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Childhood friends | customer: But yeah.
agent: And, um, and were you... Was any part of you nervous about, about doing that?
customer: Yeah, also, I had a newborn baby at the time, so yeah, it was, uh... And actually did it with Vini and Lax Chandra. Um, so two, we, all three of us were best friends, and Lax I did the baseball cards with.... | 1,376.252 | 1,376.992 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... childhood friends since I was 10 years old. | agent: And, um, and were you... Was any part of you nervous about, about doing that?
customer: Yeah, also, I had a newborn baby at the time, so yeah, it was, uh... And actually did it with Vini and Lax Chandra. Um, so two, we, all three of us were best friends, and Lax I did the baseball cards with. Both of my-
agent: ... | 1,376.992 | 1,379.131 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And by, by the way, what was the enterprise that you were gonna do? What was this business idea? | customer: Yeah, also, I had a newborn baby at the time, so yeah, it was, uh... And actually did it with Vini and Lax Chandra. Um, so two, we, all three of us were best friends, and Lax I did the baseball cards with. Both of my-
agent: Childhood friends
customer: ... childhood friends since I was 10 years old. | 1,379.132 | 1,383.592 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
This was, like, basically a sports stock market. We used baseball cards as a proxy for the athlete. | agent: Childhood friends
customer: ... childhood friends since I was 10 years old.
agent: And by, by the way, what was the enterprise that you were gonna do? What was this business idea? | 1,383.592 | 1,389.932 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm. | customer: ... childhood friends since I was 10 years old.
agent: And by, by the way, what was the enterprise that you were gonna do? What was this business idea?
customer: This was, like, basically a sports stock market. We used baseball cards as a proxy for the athlete. | 1,389.932 | 1,390.131 | agent | eng | sv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
But it was much more of a stock market than it is anything to do with baseball cards. People would have accounts. They'd have... build a portfolio. There was a ticker. There was market makers. There was bid-offer spreads. It was meant to be a stock market for sports players. | agent: And by, by the way, what was the enterprise that you were gonna do? What was this business idea?
customer: This was, like, basically a sports stock market. We used baseball cards as a proxy for the athlete.
agent: Hmm. | 1,390.132 | 1,405.392 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So this was gonna be a marketplace for... I still don't fully understand it. I'm... I mean, is it just a marketplace to sell sports collectibles online? Is that a fair- | customer: This was, like, basically a sports stock market. We used baseball cards as a proxy for the athlete.
agent: Hmm.
customer: But it was much more of a stock market than it is anything to do with baseball cards. People would have accounts. They'd have... build a portfolio. There was a ticker. There was market mak... | 1,405.392 | 1,415.012 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
No. | agent: Hmm.
customer: But it was much more of a stock market than it is anything to do with baseball cards. People would have accounts. They'd have... build a portfolio. There was a ticker. There was market makers. There was bid-offer spreads. It was meant to be a stock market for sports players.
agent: So this was gon... | 1,415.012 | 1,415.422 | customer | eng | pt | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
No. | customer: But it was much more of a stock market than it is anything to do with baseball cards. People would have accounts. They'd have... build a portfolio. There was a ticker. There was market makers. There was bid-offer spreads. It was meant to be a stock market for sports players.
agent: So this was gonna be a mark... | 1,415.422 | 1,415.452 | agent | eng | pt | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
No, it was... If you imagine a baseball card that you never take delivery of. | agent: So this was gonna be a marketplace for... I still don't fully understand it. I'm... I mean, is it just a marketplace to sell sports collectibles online? Is that a fair-
customer: No.
agent: No. | 1,415.452 | 1,419.972 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Okay. | customer: No.
agent: No.
customer: No, it was... If you imagine a baseball card that you never take delivery of. | 1,419.972 | 1,420.152 | agent | eng | tl | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So it's just, it sits there as a proxy for the athlete. So you'd buy the cards, they'd go in your account, the price would go up, and then you'd sell them, and the money would go in your account. And you'd buy and sell and trade, and so actually it felt much more like a stock market. Like, we would watch the games, and... | agent: No.
