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And it was the perfect fit for this particular pizza that we had developed. So it was these kinda things. You know, I... In the pizza business, I was basically at war with some of the largest companies, the Domino's, the Papa Johns. We didn't have the funding to do that. | agent: Got it
customer: ... with you.
agent: Yeah. | 4,618.786 | 4,634.586 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | We didn't have the funding to do that | medium | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
Mm-hmm. | customer: ... with you.
agent: Yeah.
customer: And it was the perfect fit for this particular pizza that we had developed. So it was these kinda things. You know, I... In the pizza business, I was basically at war with some of the largest companies, the Domino's, the Papa Johns. We didn't have the funding to do that. | 4,634.586 | 4,634.616 | agent | eng | vi | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
We had to be inventive. We had to come up with things that didn't cost a lot of money, but got m- thousands and millions of brand impressions, and we were successful with that, and I attribute it all to the team that I had working with me. | agent: Yeah.
customer: And it was the perfect fit for this particular pizza that we had developed. So it was these kinda things. You know, I... In the pizza business, I was basically at war with some of the largest companies, the Domino's, the Papa Johns. We didn't have the funding to do that.
agent: Mm-hmm. | 4,634.616 | 4,648.946 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Okay. So you are expanding Pizza Patron, and you have the finances to do it because you've got the, you know, y- you've got the capital. | customer: And it was the perfect fit for this particular pizza that we had developed. So it was these kinda things. You know, I... In the pizza business, I was basically at war with some of the largest companies, the Domino's, the Papa Johns. We didn't have the funding to do that.
agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: We had to be ... | 4,648.946 | 4,658.226 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm. | agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: We had to be inventive. We had to come up with things that didn't cost a lot of money, but got m- thousands and millions of brand impressions, and we were successful with that, and I attribute it all to the team that I had working with me.
agent: Okay. So you are expanding Pizza Patron, and you... | 4,658.226 | 4,658.826 | customer | eng | vi | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And it's growing mainly, I think, in Texas and, and a couple of other states. | customer: We had to be inventive. We had to come up with things that didn't cost a lot of money, but got m- thousands and millions of brand impressions, and we were successful with that, and I attribute it all to the team that I had working with me.
agent: Okay. So you are expanding Pizza Patron, and you have the finan... | 4,658.826 | 4,663.586 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm. | agent: Okay. So you are expanding Pizza Patron, and you have the finances to do it because you've got the, you know, y- you've got the capital.
customer: Mm-hmm.
agent: And it's growing mainly, I think, in Texas and, and a couple of other states. | 4,663.586 | 4,664.566 | customer | eng | vi | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Um, and you get... And, and again, like, you get it to a point, I think, what, by 2015, how many... Do you know how many restaurants you had? Like, m- more than 20? | customer: Mm-hmm.
agent: And it's growing mainly, I think, in Texas and, and a couple of other states.
customer: Mm-hmm. | 4,664.566 | 4,674.936 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Oh, yeah. 2015? Yeah. | agent: And it's growing mainly, I think, in Texas and, and a couple of other states.
customer: Mm-hmm.
agent: Um, and you get... And, and again, like, you get it to a point, I think, what, by 2015, how many... Do you know how many restaurants you had? Like, m- more than 20? | 4,676.226 | 4,678.336 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: Mm-hmm.
agent: Um, and you get... And, and again, like, you get it to a point, I think, what, by 2015, how many... Do you know how many restaurants you had? Like, m- more than 20?
customer: Oh, yeah. 2015? Yeah. | 4,678.336 | 4,678.386 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I think, I think so. Yeah. I, when we s- when I sold the company, it was at, right at 100, 100 units. | agent: Um, and you get... And, and again, like, you get it to a point, I think, what, by 2015, how many... Do you know how many restaurants you had? Like, m- more than 20?
customer: Oh, yeah. 2015? Yeah.
agent: Yeah. | 4,678.386 | 4,685.016 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
100 restaurants. | customer: Oh, yeah. 2015? Yeah.
agent: Yeah.
customer: I think, I think so. Yeah. I, when we s- when I sold the company, it was at, right at 100, 100 units. | 4,685.016 | 4,685.646 | agent | eng | ca | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: Yeah.
customer: I think, I think so. Yeah. I, when we s- when I sold the company, it was at, right at 100, 100 units.
agent: 100 restaurants. | 4,685.646 | 4,686.026 | customer | eng | id | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. So, so let's get to this, 'cause you, you grow it again, and 2016, you sell it, um, uh, presumably again because it was a, it, it was int- an interesting offer or you were just tired. You wanted to just, like, move on. You were done? | customer: I think, I think so. Yeah. I, when we s- when I sold the company, it was at, right at 100, 100 units.
agent: 100 restaurants.
