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CMV: If you're REALLY good at something, practice is more or less arbitrary
This is based on a debate I'm having with a friend who's been putting in insane amounts of practice time into his hobby with the expectation that he'll become successful solely off of effort alone.
I'm not saying that practice isn't importan... | As others have noted, plenty of elite performers in a variety of fields put in extreme amounts of practice & effort. It would be unreasonable to assume that their effort had nothing to do with their success. Granting this, your view basically comes down to "talent and practice both influence success", which is a fairly... | I remember learning in jazz class how Charlie Parker would practice his chops 8 hours a day. A similar example is I've heard the other two members of Nirvana complain that Kurt Cobain was extremely insistent on practice and took it very seriously. In other words I'm very skeptical that top musicians don't practice hard... | 5s2a84 | CMV: If you're REALLY good at something, practice is more or less arbitrary | This is based on a debate I'm having with a friend who's been putting in insane amounts of practice time into his hobby with the expectation that he'll become successful solely off of effort alone.
I'm not saying that practice isn't important, or even that it's not vital to succeed, nor am I diminishing anyone's hard... | 1,486,234,478 | believeinwhatyouwant | ddbza6u | ddby9p8 | 7 | 2 |
CMV: Star Wars movies are extremely boring and overhyped
I’m a millennial and I just watched A New Hope last year as I was out of the loop when it comes to most pop culture references about the Star Wars series and most people consider them as the best movies ever made.
I found it to be very boring and painful to wa... | Okay, this is going to be a weird one, because I'm not going to try and convince you that the Star Wars movies are *not* extremely boring and overhyped, because firstly, I don't entirely disagree, and secondly, as you've said:
>liking a movie is subjective
You have decided you do not like Star Wars. There is actually... | Okay so this is a Seinfeld/Friends problem.
I would bet that if you went and watched Seinfeld, you'd find a lot of the jokes stale and a lot of the premises overdone and cliche.
That's because **it was so God damned hilarious** when it happened, EVERYONE copied it and now 20 years later, you've seen the jokes 10 and ... | 86eb6g | CMV: Star Wars movies are extremely boring and overhyped | I’m a millennial and I just watched A New Hope last year as I was out of the loop when it comes to most pop culture references about the Star Wars series and most people consider them as the best movies ever made.
I found it to be very boring and painful to watch. Nothing exciting happens at any point. Mind you, I’m ... | 1,521,746,946 | JustHi5 | dw4j41x | dw4er0j | 16 | 8 |
CMV: Ronald Reagan isn't to be thanked for marriage equality.
I don't agree with a whole lot of the Reagan hate peddled by the left these days and agree with some of his policies (particularly his administration's efforts to launch the WTO), but pro-LGBT Republicans today seem to think that he was to thank for the Obe... | He was also responsible for the rise of no-fault divorce.
This helped the giew of marriage to transition away from a religious commitment documented by the government to a secular legal contract which parties could opt to dissolve.
Whovh has lead to the modern perspective of religion simply being a union between two ... | Source? | 6jj0vu | CMV: Ronald Reagan isn't to be thanked for marriage equality. | I don't agree with a whole lot of the Reagan hate peddled by the left these days and agree with some of his policies (particularly his administration's efforts to launch the WTO), but pro-LGBT Republicans today seem to think that he was to thank for the Obergfell ruling, which is just bizarre. They point out that Justi... | 1,498,452,064 | agirlhasnoname99 | djembk0 | djelyxu | 12 | 0 |
CMV: Minors should be able to send each other sexts
I know a minor who had sent sexually suggestive photos to someone her age and she was convicted of a federal offense. They were both about 14, and both consenting. To make it clear, if you’re over 18 you can send your nudes to anyone but minors, and post them where... | If you are a minor, your parents have the legal right to confiscate and search your phone in all states (as far as I know). This would mean the parents would then view child pornography in that case. A perverse parent could give his (or her) permission to the minor child to sext and face no legal ramifications. | But image sharing afterwards is often not consensual. We regulate what minors can and cannot do because they are physically and emotionally immature. They are ignorant and lack life experiences to make informed decisions.
So 6 year olds should be able to share sexts? | 8684e3 | CMV: Minors should be able to send each other sexts | I know a minor who had sent sexually suggestive photos to someone her age and she was convicted of a federal offense. They were both about 14, and both consenting. To make it clear, if you’re over 18 you can send your nudes to anyone but minors, and post them wherever, and in America and it is protected b/c 1st admen... | 1,521,685,130 | Joe_MOTS | dw32voj | dw32ts5 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Schools are doing a terrible job in succsesfully teaching students
I am not talking about if the topics covered and teached will come useful later in life. I am talking about that for all the research and studies done releated to learning, schools seem to be attempting their hardest to screw up their students.