customer: No, it was... If you imagine a baseball card that you never take delivery of.
agent: Okay. | 1,420.152 | 1,444.452 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And you raised some money, right? You, you guys raised, like- | customer: No, it was... If you imagine a baseball card that you never take delivery of.
agent: Okay.
customer: So it's just, it sits there as a proxy for the athlete. So you'd buy the cards, they'd go in your account, the price would go up, and then you'd sell them, and the money would go in your account. And you'd buy... | 1,444.452 | 1,446.832 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
We raised $5 million, all from 60 angel investors. | agent: Okay.
customer: So it's just, it sits there as a proxy for the athlete. So you'd buy the cards, they'd go in your account, the price would go up, and then you'd sell them, and the money would go in your account. And you'd buy and sell and trade, and so actually it felt much more like a stock market. Like, we wou... | 1,446.832 | 1,451.292 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | all from 60 angel investors | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
Who really believed in this ide- 'cause I'm just thinking today if you pitched me that idea, I would be very skeptical. | customer: So it's just, it sits there as a proxy for the athlete. So you'd buy the cards, they'd go in your account, the price would go up, and then you'd sell them, and the money would go in your account. And you'd buy and sell and trade, and so actually it felt much more like a stock market. Like, we would watch the ... | 1,451.292 | 1,457.552 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Well, here's the [laughs]... This is gonna... This sounds like I'm absolutely crazy when I tell you this, but I invested 390,000 of my own money into the company. | agent: And you raised some money, right? You, you guys raised, like-
customer: We raised $5 million, all from 60 angel investors.
agent: Who really believed in this ide- 'cause I'm just thinking today if you pitched me that idea, I would be very skeptical. | 1,457.552 | 1,466.948 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm. | customer: We raised $5 million, all from 60 angel investors.
agent: Who really believed in this ide- 'cause I'm just thinking today if you pitched me that idea, I would be very skeptical.
customer: Well, here's the [laughs]... This is gonna... This sounds like I'm absolutely crazy when I tell you this, but I invested 3... | 1,466.948 | 1,467.948 | agent | eng | sv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And, you know, the investors, the angel investors said, "We're not sure about this idea, but wait, I see here, Marc, you invested 390 grand. That's a lot of money. You know, you're not that old. Um, why 390? Why not 400?" [laughs] And my answer was, "Because that's all I had." | agent: Who really believed in this ide- 'cause I'm just thinking today if you pitched me that idea, I would be very skeptical.
customer: Well, here's the [laughs]... This is gonna... This sounds like I'm absolutely crazy when I tell you this, but I invested 390,000 of my own money into the company.
agent: Hmm. | 1,467.948 | 1,483.448 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | I invested 390,000 of my own money into the company | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
Wow. | customer: Well, here's the [laughs]... This is gonna... This sounds like I'm absolutely crazy when I tell you this, but I invested 390,000 of my own money into the company.
agent: Hmm.
customer: And, you know, the investors, the angel investors said, "We're not sure about this idea, but wait, I see here, Marc, you inve... | 1,483.448 | 1,483.748 | agent | eng | pl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So I literally had 390,000 in the bank, and I think the investors saw that and they said, "Wow, this guy's got a lot to lose." | agent: Hmm.
customer: And, you know, the investors, the angel investors said, "We're not sure about this idea, but wait, I see here, Marc, you invested 390 grand. That's a lot of money. You know, you're not that old. Um, why 390? Why not 400?" [laughs] And my answer was, "Because that's all I had."
agent: Wow. | 1,485.048 | 1,492.288 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | the investors saw that and they said, "Wow, this guy's got a lot to lose." | medium | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
Yeah. | customer: And, you know, the investors, the angel investors said, "We're not sure about this idea, but wait, I see here, Marc, you invested 390 grand. That's a lot of money. You know, you're not that old. Um, why 390? Why not 400?" [laughs] And my answer was, "Because that's all I had."