customer: Yeah. | 4,686.026 | 4,700.926 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Well, let me point out a... One difference is with Wingstop, I, the lo... I had two company-owned stores, one of each model. | agent: 100 restaurants.
customer: Yeah.
agent: Yeah. So, so let's get to this, 'cause you, you grow it again, and 2016, you sell it, um, uh, presumably again because it was a, it, it was int- an interesting offer or you were just tired. You wanted to just, like, move on. You were done? | 4,700.926 | 4,708.276 | customer | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: Yeah.
agent: Yeah. So, so let's get to this, 'cause you, you grow it again, and 2016, you sell it, um, uh, presumably again because it was a, it, it was int- an interesting offer or you were just tired. You wanted to just, like, move on. You were done?
customer: Well, let me point out a... One difference is w... | 4,708.276 | 4,708.306 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
The dine-in model and the... With the pizza business, I continued to open up my own stores. And at the time, I personally owned 11 stores. | agent: Yeah. So, so let's get to this, 'cause you, you grow it again, and 2016, you sell it, um, uh, presumably again because it was a, it, it was int- an interesting offer or you were just tired. You wanted to just, like, move on. You were done?
customer: Well, let me point out a... One difference is with Wingstop, I,... | 4,708.306 | 4,717.306 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm. | customer: Well, let me point out a... One difference is with Wingstop, I, the lo... I had two company-owned stores, one of each model.
agent: Yeah.
customer: The dine-in model and the... With the pizza business, I continued to open up my own stores. And at the time, I personally owned 11 stores. | 4,717.306 | 4,717.536 | agent | eng | sv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And I had another franchisee in the system that also owned 11 stores. | agent: Yeah.
customer: The dine-in model and the... With the pizza business, I continued to open up my own stores. And at the time, I personally owned 11 stores.
agent: Hmm. | 4,717.536 | 4,722.146 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm. | customer: The dine-in model and the... With the pizza business, I continued to open up my own stores. And at the time, I personally owned 11 stores.
agent: Hmm.
customer: And I had another franchisee in the system that also owned 11 stores. | 4,722.146 | 4,722.156 | agent | eng | vi | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
He owned the stores in Phoenix. He owned the stores in San Antonio. So he came to me and said, "Listen, um"- | agent: Hmm.
customer: And I had another franchisee in the system that also owned 11 stores.
agent: Mm-hmm. | 4,722.156 | 4,729.046 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
This is Charles Laughlin? | customer: And I had another franchisee in the system that also owned 11 stores.
agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: He owned the stores in Phoenix. He owned the stores in San Antonio. So he came to me and said, "Listen, um"- | 4,729.046 | 4,730.226 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Charles, yeah. | agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: He owned the stores in Phoenix. He owned the stores in San Antonio. So he came to me and said, "Listen, um"-
agent: This is Charles Laughlin? | 4,730.226 | 4,730.986 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm. | customer: He owned the stores in Phoenix. He owned the stores in San Antonio. So he came to me and said, "Listen, um"-
agent: This is Charles Laughlin?
customer: Charles, yeah. | 4,730.986 | 4,731.136 | agent | eng | vi | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And, uh, I thought that, again, I, I'd been in the pizza business for 32 years. M- this goes... The pizza business, I was always in the pizza business. | agent: This is Charles Laughlin?
customer: Charles, yeah.
agent: Mm-hmm. | 4,731.136 | 4,740.326 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Right, back to 1986. | customer: Charles, yeah.
agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: And, uh, I thought that, again, I, I'd been in the pizza business for 32 years. M- this goes... The pizza business, I was always in the pizza business. | 4,740.326 | 4,741.746 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yes, yes. And at some point in your life, you get to the point and say, "Man, I love the pizza business, but man, 32 years is long enough." And I thought Charles would, Charles would be a great fit. And, uh, w- we came up with a number. Uh, he immediately t- had 22 company-owned stores, my 11 and his 11, and became the... | agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: And, uh, I thought that, again, I, I'd been in the pizza business for 32 years. M- this goes... The pizza business, I was always in the pizza business.
agent: Right, back to 1986. | 4,741.746 | 4,770.866 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And you sold your 11 stores as well as part of the deal? | customer: And, uh, I thought that, again, I, I'd been in the pizza business for 32 years. M- this goes... The pizza business, I was always in the pizza business.
agent: Right, back to 1986.
customer: Yes, yes. And at some point in your life, you get to the point and say, "Man, I love the pizza business, but man, 32 yea... | 4,770.866 | 4,773.856 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Packaged it... Yeah, packaged it up with the licensing company. | agent: Right, back to 1986.