... | We all learn best in different ways, but a teacher can't have a different lesson for every one in their class. If you are rich enough then you could have an individual tutor to teach you your own way. But school budgets are limited and you have to make the best of what's available.
Just how early do you get up? At 1... | If the teacher is good and does their job they will try with all of their power to differentiate the instruction to reach every child. I know many teachers who teach to every style of learning and are continuously furthering their education to better their teaching (in fact in my state teachers are required to take 15 ... | e16llb | CMV: Schools are doing a terrible job in succsesfully teaching students | I am not talking about if the topics covered and teached will come useful later in life. I am talking about that for all the research and studies done releated to learning, schools seem to be attempting their hardest to screw up their students.
I don't know about your expirience in school, but mine was a bit hard due... | 1,574,637,015 | great_Kaiser | f8n4dn1 | f8n3wgt | 10 | 3 |
CMV: Jobs should always go to the native citizen of a country rather than the immigrant who lacks citizenship
I don't get a ton of room to really hash out my view, so let me explain a bit better what I mean: there is a lot of debate over typically lower level, lower class jobs and whether it is fair that they be taken... | >The biggest reason for this is that a country needs to take care of its own BEFORE it can help others.
But immigrants who live in your country aren't "others", they're as much a part of that country as people who were born there are. Citizenship is a piece of paper, basically. And a flimsy one at that: your policy wo... | So hold on, if there are two candidates for a job, both are qualified but the one who would be on the H1B visa is the better fit you think I should have to choose the one from someone who isn’t an immigrant? Even though the other person is here legally and is the one who I feel is going to be a better worker? | e1i02a | CMV: Jobs should always go to the native citizen of a country rather than the immigrant who lacks citizenship | I don't get a ton of room to really hash out my view, so let me explain a bit better what I mean: there is a lot of debate over typically lower level, lower class jobs and whether it is fair that they be taken by immigrants. And in those situations where it's a native citizen of a country competing with a first generat... | 1,574,697,636 | IYELLALLTHETIME | f8pauib | f8paimk | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president.
I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believ... | Doubling the standard deduction on taxes is absolutely a net positive thing for most people in the country. Previously people would rarely get above the 12k line unless they used their mortgage interest deduction, so itemizing unfairly balanced towards home owners (of which I am one and previously benefited). But this ... | A broken clock it right twice a day. Incompetence can still lead to some positivity, especially since we have a checks and balance system. It also depends on what you deem as "positive". Positive for a conservative might be a negative for you. For example, most of Trump's tenure was spent putting conservative judges in... | iq41dt | CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president. | I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believe he has done nothing, while conservatives will tout his unlimited success. I must be missing it, because ... | 1,599,747,097 | farm_sauce | g4ompms | g4ol75b | 1,652 | -10 |
CMV: Pregnancy protection laws aren't fair for anyone involved.
So, while I'll admit right off the bat that I don't know much of anything about the *specifics* of these laws, I'll mainly talk about the laws I've heard of that attempt to stop employers from discriminating *during the hiring process* based on whether a ... | These laws protect against sex discrimination. I'm currently pregnant, visibly so, and NY state recently passed a law providing 8 weeks parental leave so both my husband and I will be eligible. If I went on a job interview today the interviewer could see that I was pregnant and discriminate against me. If my husband... | >The main reason behind laws like that is that, as a society, we need people. If employers could discriminate against people who are trying to increase the population, then increasing the population would be discouraged, and the population would decrease. As a society, we don't want to encourage our own destruction.
I... | 6jikhx | CMV: Pregnancy protection laws aren't fair for anyone involved. | So, while I'll admit right off the bat that I don't know much of anything about the *specifics* of these laws, I'll mainly talk about the laws I've heard of that attempt to stop employers from discriminating *during the hiring process* based on whether a woman is or is soon likely to be pregnant (and therefore require ... | 1,498,445,879 | V_varius | djeiue8 | djeiqd5 | 9 | 1 |
CMV: Universal Basic Income makes much less sense than simply expanding the Welfare System
I think that for redistributing wealth to deal with increased automation, expanding the welfare system makes way more sense than UBI. I want to begin this by defining UBI and the welfare system as I understand them.
- UBI - "t... | All your points are missing one simple thing.
You need to raise taxes to pay for UBI.
Ideally, the tax hike is *exactly* proportional to the payment for people at the median income. So you get $30,0000 a year, but pay an extra $30,000 in taxes.
No extra buying power, no inflation. | > Honestly probably the uneducated would end up in debt spirals and the more Intellegent would see the impending spiral and not take the deal, which would amount in there being virtually no welfare state for those people
Sounds like we've got a win-win there. Those who should not be voting are unable to vote but still... | 6jgnbe | CMV: Universal Basic Income makes much less sense than simply expanding the Welfare System | I think that for redistributing wealth to deal with increased automation, expanding the welfare system makes way more sense than UBI. I want to begin this by defining UBI and the welfare system as I understand them.
