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CMV: Now is probably not the time for historically-repressed groups to seek for their rights.
Historically-repressed groups: exactly what it means: women, ethnic/racial/religious minorities (not necessarily **numerical** minorities, just ask South Africa), people with disabilities, resident foreigners and LGBT people.... | Why wouldn't it be easier and better to slip your rights in as something to be changed while a lot of other change is going on?
If people are mostly distracted by a bunch of wild stories in the media, a lot of changes can happen with somewhat minimal resistance. For example, several states have introduced a gender-neu... | What rights do these oppressed groups still lack? | ao5dpj | CMV: Now is probably not the time for historically-repressed groups to seek for their rights. | Historically-repressed groups: exactly what it means: women, ethnic/racial/religious minorities (not necessarily **numerical** minorities, just ask South Africa), people with disabilities, resident foreigners and LGBT people.
This may not apply to some groups or some countries. These are some of the reasons why I'm st... | 1,549,556,344 | garaile64 | efyat9k | efy9xyb | 6 | -4 |
CMV: Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, Steel is an accurate representation of why society has progressed like it has.
I often see much hate for the ideas in the book *Guns, Germs, and Steel* but few of them ever seem to live up to scrutiny on my part. The overall main idea of the book is that geography is the main driving ... | I'm an archaeologist who works in Mesoamerica and has taught Guns, Germs, and Steel in my classes a couple times. I use the book in class because I do think it's solid and generates good discussions, but I also have issues with it. Diamond is what an archaeologist would call an environmental determinist, which you've a... | To start, I'm not a historian. I haven't read the whole book, but I'm familiar with the general idea of it and some of the criticisms leveled against it. From what I can gather, it's not that historians think he's incorrect, but it sounds like he is overemphasizing the importance of several key factors, making untestab... | 8o8xao | CMV: Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, Steel is an accurate representation of why society has progressed like it has. | I often see much hate for the ideas in the book *Guns, Germs, and Steel* but few of them ever seem to live up to scrutiny on my part. The overall main idea of the book is that geography is the main driving factor in human history, and some of the more specific examples for why the Americas were colonized and not vice v... | 1,528,036,920 | Brybrysciguy | e01nqrf | e01n4og | 32 | 4 |
CMV: Traffic laws should be enforced by an unarmed traffic department
Having police officers enforce traffic laws is an inefficient use of resources and creates unnecessarily dangerous situations for both the public and the police officers. Police have so many difficult jobs to do and taking traffic enforcement off th... | What you’re suggesting may be the most efficient way of dealing with it, but what you’re doing is taking away a great deal of the normal community interaction that officers have. How would you feel having an officer walk up to your door having never had a normal interaction with an officer? How do you think officers w... | >”even a potential violent criminal would not be provoked to escalate the situation to violence if they knew the person stopping them was unarmed and could not detain or arrest them”
The problem with that is there’s no incentive for that person to even give an unarmed person the time of day if they can’t do anything a... | q6186e | CMV: Traffic laws should be enforced by an unarmed traffic department | Having police officers enforce traffic laws is an inefficient use of resources and creates unnecessarily dangerous situations for both the public and the police officers. Police have so many difficult jobs to do and taking traffic enforcement off the list would allow them to focus and get better at the other responsibi... | 1,633,973,989 | ee_anon | hg968as | hg959lf | 442 | 28 |
CMV: I think people are too harsh on all-white paintings
A lot of people like to sneer or laugh at them, use them as an example of the degeneracy of modern art and culture etc.
But honestly, I think some of these criticisms are a little ignorant.
1. When you see a all-white painting on a computer screen or a sheet o... | I think the big issue is context. Professional artists create these pieces with specific intentions, typically as a synthesis of a long line of artistic trends in recent history. It could even be based around a central idea. Something like "What is the least amount of information I can paint to convey [Emotion X]?" ... | >Art, unlike racecar driving and surgery, is entirely subjective.
So there is literally no such thing as good art or bad art?
>It has both monetary and non-monetary value. The non-monetary value is impossible to quantify, and means something different to each person.
You can say that about almost anything. My tedd... | 94cff3 | CMV: I think people are too harsh on all-white paintings | A lot of people like to sneer or laugh at them, use them as an example of the degeneracy of modern art and culture etc.
But honestly, I think some of these criticisms are a little ignorant.
1. When you see a all-white painting on a computer screen or a sheet of paper, it completely fails to convey one of the most int... | 1,533,323,046 | feartrich | e3jz0uv | e3jyzbd | 9 | 2 |
CMV: Any alcoholic drink with ice in it is a soup.
For those not familiar with the soup alignment chart, I would highly encourage you to look at it and find your alignment before arguing. https://i.redd.it/hqw1c9mm98gz.png I will fully admit I am an ingredient anarchist structural purist, and I believe that any alcoho... | Soup is not function of ingredients, it is function of dinner context. If it is a part of the meal, it is a soup. If it part of the complementary drink, it is not a soup.
If there was a culture drinking whisky for nourishment and drinking chicken broth as a side, whisky becomes the soup.
In french, "a la soupe"(sou... | So, in theory, I could have a soup of scotch on the rocks, and then if I wait long enough, it will stop being a soup?
Will chicken noodle or cream of mushroom stop being soup in an hour or two on a warm day?
Under this idea, soup becomes a transient state of being rather than a fixed type of culinary treat. | 94ex2l | CMV: Any alcoholic drink with ice in it is a soup. | For those not familiar with the soup alignment chart, I would highly encourage you to look at it and find your alignment before arguing. https://i.redd.it/hqw1c9mm98gz.png I will fully admit I am an ingredient anarchist structural purist, and I believe that any alcoholic drink, containing solid ice and alcohol, is tech... | 1,533,342,277 | kyotoAnimations | e3kj41j | e3kiotn | 4 | 2 |
CMV: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is not an antisemitic or genocidal chant
It's becoming a bit of a hot topic in recent weeks where people are claiming that the chant "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic or a call for genocide. Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary o... | >The chant started in the mid-1960s by the PLO as a call for Palestinian liberation. The Likud party even had the phrase "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty" in their founding charter in 1977. It was a phrase that predates Hamas or any terrorist organisations in Palestine. There is no... | >From Wiki, PLO is headquartered in Al-Bireh, a city in the West Bank. As the officially recognized government of the de jure State of Palestine, it has enjoyed United Nations observer status since 1974.
Yeah, sure, and the seat of the Roman Empire was Wetzlar, Germany in 1806.
Do you get my point?
>Palestinians in... | 17laopf | CMV: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is not an antisemitic or genocidal chant | It's becoming a bit of a hot topic in recent weeks where people are claiming that the chant "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic or a call for genocide. Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary of the UK, called the phrase "deeply offensive", and a Labour MP has been suspended for saying "We w... | 1,698,840,733 | GoSouthCourt | k7d6bwz | k7d4l6u | 89 | 13 |
CMV: Love is Conditional
Society paints this picture that true love is unconditional love. That you’ll love this person no matter what.
That is complete bullshit and I’m finding it hard to be convinced otherwise. The only thing that changes is the level of tolerance you are willing to deal with for a certain person.... | You can love a person, and also not like them.
I am going to love my kids no matter what they do. If they grow up to be the kind of criminals you describe, I'll still love them. I can't help that. I will also understand that they're terrible people who need to be in jail, and I will not support them in any way.
Bu... | Are events which will never happen in reality really "conditions"?
Let's hypothesize that a parent loves their child in all circumstances except under the condition that pigs sprout wings and fly. I would say that love is unconditional because that can't physically happen. Are you classifying that as "conditional lov... | 19aqs6y | CMV: Love is Conditional | Society paints this picture that true love is unconditional love. That you’ll love this person no matter what.
That is complete bullshit and I’m finding it hard to be convinced otherwise. The only thing that changes is the level of tolerance you are willing to deal with for a certain person.
For example, people alw... | 1,705,690,927 | Beachday4 | kims3eb | kimr5c1 | 22 | 2 |
CMV:i believe the sum of the series 1+2+3+4+.... does NOT = -1/12
i've watched a bunch of videos on this now (i'll link a few at the bottom) and absolutely none of those videos makes any sense in explaining why the sum of the series 1+2+3+4+... could possibly end up being being -1/12. it seems to me that mathematician... | I too thought it was nonsense for many years, but then I saw [this graph on wiki](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Sum1234Summary.svg/300px-Sum1234Summary.svg.png) with the note "Asymptotic behavior of the smoothing. The y-intercept of the parabola is − 1/12
You can see the height of each bloc... | Infinity does some very strange things. There is a reasonable argument to be had that we can't actually evaluate infinite series at all, though this throws among many other useful things, calculus and all of physics out the window (not just string theory, all of physics is based on infinite series [though convergent]).... | 6q7koq | CMV:i believe the sum of the series 1+2+3+4+.... does NOT = -1/12 | i've watched a bunch of videos on this now (i'll link a few at the bottom) and absolutely none of those videos makes any sense in explaining why the sum of the series 1+2+3+4+... could possibly end up being being -1/12. it seems to me that mathematicians are simply coming up with methods to get it to equal -1/12. none ... | 1,501,284,345 | kingbane2 | dkvbgpj | dkv7cb3 | 20 | 3 |
CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president.
I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believ... | I want to start this by saying that I'm not a fan of Trump, AT ALL. And I think he is easily hated by many. I think for his own mouth but the media as well. I am going to label one point here, that's going to be long but I want it to be because it is the exact reason for why you think Trump hasn't done anything. Media ... | I wholeheartedly disagree. To quote Jack Nicholson from Batman, "this whole town needs an enema."
As an African American he has brought to light what a great majority of us have always known. That there is a whole lot of racism. This is the bedrock of this nation and a great many of its white citizens. It has brought ... | iq41dt | CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president. | I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believe he has done nothing, while conservatives will tout his unlimited success. I must be missing it, because ... | 1,599,747,097 | farm_sauce | g4pgy6y | g4peulu | 295 | 11 |
CMV: Men should be allowed to get "financial abortions" if they get a woman pregnant and they don't want to support the child.
First off, I'll preface this by saying that I am VERY pro\-choice, in that I am totally okay with allowing a woman to have body autonomy and have full freedom to choose to terminate her pregna... | Would financial abortion be "opt\-in" or "opt\-out"? What's the time window for making a decision? etc, etc.
For policies like these, the devil is in the details. | If she's the one who *wants* the child, and the one with the option of bringing it into this world or not, then she's the only one who should be responsible for that decision and that child. | 8o9jje | CMV: Men should be allowed to get "financial abortions" if they get a woman pregnant and they don't want to support the child. | First off, I'll preface this by saying that I am VERY pro\-choice, in that I am totally okay with allowing a woman to have body autonomy and have full freedom to choose to terminate her pregnancy if she wants.
However, realistically, it is incredibly naive to believe that all abortions are because of issues of bodily ... | 1,528,042,261 | Justgoahead123 | e01q3l6 | e01p7vb | 1 | -1 |
CMV: The idea of pets being considered property really bugs me
Legally speaking, pets are considered property in many cases. When I browse subs like /r/legaladvice and someone makes a post about their pet being killed, there's usually a reply along the lines of "since pets are legally considered property, you can get ... | !delta
That's a fair point, I wasn't considering the extra legal protections they do get afforded. This does make a good middle ground. It was just mostly disliking the word property being used, as it brings to mind inanimate possessions rather than living beings. | At what point is a pet no longer property?
In many places, pets are basically equipment. Dogs chase animals and alert owners. Cats keep rodents out. Cows produce milk and meat. Horses are transportation.
If you replace your horse for a car - is your car a piece of property or a "pet"? Well, that kind of blurs the li... | 6q7ai3 | CMV: The idea of pets being considered property really bugs me | Legally speaking, pets are considered property in many cases. When I browse subs like /r/legaladvice and someone makes a post about their pet being killed, there's usually a reply along the lines of "since pets are legally considered property, you can get a few hundred from the perpetrator to replace the pet." I consid... | 1,501,281,214 | ChronaMewX | dkv4e3i | dkv3z5w | 5 | 1 |
CMV: The free will vs determinism argument is ridiculous
People possess physical limitations, can be victims of circumstance or lack of knowledge, and we have a lot of automatic processes including reflexes and other physiological processes (including aging). But that doesn’t mean we can’t make choices when provided c... | The way I see it and how I think it works is that if you look at the human brain through a biological/laws of physics lens then ultimately everything we do must be deterministic. I came across this opinion of myself when arguing with a friend about the following scenario: If we could create a perfect copy of someone, i... | I am someone who agrees that it is best to promote the idea that we have free will and that we don't have to be a victim of our circumstances, however, there is a purpose to questioning this.
Even in the hypothetical scenario we were able to change the entire narrative around people who wield lower opportunity and low... | 10tms1f | CMV: The free will vs determinism argument is ridiculous | People possess physical limitations, can be victims of circumstance or lack of knowledge, and we have a lot of automatic processes including reflexes and other physiological processes (including aging). But that doesn’t mean we can’t make choices when provided choices.
Even if free will can be an illusion in some sce... | 1,675,533,688 | tired_tamale | j77ttj5 | j77mnsu | 5 | 4 |
CMV: There is no specific food item that cannot be paired with some form of cheese.
I believe there is no food that you couldn't pair some form of cheese with. This includes every type of cheese from the incredibly light fromage blanc to stronger cheeses such as blue.