customer: Yes, yes. And at some point in your life, you get to the point and say, "Man, I love the pizza business, but man, 32 years is long enough." And I thought Charles would, Charles would be a great fit. And, uh, w- we came up with a number. Uh, he immediately t- had 22 company-owned st... | 4,773.856 | 4,776.866 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Got it. So, and, and did you... I mean, it's undisclosed. The, the d- the f- the deal is undisclosed, but, but it was... I have to assume it worked out well for you. | customer: Yes, yes. And at some point in your life, you get to the point and say, "Man, I love the pizza business, but man, 32 years is long enough." And I thought Charles would, Charles would be a great fit. And, uh, w- we came up with a number. Uh, he immediately t- had 22 company-owned stores, my 11 and his 11, and ... | 4,776.866 | 4,787.206 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Worked out great. And, and ch- and Charles, unlike the first group, Charles was honorable and he paid me every penny. | agent: And you sold your 11 stores as well as part of the deal?
customer: Packaged it... Yeah, packaged it up with the licensing company.
agent: Got it. So, and, and did you... I mean, it's undisclosed. The, the d- the f- the deal is undisclosed, but, but it was... I have to assume it worked out well for you. | 4,788.406 | 4,797.186 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm. | customer: Packaged it... Yeah, packaged it up with the licensing company.
agent: Got it. So, and, and did you... I mean, it's undisclosed. The, the d- the f- the deal is undisclosed, but, but it was... I have to assume it worked out well for you.
customer: Worked out great. And, and ch- and Charles, unlike the first gr... | 4,797.186 | 4,797.746 | agent | eng | vi | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Every penny. | agent: Got it. So, and, and did you... I mean, it's undisclosed. The, the d- the f- the deal is undisclosed, but, but it was... I have to assume it worked out well for you.
customer: Worked out great. And, and ch- and Charles, unlike the first group, Charles was honorable and he paid me every penny.
agent: Mm-hmm. | 4,797.746 | 4,799.366 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
All right. So you are... Here you are, right? Um, almost 70. Uh, and, uh, I mean, amazing, right? You have built two... You built two ... franchises that, uh, both went in slightly different directions. B- before I ask you about that, how do you feel about Pizza Patron today? 'Cause I don't think it's got as many store... | customer: Worked out great. And, and ch- and Charles, unlike the first group, Charles was honorable and he paid me every penny.
agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: Every penny. | 4,799.606 | 4,821.374 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
It doesn't. And, and this is, uh, it really comes down to franchising. You know, franchising isn't just about the food or the product in as much as it's about relationship management. You're managing the relationship with the franchisee and the franchisor, and the franchisee believes that they've invested all this mone... | agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: Every penny.
agent: All right. So you are... Here you are, right? Um, almost 70. Uh, and, uh, I mean, amazing, right? You have built two... You built two ... franchises that, uh, both went in slightly different directions. B- before I ask you about that, how do you feel about Pizza Patron today... | 4,821.374 | 4,872.014 | customer | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm. | customer: Every penny.
agent: All right. So you are... Here you are, right? Um, almost 70. Uh, and, uh, I mean, amazing, right? You have built two... You built two ... franchises that, uh, both went in slightly different directions. B- before I ask you about that, how do you feel about Pizza Patron today? 'Cause I don'... | 4,872.014 | 4,872.034 | agent | eng | vi | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I think he's more suited to own company-owned stores. But you have to want to f- develop these relationships with people you haven't met before. You have to believe that you can trust them with your baby, which is your brand, and it's a, and, and it's not for everybody, quite honestly. | agent: All right. So you are... Here you are, right? Um, almost 70. Uh, and, uh, I mean, amazing, right? You have built two... You built two ... franchises that, uh, both went in slightly different directions. B- before I ask you about that, how do you feel about Pizza Patron today? 'Cause I don't think it's got as man... | 4,872.034 | 4,891.834 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. And, and Pizza Patron has a, a pretty small footprint today. I think about, like, 70 or 80 stores, mostly in Texas and, and Arizona. | customer: It doesn't. And, and this is, uh, it really comes down to franchising. You know, franchising isn't just about the food or the product in as much as it's about relationship management. You're managing the relationship with the franchisee and the franchisor, and the franchisee believes that they've invested all... | 4,891.834 | 4,900.614 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm-hmm. | agent: Mm-hmm.
customer: I think he's more suited to own company-owned stores. But you have to want to f- develop these relationships with people you haven't met before. You have to believe that you can trust them with your baby, which is your brand, and it's a, and, and it's not for everybody, quite honestly.
agent: Y... | 4,900.614 | 4,901.094 | customer | eng | vi | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Uh, but Wingstop, on the other hand, is a, is a different story, right? I mean, we didn't, we didn't get into this, but it went public in 2015, and it is a massive multi-billion dollar business. I think there are about 3,000 locations around the world. Uh, just a, a massive business, right? And, and I wonder what you t... | customer: I think he's more suited to own company-owned stores. But you have to want to f- develop these relationships with people you haven't met before. You have to believe that you can trust them with your baby, which is your brand, and it's a, and, and it's not for everybody, quite honestly.