- UBI - "to provide all legal residents of a country a standard sum of cash unconnected to work"
- Th... | 1,498,423,617 | Northerner6 | dje7stn | dje4vse | 4 | 0 |
CMV: Political parties are unpatriotic and go against the constitution (American)
Imo political parties have no place in Democracy and as we see in modern US, it causes citizens to vote for "the lesser of two evils" and feel pressured to be either Democrat or Republican. While I don't think voting either way is necess... | The problem with saying the two-party system is against the constitution is very simple: the constitution is the whole reason we have a two party system to begin with.
When you have a first past the post voting system, whoever gets the most votes in a single district wins. The result of this is that the votes of all t... | First off, the United States has never been a democracy, it is a representative republic. This is why we have the electoral college and representatives who go make laws for us.
This system leads to people taking a more back seat role in their government because its someone else's job to do that. This leads to partie... | io6nam | CMV: Political parties are unpatriotic and go against the constitution (American) | Imo political parties have no place in Democracy and as we see in modern US, it causes citizens to vote for "the lesser of two evils" and feel pressured to be either Democrat or Republican. While I don't think voting either way is necessarily bad, supporting with donations, signs, convincing others to vote, etc. Goes a... | 1,599,482,114 | TejCrescendo | g4clspf | g4cf1xv | 3 | -7 |
CMV: I think the Israel & Palestine conflict is only as “big” as it is because of the US & EU relationship with Judaism Christianity & Islam
There are currently dozens of armed conflicts going on in the world at any given time, but only certain ones gain lots of traction when it comes to air time (talked about, broadc... | The west cared about Israel before the west had issues with Islam. The republican party at one point viewed Muslims immigrants as natural allies of conservatism in the US.
You also have the muhajeen in Afghanistan being considered honorable freedom fighters.
The west didn't really care too much when Christian land in... | I think people fighting over their imaginary friends is funny af | 17l1g41 | CMV: I think the Israel & Palestine conflict is only as “big” as it is because of the US & EU relationship with Judaism Christianity & Islam | There are currently dozens of armed conflicts going on in the world at any given time, but only certain ones gain lots of traction when it comes to air time (talked about, broadcast on TV) in the West.
I think the current situation involving Israel has gotten that reaction because of the West’s relations with Judais... | 1,698,803,626 | Eli-Had-A-Book- | k7bc8mu | k7bbxm3 | 9 | 1 |
CMV: Atheism is irrational if there is a self
Atheism definition for purpose of this:
I've gotten a ton of definitions of Atheism for what it means for different people. I will summarize what I mean by Atheism for the purpose of this.
Atheism envisions a system where everything functions by laws of universe and rando... | One of my favorite philosophers is this guy named Wittgenstein, and he would say that you have fallen into the trap of a grammatical fiction. A couple quotes relevant to this:
"25. The human body is the best picture of the human soul"
"We seem to have an infallible paradigm of identity in the identity o... | >Your post isn't particularly clear and does ramble.
That's an ad hominem. Bad form. | 6j8hz0 | CMV: Atheism is irrational if there is a self | Atheism definition for purpose of this:
I've gotten a ton of definitions of Atheism for what it means for different people. I will summarize what I mean by Atheism for the purpose of this.
Atheism envisions a system where everything functions by laws of universe and random chance with no other influences. In particula... | 1,498,315,513 | beantwin | dje9aon | djchz3o | 1 | -2 |
CMV: Daycares and personal (professional) nannies/babysitters should be paid for by a government program parents opt into
I believe nannies and babysitters should be paid a living salary, just like everyone else. However, its extremely difficult, and honestly a bit unrealistic to expect parents to pay a living salary ... | > I’m not sure how much it takes to run a daycare and make a profit, but maybe $100-200 per month per child?
So imagine a daycare with 15 kids. At $200/kid, that's $3,000/month. If that daycare is, say, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and you have one person dealing with all 20 kids (which seems like a lot, honestly),... | I hear where you're coming from in terms of it being a benefit that anyone would be able to take advantage of if they chose to become a parent (so, fair in that sense) and could benefit from themselves as a child.
At the same time though, is it a good idea to subsidize people making the (very expensive) choice to hav... | ipwxnc | CMV: Daycares and personal (professional) nannies/babysitters should be paid for by a government program parents opt into | I believe nannies and babysitters should be paid a living salary, just like everyone else. However, its extremely difficult, and honestly a bit unrealistic to expect parents to pay a living salary out of their own pocket for daycare/babysitting. So one parent has to stay home with the child and not work, even if they w... | 1,599,714,132 | NymeriaBites | g4mkwyg | g4mklym | 9 | 2 |
CMV: Being a United States citizen should not automatically qualify you to vote
Hi CMV,
I would like this subreddit to change my view that being an American citizen does not automatically qualify you to vote (barring being under 18, a felon, or incarcerated). I believe there should be some basic test or set of qualif... | Okay, so.