People often say sweet foods like candy however t... | A few things that come to the top of my mind that would be gross with cheese
* Sour Patch Kids
* Peanut Butter
* Banana
* Coconut Milk | Any food being eaten by someone with a severe dairy allergy. | gacus9 | CMV: There is no specific food item that cannot be paired with some form of cheese. | I believe there is no food that you couldn't pair some form of cheese with. This includes every type of cheese from the incredibly light fromage blanc to stronger cheeses such as blue.
People often say sweet foods like candy however they can be incorporated into cheesecakes. Also many people believe fish and cheese sh... | 1,588,178,640 | condor789 | foyu671 | foyu2h6 | 62 | 11 |
CMV: Pedophilia is a sexuality in its own right. But there is no social solution to that problem
The actions of pedophiles seem to mirror the actions of gay people before it was culturally/legally accepted that they were gay. For instance: despite tremendous public backlash in the event of their discovery they persist... | We haven’t studied the causes of pedophilia very much, and not nearly as much as homosexuality, and even that’s basically still in the early phases or study as far as such things are concerned.
That being said, in cases of pedophilia, there is a pretty high instance of comorbidity with other psychiatric disorders that... | > Children cannot give knowing consent so such activity must be regarded as rape.
I think this is the most important part of your entire view. Social conventions be damned, there is no escaping the violation of moral reasoning and consistency applied to the issue of pedophilia.
Homosexuality was only ever "wrong" in... | 86cjas | CMV: Pedophilia is a sexuality in its own right. But there is no social solution to that problem | The actions of pedophiles seem to mirror the actions of gay people before it was culturally/legally accepted that they were gay. For instance: despite tremendous public backlash in the event of their discovery they persist in subversive behavior. Why would anyone choose to be a pedophile if they knew it would literally... | 1,521,733,977 | Ambeam | dw40izd | dw3zrtc | 98 | 12 |
CMV: Some groups/cultures/values must necessarily be sacrificed to improve the human condition.
Warning: lots of run-on sentences and opinions being stated as fact. Lots of assumptions too. I'm ready to be called out on those things.
Values and the concepts of morality and ethics are informed upon by environmental f... | You acknowledge that your view is unworkable in practice; I would argue that it's unworkable in *theory* as well.
> Lets assume researchers would be capable of designing a society that takes full advantage of our value system the way a chef takes advantage of our drive for food. Since hose values have power over how w... | First, how do you know that new values can be invented? There's an argument C. S. Lewis liked to make about this general idea, that any time anyone said that they had invented a new moral value system, it always turned out to be a single old value elevated to supremacy over all the others.
Second, if you could inve... | 7968jl | CMV: Some groups/cultures/values must necessarily be sacrificed to improve the human condition. | Warning: lots of run-on sentences and opinions being stated as fact. Lots of assumptions too. I'm ready to be called out on those things.
Values and the concepts of morality and ethics are informed upon by environmental factors during childhood. Usually a person adopts the values of their peers and roll models (note ... | 1,509,140,201 | in15seconds | dozoppw | dozn524 | 4 | 1 |
CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them.
I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the q... | Assuming there is one, all-powerful god, the most common justification I hear for this revolves around free will. In this view, free will is considered the highest gift. But for free will to exist, it must be possible to make wrong choices. God, in most views, is benevolent, and so he teaches us and rewards us in the a... | I strongly suggest taking a look at Permission to Believe and Permission to Receive by Lawrence Kelemen. He breaks everything down with a very rational approach to the topic.
A short excerpt from Permission to Receive (his second book)
> If a good God really spoke with man, and if God wants reasonable people to pay a... | 793e9q | CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them. | I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the questions I have as I lessen my belief in Hinduism. Hinduism being a henotheistic religion has the concept of a supreme God. If this world was essentially created by the Supreme God, he would have to purposefully create it too possess material w... | 1,509,112,681 | memeyar | doz4jez | doyxxnn | 2 | 1 |
CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it.
So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which ... | Other people have focused urge question of whether the LDS church is a cult, and I'm not going to go into that. What I want to know is: what would you do to get them to leave, and how likely do you think it is that you'd be successful? | I wasn't aware of that aspect of the LDS...such a bummer. Mixing money with standard church practices probably has a higher predictive value of "cult activity" than predatory sexual ones--why, religion, why?? | 7sq88h | CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it. | So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which is because I'm gay) but most of my family remains in the church. Information I've learned since indic... | 1,516,826,784 | CoyotePatronus | dt8axjc | dt6xn0u | 1 | 0 |
CMV: You shouldn't date someone who you knew while they were a child and you were an adult even if they're an adult now
Sorry for the lengthy title but I believe it's incredibly creepy to date someone when you knew them as a child. Example: lived near them or taught them when they were a child and you were, say, 20s o... | This "lingering perception of the child" is only relevant if you were attracted to them as a child and that is feeding into your attraction to them as an adult.
If you weren't attracted to them as a child but are as an adult, there is nothing wrong and your reaction of being "creeped out" is irrational and unjustifie... | So you should only date a person who was born on the exact same day as you? Because otherwise one parther was an adult while another party was a child. | 6q7q9p | CMV: You shouldn't date someone who you knew while they were a child and you were an adult even if they're an adult now | Sorry for the lengthy title but I believe it's incredibly creepy to date someone when you knew them as a child. Example: lived near them or taught them when they were a child and you were, say, 20s or older, then you decide to date them when they're 18 or older.
To be perfectly candid, this came up when my friend and ... | 1,501,286,080 | SunQuest | dkv9xqa | dkv9xjy | 17 | 2 |
CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them.
I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the q... | The doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) on this subject might be interesting for you to study.
Here's my version of a quick overview: God creates immortal intelligences, and He wants to give them the same powers of creation that He enjoys. First, He wants to ensure they will use t... | You are essentially asking how to make sense of a human-created system, the purpose of which is the control and subjugation of people. There is no coherence to such a system, such that your question can be answered or "refuted". For example, in an evangelical prosperity Christian system, "god" does not want you to... | 793e9q | CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them. | I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the questions I have as I lessen my belief in Hinduism. Hinduism being a henotheistic religion has the concept of a supreme God. If this world was essentially created by the Supreme God, he would have to purposefully create it too possess material w... | 1,509,112,681 | memeyar | doz6nmk | doyxpqd | 1 | -4 |
CMV: The state should not be able to control the market / Socialism proposes a bad economic system
I am not a big fan of socialist economies. Its ideas are propagandized in a very grandiouse way, by blaming wealth inequality for the problems of the poor and by presenting wage earners as slaves. But the solution they... |
>I am not a big fan of socialist economies. Its ideas are propagandized in a very grandiouse way, by blaming wealth inequality for the problems of the poor and by presenting wage earners as slaves.
Well, okay. In the us, around 40% of men born in the bottom fifth of income stay in it for their lives, and around 60... | You're going to have to be more specific. All you have here are instincts without any substance. You haven't told us what you mean by socialism, what you mean by free markets, and what you mean by a good/bad economic system. Every country on the planet is socialist in some respect, be it their military, their police, t... | 8o6jwr | CMV: The state should not be able to control the market / Socialism proposes a bad economic system | I am not a big fan of socialist economies. Its ideas are propagandized in a very grandiouse way, by blaming wealth inequality for the problems of the poor and by presenting wage earners as slaves. But the solution they put on the table is to get the state to directly shape the market in order to produce proper result... | 1,528,003,981 | WhaleConductor | e016jsw | e014czn | 11 | 5 |
CMV: The state should not be able to control the market / Socialism proposes a bad economic system
I am not a big fan of socialist economies. Its ideas are propagandized in a very grandiouse way, by blaming wealth inequality for the problems of the poor and by presenting wage earners as slaves. But the solution they... | The free market, in general, is the most efficient economic system in theory. There are certain areas where the free market is not the most efficient way to determine how resources (which are scarce) are allocated and distributed. These include situations where demand is inelastic, there are positive or negative extern... | Aw hey it looks like you didn't read that article or understand it at all or look at the author's body of work.
40% of men staying in the bottom fifth for their lives would mean 'more than half' do not. Yes, 73% of Americans will spend some amount of time in the top 20%... Thats consistent with only 8% of people born... | 8o6jwr | CMV: The state should not be able to control the market / Socialism proposes a bad economic system | I am not a big fan of socialist economies. Its ideas are propagandized in a very grandiouse way, by blaming wealth inequality for the problems of the poor and by presenting wage earners as slaves. But the solution they put on the table is to get the state to directly shape the market in order to produce proper result... | 1,528,003,981 | WhaleConductor | e01w0ih | e01urnx | 2 | 1 |
CMV: plastic surgery is largely unnecessary and people need therapy more than plastic surgery
Excluding outlier cases such as deformities or deformities caused by accidents, or anything pertaining to health. I think plastic surgery has a place of usefulness.
I am talking about the casual pursuit of more and more plas... | Counter argument:
The most important characteristic that you get judged by in life is how physically attractive you are. You may argue this is not true or that something has higher priority but this is largely true. To become substantially more attractive than you used to be substantially benefits your own life in ve... | Given that in the current world we live in, everyone around are affected by the same social norms and fairly similar beauty ideals, I don't think it's necessarily a matter of being OK with yourself, as much as you want others to be OK with you. Self acceptance could only get you so far. At least some of the time.
Thi... | 19apxuf | CMV: plastic surgery is largely unnecessary and people need therapy more than plastic surgery | Excluding outlier cases such as deformities or deformities caused by accidents, or anything pertaining to health. I think plastic surgery has a place of usefulness.
I am talking about the casual pursuit of more and more plastic surgery + fillers + Botox - particularly in young people who spend a lot of time on social ... | 1,705,688,823 | FrustratedFern | kinnp6m | kinbbxn | 149 | 2 |
CMV: Men should be allowed to get "financial abortions" if they get a woman pregnant and they don't want to support the child.
First off, I'll preface this by saying that I am VERY pro\-choice, in that I am totally okay with allowing a woman to have body autonomy and have full freedom to choose to terminate her pregna... | How about there is nothing fair between men and women. On this specific matter, while both parties enjoy sex, only women are subject to risks of getting pregnant. Both pills and condoms can fail. In the case of unwanted pregnancies, it can be no one’a fault, yet only women suffers the consequences. Both abortion and ch... | Read the following quote, by you, literally four posts above this.
> No, but there are a **lot of woman** who want to get knocked up by a rich guy so that they can be financially tied to his estate.
Your argument here is that 'we need this system to protect rich guys from evil golddigging women!', and I'm just gonna... | 8o9jje | CMV: Men should be allowed to get "financial abortions" if they get a woman pregnant and they don't want to support the child. | First off, I'll preface this by saying that I am VERY pro\-choice, in that I am totally okay with allowing a woman to have body autonomy and have full freedom to choose to terminate her pregnancy if she wants.
However, realistically, it is incredibly naive to believe that all abortions are because of issues of bodily ... | 1,528,042,261 | Justgoahead123 | e025h46 | e01twoy | 12 | 3 |
CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen
For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
* T... | A few technical points, and then a major non-technical point.
1. [technical] The 2024 election certification will be done by the Congress elected in the 2024 elections, not the midterms. The Electoral Count Act specifies that the counting of electors takes place on Jan 6, and the Constitution in the 20th Amendment s... | Trump is old and in poor health. Many of his support base is susceptible to COVID-19, and 2024 means the virus will have had several more years to mutate into something more deadly.
There's an outside chance that either Trump, Giuliani, and others may be dead by 2024 due to either natural causes or COVID. Same goes fo... | q5w70c | CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen | For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
* Trump runs again, wins the nomination, and loses, but pretends ... | 1,633,959,942 | JosGibbons | hg8dd7r | hg89eri | 4 | 0 |
CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen
For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
* T... | >Many of the states that go to the Democratic nominee will by then (i) have laws postdating 2020 giving Republican politicians, not non-partisans, control over certification, and (ii) have people in those roles willing to subvert democracy by just pretending their states' results are fraudulent. Trump will have worked ... | Trump is old and in poor health. Many of his support base is susceptible to COVID-19, and 2024 means the virus will have had several more years to mutate into something more deadly.
There's an outside chance that either Trump, Giuliani, and others may be dead by 2024 due to either natural causes or COVID. Same goes fo... | q5w70c | CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen | For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
* Trump runs again, wins the nomination, and loses, but pretends ... | 1,633,959,942 | JosGibbons | hg8b2uv | hg89eri | 9 | 0 |
CMV: Pro-plant people's attempts to end meat will ultimately fail.
Yes, show me the nth article, paper, or journal, that talks about how harmful meat is to the environment, or how it is resource or land inefficient compared to plant, or how we livestock uses as high as 80% of water, feed, and land used for food.
N... | people in here don't seem to understand that eating meat is literally part of our nature and can't be as easily changed like societal structures | Never said you do need meat to survive, however billions of people love meat and its still food. Food is food, you need food to survive, and billions of people love meat and eat it. | 19ad82f | CMV: Pro-plant people's attempts to end meat will ultimately fail. | Yes, show me the nth article, paper, or journal, that talks about how harmful meat is to the environment, or how it is resource or land inefficient compared to plant, or how we livestock uses as high as 80% of water, feed, and land used for food.
None of matters, and I think that it will end in failure. I say becau... | 1,705,647,979 | Reddit-Arrien | kik90bh | kik7ec4 | -2 | -11 |
CMV: people who worry about the cleanliness of a bar of soap are misunderstanding (or ignoring) how soap works
I've heard people talk about how they always wash their butts hole last, and that it's gross to wash in any different order. Or that it's gross to use another person's bar of soap. I've also heard the claim (... | > don't use a washcloth/loofah so this post is entirely focused on the bar of soap itself.
it's the same thing with your hands. if you wash your ass with your hands, you're going to be getting some bacteria on them. | Bars of soap, in fact, can carry germs:
>The shocking answer is yes. Bacteria grow inside the goo created when the bar soap contacts water for some time. The wetness of the water allows microbiological growth, while skin cells that remain on the bar soap can be used as a food source for some pathogens.