agent: Yeah. And, and P... | 4,901.094 | 4,925.434 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I know. I mean, sitting on my couch, watching an NFL game, and now they're buying national ads on, on Sunday football. | agent: Yeah. And, and Pizza Patron has a, a pretty small footprint today. I think about, like, 70 or 80 stores, mostly in Texas and, and Arizona.
customer: Mm-hmm.
agent: Uh, but Wingstop, on the other hand, is a, is a different story, right? I mean, we didn't, we didn't get into this, but it went public in 2015, and i... | 4,925.434 | 4,932.614 | customer | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Oh, yeah. | customer: Mm-hmm.
agent: Uh, but Wingstop, on the other hand, is a, is a different story, right? I mean, we didn't, we didn't get into this, but it went public in 2015, and it is a massive multi-billion dollar business. I think there are about 3,000 locations around the world. Uh, just a, a massive business, right? And... | 4,932.614 | 4,932.674 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I mean, it's, it's, it, it's amazing. Um, and I'm happy for them. And I... People ask me all the time, "Aren't you sorry you sold that company?" Well, n- not, not completely because I tell you, these guys, some very smart people were involved. They were able to grow it. They continue to grow it. And I'm, and I'm happy ... | agent: Uh, but Wingstop, on the other hand, is a, is a different story, right? I mean, we didn't, we didn't get into this, but it went public in 2015, and it is a massive multi-billion dollar business. I think there are about 3,000 locations around the world. Uh, just a, a massive business, right? And, and I wonder wha... | 4,932.674 | 4,969.314 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. Yeah, I wonder, I mean, you think about, like, w- uh, we, we touched on this a little bit, but where you grew up, how you grew up, um, you know, and I, and I know there have been ups and downs in your life. You've had, um, sh- a lot of ups. You, how many kids do you have? | customer: I know. I mean, sitting on my couch, watching an NFL game, and now they're buying national ads on, on Sunday football.
agent: Oh, yeah.
customer: I mean, it's, it's, it, it's amazing. Um, and I'm happy for them. And I... People ask me all the time, "Aren't you sorry you sold that company?" Well, n- not, not c... | 4,969.314 | 4,985.114 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Two. | agent: Oh, yeah.
customer: I mean, it's, it's, it, it's amazing. Um, and I'm happy for them. And I... People ask me all the time, "Aren't you sorry you sold that company?" Well, n- not, not completely because I tell you, these guys, some very smart people were involved. They were able to grow it. They continue to grow ... | 4,985.114 | 4,985.294 | customer | eng | pl | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And, uh, you were, you f- you know, you were married, and th- those ended, and, uh, you remarried. I think you still have a decent relationship with at least one of your former wives, maybe both. | customer: I mean, it's, it's, it, it's amazing. Um, and I'm happy for them. And I... People ask me all the time, "Aren't you sorry you sold that company?" Well, n- not, not completely because I tell you, these guys, some very smart people were involved. They were able to grow it. They continue to grow it. And I'm, and ... | 4,986.354 | 4,999.214 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | agent: Yeah. Yeah, I wonder, I mean, you think about, like, w- uh, we, we touched on this a little bit, but where you grew up, how you grew up, um, you know, and I, and I know there have been ups and downs in your life. You've had, um, sh- a lot of ups. You, how many kids do you have?
customer: Two.
agent: And, uh, you... | 4,999.214 | 4,999.713 | customer | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Um, but life is complicated, right? I mean, that's not... That's, that we all have complicated lives. And I... And, and so you've been through a lot, and you have seen a lot, and you came from a background that, you know, didn't set you up or tee you up for financial success, right? 'Cause it, 'cause you didn't know an... | customer: Two.
agent: And, uh, you were, you f- you know, you were married, and th- those ended, and, uh, you remarried. I think you still have a decent relationship with at least one of your former wives, maybe both.
customer: Yeah. | 4,999.714 | 5,034.814 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I, I attribute it to, uh, the ability to attract and maintain real excellent people. You know, I read a book years ago by Victor Kiam, the guy that bought the Remington Shaver company. | agent: And, uh, you were, you f- you know, you were married, and th- those ended, and, uh, you remarried. I think you still have a decent relationship with at least one of your former wives, maybe both.
customer: Yeah.
agent: Um, but life is complicated, right? I mean, that's not... That's, that we all have complicated... | 5,035.914 | 5,051.794 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Oh, yeah, I remember him. | customer: Yeah.