agent: Wow.
customer: So I liter... | 1,492.288 | 1,492.348 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So now would I recommend this? No, I wouldn't recommend you take every dollar that you have. But I'll tell you what, if I didn't do that, wouldn't have got the investment dollars. | agent: Wow.
customer: So I literally had 390,000 in the bank, and I think the investors saw that and they said, "Wow, this guy's got a lot to lose."
agent: Yeah. | 1,492.348 | 1,502.008 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | if I didn't do that, wouldn't have got the investment dollars | medium | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
No. | customer: So I literally had 390,000 in the bank, and I think the investors saw that and they said, "Wow, this guy's got a lot to lose."
agent: Yeah.
customer: So now would I recommend this? No, I wouldn't recommend you take every dollar that you have. But I'll tell you what, if I didn't do that, wouldn't have got the ... | 1,502.008 | 1,502.248 | agent | eng | pt | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And we wouldn't have worked either, because it really felt like my life was on the line. | agent: Yeah.
customer: So now would I recommend this? No, I wouldn't recommend you take every dollar that you have. But I'll tell you what, if I didn't do that, wouldn't have got the investment dollars.
agent: No. | 1,502.248 | 1,507.968 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
All right. So you... And by the way, this is called The Pit, right? This was- | customer: So now would I recommend this? No, I wouldn't recommend you take every dollar that you have. But I'll tell you what, if I didn't do that, wouldn't have got the investment dollars.
agent: No.
customer: And we wouldn't have worked either, because it really felt like my life was on the line. | 1,507.968 | 1,511.188 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah | agent: No.
customer: And we wouldn't have worked either, because it really felt like my life was on the line.
agent: All right. So you... And by the way, this is called The Pit, right? This was- | 1,511.188 | 1,511.677 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... so you get the money, and you launch this in 2001, and, and it's a website. | customer: And we wouldn't have worked either, because it really felt like my life was on the line.
agent: All right. So you... And by the way, this is called The Pit, right? This was-
customer: Yeah | 1,511.677 | 1,516.408 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
2000. | agent: All right. So you... And by the way, this is called The Pit, right? This was-
customer: Yeah
agent: ... so you get the money, and you launch this in 2001, and, and it's a website. | 1,516.408 | 1,516.828 | customer | eng | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||||
2000. | customer: Yeah
agent: ... so you get the money, and you launch this in 2001, and, and it's a website.
customer: 2000. | 1,516.828 | 1,517.638 | agent | eng | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||||
2000. | agent: ... so you get the money, and you launch this in 2001, and, and it's a website.
customer: 2000.
agent: 2000. | 1,517.638 | 1,517.638 | customer | eng | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||||
2000. | customer: 2000.
agent: 2000.
customer: 2000. | 1,517.638 | 1,517.638 | agent | eng | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||||
My mistake. | agent: 2000.
customer: 2000.
agent: 2000. | 1,517.638 | 1,517.648 | customer | eng | et | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And it's a website. It looks like a, a marketplace with a ticker going across the screen and, and stuff like that? | customer: 2000.
agent: 2000.
customer: My mistake. | 1,517.648 | 1,522.888 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yep. Yeah, it's just looked... Yeah, exactly. | agent: 2000.
customer: My mistake.
agent: And it's a website. It looks like a, a marketplace with a ticker going across the screen and, and stuff like that? | 1,522.888 | 1,525.118 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And, and did you get, like, some media attention for this and, and- | customer: My mistake.
agent: And it's a website. It looks like a, a marketplace with a ticker going across the screen and, and stuff like that?
customer: Yep. Yeah, it's just looked... Yeah, exactly. | 1,525.118 | 1,528.388 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
We did. | agent: And it's a website. It looks like a, a marketplace with a ticker going across the screen and, and stuff like that?