>There are too many people who are ignorant on serious topics who are voting in a way that could arguably be detrimental to American society.
This, I agree with. You are absolutely correct that a lot of the US populace is ignorant on the issues upon which they vote, and upon historical and political matters... | >I would like this subreddit to change my view that being an American citizen does not automatically qualify you to vote (barring being under 18, a felon, or incarcerated). I believe there should be some basic test or set of qualifications to verify your knowledge on the topics/candidates for which you are voting.
Wel... | 86dx5g | CMV: Being a United States citizen should not automatically qualify you to vote | Hi CMV,
I would like this subreddit to change my view that being an American citizen does not automatically qualify you to vote (barring being under 18, a felon, or incarcerated). I believe there should be some basic test or set of qualifications to verify your knowledge on the topics/candidates for which you are voti... | 1,521,744,012 | zetterburger | dw4cmoc | dw4ciow | 24 | 2 |
CMV: If whatever makes your character different (sexual identity/disability etc) is your main selling point, your book is probably boring.
Before I begin, I want to make it clear that I'm not talking about race. Some may think race should be included in this, but I don't. I'm not sure why, maybe because the stories I'... | I think you're looking at a bad example of advertising a character's sexuality and applying this concern broadly. Sexuality, gender, religion, or ability do not make an interesting story by themselves, but conflict arising from any of those things can.
A story about a religious man going to church might not be interes... | Sorry, u/una_lata_de_sardinas – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 1:
> **Direct responses to a CMV post must challenge at least one aspect of OP’s stated view (however minor), or ask a clarifying question**. Arguments in favor of the view OP is willing to change must be restricted to replies to other com... | mu84wm | CMV: If whatever makes your character different (sexual identity/disability etc) is your main selling point, your book is probably boring. | Before I begin, I want to make it clear that I'm not talking about race. Some may think race should be included in this, but I don't. I'm not sure why, maybe because the stories I've read (featuring black or black-coded characters) have in some way centred around race and so it adds to the story. I guess as a white per... | 1,618,859,725 | doriangraiy | gv5aq8t | gv4y66f | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president.
I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believ... | He fully funded the Land and Water Conservation Fund in perpetuity, as well as funded nearly all of the necessary backlog repair work for the national parks. Look up the Great American Outdoors Act. I have more, but I believe this disproves your claim.
Edit: Some people seem to have misunderstood what this CMV is abou... | >He's donated his entire presidential salary to a variety of causes
He also profited from being Preaident by having everything at Trump locations.
>He convinced the Mexican government to modernise its labour laws as part of a trade treaty
He rewrote NAFTA and slapped his name on it to feel good.
>He started posit... | iq41dt | CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president. | I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believe he has done nothing, while conservatives will tout his unlimited success. I must be missing it, because ... | 1,599,747,097 | farm_sauce | g4oqdy8 | g4oosei | 884 | 4 |
CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it
I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happ... | 1. You can unpoliticize it by reading the actual studies which also track side effects.
2. Who did it without question? The FDA has standards including approving drug test designs to ensure safety and effectiveness. See #1 above. It is public data. While not 100% perfect those standards are the best class gold standa... | Look at the next year of tens to hundreds of millions of people getting the vaccine as your means of getting data. Now with such a large sample size and the intial testing having been done 2 years ago there is more known about possibility of spread and true efficacy and safety of the vaccine. Then you could reevaluate ... | mu20lk | CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it | I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happen to me is that I get something akin to the flu for a couple of weeks, then fine that's ... | 1,618,843,116 | ZeusThunder369 | gv3513u | gv34urw | 7 | 1 |
CMV: The only time anyone should need a gun when not on private property or at a licensed range is for licensed hunting. (USA)
When I say anyone, I also mean police. The only time a gun should be openly wielded in modern society is in response to a violent criminal emergency. Not against protestors, not at traffic sto... | > The only time a gun should be openly wielded in modern society is in response to a violent criminal emergency.
So the police need to have guns in order to respond to a violent criminal emergency. Nobody notifies you in advance that they are going to commit a crime.
