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Well said, my friend. + 100.
Sun, 08/05/2012 - 17:28 | 2680174 shuckster
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People will forever deny the nature of the beast so long as he is not standing in front of them. And when he does, they will say "no, that's not a beast". They are foolish and they will be punished in short order. Nature punishes the foolish people mercilously. I have no sympathy for them. Let them take their punishment. "Let those who will die, die and those who will live live". This is far beyond the point of reasoning. We are in the jaws of the beast. 
It reminds me of a conversation I had with my parents recently. A commercial came on TV and I scoffed at the Navy add which showed an aircraft carrier. They said "that's so cool that we have those" (referring to the aircraft carrier). I couldn't help but say "what are you joking? Those things are a joke! They can be shot out of the ocean with a single missile. They are a complete waste of (our taxpayer) money!" But still, I was alone in my outrage. The world is too ugly a place for some people to look at. They cannot look into the eyes of the beast, because they are too terrified. They'd rather fall into the fetal position than run. They'd rather take the cyanide pill than be conscious when their life is ripped away from them. Ignore them. They are too far gone. Save yourself first
Sun, 08/05/2012 - 18:37 | 2680219 honestann
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Indeed.  I must admit my disappointment that those of us who "get it", and who decided to "save ourselves", can't seem to collaborate.  I suppose that's because apparent collaborators so often turn out to be predators in disguise, which makes collaboration a risky gamble.  However, we all know the impressive efficiency gains possible when several people focus on their strengths.  What's that called?  Is it "comparative advantage"?  You know what I mean.
Of course we can never tell how bad it will get in advance, but my latest estimate is... life will get very, extremely bad in the next few years.  Much worse than most pessimists imagine.  Well beyond "inconvenient", and quite far into EXTREMELY BAD.
And frankly, I'm almost certain it is a one-way trip down the tubes for human beings.  Unless a few of us get our butts off this planet, I suspect mankind is finished --- literally.  But I do expect a huge quantity of suffering will occur before the final human lights expire.
The grave of mankind should state: the stupidest lifeform on planet earth - who convinced themselves they were smartest.
Sun, 08/05/2012 - 18:42 | 2680302 CH1
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I must admit my disappointment that those of us who "get it"...
My disappointment is that they talk forever, but NEVER ACT.
They are forever waiting for other people to do it, or for someone to grant them permission to do it. But they never grow stones and do it themselves.
NOTHING will change until people ACT. Ever.
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 15:28 | 2680968 honestann
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Oh, I am - and have been - taking real actions, no doubt about that!  However, they are rather isolated from and uncoordinated with other actions that other individualists might take, which is my disappointment.
I moved out of dodge a few years ago, I acquired a travel vehicle that can take me 4000km (across fictional borders and open ocean) without refueling (not as good as a wind-powered yacht in many ways, but it has other advantages), I am setting up more and more self-sufficiency in what most people would call "extreme boonies" (with no road access), and so forth.
I am preparing to avoid, not sanction or assist predators (civilian or otherwise).  I will not fight anyone unless directly attacked, which is unlikely in extreme boonies.  For "fighting" to be effective, collaboration would be necessary, and as you say, nobody ever acts in those sort of ways today, except rarely to "sacrifice themself" in some small way to make a protest statement.  I guess that might help a tiny bit on the margins, but any movement needs health and vigor to succeed, not fines and time in cages.
So yes, people are curiously unwilling to act in any coordinated way.  So all that remains are individual actions to implement individual plans.  Well, then.  For all the talk, no coordinated action.  I get it.  So be it.  Individual plans and actions it is.
Sun, 08/05/2012 - 15:48 | 2679989 headless blogger
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Yep, it's being done right in front of everyone's face. Nobody can say we didn't warn 'em.
Domestically, the drone program and other high tech surveillance (much of which is being developed at "prestigious" colleges and institutions) is what has my feathers ruffled lately. Besides the ability of these psychopathic "drone operators" being able to see into our daughter's bedroom, etc, they also have the radar systems that see through walls:
I've been trying to talk to people about this but you hit the nail in your comment, in the affect that people just don't care.
People used to oooh and aaaaaah Orwell's 1984, but what we got coming down the pipe now is making that look like child's play.
Sun, 08/05/2012 - 12:27 | 2679516 Fix It Again Timmy
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"Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." - Frederick Douglass
In that case, America is Fucked...
Gore Vidal For President - even dead he would be better than what we have or will have....