customer: Yep. Yeah, it's just looked... Yeah, exactly.
agent: And, and did you get, like, some media attention for this and, and- | 1,528.388 | 1,528.728 | customer | eng | af | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: Yep. Yeah, it's just looked... Yeah, exactly.
agent: And, and did you get, like, some media attention for this and, and-
customer: We did. | 1,528.728 | 1,529.527 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And we got a lot of customers. | agent: And, and did you get, like, some media attention for this and, and-
customer: We did.
agent: Yeah. | 1,529.528 | 1,530.788 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
You got a lot of customers? | customer: We did.
agent: Yeah.
customer: And we got a lot of customers. | 1,530.788 | 1,532.448 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, we got a, a lot of people came on there who were trading. They would send checks for 10, $50,000 and start trading. | agent: Yeah.
customer: And we got a lot of customers.
agent: You got a lot of customers? | 1,532.448 | 1,539.128 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And how would you guys make money? What was the revenue model? | customer: And we got a lot of customers.
agent: You got a lot of customers?
customer: Yeah, we got a, a lot of people came on there who were trading. They would send checks for 10, $50,000 and start trading. | 1,539.128 | 1,542.088 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
We made money on the bid-offer spread and commission. | agent: You got a lot of customers?
customer: Yeah, we got a, a lot of people came on there who were trading. They would send checks for 10, $50,000 and start trading.
agent: And how would you guys make money? What was the revenue model? | 1,542.088 | 1,545.608 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So you launched this thing. You're getting some traction. Was it... Did it show promise? Did it look like it was gonna- | customer: Yeah, we got a, a lot of people came on there who were trading. They would send checks for 10, $50,000 and start trading.
agent: And how would you guys make money? What was the revenue model?
customer: We made money on the bid-offer spread and commission. | 1,545.608 | 1,550.788 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
It was... Yeah, it was really working. The first 10 months we were doing about 10 million in transaction revenue. | agent: And how would you guys make money? What was the revenue model?
customer: We made money on the bid-offer spread and commission.
agent: So you launched this thing. You're getting some traction. Was it... Did it show promise? Did it look like it was gonna- | 1,550.788 | 1,557.208 | customer | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Wow. | customer: We made money on the bid-offer spread and commission.
agent: So you launched this thing. You're getting some traction. Was it... Did it show promise? Did it look like it was gonna-
customer: It was... Yeah, it was really working. The first 10 months we were doing about 10 million in transaction revenue. | 1,557.208 | 1,557.988 | agent | eng | pl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
It was, it was going really good, but then about 10 months in, the NASDAQ crashed. This is when the monster, monster crash. | agent: So you launched this thing. You're getting some traction. Was it... Did it show promise? Did it look like it was gonna-
customer: It was... Yeah, it was really working. The first 10 months we were doing about 10 million in transaction revenue.
agent: Wow. | 1,557.988 | 1,565.888 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, that was the beginning of the bubble bursting. | customer: It was... Yeah, it was really working. The first 10 months we were doing about 10 million in transaction revenue.
agent: Wow.
customer: It was, it was going really good, but then about 10 months in, the NASDAQ crashed. This is when the monster, monster crash. | 1,565.888 | 1,568.068 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: Wow.
customer: It was, it was going really good, but then about 10 months in, the NASDAQ crashed. This is when the monster, monster crash.
agent: Yeah, that was the beginning of the bubble bursting. | 1,568.068 | 1,568.548 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And you immediately felt the results of that. | customer: It was, it was going really good, but then about 10 months in, the NASDAQ crashed. This is when the monster, monster crash.
agent: Yeah, that was the beginning of the bubble bursting.
customer: Yeah. | 1,568.548 | 1,570.848 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
We c- yeah, 'cause we needed to start raising money, and it was just ghost town. | agent: Yeah, that was the beginning of the bubble bursting.
customer: Yeah.
agent: And you immediately felt the results of that. | 1,570.848 | 1,574.448 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
There was no money. | customer: Yeah.