As a brit I think the US does have a big problem ... | I would like to add hiking and wilderness exploration as a viable time to have a gun, because even if you are not there to hunt, predators won't just leave you alone if you are carrying food, which is often needed for extended hiking and camping expeditions. I might never use that gun, but I would rather have it and be... | ipqz25 | CMV: The only time anyone should need a gun when not on private property or at a licensed range is for licensed hunting. (USA) | When I say anyone, I also mean police. The only time a gun should be openly wielded in modern society is in response to a violent criminal emergency. Not against protestors, not at traffic stops, not in response to a robbery, effectively nothing short of someone threatening other people with a gun. Obviously there are ... | 1,599,691,356 | Eastwoodnorris | g4lkt0y | g4ljxb9 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Trunk or treat is killing the fabric of America
Trunk or treat devalues Halloween and the communal spirit of walking your neighborhood interacting with your neighbors and building community. Trick or treats are cheap thrills for kids and don’t provide the memories or sense of community that trick or treating nigh... | Some areas are not safe for traditional trick or treat.
If you live on a street where houses are 1/4 mile apart and there are no sidewalks or streetlights, that area isn't appropriate for traditional Trick or Treat.
Trunk or Treat lets people still "work" for their candy in places where it might not have been possi... | This seems like more of a soapbox rather than a view. What would change your view? | 17l1r87 | CMV: Trunk or treat is killing the fabric of America | Trunk or treat devalues Halloween and the communal spirit of walking your neighborhood interacting with your neighbors and building community. Trick or treats are cheap thrills for kids and don’t provide the memories or sense of community that trick or treating night of Halloween provides. With communities offering mul... | 1,698,804,562 | ChiefJedi207 | k7bchox | k7bcfe2 | 345 | 16 |
CMV: Impeachment or removal of Donald Trump from office would have no downside and really would be best for everyone.
It seems to me that removing Trump from office, whether by impeachment under the Emoluments Clause or declared "unfit for duty" under the 25th Amendment is a win/win/win scenario with no downside for a... | A potential issue I see is that while Pence is awful, he lacks the sort of obvious repugnance Trump possesses that is leading to such a considerable backlash from the left. With Trump out of the way, the leftist resistance against the GOP will likely lessen considerably, leading to far more of the disastrous levels of ... | It kinda depends on what support Pence would have... he'd certainly be struggling with the question of legitimacy of his presidency, not having been elected and having been on the ticket of an impeached president, and the fallout from the impeachment of Trump and his role in Trump's administration. The impeachment proc... | 5s102j | CMV: Impeachment or removal of Donald Trump from office would have no downside and really would be best for everyone. | It seems to me that removing Trump from office, whether by impeachment under the Emoluments Clause or declared "unfit for duty" under the 25th Amendment is a win/win/win scenario with no downside for anyone involved. Some details:
**Trump himself**: He likes winning. His entire campaign was run not as an application fo... | 1,486,220,185 | Iron_Nightingale | ddbp9u7 | ddbntcn | 17 | 2 |
CMV: Universal Basic Income makes much less sense than simply expanding the Welfare System
I think that for redistributing wealth to deal with increased automation, expanding the welfare system makes way more sense than UBI. I want to begin this by defining UBI and the welfare system as I understand them.
- UBI - "t... | I think you're halfway there though, UBI *is* just another way to redistribute wealth. The argument that is made though is that its a better one.
On your point 1, you're making an assumption that the tax structure stays the same, but everyone gets an extra sum of money per year. This comes out of some pool of federal... | Both UBI and Welfare should be eliminated in favor of use-based welfare. Before I begin I'm talking about existence-based welfare where the only reason you're getting money is because you exist, this is different than welfare based on doing a task (eg: most "corporate" welfare, government jobs, etc.)
Both UBI and Wel... | 6jgnbe | CMV: Universal Basic Income makes much less sense than simply expanding the Welfare System | I think that for redistributing wealth to deal with increased automation, expanding the welfare system makes way more sense than UBI. I want to begin this by defining UBI and the welfare system as I understand them.
- UBI - "to provide all legal residents of a country a standard sum of cash unconnected to work"
- Th... | 1,498,423,617 | Northerner6 | dje6t5o | dje3s5y | 12 | -3 |
CMV: Feminism is baseless in the United States
When I first heard of the term feminism, it was through Emma Watson's he for she campaign through which she wanted to empower women all across the world to be educated and have the same opportunities for me and I was 100% for that. Then, as a few years went by I saw an in... | Its possible to hold the position that women have the same legal rights as men, but that the social standards applied to and opportunities available for women are broadly different from those for men.
Political representation, the importance of appearance to credibility, representation in media, and cultural attitude... | Sorry, u/ConnectPermission – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 5:
> **Comments must contribute meaningfully to the conversation**.