Even on the su... | 19a06go | CMV: people who worry about the cleanliness of a bar of soap are misunderstanding (or ignoring) how soap works | I've heard people talk about how they always wash their butts hole last, and that it's gross to wash in any different order. Or that it's gross to use another person's bar of soap. I've also heard the claim (from somebody who has been in prison) that any bar of soap that has touched the floor in prison would be discard... | 1,705,610,368 | AssaultedCracker | kii70vm | kihm7pm | 3 | 1 |
CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it.
So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which ... | As per usual with blanket statements, 'everything in my power' is too strong a statement and includes options that make your stated view technically incorrect.
For instance, you could kill them, at which point they would no longer be a part of the cult. Or you could drug them all at dinner, load them into a van and d... | I've lived in Utah and am friends with ex-Mormons, jack Mormons, and very strict Mormons. I've hung out with all of these groups together. Mormons with Temple Recommends and marriages, non-Temple eligible Mormons, etc... In my personal experience, nobody seems to have any issues with each other or with me/other non-aff... | 7sq88h | CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it. | So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which is because I'm gay) but most of my family remains in the church. Information I've learned since indic... | 1,516,826,784 | CoyotePatronus | dt6tvuu | dt6r9x7 | 36 | 10 |
CMV: It’s wrong of businesses to ask me to tip for counter service
I’ll start by saying that I think tipping culture as a whole in the US sucks. Employee wages should not be subsidized with tips, employees should just but paid fair wages to begin with.
I’ve noticed this trend over the last few years where food shops... | You are aware that you can not leave a tip, right?
If you don't tip for table service, people will think you're an asshole, because you are.
If you don't tip for counter service, then literally nobody will care. As far as I'm aware (and tbf I could be wrong here), people who work the register are paid a full hourly ... | I would say that it IS wrong for companies to exploit social inclinations to subsidize pay in this way. Tipping has been shown repeatedly to be at best very loosely correlated to quality of service and much more prone to be based on things like gender and race. It is perfectly legal now, and I agree that companies th... | mtz0zb | CMV: It’s wrong of businesses to ask me to tip for counter service | I’ll start by saying that I think tipping culture as a whole in the US sucks. Employee wages should not be subsidized with tips, employees should just but paid fair wages to begin with.
I’ve noticed this trend over the last few years where food shops that only offer counter service have been asking for tips. Places l... | 1,618,833,563 | jdbuck99 | gv334o2 | gv2wogs | 42 | 2 |
CMV: Most of the time, it's ineffective to attack the premises of someone's argument, rather than the argument itself.
Trying not to get this flagged as meta...
I have a master's degree in philosophy, and one of the things I struggled with most was separating the premises of someone's argument from the actual argumen... | Depends on what the premise is.
“I am able to objectively prove the quality & value of art, and by doing so I can confidently say that the Mona Lisa is the best work of art ever created”.
That’s a shit premise, so the rest is just fruit of the poison tree. | Your view is stated that "Most of the time, its ineffective to attack the premise".
Do you have any data to back that up? Because when you say "I really enjoy this sub and look forward to hearing some cases where the premises should be challenged.", that doesn't challenge the idea that most of time you shouldn't att... | 19am96e | CMV: Most of the time, it's ineffective to attack the premises of someone's argument, rather than the argument itself. | Trying not to get this flagged as meta...
I have a master's degree in philosophy, and one of the things I struggled with most was separating the premises of someone's argument from the actual argument itself. Some folks who had studied logic as early as elementary school didn't have this same struggle, but it was some... | 1,705,679,760 | 9to5Academia | kilqlgj | kilqeb7 | 183 | 7 |
CMV: It's not wrong for white people to wear braids. They, as any other person, should be free to choose any hair style they want.
I've seen friends posting angry rants like "Do y’all understand it’s not simply 'another style' to add to your roster?" But why not? Do we really want to have rules about which race is all... | I think the issue however, is when for example, black people do a particular hairstyle that is historically, and culturally associated with black people and "blackness", they are often vilified for it, as "blackness" often caries with it a "black tax" in the eyes of society... i.e. a black person is more likely to be s... | People have different opinions but one pretty strong sentiment is that, when black people were taken as slaves, they were taken from various tribes. They were forced to erase their former identities, their culture and their past. Slaves were forced to practice their own religion, express any of their cultures or tradit... | 8o97lk | CMV: It's not wrong for white people to wear braids. They, as any other person, should be free to choose any hair style they want. | I've seen friends posting angry rants like "Do y’all understand it’s not simply 'another style' to add to your roster?" But why not? Do we really want to have rules about which race is allowed to wear their hair in what ways? And who makes up theses rules? Sure, one can argue about bad taste. To wear a garment associat... | 1,528,039,637 | bull_bear | e01mm6s | e01lv2g | 671 | 39 |
CMV: The United States are not that great.
So, first of all let me establish my case:
I have been fed this idea that the United States are the greatest country in the world, by far, for as long as I can remember (I'm not American, btw). That it is the land of opportunity, where everyone has a chance and no one is eve... | Okay, I wanna chime in here because I'm kind of a europhile personally (I adore Sweden and Germany and Austria and would love to live in Europe for a time). I agree that America is hardly perfect, and in fact our problems are very large. Some of this is due to our culture, some of this is due to our history, some of th... | >Historically, indices have analysed social mobility across generations by comparing earnings of children with those of their parents. ... The problem with these approaches is that they capture the effect of measures that were taken 30-40 years ago.
If social mobility is inter generational change, how are they measur... | ga8l3j | CMV: The United States are not that great. | So, first of all let me establish my case:
I have been fed this idea that the United States are the greatest country in the world, by far, for as long as I can remember (I'm not American, btw). That it is the land of opportunity, where everyone has a chance and no one is ever left behind. I firmly disagree.
For me, t... | 1,588,163,576 | HenFar | foyrn0q | foyp5qz | 3 | 1 |
CMV: People worldwide would be happy if Russia will turn into North Korea
I already saw comments in news regarding to Finland's closing borders with Russia. People said that russians should'nt leave their homeland and instead go to protest. If they will no overthrow Putin, thej this means they deserve to suffer under... | From the geopolitics perspective, there are quite a few implications of Russia turning into North Korea that would be incredibly destabilizing for the world, and I doubt anyone wants that. Imagine Russia occasionally launching missiles over Europe. Imagine the largest nuclear arsenal in the world having such limited di... | And you are not being judged. You are "being cared for a sheltered and given what they need" like I said earlier.
I pointed out that the russians people are angry at online is the russians that come with their defeatist mindset of "nothing is possible, we can't change anything" while at the same time saying they are ... | 10tkbxv | CMV: People worldwide would be happy if Russia will turn into North Korea | I already saw comments in news regarding to Finland's closing borders with Russia. People said that russians should'nt leave their homeland and instead go to protest. If they will no overthrow Putin, thej this means they deserve to suffer under his dictatorship. I may understand their motives, but it's impossible to m... | 1,675,527,786 | Hironai99 | j788eyp | j786wr8 | 4 | 1 |
CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them.
I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the q... | This is a really profound question that I'm barely competent to answer.
As a disclaimer, I'm a Christian who is big into science, so some of my ideas are a little of the beaten path.
It seems the question is really about free will, and what's the point of existence?
The way I see it, God could make robots, but then... | I strongly suggest taking a look at Permission to Believe and Permission to Receive by Lawrence Kelemen. He breaks everything down with a very rational approach to the topic.
A short excerpt from Permission to Receive (his second book)
> If a good God really spoke with man, and if God wants reasonable people to pay a... | 793e9q | CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them. | I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the questions I have as I lessen my belief in Hinduism. Hinduism being a henotheistic religion has the concept of a supreme God. If this world was essentially created by the Supreme God, he would have to purposefully create it too possess material w... | 1,509,112,681 | memeyar | doz26bm | doyxxnn | 2 | 1 |
CMV: If whatever makes your character different (sexual identity/disability etc) is your main selling point, your book is probably boring.
Before I begin, I want to make it clear that I'm not talking about race. Some may think race should be included in this, but I don't. I'm not sure why, maybe because the stories I'... | I completely disagree. High concepts are interesting. And sometimes, high concept is related to characters. For example, let's take Harry Potter, a fan-fic that ask the question: what if HP is very smart (HPMOR), or a Slytherin, or a Ravenclaw, or a Hufflepuff, or a Goblin, a vampire, a hag, a giant, a house-elve, a ve... | Comedy sometimes uses that sort of guns-a-blazing characterization to great success. Often because it’s intended to make you think it’s just using some stereotype, but really the character has a lot more depth and is designed to make you check your own assumptions. Basically everything in writing you shouldn’t do, has... | mu84wm | CMV: If whatever makes your character different (sexual identity/disability etc) is your main selling point, your book is probably boring. | Before I begin, I want to make it clear that I'm not talking about race. Some may think race should be included in this, but I don't. I'm not sure why, maybe because the stories I've read (featuring black or black-coded characters) have in some way centred around race and so it adds to the story. I guess as a white per... | 1,618,859,725 | doriangraiy | gv4cwnf | gv4al0h | 43 | 2 |
CMV: Giving your child a name that people are never going to spell/pronounce correctly is selfish and foolish
I'm not talking about when you have an authentic name from a foreign culture you belong to while living in another country, I'm talking about when parents take regular names and spell them "uniquely" or just g... | Leave given names to the side for a second and consider this.
Some people like unique things, other people like "normal" things. Some people like to be/act/look unique, while other people like to fit in/not stand out. To some people, having a unique/made up/strange name would be fun and for others it would be a drag.
... | Perhaps from now on there should be no naming differences and all people should be called "Hey, You" or some other generic thing. If there is no differentiation between peoples names then people are likely to mistake one person for another. Perhaps for you it is a hassle but for everyone else you are the person with th... | 5s30ws | CMV: Giving your child a name that people are never going to spell/pronounce correctly is selfish and foolish | I'm not talking about when you have an authentic name from a foreign culture you belong to while living in another country, I'm talking about when parents take regular names and spell them "uniquely" or just give them a name that is generally more difficult for people to pronounce. I may just be a little biased on this... | 1,486,241,565 | AMO14 | ddcl7uo | ddckgxw | 301 | 1 |
CMV: There is no reason to believe (a) god exists
TLDR; I am looking for solid, logically sound apologia
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Clarification:
I am not saying there is solid reason to firmly deny the existence of any godlike beings. However, so far, I have come to believe that there isn't an argum... | You are not considering the possibility that there are reasons to believe in God(s) that don't have anything to do with the likelihood that a divine being exists in any tangible sense. Believing in God offers many personal and societal benefits.
Most obviously, believers gain access to a social network. This has both... | Well naturally you'd assume the watch was made by another person. But do you really think the earth was made by another person? Earlier you mentioned that you'd assume a watch to be made because you can compare it to other things that were made. I think that you should assume the earth was also created because there is... | b344wt | CMV: There is no reason to believe (a) god exists |
TLDR; I am looking for solid, logically sound apologia
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Clarification:
I am not saying there is solid reason to firmly deny the existence of any godlike beings. However, so far, I have come to believe that there isn't an argument beyond personal feelings that justifies the exi... | 1,553,035,775 | ChalkyChalkson | eix6gy8 | eix2z7q | 1 | 0 |
CMV: When participating in multiplayer video games as a member of a team, you should feel a responsibility to adapt to the needs of your team.
It is often, if not always, the case that cooperative multiplayer games are designed such that a team flourishes best when its players work cooperatively towards a common goal.... | Ah, something I know a little bit about! What you're talking about is the game theoretical "[Coordination Game](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordination_game)." (Or at least I think this is the best game to describe our situation)
Basically, if my overall goal coincides with my teammate's overall goal, which it shou... | As a practical problem, take any MOBA with lanes for example. You lock mid because you play >mid best, and you believe that that gives the team its best chance of winning. The next player is also excellent at mid and average at all other roles.
>The value judgement that I purport should run through that player's head ... | 791u1g | CMV: When participating in multiplayer video games as a member of a team, you should feel a responsibility to adapt to the needs of your team. | It is often, if not always, the case that cooperative multiplayer games are designed such that a team flourishes best when its players work cooperatively towards a common goal. This is demonstrated in many different domains. A team of soccer players needs to work in conjunction to defend and score. A raiding guild in W... | 1,509,090,663 | clarinetEX | doz4aht | doz0fj7 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: it's rational to not eagerly jump on a 49$ sale of a 50,000$ tractor
economics book gives the following example: you can save 10% on a 100$ phone by driving an hour further to get the deal. Would you do the same to save 10$ on a 2000$ TV? if not, you're irrational because, in either case, you're traveling 1 hour ... | You're acting as if the total percentage of the cost is relevant. Why though? Either way you'd have $49 more in your bank account than you would have otherwise. And that $49 will spend just as well.
You're falling into the fallacy. "The price has hardly changed." But that's not what actually matters, what actually mat... | You're considering potential, not actual savings. The potential to save more in a sale that could possibly happen in the future is greater on the tractor.
Discounting any future sale, you will be money ahead to make the purchase now. Within the constraints of the situation posed, the sales are actually equal.