Sun, 08/05/2012 - 11:46 | 2679432 kilroy
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Sun, 08/05/2012 - 15:03 | 2679899 monad
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(John) Rockefeller got busy. Writers were hired to write pamphlets which were sent broadcast to every editor in the country, bulletins. In these leaflets, it was shown how perfectly happy was the life of the miner until the agitators came; how joyous he was with the company's saloon,. the company's pigstys for homes, the cornpany's teachers and preachers and coroners. How the miners hated the state law of an eight-hour working day, begging to be allowed to work ten, twelve. How they hated the state law that they should have their own check weigh-man to see that they were not cheated at the tipple.
Mother Jones
Is it normal to feel this anxious?
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teacher123 Tue 19-Feb-13 17:24:00
I have a gorgeous 10mo baby boy, who is fab in every way. He has a great sense of humour and is brilliant company, loves playing with his toys and is eating well etc. However I am anxious to the point of nausea on a daily basis about all sorts of things. Whether he's napped enough/too much/drunk his milk/not drunk his milk/eaten enough lumpy food/you name it. I had an awful labour and was very ill after he was born and his sleep was terrible for the first few months. This has made me terrified about things that might affect his sleep etc. I can honestly say at the moment that the thought of another child makes me feel ill. People keep asking when we're going to have another one and I just think I would never ever in a million years cope. Do other people feel like this or should I speak to someone?
Habichuela Tue 19-Feb-13 18:15:57
Hi there,
If your anxiety is making you feel ill I think you need to see your GP, you shouldn't let these feelings continue as it could effect your relationship with your little one. You might benefit from counseling?
Pancakeflipper Tue 19-Feb-13 18:17:00
Oh poor you.
To me it sounds like anxiety. It is very normal to worry but I think you have upped it to the next level where you hardly get to enjoy things.
Sounds like your brain won't stop whirring.
You are not the first to feel like this and you are not the last.
What is your HV like? If they have been a good support then have a chat with them. They will help you, not judge. They have seen it all before. And if you don't know what to say - copy/paste/print your post on here and hand it over.
If not your HV what about your Dr? They can also help.
Do you get anytime that is just you?
teacher123 Tue 19-Feb-13 18:37:10
Thank you for your kind replies smile yes I get plenty of time to myself-am going back to work in a couple of months and DH is brilliant, as are all grandparents. (Happy to babysit for spa days etc!) DS is a wonderful baby as well-very cheerful, hardly cries etc. I just feel like I'm ruining it all by worrying so much hmm I honestly get shaky if he won't go down for his nap, and cry.
Pancakeflipper Tue 19-Feb-13 18:47:11
Sound like you have fantastic support, that will help you lots.
Will you chat to your HV or your Dr? Please don't think they will think you are crazy, they honestly won't.
Please don't think you are not a good mummy. I think this age is hard, it is soooo much easier when they are toddlers ( I think!).
But do chat to the HV or Dr.
peachypips Tue 19-Feb-13 18:49:33
I hate to say the dreaded words but sounds like PND. The most common symptom is not depression but anxiety. Get ye to the GP and either get a bit of CBT or have some drugs.
Very blunt- sorry xxx (kisses to soften post)
ChoudeBruxelles Tue 19-Feb-13 18:51:02
You sound like I was. Go and see your gp. I had pnd and anxiety. I was actually better once I went back to work as I didn't worry as much.
BeaWheesht Tue 19-Feb-13 19:11:25
I was like this with dc1. For me, it was definitely PND brought on by a horrendous pregnancy and me being a perfectionist - I felt like ds was the first 'thing' in my life I couldn't control.
Go speak to your health visitor or doc and in the meantime try and think of 'what's the worst that could happen' and be realistic don't catastrophise. I try and live by the 'will it matter in 10 years?' Rule of thumb these days.
Oh and guess what I now have 2 dc and if it weren't for my awful pregnancies I'd have many more grin
sleepcrisis Tue 19-Feb-13 19:28:39
You sound exactly how I felt, and I also had great support network, but it didn't change how I felt, just made me feel guilty that I still couldn't cope. I also used to have the fear about sleep and also had panic attacks when he wouldn't nap etc.
I was diagnosed with PND, OCD and anxiety all rolled into one and am now on meds and had a fab course of CBT. DS is now 20 mo and am beginning to finally feel like I could have another one and am considering coming off the tablets so I can ttc. The thought of 2 terrified me until recently.