Comments that are only links, jokes or "written upvotes" will be removed. Humor and affirmations of agreement can be contained within more substantial comments. [See the wi... | b348xu | CMV: Feminism is baseless in the United States | When I first heard of the term feminism, it was through Emma Watson's he for she campaign through which she wanted to empower women all across the world to be educated and have the same opportunities for me and I was 100% for that. Then, as a few years went by I saw an increase in feminist media coverage in the United ... | 1,553,036,351 | [deleted] | eix2hf6 | eix1g11 | 10 | 1 |
CMV: Minors should be able to send each other sexts
I know a minor who had sent sexually suggestive photos to someone her age and she was convicted of a federal offense. They were both about 14, and both consenting. To make it clear, if you’re over 18 you can send your nudes to anyone but minors, and post them where... | So say two 17 year olds are sexting. Tomorrow, one of them turns 18.
Should they now have to stop? If they do stop, does the now-18 year old have to secure wipe their phone the day before their birthday so as not to be in possesion of child porn?
For that matter, say two 14 year olds are sexting..one busts the scree... | Let's just assume we are in CT then, for sake of discussion.
The difference between sexts and sex is that sex happens in the moment, while sexts are permanent(ish). A week later, a month later, a year later, that sext still exists.
There is nothing wrong with 2 16 year olds having sex. But there is an issue of an 1... | 8684e3 | CMV: Minors should be able to send each other sexts | I know a minor who had sent sexually suggestive photos to someone her age and she was convicted of a federal offense. They were both about 14, and both consenting. To make it clear, if you’re over 18 you can send your nudes to anyone but minors, and post them wherever, and in America and it is protected b/c 1st admen... | 1,521,685,130 | Joe_MOTS | dw3z2ft | dw39dko | 8 | 1 |
CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president.
I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believ... | I am not a fan and I hate saying anything positive but...
He has exposed to more people than ever before the sheer amount of corruption going on in the Federal Government. | And ad a day trader, you also recognize that the increases in the stock market have primarily been driven primarily by the tech sector. Something average Americans do not have access to. | iq41dt | CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president. | I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believe he has done nothing, while conservatives will tout his unlimited success. I must be missing it, because ... | 1,599,747,097 | farm_sauce | g4ovoru | g4opvah | 154 | -5 |
CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it
I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happ... | >Wearing a mask was politicized by Trump, and now the vaccine has been politicized. I have trouble trusting any authority on this matter because I fear they may have political bias.
The vaccine has been supported by Trump and Biden, by public health appointees from both administrations, by career public health profe... | I think the biggest factor with regards to deciding whether or not to take the vaccine is to look at the hard evidence on the pro and con side, and then make a cost-benefit analysis.
On the one hand, covid is very likely to cause a multitude of serious health issues including death if you are vulnerable or above 50, a... | mu20lk | CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it | I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happen to me is that I get something akin to the flu for a couple of weeks, then fine that's ... | 1,618,843,116 | ZeusThunder369 | gv38ju4 | gv37v27 | 7 | 4 |
CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it
I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happ... | Could you tell me more about this? The tech has been labeled as "new" by people reporting it. But if it was used to study SARS then that wouldn't be new at all. | The risk of getting Covid may be very small, but the risk of getting side effects from the vaccine is even lower.
If you don't get the vaccine, it's not like you're gonna die or anything, if you get it, probably nothing is gonna happen either.
I just recommend you do what emotions tell you to do. It really doesn't ma... | mu20lk | CMV: I'm concerned about the safety of the covid vaccine, and do not plan on getting it | I'm just going to list all of my concerns below. The best course for changing my view here I think would be to let me know what the "worst case scenario" is (and how we know this to be true); EG - If the worst thing that could happen to me is that I get something akin to the flu for a couple of weeks, then fine that's ... | 1,618,843,116 | ZeusThunder369 | gv37126 | gv363zn | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Science is getting incredibly politicized, and it's starting to make me have a knee-jerk reaction of instinctual disbelief whenever studies come out from "experts". And not the good kind of skepticism either.
TL;DR - Science is becoming politicized/religious/dogmatic in how it interacts with the public, and it's ... | I don't think you are talking about science. You are talking about non-scientist (maybe political) pundits pretending to use science to justify whatever they want. How is that different from any time in history?
>When I read an article about a new study, or listen to an interview from a scientist, I no longer sense th... | So scientific journalism has been killing science for as long as ive been alive and is to blame imo for things like climate change denial, flat earth, and the rise in anti-science and anti-intellectual voices.
My reasoning is as follows. Most scientific journalism portrays science as a truth finding practice. "Exp... | 17lhopx | CMV: Science is getting incredibly politicized, and it's starting to make me have a knee-jerk reaction of instinctual disbelief whenever studies come out from "experts". And not the good kind of skepticism either. | TL;DR - Science is becoming politicized/religious/dogmatic in how it interacts with the public, and it's scaring the shit outta me, and making me feel like I don't have the right to learn and have an open mind.