It is... | 10tk5b6 | CMV: it's rational to not eagerly jump on a 49$ sale of a 50,000$ tractor | economics book gives the following example: you can save 10% on a 100$ phone by driving an hour further to get the deal. Would you do the same to save 10$ on a 2000$ TV? if not, you're irrational because, in either case, you're traveling 1 hour for 10$. percentage doesn't matter, only total cost.
So here's my challeng... | 1,675,527,313 | Farbio708 | j775kgh | j7757fm | 196 | 4 |
CMV: There is no point in being proud of your sexuality or race. Gay pride or black pride are something you’re born as. It took you no effort to be the way you are. So there’s no point in being proud.
Basically I don’t think there’s any point in being proud of your sexuality or race. It took no effort to be who you na... | > What we’re seeing more now, is intolerance towards straight and white people. Like when Leslie Jones tweeted that “white people shit”, or an entire tv show discriminating against white people (Dear White People). Or when buzzfeed write an article calling for us to “ban straight people”.
Did you not read the start of... | Being proud of how you are asserts superiority over inferior beings. Basic herd animal dynamics 101. | 8o7qus | CMV: There is no point in being proud of your sexuality or race. Gay pride or black pride are something you’re born as. It took you no effort to be the way you are. So there’s no point in being proud. | Basically I don’t think there’s any point in being proud of your sexuality or race. It took no effort to be who you naturally are. It’s not an accomplishment, hence no need to be proud. This also applies to the whole fat pride stuff. I shouldn’t be proud of giving in and just eating a bunch of shitty food and becoming ... | 1,528,022,255 | HurricaneSYG | e01citi | e01anhx | -1 | -7 |
CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it.
So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which ... | I was raised Mormon and when I left the church I felt strongly that I had a responsibility to share my newfound knowledge with my family. I applied the harm principle in respect to not allowing my family to participate in practices that cause harm through affiliation with the church. The most obvious example was the ... | for what it's worth, i've heard him speaking of lds as being a cult as well- but he talks about most religion this way, since he's become a pretty hardcore atheist in the wake of leaving the church.
he still has fairly good relations with his family though, and makes an effort to attend family gatherings both because... | 7sq88h | CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it. | So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which is because I'm gay) but most of my family remains in the church. Information I've learned since indic... | 1,516,826,784 | CoyotePatronus | dt7bhfr | dt704i5 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: it's rational to not eagerly jump on a 49$ sale of a 50,000$ tractor
economics book gives the following example: you can save 10% on a 100$ phone by driving an hour further to get the deal. Would you do the same to save 10$ on a 2000$ TV? if not, you're irrational because, in either case, you're traveling 1 hour ... | I think the problem is you're changing a lot more than you intend to in your example. In both cases, you add the caveat "you're planning on getting it but there's no urgency". But this really doesn't capture the actual differences between buying a hat and a tractor. You can't just swing by and get a tractor and stash i... | >You want to buy a tractor. It's 50000$. You're planning on getting it, but there's no urgency. You're at home and get a notification that the tractor is on sale for 49,951$. Do you drive 5 minutes up to the store to get it? Probably not.
I don't understand. If I have the option to spend $50000 or $49951, and the latt... | 10tk5b6 | CMV: it's rational to not eagerly jump on a 49$ sale of a 50,000$ tractor | economics book gives the following example: you can save 10% on a 100$ phone by driving an hour further to get the deal. Would you do the same to save 10$ on a 2000$ TV? if not, you're irrational because, in either case, you're traveling 1 hour for 10$. percentage doesn't matter, only total cost.
So here's my challeng... | 1,675,527,313 | Farbio708 | j77eleb | j77cw3c | 79 | 37 |
CMV: A life sentence in prison is no different than the death penalty.
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So, I always hear people talking about how the death penalty is inhumane, and how it's disgusting and barbaric. But how is a life sentence any different? It's literally keeping someone in prison until they die. If anything, it's worse than ... | If you execute someone today and find out they were innocent tomorrow, you cannot un-kill them.
In contrast, someone sentenced to life and exonerated can be released and some restitution paid if there was explicit wrongdoing. It isn't ideal of course, but it can happen.
The death penalty is also far more expensive. T... | Depending on the state, life sentences are still up for parole. There is still a chance to get out. And even if they don't...they're still alive. They can still experience life and better themselves. They can't do that while dead.
>If anything, it's worse than the death penalty, because I don't have to pay for the con... | 7sq1rd | CMV: A life sentence in prison is no different than the death penalty. |
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So, I always hear people talking about how the death penalty is inhumane, and how it's disgusting and barbaric. But how is a life sentence any different? It's literally keeping someone in prison until they die. If anything, it's worse than the death penalty, because I don't have to pay for the continued existen... | 1,516,825,341 | Deadpool27 | dt6mvat | dt6mjj8 | 29 | 1 |
CMV: People concerned about cultural appropriation aren't actually that worried about the "appropriation"part.
Many people say cultural appropriation is wrong because it is disrespectful. The idea seems to be that by "appropriating" things
from other cultures, we are robbing them of their uniqueness and we're treatin... | But isn't that just hammering home the point that it's not the appropriation itself that's the issue, but the offence people feel as a result? I'm sure a lot of Odin-worshipping Norsemen *would* be offended if they still existed.
If the offence is the problem, then surely we can find a way to help people use parts of... | It depends on how you view race/culture and what you believe/want the society’s future perception of culture/race to be.
IMO people that advocate that things can be “culturally appropriated” are making an emotional argument, with the fear of “losing” something from their own culture being the center of the argument.... | 8o8da6 | CMV: People concerned about cultural appropriation aren't actually that worried about the "appropriation"part. | Many people say cultural appropriation is wrong because it is disrespectful. The idea seems to be that by "appropriating" things
from other cultures, we are robbing them of their uniqueness and we're treating their sense of self as a commodity.
I understand and broadly agree with this point of view, but it seems to ... | 1,528,030,829 | acurrantafair | e01fvw7 | e01fs6n | 8 | 1 |
CMV: People concerned about cultural appropriation aren't actually that worried about the "appropriation"part.
Many people say cultural appropriation is wrong because it is disrespectful. The idea seems to be that by "appropriating" things
from other cultures, we are robbing them of their uniqueness and we're treatin... | But isn't that just hammering home the point that it's not the appropriation itself that's the issue, but the offence people feel as a result? I'm sure a lot of Odin-worshipping Norsemen *would* be offended if they still existed.
If the offence is the problem, then surely we can find a way to help people use parts of... | It depends on how you view race/culture and what you believe/want the society’s future perception of culture/race to be.
IMO people that advocate that things can be “culturally appropriated” are making an emotional argument, with the fear of “losing” something from their own culture being the center of the argument.... | 8o8da6 | CMV: People concerned about cultural appropriation aren't actually that worried about the "appropriation"part. | Many people say cultural appropriation is wrong because it is disrespectful. The idea seems to be that by "appropriating" things
from other cultures, we are robbing them of their uniqueness and we're treating their sense of self as a commodity.
I understand and broadly agree with this point of view, but it seems to ... | 1,528,030,829 | acurrantafair | e01fvw7 | e01fs6n | 8 | 1 |
CMV: A life sentence in prison is no different than the death penalty.
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So, I always hear people talking about how the death penalty is inhumane, and how it's disgusting and barbaric. But how is a life sentence any different? It's literally keeping someone in prison until they die. If anything, it's worse than ... | "Only God has the right to kill other people". Holding someone until they die of natural causes allows the state to argue that God killed the prisoner, not them.
Also, the chemical method is far from humane. The practitioners are not Doctors or nurses, and thusly don't actually know what they are doing. There have be... | Depending on the state, life sentences are still up for parole. There is still a chance to get out. And even if they don't...they're still alive. They can still experience life and better themselves. They can't do that while dead.
>If anything, it's worse than the death penalty, because I don't have to pay for the con... | 7sq1rd | CMV: A life sentence in prison is no different than the death penalty. |
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So, I always hear people talking about how the death penalty is inhumane, and how it's disgusting and barbaric. But how is a life sentence any different? It's literally keeping someone in prison until they die. If anything, it's worse than the death penalty, because I don't have to pay for the continued existen... | 1,516,825,341 | Deadpool27 | dt6mr7f | dt6mjj8 | 7 | 1 |
CMV: Josef K from Kafka's 'The Trial' is an incredibly unsympathetic protagonist
I've listened to the audiobook several times now, and I just cannot root for K at all. He comes across as self-centred, arrogant, entitled, and impulsive.
While I am willing to let slide some of his views on women as "products of their ... | Isn't the whole point how he's his own worst enemy and digs his own grave? I haven't read it in a very long time, but I thought it ended by showing what would have happened if he'd taken any agency in his life. And the real problem was the fact that he never did. That's what the "trial" is supposed to represent. You ca... | That’s one mode of reading, but there are others — for a lot of modernists especially, keeping a level of critical distance, even alienation, was really important. I think Kafka was much less interested in creating a comfortable or satisfying world that the reader connects to emotionally than in creating an experience ... | ga7g1g | CMV: Josef K from Kafka's 'The Trial' is an incredibly unsympathetic protagonist | I've listened to the audiobook several times now, and I just cannot root for K at all. He comes across as self-centred, arrogant, entitled, and impulsive.
While I am willing to let slide some of his views on women as "products of their time", he still enters conversations with women pretty much dick-first.
When oth... | 1,588,158,350 | EdominoH | foy308u | foxzgxj | 4 | 1 |
CMV: A Major Reason South Park gets away with mocking LGBT but Chappelle doesn't because Chappelle's black and the backlash against him is rooted in racism
So there's a couple other things at play. Firstly South Park is animated and character driven so it's taken less seriously. Also Chapelle is no fan of the media an... | I don't know if I can speak confidently on the extent to which South Park has "gotten away" with jokes about trans people, but supposing that they are by the metrics you gave, there are many potential, and more plausible reasons than jumping to racism on the part of the offended.
The first is a type of bias; [survivor... | You make a lot of good points regarding a lot of this, but I think you’re making some false equivalencies.
I haven’t seen praise for South Park being blasted out? Do you have any links or articles you specifically mean? I’ll agree that they haven’t been criticized, but I haven’t seen any mainstream sources praising t... | q5ssbo | CMV: A Major Reason South Park gets away with mocking LGBT but Chappelle doesn't because Chappelle's black and the backlash against him is rooted in racism | So there's a couple other things at play. Firstly South Park is animated and character driven so it's taken less seriously. Also Chapelle is no fan of the media and Comedy Central while South Park played ball.
Over the past decade since twitter and increased trans visibility there have been several storylines in SP th... | 1,633,947,522 | StoopSign | hg7qo1o | hg7qkq7 | 5 | 1 |
CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it.
So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which ... | I don’t think it’s possible to see it as not a cult unless you’re within the Mormon church and framework, or have a very narrow definition of cult.
I can say that loving your family is a good reason NOT to impose your views on them. They did do this to you when you were younger and I imagine it didn’t feel very good. ... | I think most religions encourage their people to limit their associations with non-members. Most religions discourage learning about things that could be antithetical to their belief system.
That stuff about Joseph Smith sounds pretty similar to what other religions teach too. Not about him, but just that there's this... | 7sq88h | CMV: The Mormon church is a cult and I should do everything in my power to get my family out of it. | So I really, really don't want to believe this but all the information that I can find indicates quite strongly this is so.
A little background.
I was raised Mormon. I left for varying reasons (not the least of which is because I'm gay) but most of my family remains in the church. Information I've learned since indic... | 1,516,826,784 | CoyotePatronus | dt6tyte | dt6qkwm | 12 | 2 |
CMV: Crimes Against Humanity should be punishable by death.
I’m a mostly anti execution, semi pro-life (undecided about abortion), anti-torture of any kind, kind of person.
My dreams are to work in a humanitarian position abroad and to help protect ethnic groups and religious groups from persecution as well as help t... | There’s a pragmatic argument against imposing harsh penalties on dictators and other leaders who commit serious crimes—denying them a safe exit from power risks prolonging their rule and their crimes. The allies were able to try the Nazis because they were completely and utterly defeated militarily. If a dictator k... | I am against the death penalty for crimes against humanity for a simple reason: **it is too soft on the criminals**.
A person responsible for 6 million deaths should not have the luxury of a quick and simple death. They should be locked up, with what is left of their conscience to slowly devour their sanity.
And befo... | 9477l4 | CMV: Crimes Against Humanity should be punishable by death. | I’m a mostly anti execution, semi pro-life (undecided about abortion), anti-torture of any kind, kind of person.
My dreams are to work in a humanitarian position abroad and to help protect ethnic groups and religious groups from persecution as well as help third world countries improve their standard of living.
I rec... | 1,533,277,501 | TheBigBadBurritos | e3j2hfr | e3izkgg | 4 | 0 |
CMV: Google and EJI's 'Lynching in America' project, there shouldn't be so many dislikes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BWTh4p6QEk
Initially, the video had disabled comments and likes but other videos on it have way more dislikes
Is this not American history, particularly Black American history?
It is gruesome but... | "I don't believe we are free in america" (0:03)
"and whether you were born in 2017 or 1923 you are affected by the environment we have created" (0:21)
"I don't think slavery ended in 1875, I believe it evolved" (0:25)
"thousands of people gathered in courthouses and fields and doing horrific things to people and we hav... | It's interesting that you brought BLM. The problem is that there is too many mixed messages. You may have given an example that is about self empowerment, but I've seen plenty of messages that are overtly racist to white people.