agent: Um, but life is complicated, right? I mean, that's not... That's, that we all have complicated lives. And I... And, and so you've been through a lot, and you have seen a lot, and you came from a background that, you know, didn't set you up or tee you up for financial success, right? 'Cause it, 'c... | 5,051.794 | 5,052.814 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Pri- prior to that, he was the sales manager for p- Playtex bras and girdles. | agent: Um, but life is complicated, right? I mean, that's not... That's, that we all have complicated lives. And I... And, and so you've been through a lot, and you have seen a lot, and you came from a background that, you know, didn't set you up or tee you up for financial success, right? 'Cause it, 'cause you didn't ... | 5,052.814 | 5,059.434 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm. | customer: I, I attribute it to, uh, the ability to attract and maintain real excellent people. You know, I read a book years ago by Victor Kiam, the guy that bought the Remington Shaver company.
agent: Oh, yeah, I remember him.
customer: Pri- prior to that, he was the sales manager for p- Playtex bras and girdles. | 5,059.434 | 5,059.454 | agent | eng | pt | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
This was years ago. And in his book, he said he had the best sales team because he would sit them down in a chair, and he was able to paint the vista. He'd make them look out a window, and he'd call it painting the vista. He could get people to believe in what he wanted them to believe in and then work towards it. And ... | agent: Oh, yeah, I remember him.
customer: Pri- prior to that, he was the sales manager for p- Playtex bras and girdles.
agent: Mm. | 5,059.454 | 5,114.454 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
That's Antonio Swad, founder of Wingstop and Pizza Patron. By the way, and this isn't exactly a side hustle, but Antonio has also dabbled in national politics. In 2022, he actually ran for Congress as a Republican in Texas's 32nd district. He didn't win, and he says the experience was so unpleasant, he's not interested... | customer: Pri- prior to that, he was the sales manager for p- Playtex bras and girdles.
agent: Mm.
customer: This was years ago. And in his book, he said he had the best sales team because he would sit them down in a chair, and he was able to paint the vista. He'd make them look out a window, and he'd call it painting ... | 5,115.834 | 5,181.454 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
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In the early days, believe it or not, we'd actually go to the wholesale clubs, so BJ's, Sam's Club, and we would buy the diapers. | agent: This message is brought to you by Apple Card. For a limited time, when you get a new Apple Card and purchase AirPods Pro 3 at Apple, you can earn back the cost, up to 250 Daily Cash. New AirPods Pro and up to $250 bonus Daily Cash back? Now, that's music to my ears. Subject to credit approval. Limitations and sp... | 242.8 | 250.98 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And you were just paying full price for these diapers? | agent: This message is brought to you by Apple Card. For a limited time, when you get a new Apple Card and purchase AirPods Pro 3 at Apple, you can earn back the cost, up to 250 Daily Cash. New AirPods Pro and up to $250 bonus Daily Cash back? Now, that's music to my ears. Subject to credit approval. Limitations and sp... | 250.98 | 253.52 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Full price, no discount. | agent: This message is brought to you by Apple Card. For a limited time, when you get a new Apple Card and purchase AirPods Pro 3 at Apple, you can earn back the cost, up to 250 Daily Cash. New AirPods Pro and up to $250 bonus Daily Cash back? Now, that's music to my ears. Subject to credit approval. Limitations and sp... | 253.52 | 255.38 | customer | eng | it | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Then you gotta mark it up on the website. So why would somebody buy them from you on the website? | customer: In the early days, believe it or not, we'd actually go to the wholesale clubs, so BJ's, Sam's Club, and we would buy the diapers.
agent: And you were just paying full price for these diapers?
customer: Full price, no discount. | 255.38 | 260.74 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
[laughs] We didn't mark them up. | agent: And you were just paying full price for these diapers?
customer: Full price, no discount.
agent: Then you gotta mark it up on the website. So why would somebody buy them from you on the website? | 260.74 | 262.2 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
You didn't mark them up? | customer: Full price, no discount.
agent: Then you gotta mark it up on the website. So why would somebody buy them from you on the website?
customer: [laughs] We didn't mark them up. | 262.2 | 263.66 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
No. We just lost more money. | agent: Then you gotta mark it up on the website. So why would somebody buy them from you on the website?
customer: [laughs] We didn't mark them up.
agent: You didn't mark them up? | 263.66 | 265.12 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So you, [laughs] so you were basically losing money to make it more convenient for people to get diapers. | customer: [laughs] We didn't mark them up.
agent: You didn't mark them up?
customer: No. We just lost more money. | 265.12 | 270.08 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
As one investor liked to say, "Let me get this straight. So you're selling a dollar for 90 cents?" | agent: You didn't mark them up?
customer: No. We just lost more money.
agent: So you, [laughs] so you were basically losing money to make it more convenient for people to get diapers. | 270.08 | 276.42 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Welcome to How I Built This, a show about innovators, entrepreneurs, idealists, and the stories behind the movements they built. I'm Guy Raz, and on the show today, how Marc Lore took an idea guaranteed to lose him money selling diapers online, built an e-commerce giant, sold it to Amazon, and then went head-to-head wi... | customer: No. We just lost more money.