agent: And you immediately felt the results of that.
customer: We c- yeah, 'cause we needed to start raising money, and it was just ghost town. | 1,574.448 | 1,575.488 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Zero. | agent: And you immediately felt the results of that.
customer: We c- yeah, 'cause we needed to start raising money, and it was just ghost town.
agent: There was no money. | 1,575.488 | 1,576.368 | customer | eng | cs | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And so I guess you... Because I'm wondering why this happened, but basically, 10 months in, you sell the business to Topps, the baseball card company- | customer: We c- yeah, 'cause we needed to start raising money, and it was just ghost town.
agent: There was no money.
customer: Zero. | 1,576.368 | 1,583.968 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah | agent: There was no money.
customer: Zero.
agent: And so I guess you... Because I'm wondering why this happened, but basically, 10 months in, you sell the business to Topps, the baseball card company- | 1,583.968 | 1,584.568 | customer | eng | tr | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... for 5.7 million, which is not that much- | customer: Zero.
agent: And so I guess you... Because I'm wondering why this happened, but basically, 10 months in, you sell the business to Topps, the baseball card company-
customer: Yeah | 1,584.568 | 1,587.028 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
[laughs] | agent: And so I guess you... Because I'm wondering why this happened, but basically, 10 months in, you sell the business to Topps, the baseball card company-
customer: Yeah
agent: ... for 5.7 million, which is not that much- | 1,587.028 | 1,587.038 | customer | eng | lv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... more than what you raised. | customer: Yeah
agent: ... for 5.7 million, which is not that much-
customer: [laughs] | 1,587.038 | 1,588.208 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
That's right, and believe it or not, everyone got their money back and a little bit more, and they said it w- you know, it's the best performing- | agent: ... for 5.7 million, which is not that much-
customer: [laughs]
agent: ... more than what you raised. | 1,588.208 | 1,595.688 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
[laughs] | customer: [laughs]
agent: ... more than what you raised.
customer: That's right, and believe it or not, everyone got their money back and a little bit more, and they said it w- you know, it's the best performing- | 1,595.688 | 1,595.698 | agent | eng | lv | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... investment in their portfolio. [laughs] | agent: ... more than what you raised.
customer: That's right, and believe it or not, everyone got their money back and a little bit more, and they said it w- you know, it's the best performing-
agent: [laughs] | 1,595.698 | 1,596.908 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
That year. | customer: That's right, and believe it or not, everyone got their money back and a little bit more, and they said it w- you know, it's the best performing-
agent: [laughs]
customer: ... investment in their portfolio. [laughs] | 1,596.908 | 1,597.388 | agent | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So it was- | agent: [laughs]
customer: ... investment in their portfolio. [laughs]
agent: That year. | 1,597.388 | 1,597.908 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah | customer: ... investment in their portfolio. [laughs]
agent: That year.
customer: So it was- | 1,597.908 | 1,598.928 | agent | eng | tr | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... it was like- | agent: That year.
customer: So it was-
agent: Yeah | 1,598.928 | 1,599.008 | customer | eng | af | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So everybody got their money back and a little bit of change on top, and Topps now, the biggest, one of the biggest, maybe the biggest baseball card company in, in the US owns you. And you go, you and, and Vinnie become Topps employees, right? | customer: So it was-
agent: Yeah
customer: ... it was like- | 1,599.008 | 1,611.988 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yep, and Lax. | agent: Yeah
customer: ... it was like-
agent: So everybody got their money back and a little bit of change on top, and Topps now, the biggest, one of the biggest, maybe the biggest baseball card company in, in the US owns you. And you go, you and, and Vinnie become Topps employees, right? | 1,611.988 | 1,612.708 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And Lax. | customer: ... it was like-
agent: So everybody got their money back and a little bit of change on top, and Topps now, the biggest, one of the biggest, maybe the biggest baseball card company in, in the US owns you. And you go, you and, and Vinnie become Topps employees, right?