BLM is a good example of this. Being a pretty decentralised movement makes it is rife wit... | 6q2jrk | CMV: Google and EJI's 'Lynching in America' project, there shouldn't be so many dislikes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BWTh4p6QEk | Initially, the video had disabled comments and likes but other videos on it have way more dislikes
Is this not American history, particularly Black American history?
It is gruesome but why do white people feel so threatened by this project?
As a black person I feel this is something that should be noted, these peopl... | 1,501,231,237 | worldexploded | dkuoi7r | dkucfep | 1 | -2 |
CMV: marriage is outdated, and weddings are dumb.
I've been in love twice so far in life, they were both sincere, one completely trumped the other, but both were very real.
I'd never get married, though.
Marriage is bringing the state into your love life, it's weird. There was a time when this made sense, but ev... | Some of the things you've said here aren't specific to marriage, so I'll address those first and move past them quick:
As to marriage being its own industry: So is... everything, it seems, these days. One of the many joys of capitalism. If there is a way for someone to make money off of it, they will do so.
As to ma... | It might be outdated but the state disagrees.
One reason to get married is to make things insanely easier when one of the couple gets sick, is incapacitated, or passes away.
You can write all the wills, medical power of attorneys, etc.you want but handling things for a spouse who has fallen ill versus a partner is a ... | ga8zk6 | CMV: marriage is outdated, and weddings are dumb. | I've been in love twice so far in life, they were both sincere, one completely trumped the other, but both were very real.
I'd never get married, though.
Marriage is bringing the state into your love life, it's weird. There was a time when this made sense, but even so, it really only made sense to people of royal... | 1,588,165,202 | jdidonato1995 | foyfyge | foy6wp4 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships.
As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weeke... | You are correct and incorrect. You are correct in your concerns, you are incorrect in saying it’s abnormal. The reality is all kids during this period have this problem. It’s a societal problem not your kids individual failure | The vast majority of child experiences are online focused these days. If you want to reduce that exposure further, you would have to lead by example. In this I mean spending the same amount of time offline as your child.
Is this something you believe you could lead on? | 19a0ir3 | CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships. | As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weekends outside of school. I worry about the long-term effects on his social and emotional development as a person spending so much time onl... | 1,705,611,196 | blueandyshores | kihomf4 | kiho6ix | 478 | 63 |
CMV: putting /s at the end of relies completely defeats the purpose of being sarcastic
I can’t believe how popular this is, I know it’s not a new thing but it really pisses me off. It’s like saying “thats sarcasm btw” after saying something sarcastic. and before you say “well you can’t convey tone through message” sar... | > sarcasm doesn’t require a sarcastic tone
Yes it does. Words are just words. Sarcasm *is* tone. It is *the way* you say words that makes them sarcastic or serious.
> it’s actually funnier when someone thinks your not being sarcastic
Sarcasm is not about being funny. I see this same idea every time someone posts ab... | > The only reason people but /s is because they are afraid of getting downvoted. Which is so sad tbh. People are afraid of the hive mind d subreddit they are in spam downvoting them because they are too stupid to realize they are being sarcastic without having a fucking /s.
But that does happen. All the time.
> I se... | 10tksct | CMV: putting /s at the end of relies completely defeats the purpose of being sarcastic | I can’t believe how popular this is, I know it’s not a new thing but it really pisses me off. It’s like saying “thats sarcasm btw” after saying something sarcastic. and before you say “well you can’t convey tone through message” sarcasm doesn’t require a sarcastic tone, it’s actually funnier when someone thinks your no... | 1,675,528,952 | LingLingAllDay | j77fmrj | j779uni | 59 | 3 |
CMV: There is no such thing as a "Good Deal" for the UK when it comes to Brexit.
Well i'm writing this looking for some hope more than anything, because the more information comes out about brexit, the more i read about Brexit, the more dismal the future looks.
I'd like to set out a few definitions and caveats first ... | In 2008, the US subprime mortgage market crashed. This triggered a worldwide recession. This was possible because most countries around the world were part of a single interconnected global economy. British banks like Barclays tanked because of something that was happening an ocean away.
The upside to a single economy... | You mention section 2.1 of the Brexit White Paper, what about section 2.3:
Ending the jurisdiction of the Court of Justice of the European Union in the UK
2.3 The Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) is the EU’s ultimate arbiter on matters of EU law. As a supranational court, it aims to provide both consisten... | 6q54vv | CMV: There is no such thing as a "Good Deal" for the UK when it comes to Brexit. | Well i'm writing this looking for some hope more than anything, because the more information comes out about brexit, the more i read about Brexit, the more dismal the future looks.
I'd like to set out a few definitions and caveats first to focus the discussion:
1) "A Good Deal" is a deal *better than we have now*. T... | 1,501,261,169 | devlifedotnet | dkusrru | dkuqdat | 5 | 1 |
CMV: You can't use the argument "it's natural" to argue against vegans/vegetarians and their choices.
So a lot of the time when people are talking about veganism and vegetarianism meat-eaters will often say, "but its natural to eat other animals, survival of the fittest, its our instinct, we've been doing this forever... | Naturally/historically, we are scavenging omnivores. So saying eating meat is natural is not wrong on it's own merit. Saying how we currently consume animal products (from invasive species we bred) is natural is a different thing, but that could be said about anything in our current food structures.
Also, just becaus... | Well then if someone wanted to argue that humans shouldn't have sex, breastfeed in public, they could just use your logic. | 7sqete | CMV: You can't use the argument "it's natural" to argue against vegans/vegetarians and their choices. | So a lot of the time when people are talking about veganism and vegetarianism meat-eaters will often say, "but its natural to eat other animals, survival of the fittest, its our instinct, we've been doing this forever as a species."
My concern is by this logic you must be okay with other instinctual behaviors. One tha... | 1,516,828,128 | jackshazam | dt6pjpj | dt6p812 | 6 | -1 |
CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships.
As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weeke... | >And I'd do more to encourage and allow him and his friends to get together in person more.
And do what? | I think people can have healthy relationships online with friends. Idk your son or really his overall situation so it’s hard to comment on it but there’s defintely positives to having online friends like you can talk about u want and get very little social repercussions because they don’t know your inner circle enough ... | 19a0ir3 | CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships. | As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weekends outside of school. I worry about the long-term effects on his social and emotional development as a person spending so much time onl... | 1,705,611,196 | blueandyshores | kihptbe | kihoo33 | 11 | 4 |
CMV: Abortion is not murder
It's not genocide either. If a person has sex the risk of conceiving a child does not mandate you to having to have a child. Its your body you can't force someone to use your body. You should not be able to connect tubes to me circulating my blood etc to keep you alive for 9 months etc it's... | 18 U.S.C. § 1111 defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being with malice, and divides it into two degrees.
In a strictly technical sense- since abortion is legal, it's not murder by exclusion
[manslaughter ](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/manslaughter) is a good case though
But that then raises the q... | While abortion is ending a life, so is swatting a fly. The thing that matters is if that life was actually of human value, which is dependent on brain activity. Given that the braindead are widely considered to be an empty shell that any human consciousness has left, it's perfectly reasonable to say that a fetus is an... | 19a4hxz | CMV: Abortion is not murder | It's not genocide either. If a person has sex the risk of conceiving a child does not mandate you to having to have a child. Its your body you can't force someone to use your body. You should not be able to connect tubes to me circulating my blood etc to keep you alive for 9 months etc it's monstrous. This also assumes... | 1,705,621,075 | Iwinloser | kiimnsg | kiijs4y | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Keeping fish in glass tanks is selfish, and they really should be kept in ponds or natural environments
Context: I'm a big believe in rescuing animals if you can, but I am in no position to care for most animals right now; especially anyone who would need a constant amount of socialization. My local pet supply st... | Firstly, you're applying the ideas of the stressors of Koi to all fish. That doesn't make sense. Koi are unique animals, as are all animal species.
Secondly, I fail to see what your ambition to "rescue" has to do with any of these fish. Have you encountered stranded goldfish that need to be saved from their circumst... | > I want my view changed so I can move forward with rescuing some unloved fish. But if the whole concept of fish tanks are cruel, then I do not want to engage in harming them.
Without being rescued, what happens to the unloved fish? They die?
Maybe it makes more sense to compare the environment you would provide (a... | 6q4lbh | CMV: Keeping fish in glass tanks is selfish, and they really should be kept in ponds or natural environments | Context: I'm a big believe in rescuing animals if you can, but I am in no position to care for most animals right now; especially anyone who would need a constant amount of socialization. My local pet supply store often has large tanks available on discount, and this has got me looking into fish rescuing, specifically ... | 1,501,256,343 | broccolicat | dkukidp | dkuifp9 | 6 | 2 |
CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships.
As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weeke... | I'm not going to claim that your son's particular social habits are healthy or unhealthy, but I think that focusing on offline vs. online is missing the point, and makes it harder to talk with people about building strong relationships.
When I was in high school, I started communicating with my peers online, and it wa... | \>As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weekends outside of school. I worry about the long-term effects on his social and emotional development as a person spending so much time o... | 19a0ir3 | CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships. | As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weekends outside of school. I worry about the long-term effects on his social and emotional development as a person spending so much time onl... | 1,705,611,196 | blueandyshores | kihrahy | kihq6ii | 48 | 45 |
CMV: Quesadillas are Grilled Cheese Sandwiches
Per the conclusions of the /r/grilledcheese civil war, I am applying this only to cheese quesadillas. Chicken quesadillas, crab and scallop quesadillas, or any other combination that includes other ingredients would be a melt under that definition.
Grilled cheese is mos... | First of all, I wouldn't consider Tortillas to be a kind of bread even if the english wikipedia page names tortillas in the unleavened bread article. I think that is pleb opinion from a foreigner's perspective trying to reduce something foreign to them into something they understand. This is debatable though and I'm no... | The origins and uses of the two are different.
For example, Italian spaghetti and Japanese wheat noodles are technically the same thing based on ingredients but if you advertised "spaghetti pesto" at a restaurant and sent out those floppy, wrinkly noodles associated with Japanese food as spaghetti, you'd be wrong bc y... | ga73jy | CMV: Quesadillas are Grilled Cheese Sandwiches | Per the conclusions of the /r/grilledcheese civil war, I am applying this only to cheese quesadillas. Chicken quesadillas, crab and scallop quesadillas, or any other combination that includes other ingredients would be a melt under that definition.
Grilled cheese is most commonly defined as cheese between two pieces ... | 1,588,156,657 | Crayshack | foxyilv | foxwdg7 | 10 | 3 |
CMV: Brexit will be bad for the NHS, and that's a dealbreaker.
First things first: I am pro-brexit in a lot of areas. I see many problems with the EU, and want to get away from it as soon as possible. I also believe our country's sovereignty is very important, and that a lot of it is taken away from Europe.
That bein... | Hello,
>First things first: I am pro-brexit in a lot of areas.
I'm glad to hear it, as am I.
>There are multiple reasons for this: first of all, staffing. 10% of NHS doctors are from the EU, and 4% of Nurses.
NHS staff are 87.7% British, 5.5% EU27, 4.1% Asian, 1.8% African and 0.8% other. On Doctor... | Not from UK so take it for what you will.
> I see many problems with the EU, and want to get away from it as soon as possible.
But you won't. That's the entire point of the stay camp. You cannot ever, get away from the largest economical force in the area. EVER. I mean, I guess you can do your trading exclusively wit... | 6q05po | CMV: Brexit will be bad for the NHS, and that's a dealbreaker. | First things first: I am pro-brexit in a lot of areas. I see many problems with the EU, and want to get away from it as soon as possible. I also believe our country's sovereignty is very important, and that a lot of it is taken away from Europe.
That being said, I simply cannot be pro-Brexit for one major reason: the ... | 1,501,200,642 | ykeloy | dkuhda7 | dktn0ib | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Key West is the worst of New Orleans mixed with the worst of the Caribbean
I’ve spent a lot of time both in New Orleans and in the Caribbean in my life. I’d always been curious about Key West, since I know a lot of people who’ve been and I’ve never really been sure what to expect about it, though I’m a big fan of... | >Help me find some positives about Key West, a way it’s not just a shitty Wish.com version of New Orleans crossed with the Caribbean, and something to go back for?
So I'm not recommending it as a destination to anyone necessarily, but Key West does have some nice things about it.
* Driving there across all the bridg... | you had me at new orleans | 199ycf2 | CMV: Key West is the worst of New Orleans mixed with the worst of the Caribbean | I’ve spent a lot of time both in New Orleans and in the Caribbean in my life. I’d always been curious about Key West, since I know a lot of people who’ve been and I’ve never really been sure what to expect about it, though I’m a big fan of key lime pie. I recently had the opportunity to spend two nights in Key West, an... | 1,705,605,882 | JonSolo1 | kihhg7w | kih8vap | 22 | -1 |
CMV: Processed foods (chips, soda, alcohol, microwave pizzas etc) should be taxed heavily and the money used to subsidize fruits and veggies (and other healthier foods)
You have the right to eat whatever the hell you want.
Unfortunately, massive corporations put tons of money into marketing and selling you processed ... | This would likely end up being a highly regressive tax. The people who end up buying fast food and TV dinners are often people who are on the lower end of the socio-economic scale. They're people who don't have much money to get any healthier options, or they don't have time to get fresh produce and cook it between t... | Eating healthy is already the cheapest way from a purely financial standpoint. If you include time into the mix, processed foods are quicker but you can still eat them in a healthy way. To lose weight, all it takes is eating less which is quicker and cheaper than eating more. And weight loss is often times the biggest ... | 7snmsg | CMV: Processed foods (chips, soda, alcohol, microwave pizzas etc) should be taxed heavily and the money used to subsidize fruits and veggies (and other healthier foods) | You have the right to eat whatever the hell you want.