agent: So you, [laughs] so you were basically losing money to make it more convenient for people to get diapers.
customer: As one investor liked to say, "Let me get this straight. So you're selling a dollar for 90 cents?" | 280.14 | 471.66 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
So it was kind of fun. You know, I was probably a junior in high school going to my mom's bodybuilding competitions. | agent: So you, [laughs] so you were basically losing money to make it more convenient for people to get diapers.
customer: As one investor liked to say, "Let me get this straight. So you're selling a dollar for 90 cents?"
agent: Welcome to How I Built This, a show about innovators, entrepreneurs, idealists, and the sto... | 471.66 | 477.94 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Wow. | customer: As one investor liked to say, "Let me get this straight. So you're selling a dollar for 90 cents?"
agent: Welcome to How I Built This, a show about innovators, entrepreneurs, idealists, and the stories behind the movements they built. I'm Guy Raz, and on the show today, how Marc Lore took an idea guaranteed t... | 477.94 | 478.26 | agent | eng | pl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
But, uh, she did well. She, she won a couple competitions and things. It was fun, but really inspirational as a kid, you know? | agent: Welcome to How I Built This, a show about innovators, entrepreneurs, idealists, and the stories behind the movements they built. I'm Guy Raz, and on the show today, how Marc Lore took an idea guaranteed to lose him money selling diapers online, built an e-commerce giant, sold it to Amazon, and then went head-to-... | 478.26 | 484.73 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | she won a couple competitions and things. It was fun, but really inspirational as a kid | medium | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
I bet, yeah. My mom's a bodybuilder. There's my mom. I ripped Mom. She's gonna kick your butt. | customer: So it was kind of fun. You know, I was probably a junior in high school going to my mom's bodybuilding competitions.
agent: Wow.
customer: But, uh, she did well. She, she won a couple competitions and things. It was fun, but really inspirational as a kid, you know? | 484.73 | 490.04 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
[laughs] She used to squat, like, three hundred and fifty pounds when she was- | agent: Wow.
customer: But, uh, she did well. She, she won a couple competitions and things. It was fun, but really inspirational as a kid, you know?
agent: I bet, yeah. My mom's a bodybuilder. There's my mom. I ripped Mom. She's gonna kick your butt. | 490.04 | 494.53 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
What? | customer: But, uh, she did well. She, she won a couple competitions and things. It was fun, but really inspirational as a kid, you know?
agent: I bet, yeah. My mom's a bodybuilder. There's my mom. I ripped Mom. She's gonna kick your butt.
customer: [laughs] She used to squat, like, three hundred and fifty pounds when s... | 494.53 | 494.53 | agent | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... like a hundred and ten pounds. Yeah. | agent: I bet, yeah. My mom's a bodybuilder. There's my mom. I ripped Mom. She's gonna kick your butt.
customer: [laughs] She used to squat, like, three hundred and fifty pounds when she was-
agent: What? | 494.53 | 496.8 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
That's insane. | customer: [laughs] She used to squat, like, three hundred and fifty pounds when she was-
agent: What?
customer: ... like a hundred and ten pounds. Yeah. | 496.8 | 498.12 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I know. | agent: What?
customer: ... like a hundred and ten pounds. Yeah.
agent: That's insane. | 498.12 | 498.86 | customer | eng | pl | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I, I read that, like, when you were in middle school, you got into, you know, different businesses and stuff, and you started, like, selling baseball cards in high school, and, uh, did you make money? Were you, were you good at, like, buying cards for cheap and selling them for, for more expensive? | customer: ... like a hundred and ten pounds. Yeah.
agent: That's insane.
customer: I know. | 498.86 | 512.86 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, I would say we did okay. I did it with, uh, very close friends, Lax Chandra. Big part of the business was grunt work. We would buy cases of baseball cards that weren't sorted- | agent: That's insane.
customer: I know.
agent: I, I read that, like, when you were in middle school, you got into, you know, different businesses and stuff, and you started, like, selling baseball cards in high school, and, uh, did you make money? Were you, were you good at, like, buying cards for cheap and selling the... | 512.86 | 524.22 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Mm. | customer: I know.
agent: I, I read that, like, when you were in middle school, you got into, you know, different businesses and stuff, and you started, like, selling baseball cards in high school, and, uh, did you make money? Were you, were you good at, like, buying cards for cheap and selling them for, for more expens... | 524.22 | 524.55 | agent | eng | pt | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... and then we would basically sort them into full sets and then sell the sets, and the sets were sold at a premium because somebody had to sort them. | agent: I, I read that, like, when you were in middle school, you got into, you know, different businesses and stuff, and you started, like, selling baseball cards in high school, and, uh, did you make money? Were you, were you good at, like, buying cards for cheap and selling them for, for more expensive?