customer: Yep, and Lax. | 1,612.708 | 1,612.718 | agent | eng | de | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, all three of us. And then Vinnie went on to become the general counsel of Topps Inc. Uh, Lax ran The Pit, and I went out to Seattle to run a game company called WizKids, which was acquired by Topps as well. | agent: So everybody got their money back and a little bit of change on top, and Topps now, the biggest, one of the biggest, maybe the biggest baseball card company in, in the US owns you. And you go, you and, and Vinnie become Topps employees, right?
customer: Yep, and Lax.
agent: And Lax. | 1,612.718 | 1,627.488 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And just to be clear, they didn't make computer games, right? WizKids made, like, physical games that you play- | customer: Yep, and Lax.
agent: And Lax.
customer: Yeah, all three of us. And then Vinnie went on to become the general counsel of Topps Inc. Uh, Lax ran The Pit, and I went out to Seattle to run a game company called WizKids, which was acquired by Topps as well. | 1,627.488 | 1,632.428 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Physical games. Think about, like, little miniature figurines that have stats and things. It's almost like Dungeons & Dragons, but, like, with miniature figurines, and you would collect the figurines. The figurines were collectible. | agent: And Lax.
customer: Yeah, all three of us. And then Vinnie went on to become the general counsel of Topps Inc. Uh, Lax ran The Pit, and I went out to Seattle to run a game company called WizKids, which was acquired by Topps as well.
agent: And just to be clear, they didn't make computer games, right? WizKids made... | 1,632.428 | 1,645.008 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
All right, so you end up working under Topps for two years and, um, you decide that you want to start something new. Is that, is that what happened? | customer: Yeah, all three of us. And then Vinnie went on to become the general counsel of Topps Inc. Uh, Lax ran The Pit, and I went out to Seattle to run a game company called WizKids, which was acquired by Topps as well.
agent: And just to be clear, they didn't make computer games, right? WizKids made, like, physical... | 1,645.008 | 1,654.948 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, I f- I was a little bit... It was tough. Like, I was probably the... After I was there for two years, I'm now 10 years out of school. I'm, like, 32- | agent: And just to be clear, they didn't make computer games, right? WizKids made, like, physical games that you play-
customer: Physical games. Think about, like, little miniature figurines that have stats and things. It's almost like Dungeons & Dragons, but, like, with miniature figurines, and you would collect the f... | 1,654.948 | 1,664.588 | customer | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yep | customer: Physical games. Think about, like, little miniature figurines that have stats and things. It's almost like Dungeons & Dragons, but, like, with miniature figurines, and you would collect the figurines. The figurines were collectible.
agent: All right, so you end up working under Topps for two years and, um, yo... | 1,664.588 | 1,664.598 | agent | eng | tr | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... 33-ish. I had ambitious goals and dreams for my career and things, and I'm basically, one day, I remember it was, like, after hours, I'm sitting, started getting into this Dungeons & Dragons and sitting around with a bunch of gamers at night, and I'm, I have this 20-sided die in my hand and I'm rolling it [laughs] ... | agent: All right, so you end up working under Topps for two years and, um, you decide that you want to start something new. Is that, is that what happened?