Unfortunately, massive corporations put tons of money into marketing and selling you processed food that's specifically designed to keep you addicted to it.
For those unable to control this craving, it can quickly lead to obesity, diminished mental performance (e... | 1,516,806,101 | rmhildebrandt | dt632q0 | dt62kuw | 120 | 33 |
CMV: Funerals are a waste of money that don’t accomplish anything
Basically the way I see it there is nothing that a funeral offers that can justify the money needed to have one. If it is a way to say goodbye, why can’t that be done at the deceased persons grave or urn if they are cremated? Now I will make it clear th... | Focusing more on the money part and not about whether funerals themselves are important:
Many people think that something's value is reflected by how much money is spent on it. To them, having a less expensive/elaborate "ceremony" would decrease it's value.
Weddings, funerals, and many other special occasions are onl... | By default, sure. I've planned my funeral, and let me tell you, it's all about me! Of course, technically, it's about my impact on the living people, but still.
If you plan it in advance you get to leave a piece of information/an experience for the people left living, for example, writing a letter to someone and havin... | 945kai | CMV: Funerals are a waste of money that don’t accomplish anything | Basically the way I see it there is nothing that a funeral offers that can justify the money needed to have one. If it is a way to say goodbye, why can’t that be done at the deceased persons grave or urn if they are cremated? Now I will make it clear that what I am against are funerals in the traditional sense, in a re... | 1,533,262,033 | maxmo5 | e3imwfd | e3imcjh | 144 | 1 |
CMV: simply being intoxicated shouldn’t remove one’s ability to provide consent for sex
My post is inspired by the disgust I felt reading this Atlantic article. Essentially I am in 100% agreement that sex policing on college campuses has gone wild.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/title-ix-is-too... | Legally, which is the only way that practically matters in this debate, "simply being intoxicated" **DOESN'T** remove one's ability to provide consent for sex, so your question is kind of moot. | And if both parties are drunk?
It seems like court of public opinion is far more likely to assume that the guy was the rapist, even if the drunk woman initiated the sexual encounter. | 8o8ro6 | CMV: simply being intoxicated shouldn’t remove one’s ability to provide consent for sex | My post is inspired by the disgust I felt reading this Atlantic article. Essentially I am in 100% agreement that sex policing on college campuses has gone wild.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/title-ix-is-too-easy-to-abuse/561650/
My view applies with following conditions:
1) the drunk person i... | 1,528,035,090 | Emijah1 | e01lbkg | e01kokg | 29 | 4 |
CMV: Funerals are a waste of money that don’t accomplish anything
Basically the way I see it there is nothing that a funeral offers that can justify the money needed to have one. If it is a way to say goodbye, why can’t that be done at the deceased persons grave or urn if they are cremated? Now I will make it clear th... | It's not about the person in the casket, it's about the people who have to deal with the death.
Funerals are a big event full of all ritual. And a good part of it is to say "Yeah, we think this person was pretty good but now they're gone". In a religious funeral, it's also "And I hope they've gone to a better place".... | Your last sentence hit the nail on the head in my opinion. While funerals tend to be very expensive (especially in the USA) it gives the chance for family, friends and loved ones to get together when it may not happen on a 5 year basis. Often times you will hear stories about the recently departed that you’ve never hea... | 945kai | CMV: Funerals are a waste of money that don’t accomplish anything | Basically the way I see it there is nothing that a funeral offers that can justify the money needed to have one. If it is a way to say goodbye, why can’t that be done at the deceased persons grave or urn if they are cremated? Now I will make it clear that what I am against are funerals in the traditional sense, in a re... | 1,533,262,033 | maxmo5 | e3il2w4 | e3iibu3 | 108 | 2 |
CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them.
I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the q... | >That doesn't make him all-powerful, that would make him seem like more of a well-intentioned mentor, and therefore defeat the possibility that he is the creator as then he would not have full control over this universe nor would he have been able to create it.
That’s like saying that a software programmer isn’t the ... | What it we separate "creator" from "god"? What if there is a creator of the earth, and the universe around it, but he just did it because it's a hobby? In his universe, he's just one of millions of schlubs going about his day. He might look "all mighty" from our perspective, and he can create and even control what go... | 793e9q | CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them. | I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the questions I have as I lessen my belief in Hinduism. Hinduism being a henotheistic religion has the concept of a supreme God. If this world was essentially created by the Supreme God, he would have to purposefully create it too possess material w... | 1,509,112,681 | memeyar | doyvtgs | doyubyb | 5 | 1 |
CMV: Using different statistical standards for False Accusations vs Rape accusations creates a misleading narrative.
The numbers we use for false accusations statistics and the numbers we use for rape statistics are predicated on completely different standards of measurement. This is not commonly understood causing pe... | > This doesn't include the false accusations that are never reported,
Well, if you never report an accusation to the authorities, then by definition you haven’t made a false accusation.
How can there be “unreported false accusations”?
By its very nature, the crime includes making a false statement to authorities. | > A 50/50 chance is pretty atrocious.
Can you clarify this one? What are you implying that there is a 50/50 change of, and where does that number come from? | 9436xy | CMV: Using different statistical standards for False Accusations vs Rape accusations creates a misleading narrative. | The numbers we use for false accusations statistics and the numbers we use for rape statistics are predicated on completely different standards of measurement. This is not commonly understood causing people to interpret them on the same scale, leading to false premises and incorrect arguments. The result of this is a f... | 1,533,243,578 | Ralathar44 | e3hy5ok | e3hxszz | 52 | 5 |
CMV: I don’t think a totalitarian regime can be enforced in the United States as it is in this point in time.
It’s a pretty common point of conversation in my social circle (we’re all liberals on the West Coast, but we have pretty diverse views in general). To preface, none of us are arguing that it absolutely cannot ... | I’d argue the internet isn’t educating as you claim. Sure accurate information is there, but so is inaccurate info and it’s only getting worse with AI.
I’d also argue that it’s not just a bunch of rednecks who support trump. My husband works for a local government in an extremely liberal place. Your garbage man, your... | Since I can't top level comment agree with you, I'd say you are right. If you plan on being a dictator the first thing you need to do is undermine the courts, and while some can say Trump did that, the justices Trump appointed are loyal to corporations and various "causes", not Trump himself.
The CIA, NSA, FBI, IRS, a... | 199zdti | CMV: I don’t think a totalitarian regime can be enforced in the United States as it is in this point in time. | It’s a pretty common point of conversation in my social circle (we’re all liberals on the West Coast, but we have pretty diverse views in general). To preface, none of us are arguing that it absolutely cannot happen, but I’m not convinced that it can be enforced. I think that, even if, say, Jan 6 went differently, the ... | 1,705,608,413 | HungHeadsEmptyHearts | kihhwnx | kihhfov | 42 | 1 |
CMV: The modern era is overall the best time to be alive in human history, relatively we are most happy and comfortable than any of our ancestors
Rules first: Don't argue that recent generations had it better, they are still modern era. I am talking about a few centuries ago at least.
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CMV:
Today is the bes... | 1. Yet our technology in many cases divides us and makes people miserable.
2. Most peaceful and most safe aren't necessarily the same. We also only have dubious "measurements" and estimates here due to not having equal access to data on premodern times.
3. Magic that unevenly distributed, and magic that is indiscrimi... | I don't doubt that this is the "best" time to be alive when you consider technology, healthcare, etc, but I wouldn't be so sure about "happiness" and "comfort".
These two things, happiness and comfort, are highly subjective. It means different things to everyone, and everyone has different standards for what makes the... | ga5j00 | CMV: The modern era is overall the best time to be alive in human history, relatively we are most happy and comfortable than any of our ancestors | Rules first: Don't argue that recent generations had it better, they are still modern era. I am talking about a few centuries ago at least.
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CMV:
Today is the best time to be alive in human history. We live better lives than any of our ancestors. In this case "better" means happy and comfortable.
This is b... | 1,588,148,208 | SuperEnthusiastic | foxolfj | foxnfdk | 66 | 8 |
CMV: it's rational to not eagerly jump on a 49$ sale of a 50,000$ tractor
economics book gives the following example: you can save 10% on a 100$ phone by driving an hour further to get the deal. Would you do the same to save 10$ on a 2000$ TV? if not, you're irrational because, in either case, you're traveling 1 hour ... | Imagine you have a shopping list. You MUST buy the 2 items on your list and you must buy them today in order to meet an important deadline.
One item is office paper. There are two stores in town that sell it:
Store A is across the street - sells for $50.
Store B is 10 minute drive - sells for $40.
The second i... | You're really cherry-picking your scenario.
What if I do need the tractor urgently, and it's not going to cost most more than $49 to buy it from the seller that has it for less?
What if we replace $49 with $1,000 and replace "a hat" with a 75" 4k OLED TV?
I could get the TV practically for free (say 99% off), but I'... | 10tk5b6 | CMV: it's rational to not eagerly jump on a 49$ sale of a 50,000$ tractor | economics book gives the following example: you can save 10% on a 100$ phone by driving an hour further to get the deal. Would you do the same to save 10$ on a 2000$ TV? if not, you're irrational because, in either case, you're traveling 1 hour for 10$. percentage doesn't matter, only total cost.
So here's my challeng... | 1,675,527,313 | Farbio708 | j77wgc2 | j7778bn | 10 | 6 |
CMV: Western countries should limit the percentage of the population that is Muslim for safety and moral reasons
Firstly, I support high levels of immigration but immigration policy should be well crafted. I think a points and skill based system is the most ideal with some component of family reunification.
My argume... | Discrimination based on religious affiliation is illegal in most western countries. You’d have to prove each individual is a specific threat for reasons beyond their religious beliefs.
It would be more realistic to suggest countries develop tests to screen for individuals who support religious fundamentalism, as that’... | Isn't freedom of religion a high moral value of western countries? How do you reconcile the moral value of freedom of religion with your view of excluding a particular religion on moral reasons? | 199wmwg | CMV: Western countries should limit the percentage of the population that is Muslim for safety and moral reasons | Firstly, I support high levels of immigration but immigration policy should be well crafted. I think a points and skill based system is the most ideal with some component of family reunification.
My argument is that having a significant minority (5-10% +) be Muslims is dangerous. The reason for this is multi-folded.
... | 1,705,601,689 | DrKsg | kigw78y | kigw6ei | 7 | 1 |
CMV: A multi-party system and proprotional representation are more suitable in a Presidential system of government, than a two-party system and First-past-the-post, and vice versa for a Parliamentary system of government.
#Background.
In comparative politics, there is generally a division between two Systems of Gover... | Coming from a country that is parliamentary and has proportional representation, the smaller parties in a coalition do not have disproportionate power. Any party that tried to get more power than they deserve general ends in a new election where people will vote different, often against the party that caused the new el... | Your premise is flawed: FPTP doesn't get you only two parties, here in the UK we use it & the current government is propped up by a tiny number of MPs from a small regional party. Currently elected to parliament are the:
Conservative Party
Cooperative Party
Democrat Unionist Party
Green Party
Labour Party
L... | 8o74q6 | CMV: A multi-party system and proprotional representation are more suitable in a Presidential system of government, than a two-party system and First-past-the-post, and vice versa for a Parliamentary system of government. | #Background.
In comparative politics, there is generally a division between two Systems of Government – Presidential and Parliamentary, two Party Systems – two-party and multi-party, and two Electoral Systems – Proprotional Representation and First-past-the-post.
Now, the party systems are pretty self-explanatory:
*... | 1,528,012,288 | Glide08 | e01a08f | e018xep | 3 | 2 |
CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen
For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
* T... | Δ I read this as arguing Republicans wouldn't want to install an undeserving (for want of a better word) President because they wouldn't long be able to govern effectively & the backlash would make it not worth it. I'm not sure how much this will stymie undemocratic ambitions, but you've spelled out enough thorns in th... | I think you are right, for the wrong reason. As someone who watched your last election from the outside I don't see how anyone could consider it legitimate - far too many highly suspect things happened, and every attempt to investigate was shut down, often on technicalities.
It is likely that Trump is your duly electe... | q5w70c | CMV: the 2024 US Presidential election will likely be stolen | For the sake of this question, when I call a theft "likely" I mean "not *very* unlikely", rather than the probability necessarily exceeding 0.5.
Bill Maher [recently](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR4fXcsu9w) described a plausible-sounding scenario:
* Trump runs again, wins the nomination, and loses, but pretends ... | 1,633,959,942 | JosGibbons | hg8hcab | hg8gia5 | 2 | -3 |
CMV: I fail to see what is unique about terrorism as a form of violence
I don't think the actions currently associated with the word terrorism are inherently worse than conventional war practiced by most modern nations, That is not to say that I support the terrorists but I that I oppose terrorists because of their go... | I'd say the most obvious difference between war and terrorism is that warfare is always, at least theoretically, aimed towards other participants of a war, trying to avoid civilian casualties.
However, terrorists could argue that civilians in democratic societes are automatically participants. | The word terrorism is widely overused, I agree.
However the main distinguisher from terrorism vs military insurgency, etc. is that terrorists intentionally target civilian targets to intimidate the opposition. Insurgents target the military.
There can be state terrorism (like in North Korea) where they target civil... | 5s1xnv | CMV: I fail to see what is unique about terrorism as a form of violence | I don't think the actions currently associated with the word terrorism are inherently worse than conventional war practiced by most modern nations, That is not to say that I support the terrorists but I that I oppose terrorists because of their goals and general opposition to conflict.