Without going into details and risking sending the discussion off the rails, recently science has gotten so... | 1,698,860,467 | NappyFlickz | k7eoyxs | k7eo19g | 283 | 1 |
CMV: If Fortnite cost money, it wouldn't be popular.
As far as I know, most people who play Fortnite are bored kids, since they tend to have a lot more free time than adults. These kids don't have any money, and they say, oh look, a free thing that's entertaining and I can waste time on! Fortnite is also a ripoff of o... | For reference I am 24 with a full time job and a daughter so I don't have a ton of free time. But I am addicted to Fortnite. I played PUBG before this but Fortnite is a whole new bread
>Fortnite is also a ripoff of other games (cough cough PUBG)
Yes, and no. Fortnite is a Battle royal game sure. PUBG wasn't the first... | Fortnite isn't "free," it's included with a PSPlus subscription, which costs money. People who have a PSPlus subscription usually have it to play games they have purchased online, so if someone is playing Fortnite, it stands to reason that they are someone who spends money on video games (not to mention PS4 costs a boa... | 86fwob | CMV: If Fortnite cost money, it wouldn't be popular. | As far as I know, most people who play Fortnite are bored kids, since they tend to have a lot more free time than adults. These kids don't have any money, and they say, oh look, a free thing that's entertaining and I can waste time on! Fortnite is also a ripoff of other games (cough cough PUBG). If Fortnite cost money,... | 1,521,759,270 | asdfasdf12312369 | dw5qzf7 | dw4qk78 | 1 | -1 |
CMV: A (non-English speaking) Head of State does not need to speak (or to know how to) English
Hello,
My girlfriend and I are arguing whether a head of a state (particularly ours which neither of us like just one bit) should possess the knowledge of the English language.
Our head of state does not speak English at ... | If that head of state intends to be a player on the global stage, being able to effectively communicate with the most powerful nations is essential. Being able to communicate in English already puts you on a better footing with the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and a lot of EU countries; if you intend for those nations to... | if it is in the USA or any country where the overwhelmingly vast majority of its peoples speak English, he/she will need to. a) he won't get elected and b) if he doesn't speak English, which the government is run in, he can't do anything | 5rwaja | CMV: A (non-English speaking) Head of State does not need to speak (or to know how to) English | Hello,
My girlfriend and I are arguing whether a head of a state (particularly ours which neither of us like just one bit) should possess the knowledge of the English language.
Our head of state does not speak English at all (aside from occasional "How are you"s) and I think he actually does not have to. He has to b... | 1,486,153,211 | kizilsakal | ddb3oet | ddaswfs | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens and those with the intent of breaking them will continue to do so.
**EDIT:** Because I've had to clarify in most of my replies, when I talk about gun control, I mean restriction, not regulation. And by restriction I mean the outright denial of ownership to any perso... | >People bent on committing these acts will find a way to do them and thinking that laws that only make you feel good will stop them is foolish.
I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, but the "criminals will just break the law" argument is terrible, and I wish gun advocates would stop using it.
Access matt... | >People bent on committing these acts will find a way to do them and thinking that laws that only make you feel good will stop them is foolish.
You're applying normal-person logic to pathological behavior. As a normal person, for you to go out and murder a bunch of people, you'd have to be probably the most motivated ... | 86col2 | CMV: Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens and those with the intent of breaking them will continue to do so. | **EDIT:** Because I've had to clarify in most of my replies, when I talk about gun control, I mean restriction, not regulation. And by restriction I mean the outright denial of ownership to any person. I do think that some regulation is good, but it should never soft ban or hard ban a person from owning a gun so long a... | 1,521,735,065 | myachizero | dw44cmu | dw43pye | 34 | 1 |
CMV: The death of Makiyah Bryant is a poor example of police brutality and systemic racism in the US.
The media is reporting the death of a black 16-year-old girl, Makiyah Bryant, by a white cop and associating it with the Chauvin verdict on the same day. The intent here is clear: to portray this as another incident o... | It really depends on what lens you're using to view her death. If we use a 'case by case' lens, to view every single case of a person of color is killed by a cop, and you'll find that the vast majority of them are justified.
However, when we use the lens of 'grand scheme of things' we'll see that the number of people... | While I agree with you that in this case the use of lethal force was justified in order to save another Citizen, there is more to consider.
First, we have to look at the incident and the aftermath. Directly after the incident occured, and with investigation still going on, the footage of the bodycam is released.
That ... | mvbr5s | CMV: The death of Makiyah Bryant is a poor example of police brutality and systemic racism in the US. | The media is reporting the death of a black 16-year-old girl, Makiyah Bryant, by a white cop and associating it with the Chauvin verdict on the same day. The intent here is clear: to portray this as another incident of police brutality and systemic racism.