Speak to your GP, CBT can work wonders. I repeat what BeaWheesht has said throughout my daily life 'what's the worst that can happen?' And I learnt the word catastrophise!
shoesontheglasslamp Tue 19-Feb-13 19:30:14
I so recognise what you're saying.
I was similar until my PND diagnosis, then CBT and medication. Everything is so much better now.
It doesn't have to be like this. Please chat with GP or HV, it can't hurt and may really help.
Take the chance and soon you'll really enjoy your lovely DS
Jac1978 Tue 19-Feb-13 19:39:56
God I'm the same - if I give her finger food I panic about her choking, if I take her swimming I worry about her drowning, if we get in the car I worry about crashing, now she is crawling I'm convinced she's going to injure herself or eat something she shouldn't - the worry is exhausting and it's impossible to enjoy being a mum. Is she sleeping too much/not enough, is she eating too much/not enough, am I playing with her enough - it goes on and on!!! So I do sympathise. I think at the root if it is our own feelings of inadequacy and this probably needs to be worked through before we become unhappy but I also think that feeling overwhelmed is understandable, after all, what other job in the world would you be expected to go straight into with no training or supervision, being on call 24 hours a day, with every task having to be redone over and over and not receive any pay or feedback?!!! It's amazing we aren't all gibbering wrecks! I hope you find help to deal with your anxiety but all I can say is that it's ok to make mistakes and if you have a happy healthy baby that means you are doing a good job x
bunchofposy Tue 19-Feb-13 20:47:21
I would say it is normal, because that is how I was, but I have nothing to compare it with. I worried about everything. I have only just been able to sleep in a separate bed from my DD, and she is almost 3. Funnily enough, I didn't worry when she was with people I trusted to look after her, just when I was looking after her, so maybe it is about feeling inadequate (hadn't considered this).
I worried about all the things Jac1978 says (in fact are you me?!) I also became desperately upset by anything on the news involving children to the point of having to avoid all news some weeks.
I did go to a doctor but partly because I was also angry (not with DD) all the time. Becoming a mum seemed to make a lot of my issues come flooding out. It was partly lack of sleep but I have wondered if it was PND. I had a few CBT sessions then moved house. I only felt ready to even think about another when DD was over 2. I sometimes wish I had waited longer even (currently expecting #2 and slightly panicking!). Just ignore anyone asking you about having another. Why should you be ready? Your baby is still very young, there is no reason you should rush it.
teacher123 Tue 19-Feb-13 22:26:47
Thank you for all your messages-it gives me hope that something can make me feel a bit better. I am just so sick of feeling so stressed out all the time. Will make a GP appt tomorrow. The FIRST thing I think about when DS wakes in the morning is to worry about what we have planned for the day and whether he'll settle ok for his naps. I don't even know what I think will happen if he doesn't, just that it will be the end of the world. The irony is that he's a very chilled out baby most of the time, he definitely takes after DH not me!
mummy2benji Thu 21-Feb-13 20:42:01
Yes I was going to say you might have PND too. I think a degree of anxiety is not uncommon in all first-time mums, and all the postnatal hormones contribute to that. When ds was a baby I used to worry about all sorts of morbid things - if I was walking down the stairs, I'd have a horrible image of me dropping him and him falling to the bottom. Or if I was pushing his buggy along the pavement by a busy main road I'd worry about a lorry losing control and hitting us, and the buggy going flying. I wondered if I was going crazy! My HV was very reassuring and said it isn't uncommon to be anxious, as this little person enters your life and suddenly they are so precious and so helpless and you love them more than anything - how could you not worry about things happening to them?! But equally it sounds like your anxiety is focused on things like routine, and naps, and feeds, which I think you know deep down just doesn't matter - babies are very adaptable. My dd is 4 months and just fits in with whatever we are doing - sometimes she doesn't get the chance to finish a feed as we have to go out on the school run, the poor thing has to wait and finish it when we get home. She naps in the car, in her chair at home, or in my baby carrier. Her nap times vary - she sleeps when she is tired, and when ds doesn't wake her up by charging about like a herd of elephants or by trying to give her a hug. Honestly, your ds will be absolutely fine if he misses a nap, or goes to bed late - he'll compensate by sleeping another time, if he needs it. Go easy on yourself and try not to have a lot of expectations or put pressure on yourself. It sounds like you're doing great and a fab mum. I hope your GP is helpful. All the best x
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