customer: Yeah, I f- I was a little bit... It was tough. Like, I was probably the... After I was there for two years, I'm now 10 years out of school. I'm, like, 32-... | 1,664.598 | 1,707.468 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And you weren't gonna go back into finance. That was out of the question. | customer: Yeah, I f- I was a little bit... It was tough. Like, I was probably the... After I was there for two years, I'm now 10 years out of school. I'm, like, 32-
agent: Yep
customer: ... 33-ish. I had ambitious goals and dreams for my career and things, and I'm basically, one day, I remember it was, like, after hour... | 1,707.468 | 1,709.988 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Definitely not going back into finance, no. | agent: Yep
customer: ... 33-ish. I had ambitious goals and dreams for my career and things, and I'm basically, one day, I remember it was, like, after hours, I'm sitting, started getting into this Dungeons & Dragons and sitting around with a bunch of gamers at night, and I'm, I have this 20-sided die in my hand and I'm... | 1,709.988 | 1,712.728 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So I, I guess around this time, uh, you and Vinnie start talking about doing something new, uh, a new business, and we now know that this would lead to, to Diapers.com. | customer: ... 33-ish. I had ambitious goals and dreams for my career and things, and I'm basically, one day, I remember it was, like, after hours, I'm sitting, started getting into this Dungeons & Dragons and sitting around with a bunch of gamers at night, and I'm, I have this 20-sided die in my hand and I'm rolling it... | 1,712.728 | 1,722.817 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm. | agent: And you weren't gonna go back into finance. That was out of the question.
customer: Definitely not going back into finance, no.
agent: So I, I guess around this time, uh, you and Vinnie start talking about doing something new, uh, a new business, and we now know that this would lead to, to Diapers.com. | 1,722.817 | 1,722.838 | customer | eng | vi | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
But I wanna understand w- w- what was going on. Did you guys start to have conversations like, "You know, what could we do and what opportunities are out in the world?" Like, how did you even start? What was the conversation? | customer: Definitely not going back into finance, no.
agent: So I, I guess around this time, uh, you and Vinnie start talking about doing something new, uh, a new business, and we now know that this would lead to, to Diapers.com.
customer: Mm-hmm. | 1,722.838 | 1,734.808 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. I'll tell you exactly how it started. This is even before talking to Vinnie, but I, I would just go on Google and search for random words and see how many times they were searched in the search engine, and I remember searching the word diapers. | agent: So I, I guess around this time, uh, you and Vinnie start talking about doing something new, uh, a new business, and we now know that this would lead to, to Diapers.com.
customer: Mm-hmm.
agent: But I wanna understand w- w- what was going on. Did you guys start to have conversations like, "You know, what could we... | 1,734.808 | 1,749.627 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Why? | customer: Mm-hmm.
agent: But I wanna understand w- w- what was going on. Did you guys start to have conversations like, "You know, what could we do and what opportunities are out in the world?" Like, how did you even start? What was the conversation?
customer: Yeah. I'll tell you exactly how it started. This is even be... | 1,749.628 | 1,750.328 | agent | eng | cy | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Well, I, I was doing a lot of diapers- | agent: But I wanna understand w- w- what was going on. Did you guys start to have conversations like, "You know, what could we do and what opportunities are out in the world?" Like, how did you even start? What was the conversation?
customer: Yeah. I'll tell you exactly how it started. This is even before talking to Vi... | 1,750.328 | 1,752.088 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
[laughs] | customer: Yeah. I'll tell you exactly how it started. This is even before talking to Vinnie, but I, I would just go on Google and search for random words and see how many times they were searched in the search engine, and I remember searching the word diapers.
agent: Why?
customer: Well, I, I was doing a lot of diapers... | 1,752.088 | 1,752.348 | agent | eng | lv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... at the time. [laughs] | agent: Why?
customer: Well, I, I was doing a lot of diapers-
agent: [laughs] | 1,752.348 | 1,753.268 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
You were changing a lot of diapers yourself. | customer: Well, I, I was doing a lot of diapers-
agent: [laughs]
customer: ... at the time. [laughs] | 1,753.268 | 1,754.628 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. Yeah. | agent: [laughs]
customer: ... at the time. [laughs]
agent: You were changing a lot of diapers yourself. | 1,754.628 | 1,755.408 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I got you. | customer: ... at the time. [laughs]
agent: You were changing a lot of diapers yourself.
customer: Yeah. Yeah. | 1,755.408 | 1,755.728 | agent | eng | cy | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Buying them and changing them and- | agent: You were changing a lot of diapers yourself.
customer: Yeah. Yeah.
agent: I got you. | 1,755.728 | 1,757.068 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct |
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