customer: Yea... | 524.55 | 532.04 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. | customer: Yeah, I would say we did okay. I did it with, uh, very close friends, Lax Chandra. Big part of the business was grunt work. We would buy cases of baseball cards that weren't sorted-
agent: Mm.
customer: ... and then we would basically sort them into full sets and then sell the sets, and the sets were sold at ... | 532.04 | 532.24 | agent | eng | id | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And put... So we would do that all summer, but also did every possible sort of job a kid could possibly do, everything from, you know, newspapers, recyclables, washing cars, mowing lawns, picking weeds, anything to make a buck. | agent: Mm.
customer: ... and then we would basically sort them into full sets and then sell the sets, and the sets were sold at a premium because somebody had to sort them.
agent: Yeah. | 532.24 | 547.86 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. Um, how were you at school as a kid? Were you good in school? | customer: ... and then we would basically sort them into full sets and then sell the sets, and the sets were sold at a premium because somebody had to sort them.
agent: Yeah.
customer: And put... So we would do that all summer, but also did every possible sort of job a kid could possibly do, everything from, you know, ... | 547.86 | 552.44 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
No, I wasn't good at school. I, I definitely had some... You know, my parents used to fight all the time. It was like a... It was rough growing up. | agent: Yeah.
customer: And put... So we would do that all summer, but also did every possible sort of job a kid could possibly do, everything from, you know, newspapers, recyclables, washing cars, mowing lawns, picking weeds, anything to make a buck.
agent: Yeah. Um, how were you at school as a kid? Were you good in sc... | 552.44 | 559.98 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm. | customer: And put... So we would do that all summer, but also did every possible sort of job a kid could possibly do, everything from, you know, newspapers, recyclables, washing cars, mowing lawns, picking weeds, anything to make a buck.
agent: Yeah. Um, how were you at school as a kid? Were you good in school?
custome... | 559.98 | 560.68 | agent | eng | sv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
I didn't focus on school at all. My parents... I was the first person to go to a four-year college, and my parents didn't really know much about school. My mom went back to get her high school diploma. You know, they got married when my dad was 20, she was 19, had me less than a year later. Yeah, it w- it was, I, I, I ... | agent: Yeah. Um, how were you at school as a kid? Were you good in school?
customer: No, I wasn't good at school. I, I definitely had some... You know, my parents used to fight all the time. It was like a... It was rough growing up.
agent: Hmm. | 560.68 | 582.26 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | My parents didn't really know much about school | medium | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
Hmm | customer: No, I wasn't good at school. I, I definitely had some... You know, my parents used to fight all the time. It was like a... It was rough growing up.
agent: Hmm.
customer: I didn't focus on school at all. My parents... I was the first person to go to a four-year college, and my parents didn't really know much a... | 582.26 | 582.44 | agent | eng | da | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... didn't pay attention in class. I was the class clown. I would... Just didn't take school seriously, and there was no repercussions at all. In fact, when I was a sophomore in high school, I remember somebody asking me, "Hey, so where are you gonna go to college? Are you thinking about college yet?" I said, "I don't ... | agent: Hmm.
customer: I didn't focus on school at all. My parents... I was the first person to go to a four-year college, and my parents didn't really know much about school. My mom went back to get her high school diploma. You know, they got married when my dad was 20, she was 19, had me less than a year later. Yeah, ... | 582.44 | 612.76 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm. | customer: I didn't focus on school at all. My parents... I was the first person to go to a four-year college, and my parents didn't really know much about school. My mom went back to get her high school diploma. You know, they got married when my dad was 20, she was 19, had me less than a year later. Yeah, it w- it was... | 612.76 | 613.56 | agent | eng | sv | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
This is literally the first time I ever understood or knew, sophomore year in high school, that you had to get accepted. | agent: Hmm
customer: ... didn't pay attention in class. I was the class clown. I would... Just didn't take school seriously, and there was no repercussions at all. In fact, when I was a sophomore in high school, I remember somebody asking me, "Hey, so where are you gonna go to college? Are you thinking about college ye... | 613.56 | 619.46 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Wow. | customer: ... didn't pay attention in class. I was the class clown. I would... Just didn't take school seriously, and there was no repercussions at all. In fact, when I was a sophomore in high school, I remember somebody asking me, "Hey, so where are you gonna go to college? Are you thinking about college yet?" I said,... | 619.46 | 620.26 | agent | eng | pl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
And so that was sort of a wake-up call [laughs]. And then, and then junior year, I did start, like, applying myself and did, did better. | agent: Hmm.
customer: This is literally the first time I ever understood or knew, sophomore year in high school, that you had to get accepted.