My idea is as follows, the reaso... | 1,486,230,678 | Abohani | ddbtwdi | ddbtodw | 2 | 0 |
CMV: I don’t think a totalitarian regime can be enforced in the United States as it is in this point in time.
It’s a pretty common point of conversation in my social circle (we’re all liberals on the West Coast, but we have pretty diverse views in general). To preface, none of us are arguing that it absolutely cannot ... | That’s an interesting point actually. Would it apply to the US? As a disruption tactic it was surely successful. I feel like the US is just too large to collapse completely under the weight of one election though. When your largest economic hubs are mostly blue, I don’t see how the country would tolerate a right-wing t... | The U.S. military just started letting all the people who refused COVID vaccines sign up again because there aren't enough sane people who would ever bother joining. This is an issue with pretty much any institution like this– As their reputation worsens, the people who see a problem and could actually make an attempt ... | 199zdti | CMV: I don’t think a totalitarian regime can be enforced in the United States as it is in this point in time. | It’s a pretty common point of conversation in my social circle (we’re all liberals on the West Coast, but we have pretty diverse views in general). To preface, none of us are arguing that it absolutely cannot happen, but I’m not convinced that it can be enforced. I think that, even if, say, Jan 6 went differently, the ... | 1,705,608,413 | HungHeadsEmptyHearts | kihim53 | kihh541 | 30 | 6 |
CMV: Tom Brady is the greatest American Sports Player of all time.
Tom Brady recently announced his retirement (again), and as a casual NFL fan I've seen a lot of people proclaiming him the GOAT of the NFL. There does not seem to be really any serious pushback on this as far as I can tell. So, I started trying to comp... | [Bill Russel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Russell): 2 college championships with the University of San Fran, an Olympic gold medal, and 11 NBA championships in 13 years. HOF as a coach and player. Number retired NBA-wide. | Tom Brady's most viewed match is the 2015 superbowl with about 120 million viewers, while Muhammad Ali's fight with George Foreman, The Rumble in the Jungle had about 1 billion viewers worldwide. Ali had much bigger cultural impact I'd say. | 10smucy | CMV: Tom Brady is the greatest American Sports Player of all time. | Tom Brady recently announced his retirement (again), and as a casual NFL fan I've seen a lot of people proclaiming him the GOAT of the NFL. There does not seem to be really any serious pushback on this as far as I can tell. So, I started trying to compare him to other American sports legends to see how he stacked up. I... | 1,675,437,660 | DuhChappers | j72bw1z | j72biwd | 1 | 0 |
cmv:Abortion is sick
EDIT:
Change my mind partially, Abortion in the first trimester is properly fine if necessary considering the fetus doesn’t feel pain and is mostly not human. Obviously I still recommend not getting abortion and explore other options but it’s just my advise and up to the person and I obviously w... | >
I still find abortion to be a wrong as I would find murder to be wrong.
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>I think the Hyde law is a reasonable law. I think abortion should be allow in cases of rape/incest or cause the woman complications.
I would suggest that you investigate the underlying sources of your beliefs deeper, because this rea... | Why should your religious beliefs apply to another person? I have no religious, scientific or moral objections to abortion. Therefore i feel it should be legal and only an issue for a woman and her physician.
l.
Are you opposed to generous social programs to elevate children and their parents from poverty and provide ... | q5nlt0 | cmv:Abortion is sick |
EDIT:
Change my mind partially, Abortion in the first trimester is properly fine if necessary considering the fetus doesn’t feel pain and is mostly not human. Obviously I still recommend not getting abortion and explore other options but it’s just my advise and up to the person and I obviously want to reduce the numb... | 1,633,924,407 | Zoxzzyx | hg6wgfg | hg6w2mu | 16 | 4 |
CMV: All forms of monetary penalties should be based on the persons income
For example: Why should I pay the same amount of money for speeding as another person who earns 10x more money, than I do.
Isn't the whole reason for montery punishment, to make the person feel the impact of his/hers wrongdoing?
But if a ... | edit: 5 or 6 people have already commented on the difference between a penalty and damages/reimbursement.
I could probably agree with you about speeding tickets specifically, but ALL forms of monetary penalties?
A lot of penalties are based on damage done. If my negligence causes you to lose 100 dollars of property,... | Fines are (or should be) for crimes that might not necessarily be immoral by themselves but need to be discouraged as they incur a cost to society itself.
For instance, if I park in a no parking zone it might mean that the street cleaner needs To come back after my car is gone, or the street stays dirty for another w... | ga6umx | CMV: All forms of monetary penalties should be based on the persons income | For example: Why should I pay the same amount of money for speeding as another person who earns 10x more money, than I do.
Isn't the whole reason for montery punishment, to make the person feel the impact of his/hers wrongdoing?
But if a person, who earns 100k a month has to pay 300€ for a speeding ticket, do you... | 1,588,155,361 | VOIPASKAVITTU | foy1jrt | foxulac | 1,247 | 5 |
CMV: Feminism would be more widely adopted with men (and more successful) if it wasn't called "feminism"
Names matter...a lot.
Most men that are against feminism, by and large, don't hate women. They would want equality for men and women. If they have a daughter, wife, mother, sister etc, they want these women to be ... | I'd add to this...my premise is that the anti-feminist outrage machine wouldn't exist (or would be much tamer/smaller) if they were fighting against "gender rights".
Something neutral and inclusive-sounding is REALLY hard to argue against. | The bad connotations of feminism spring out of feminist activists who are instead of fighting for equal rights, are fighting for extra privilege. | 7smupi | CMV: Feminism would be more widely adopted with men (and more successful) if it wasn't called "feminism" | Names matter...a lot.
Most men that are against feminism, by and large, don't hate women. They would want equality for men and women. If they have a daughter, wife, mother, sister etc, they want these women to be treated well and have the same opportunities they have as men.
But, the name "feminism", to many men, mak... | 1,516,798,209 | rmhildebrandt | dt5xocg | dt5x8v7 | 0 | -4 |
CMV: The simulated universe theory is implausible
The idea that we are more likely to exist in a simulation is implausible because it has one major flaw: the whole thing relies on simulating every single atom, electron, and photon in a universe to even be possible in the first place. The scale is too huge unless there... | While it would require a ridiculous amount of computations, it can operate on whatever timescale it pleases. We wouldn't know the difference since we're the math being done, not the people watching. Also, this theoretical computer could exist in any number of other physical spaces with n dimensions and x elements, as o... | Your computer argument doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, If our universe is simulated it means there is an infinite amount of time before we were created to develop technology, for all we know this universe could be a pixel of what the “original universe” is capable of. I am not saying we live in a simulated universe ... | 10se3l3 | CMV: The simulated universe theory is implausible | The idea that we are more likely to exist in a simulation is implausible because it has one major flaw: the whole thing relies on simulating every single atom, electron, and photon in a universe to even be possible in the first place. The scale is too huge unless there's some kind of universal culling effect where thin... | 1,675,408,459 | Mister_T0nic | j70yn3s | j70xxlj | 2 | 1 |
CMV: It's selfish for a mother to choose formula feeding without at least attempting to breast feed.
While I agree that fed is best, I find it incredibly selfish that many moms go straight to formula feeding their newborns without even attempting to breast feed. There are of course exceptions to this including a whole... | Formula feeding for a working/traveling mom and a stay at home dad makes a lot more logistical sense.
Pumping/combination feeding is a logistical nightmare if the mother is traveling for days at a time without the baby. (Consider for example, a female pilot or business woman traveling internationally)
It's not sel... | > Breast milk is free and so is a breast pump if you have insurance thanks to Obama.
Breast milk is free only if the time of women is worth nothing.
> Places of work are required by law to provide time and space for mothers to pump, also thanks to Obama.
Right, but that doesn’t mean they always do. Some place... | 6q4jwg | CMV: It's selfish for a mother to choose formula feeding without at least attempting to breast feed. | While I agree that fed is best, I find it incredibly selfish that many moms go straight to formula feeding their newborns without even attempting to breast feed. There are of course exceptions to this including a whole score of medical issues, prior inability to breast feed other children, or an extended NICU stay, so ... | 1,501,255,997 | Trancespire | dkujvpq | dkui9vv | 23 | 15 |
CMV: Tom Brady is the greatest American Sports Player of all time.
Tom Brady recently announced his retirement (again), and as a casual NFL fan I've seen a lot of people proclaiming him the GOAT of the NFL. There does not seem to be really any serious pushback on this as far as I can tell. So, I started trying to comp... | Brady wasn't even considered the best player at his position many years he was in the league. He was great at winning, but in a team sport that requires more than just 1 player being great.
Brady is the most accomplished NFL QB ever. One of the most accomplished American atheletes ever.
There are several other athlet... | Do you take into account Olympic medals or world class trophies? And I mean competition against the rest of the globe, not winning a USA title and calling it world championship.
Brady has had a fantastic career, but did he accomplish world wide recognition?
Did he revolutionise the game?
Disclaimer: I'm not into Ameri... | 10smucy | CMV: Tom Brady is the greatest American Sports Player of all time. | Tom Brady recently announced his retirement (again), and as a casual NFL fan I've seen a lot of people proclaiming him the GOAT of the NFL. There does not seem to be really any serious pushback on this as far as I can tell. So, I started trying to compare him to other American sports legends to see how he stacked up. I... | 1,675,437,660 | DuhChappers | j72a955 | j7290ih | 27 | 1 |
CMV: The simulated universe theory is implausible
The idea that we are more likely to exist in a simulation is implausible because it has one major flaw: the whole thing relies on simulating every single atom, electron, and photon in a universe to even be possible in the first place. The scale is too huge unless there... | Why do you dismiss the culling effect as *just* solipsism? It’s still a valid answer to your stated major flaw.
As for the structure of such a machine, search Jupiter brain or Matrioshka brain. Here’s a video of you don’t watch to search: https://youtu.be/Rmb1tNEGwmo
As for purpose? We simulate things all the time. M... | Your computer argument doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, If our universe is simulated it means there is an infinite amount of time before we were created to develop technology, for all we know this universe could be a pixel of what the “original universe” is capable of. I am not saying we live in a simulated universe ... | 10se3l3 | CMV: The simulated universe theory is implausible | The idea that we are more likely to exist in a simulation is implausible because it has one major flaw: the whole thing relies on simulating every single atom, electron, and photon in a universe to even be possible in the first place. The scale is too huge unless there's some kind of universal culling effect where thin... | 1,675,408,459 | Mister_T0nic | j70yfw2 | j70xxlj | 5 | 1 |
CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president.
I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believ... | The sole positive I see from him is that he did not turn a blind eye to China. His motivations may or may not have been off center, but the CCP is a tyrannical regime that deprives its people of basic liberty and human rights and they have been systematically destroying the economies of other countries by dumping goods... | I don’t think we heard this when Obama was elected. I’d say if anything, because Obama was elected and we heard that “Wow, we come so far and there’s sunshine and daisies” and that’s why they went to sleep unaware of the ultimate rising backlash from “that” part of America. This is also why they felt that they didn’t h... | iq41dt | CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president. | I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believe he has done nothing, while conservatives will tout his unlimited success. I must be missing it, because ... | 1,599,747,097 | farm_sauce | g4pjj3x | g4pj4hs | 117 | 2 |
CMV: Neither socialism nor libertarianism would ultimately work for the same reason- people are too selfish.
Unlike my opinion on important topics like The Rock's movie output, this subject I know comparatively little about, and am looking forward to being enlightened.
Moderation in political beliefs seems to be dy... | >Unfettered capitalism has a *lot* of problems. Hell, we're not even in Ron Paul's dream world yet (too many minorities for his taste) and capitalism as it is has a lot of problems.
Ron Paul is not racist. His writings, speeches and voting history in congress say everything there is to say about him. The view that he'... | CMV_Guy
For this discussion, I will assume that you are almost exclusively talk about America.
If you are not, well, I'll respond.
>There's a huge number of growing socialists and communists on the left,
Nonwhites will outnumber whites in America by 2050 - when the population will be around 430 million. The number ... | 947s8g | CMV: Neither socialism nor libertarianism would ultimately work for the same reason- people are too selfish. | Unlike my opinion on important topics like The Rock's movie output, this subject I know comparatively little about, and am looking forward to being enlightened.
Moderation in political beliefs seems to be dying. There's a huge number of growing socialists and communists on the left, and there seems to be a large nu... | 1,533,284,159 | CMV_Guy | e3knfg0 | e3jti8h | 4 | 0 |
CMV: Using different statistical standards for False Accusations vs Rape accusations creates a misleading narrative.
The numbers we use for false accusations statistics and the numbers we use for rape statistics are predicated on completely different standards of measurement. This is not commonly understood causing pe... | Are you arguing the statistics for rape are false, because they’re based on self reporting? Reporting is different from accusing. There’s not much reason to lie on anonymous surveys — some people do, but statisticians have ways to account for that.
Or do think there are more false accusations than we realize? False ac... | I think OP means that a false accusation can be made, and proven to be false, but is never recorded as such for one of the reasons he listed.
| 9436xy | CMV: Using different statistical standards for False Accusations vs Rape accusations creates a misleading narrative. | The numbers we use for false accusations statistics and the numbers we use for rape statistics are predicated on completely different standards of measurement. This is not commonly understood causing people to interpret them on the same scale, leading to false premises and incorrect arguments. The result of this is a f... | 1,533,243,578 | Ralathar44 | e3hylxv | e3hyjip | 4 | 3 |
CMV: In the developed nations, we should consider it a moral obligation to have fewer children, later in life. In global aid we should be pouring resources into women's education and family planning.
The single biggest way thing you can do to reduce our impact on the environment is to have fewer children. To have chil... | First off, I'm going to agree with your sentiments. I agree these are noble and lofty goals.
However, not all people agree on a central question: Am I my brother's keeper? There are many people that want to improve the world, that want to improve the lives of strangers, that want a better future. However, there are a... | Virtually every developed nation has children later in life on average, and has fewer children than the needed replacement rate for the country. Societies naturally have these tendencies, so there is no need to focus on causing them as that will only lower birth rates further and cause massive economic problems.
In d... | 6q4i2g | CMV: In the developed nations, we should consider it a moral obligation to have fewer children, later in life. In global aid we should be pouring resources into women's education and family planning. | The single biggest way thing you can do to reduce our impact on the environment is to have fewer children. To have children later in life (i.e., in your thirties rather than twenties), in the long term reduces the global population. In the developed nations, where women have, relatively speaking, more equal access to e... | 1,501,255,545 | shouldbeworkingnow1 | dkukbf9 | dkujak1 | 7 | 6 |
CMV: It's better to play shieldless in Dark Souls
The first FROMSOFTWARE game I've ever played is Bloodborne. This may be the reason why I'm biased toward playing shieldless in Dark Souls as well. But I think trying to play these game shieldless would eventually help every player getting better at the game, or: git gu... | For Bloodbourne and Dark Souls II you are correct. Shields are their weakest point in Dark Souls II. They are significantly better in Dark Souls and Dark Souls III, offering a higher protection to weight ratio and magical augmentation as well. Shields are also a great help at dealing with weaker enemies so that you can... | https://youtu.be/g7pXyGby280?t=498
He's a speedrun. Note that when running past enemies sometimes they take the hit, sometimes they roll, and sometimes they tank it on a shield. Being able to reliably tank hits is often faster than dying, and sometimes you can't easily roll away.
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/c... | 7slsvb | CMV: It's better to play shieldless in Dark Souls | The first FROMSOFTWARE game I've ever played is Bloodborne. This may be the reason why I'm biased toward playing shieldless in Dark Souls as well. But I think trying to play these game shieldless would eventually help every player getting better at the game, or: git gud.
Note: After Bloodborne I played Dark Souls II: ... | 1,516,783,789 | KobusZSP | dt63y3p | dt5snmq | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Women should not serve in the front lines in the military
My instinct is strongly that women should be able to serve like men in combat, both as a matter of fairness to women (they should have the same opportunities as men) and to men (men shouldn't be the only ones dying for their country).
However, I recently ... | There are a few potential reasons why this study may have been compromised. I'm not saying they're necessarily true, but just bringing them up:
* The study was conducted with volunteers. This would tend to create somewhat of a selection bias. Whether that had a positive or negative effect for either males/females in c... | https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/17/marines-study-casts-doubts-mixed-gender-units
We can't draw conclusions from a 4 page summary. Other sources which have seen the full study pointed out:
> while mixed marine units showed superior morale and problem-solving and better discipline than units composed only ... | 7sk7i2 | CMV: Women should not serve in the front lines in the military | My instinct is strongly that women should be able to serve like men in combat, both as a matter of fairness to women (they should have the same opportunities as men) and to men (men shouldn't be the only ones dying for their country).
However, I recently saw an article that seems to show pretty conclusively that women... | 1,516,763,509 | ricksc-137 | dt5ekdg | dt5ec7l | 26 | 12 |
CMV: There should be no difference between taxes on Capital Gains and Earned Income
I'm in the US so my opinion only really relates to the tax policy here. I feel that the preference in our tax system for capital gains instead of ordinary income is an unfair susbidy towards the rich, who earn the majority of the capi... | So I'm curious to see some links regarding your second point. Basically when you invest in the stock market, unless you are buying into an IPO or secondary offering you aren't giving money to a company to invest. I don't see why that is preferable to spending the money on any product where the proceeds of that purcha... | This only hurts the middle class. Taxing them equally means that the people who don't primarily use Capital gains for their income are going to have to make much more money to fund their retirement.
The thing about taxing the wealthy, is that in reality they pay what they want to. The government is too slow and not re... | 7908o0 | CMV: There should be no difference between taxes on Capital Gains and Earned Income | I'm in the US so my opinion only really relates to the tax policy here. I feel that the preference in our tax system for capital gains instead of ordinary income is an unfair susbidy towards the rich, who earn the majority of the capital gains. I would be ok with only taxing real capital gains (meaning over and above... | 1,509,068,841 | dew89 | doy9qt7 | doy8vib | 2 | 1 |
CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them.
I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the q... | I can't speak for Hinduism, but I can explain the Christian perspective.
Imagine for a moment that you are passing by a starving child. You give them $1000 for food, shelter, and water, out of the kindness of your heart.
Imagine alternatively that you pass by that child, when suddenly, a man puts a gun to your head a... | So, if you are interested in learning more about this, this has a great deal of intersection with the idea of theodicy. It is discussed at length from a Christian perspective by CS Lewis in "The Problem of Pain," and I can't recommend that book enough.
Long story short though, it's kind of a metaphysical necessity tha... | 793e9q | CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them. | I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the questions I have as I lessen my belief in Hinduism. Hinduism being a henotheistic religion has the concept of a supreme God. If this world was essentially created by the Supreme God, he would have to purposefully create it too possess material w... | 1,509,112,681 | memeyar | doz7zhd | doz5x7y | 20 | 6 |
CMV: If you enjoy playing MMORPG games, you are a capitalist at heart.
The emphasis on this CMV is the wording *" at heart "*
MMORPG = massive multilayer online role playing game.
The essential goal In all mmorpgs is to get the highest level, prestige, or conquer the most difficult gaming content with other players ... | Seeking high levels, prestige, and conquest is not a component of Capitalism alone. It was also valued in Feudalism, Communism, and virtually ever society model on the planet. The only part of MMOs that has capitalism elements is playing the Auction Houses or player trade servicers. Not every MMO has these elements and... | Yes, but this has more to do with classic storytelling tropes than modern-day economic systems. Character progression is a mechanical representation of character development. In a book or movie, a character might go on a journey and come back stronger or wiser or more mature. In roleplaying games you see the same thing... | 7so3i0 | CMV: If you enjoy playing MMORPG games, you are a capitalist at heart. | The emphasis on this CMV is the wording *" at heart "*
MMORPG = massive multilayer online role playing game.
The essential goal In all mmorpgs is to get the highest level, prestige, or conquer the most difficult gaming content with other players (usually what is known as a guild). These guilds are usually in competit... | 1,516,810,043 | mergerr | dt6krc6 | dt69nsz | 4 | 2 |
CMV: Depression is the worst of all maladies.
**I see the error of my ways! No more, please, no more!**
First of all, if anyone who is reading this is depressed, please seek out a professional and information pertaining to the illness, through people, books, videos, etc... As long as there's life, there's hope.
I, l... | From your responses, it seems that you see depression as equivalent to intense sadness, grief, etc. While it may be common to say "I'm depressed about X," I think it's important to note that clinical depression is a chemical imbalance. You can live a perfect life but still feel joyless and hopeless because of major dep... | I would argue that since depression is treatable and so common that you'll be able to share your experience with people suffering from it, that there are many things that are worse. There are antidepressants, therapy, and all sorts of coping mechanisms to help someone who is suffering from depression.
You know what t... | 79320r | CMV: Depression is the worst of all maladies. | **I see the error of my ways! No more, please, no more!**
First of all, if anyone who is reading this is depressed, please seek out a professional and information pertaining to the illness, through people, books, videos, etc... As long as there's life, there's hope.
I, like many of you I suspect, have experienced dep... | 1,509,109,063 | AnEwokRedditor | doywe6j | doyseyv | 9 | 1 |
CMV: German Guilt is Harmful to Germany
*EDIT*: So I've found out thanks to some Native Germans in the comics that this belief isn't as prevalent as outside stereotyping would make non-Germans believe. So I want to shift the discussion a little bit: should people feel guilty on a personal level for what their anscesto... | Actually, Germans don't feel guilt for the actions of the Third Reich anymore - not on a personal level at least, I can't rule it out on a nationalistic level.
Still, we don't forget about them, and we don't *want* to forget about them: While we shouldn't be bound by what has happened in the past, we shouldn't forget ... | It's not like they're not moving on. You make it seem like you think it should just happen all at once. You might be young and viewing this in a skewed way, but the holocaust was not even a century ago. There are people today who are holocaust survivors. Saying the country should just move on like it was nothing is inc... | 6q3zwv | CMV: German Guilt is Harmful to Germany | *EDIT*: So I've found out thanks to some Native Germans in the comics that this belief isn't as prevalent as outside stereotyping would make non-Germans believe. So I want to shift the discussion a little bit: should people feel guilty on a personal level for what their anscestors and/or country did in the past? (ie wh... | 1,501,250,746 | viper1030 | dkudslm | dkudpoa | 396 | 56 |
CMV: Most Models aren't Attractive
When I was younger my mother demanded that we watch T.V. as a family. Since I was the only guy, I had no choice but to watch whatever tf my mom and sisters wanted to watch, and that included America's Next Top Model. After being forced to watch that show, I realized that despite many... | First of all models are not a monolith- for example there is a difference between runway and swimsuit models. But even looking at the cliche runway model, plenty of people desire then sexually which means that, at least to some people, I’d argue most people, most runway models are attractive at least to some degree.
... | We should be able to distinguish these two concepts: attractive, and attractive personally.
No one can convince you to be attracted to someone you're not attracted to. But there's a ton of money in looking good. The way capitalism works the most attractive to society models tend to win out. Just because they're not yo... | 10sa3co | CMV: Most Models aren't Attractive | When I was younger my mother demanded that we watch T.V. as a family. Since I was the only guy, I had no choice but to watch whatever tf my mom and sisters wanted to watch, and that included America's Next Top Model. After being forced to watch that show, I realized that despite many people acting like models were the ... | 1,675,395,687 | Alternative_Usual189 | j71hfx0 | j70hu9o | 4 | 1 |
CMV: Pizza makers should spend extra time to make sure pepperoni is evenly spread out
At first, this seems like a CMV with no opposing side. But considering how many pizzas that I've eaten in my life and how many have unevenly spread out toppings, I believe this CMV is needed. I'm talking about all the pizzas. Full pi... | >frozen pizza
The pizzas are stored upright, which causes the frozen pepperonis to slide to the bottom. The only way to attach them would be to melt the cheese, which would mean the pizza would have to be cooked beforehand, turning it into a reheated pizza rather than a raw pizza you cook in your oven at home. | I believe the Free Market takes care of this for us.
If some pizza maker suddenly had very good returns on taking the extra time to spread the toppings out evenly. Over time you would see every single pizza maker make this adjustment.
As it stands what we find is the exact opposite. Most people don't care about the t... | q5d6q8 | CMV: Pizza makers should spend extra time to make sure pepperoni is evenly spread out | At first, this seems like a CMV with no opposing side. But considering how many pizzas that I've eaten in my life and how many have unevenly spread out toppings, I believe this CMV is needed. I'm talking about all the pizzas. Full pies from a pizza shop, frozen pizza, personal pies. Having an empty cold spot on a perso... | 1,633,888,926 | meteoraln | hg4qssi | hg4q8fd | 81 | 36 |
CMV: There is no epidemic of blacks being shot by police, it's a fabrication and fake outrage.
A common claim by progressives and left wing pundits is blacks are being shot and murdered by cops, it's an epidemic, and it has to stop. I believe that not only is it inherently false but the people who make this claim are ... | I'm not sure whether it's true or not, a lot of people argue a lot of different things about how to interpret the statistical data and control for different factors and they usually interpret them based on party lines.
However, I do think the overall result of this narrative has been positive whether it is truthful or... | So I also agree that the string of high-profile cases in recent years is largely a fabrication. The media and people in general are just really interested in these cases now, where they were largely ignored before.
That said, I think that this kind of violence can be a real problem. It's no secret that the relationshi... | 8o6xf4 | CMV: There is no epidemic of blacks being shot by police, it's a fabrication and fake outrage. | A common claim by progressives and left wing pundits is blacks are being shot and murdered by cops, it's an epidemic, and it has to stop. I believe that not only is it inherently false but the people who make this claim are either ignorant or creating fake outrage knowingly.
Black people are shot at 2.5 times the rat... | 1,528,009,172 | ajjets10 | e015rl6 | e015cxa | 13 | 9 |
CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships.
As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weeke... | ∆ Your comment made me realize that there's a broader societal problem and if I were to try to change something in my son's life I should think about creating these third space for my son and his friends to hang out in. Small example is that he had, at 13, a birthday get together at a bowling alley, and it's something ... | That's a great point. I was in high school when texting and eventually MySpace blew up. I spent the vast majority of my time outside of school connecting with school friends online or through text. It wasn't until late high school when I had a car that I started seeing them in real life more.
Maybe they can encourage ... | 19a0ir3 | CMV: My teen spends much more time Online than IRL, and I believe it's an unhealthy balance that will impact his future relationships. | As a parent, I'm concerned about my 13yo son's social engagements, which is mostly online, through gaming. He has friends from school, but rarely sees them after school or on the weekends outside of school. I worry about the long-term effects on his social and emotional development as a person spending so much time onl... | 1,705,611,196 | blueandyshores | kihuvgk | kihqimt | 291 | 9 |
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