agent: Wow. | 620.26 | 627.86 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, it sounds like it wasn't particularly stressed at home that, like, you had to do well and make good grades and stuff. | customer: This is literally the first time I ever understood or knew, sophomore year in high school, that you had to get accepted.
agent: Wow.
customer: And so that was sort of a wake-up call [laughs]. And then, and then junior year, I did start, like, applying myself and did, did better. | 627.86 | 633.18 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah, not at all, but I was mathematically gifted, like gifted in math. When I was a little kid, as a soothing mechanism, you know, I used to count, and then eventually, when I got a little bit older, I used to do multiplication problems in my head and big stuff like that. Yeah, it was just, it just, I guess it was jus... | agent: Wow.
customer: And so that was sort of a wake-up call [laughs]. And then, and then junior year, I did start, like, applying myself and did, did better.
agent: Yeah, it sounds like it wasn't particularly stressed at home that, like, you had to do well and make good grades and stuff. | 633.18 | 652.16 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
You ended up going to Bucknell University in Pennsylvania, and I guess on a track and field scholarship, right? Like, you, that was why you ended up going there because as a kid, you were, like, a, a pretty gifted athlete. You were, like, a, a high school state champion. | customer: And so that was sort of a wake-up call [laughs]. And then, and then junior year, I did start, like, applying myself and did, did better.
agent: Yeah, it sounds like it wasn't particularly stressed at home that, like, you had to do well and make good grades and stuff.
customer: Yeah, not at all, but I was math... | 652.16 | 668.72 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Yeah. So what, it wasn't... They don't give scholarship, but it was what helped me get into that school because I didn't have the grades to get in. But, uh, when I got there, I didn't realize this, but when I got there, the coach sat me down and he said, "Okay, you know, you're basically on academic probation"- | agent: Yeah, it sounds like it wasn't particularly stressed at home that, like, you had to do well and make good grades and stuff.
customer: Yeah, not at all, but I was mathematically gifted, like gifted in math. When I was a little kid, as a soothing mechanism, you know, I used to count, and then eventually, when I go... | 668.72 | 685.36 | customer | eng | en | unknown | founder | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Wow | customer: Yeah, not at all, but I was mathematically gifted, like gifted in math. When I was a little kid, as a soothing mechanism, you know, I used to count, and then eventually, when I got a little bit older, I used to do multiplication problems in my head and big stuff like that. Yeah, it was just, it just, I guess ... | 685.36 | 685.37 | agent | eng | pl | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... the day I got there. And they said, you know, "You need to, like, get certain grades to stay on this team." And I said, "Well, you know, I wanna be a decathlete," which is 10 events, and he said, "No, you're not gonna have time to train for that. You need to focus on school if you're gonna stay on this team and sta... | agent: You ended up going to Bucknell University in Pennsylvania, and I guess on a track and field scholarship, right? Like, you, that was why you ended up going there because as a kid, you were, like, a, a pretty gifted athlete. You were, like, a, a high school state champion.
customer: Yeah. So what, it wasn't... The... | 685.37 | 722.64 | customer | eng | en | us | founder | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | You need to, like, get certain grades to stay on this team. | medium | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | ||||||
Wow. What, what did, what did you, what explains that? Did you... Were your classes more interesting once you got to college? Were they easier or, or what? | customer: Yeah. So what, it wasn't... They don't give scholarship, but it was what helped me get into that school because I didn't have the grades to get in. But, uh, when I got there, I didn't realize this, but when I got there, the coach sat me down and he said, "Okay, you know, you're basically on academic probation... | 722.64 | 729.36 | agent | eng | en | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
It was more just, first of all, I was challenged by the coach, and I felt like, you know, I think he thought I was just not smart or something- | agent: Wow
customer: ... the day I got there. And they said, you know, "You need to, like, get certain grades to stay on this team." And I said, "Well, you know, I wanna be a decathlete," which is 10 events, and he said, "No, you're not gonna have time to train for that. You need to focus on school if you're gonna stay... | 730.028 | 737.308 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
Hmm | customer: ... the day I got there. And they said, you know, "You need to, like, get certain grades to stay on this team." And I said, "Well, you know, I wanna be a decathlete," which is 10 events, and he said, "No, you're not gonna have time to train for that. You need to focus on school if you're gonna stay on this te... | 737.308 | 737.318 | agent | eng | da | unknown | host | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct | |||||||
... 'cause the way it started off, and- | agent: Wow. What, what did, what did you, what explains that? Did you... Were your classes more interesting once you got to college? Were they easier or, or what?
customer: It was more just, first of all, I was challenged by the coach, and I felt like, you know, I think he thought I was just not smart or something-
age... | 737.318 | 739.188 | customer | eng | en | unknown | other | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | high | Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct_20260713T143033Z | meta-llama/Llama-3.3-70B-Instruct |
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