However, shooting Makiyah Bryant was justified. She was lungin... | 1,618,996,381 | KoreanStudentDoctor | gvcswpr | gvcmvy0 | 8 | -4 |
CMV: it's okay to say the N-word when singing.
First of all, and let's get it out of the way: I'm a white Spaniard. This means that while I do understand the meaning of the n-word and what it was used for, I do lack a personal connection to it as it's not even a word in my language, I'm not black, and I'm not American... | I think because it still has it's power, then it'll always offend most people.
If we break it down it's silly because words are just words, but they have weight.
I've always wondered if maybe 200 years in the future people will be okay with anyone saying it, I doubt because of the nature of the word and the world rn, b... | By saying the word as part of a quote I would say you are casting a “social vote” that normalizes the use of the word even if it’s just a little bit. You say it (in a quote or song) and someone hears you, they now have one more example to draw on when thinking about how the word is used and that it can be used.
My sec... | mudkje | CMV: it's okay to say the N-word when singing. | First of all, and let's get it out of the way: I'm a white Spaniard. This means that while I do understand the meaning of the n-word and what it was used for, I do lack a personal connection to it as it's not even a word in my language, I'm not black, and I'm not American. Because of this lacking I'm very open for havi... | 1,618,875,263 | NouAlfa | gv580fg | gv57w8r | 1 | 0 |
CMV: This would be the ideal way Canada's parliament should be elected:
For those of you who don't know how Canada's political system works, the country is divided into 338 electoral districts (aka "ridings"). Each riding elects 1 person to represent them in parliament (aka "Member of Parliament") and all of the MPs v... | The problem with voting systems of this sort, is that it conflates parties with politicians.
Let's say you support party X in general, but there exists a single asshole whom you could never vote for. Let's say that person is third in line for your party. Under your system, as long as party X gets 6 percent or more of... | Local representation for the needs of millions seems like an oxymoron to me. Cities already have a city government that takes care of the needs of the city as a whole.
If you're gonna have a local representative, it really should be just a few blocks. That's people that you can actually know, have a feeling for the ne... | e0ugnb | CMV: This would be the ideal way Canada's parliament should be elected: | For those of you who don't know how Canada's political system works, the country is divided into 338 electoral districts (aka "ridings"). Each riding elects 1 person to represent them in parliament (aka "Member of Parliament") and all of the MPs vote on who will become the Prime Minister. (Although parties aren't menti... | 1,574,573,880 | TysonPlett | f8hj3ml | f8hirs1 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: we don’t actually know anyone
Our opinion of others is based on how they’ve managed to come across to us.
What if they’re a bad person, but have successfully managed to come across as nice in the few encounters you’ve had with them?
What if they’re a good person, but stumble on their words and constantly say ... | Knowledge comes in degrees doesn’t it? One can always know more, and one can always know less (having incorrect knowledge can make you know less than nothing).
Wouldn’t your qualifications work on every subject (except maybe math?) With scientific progress, were constantly finding out that basic fundamental beliefs we... | This is kind of so obviously true that it’s pointless to say. We cannot know everything about a person, even if we spent every waking minute with them, we could not be privy to every thought they have.
The thing is this is true for all knowledge. Everything is tentatively held as true. I don’t know that the world was... | mu26nx | CMV: we don’t actually know anyone | Our opinion of others is based on how they’ve managed to come across to us.
What if they’re a bad person, but have successfully managed to come across as nice in the few encounters you’ve had with them?
What if they’re a good person, but stumble on their words and constantly say the wrong thing, and come across as ... | 1,618,843,592 | bluemnm93 | gv37g4k | gv35yyv | 9 | 8 |
CMV: This would be the ideal way Canada's parliament should be elected:
For those of you who don't know how Canada's political system works, the country is divided into 338 electoral districts (aka "ridings"). Each riding elects 1 person to represent them in parliament (aka "Member of Parliament") and all of the MPs v... | The real problem is it creates ultra safe seats. You could have city elite politicians that sit at the top of their party list. Safe politicians tend to be the most corrupt as they have nothing to fear from their constituents.
Look south to any seat that goes uncontested or exist in an ultra partisan safe state like ... | You could do those things.
But OP doesn't actually mention any of those things. Therefore their system is not working yet. | e0ugnb | CMV: This would be the ideal way Canada's parliament should be elected: | For those of you who don't know how Canada's political system works, the country is divided into 338 electoral districts (aka "ridings"). Each riding elects 1 person to represent them in parliament (aka "Member of Parliament") and all of the MPs vote on who will become the Prime Minister. (Although parties aren't menti... | 1,574,573,880 | TysonPlett | f8p06r9 | f8jgtp0 | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Digital piracy is morally wrong.
First CMV post, so if there’s a problem please let me know!
To begin, note, I do not have a problem with sharing of files in such a way that only one person uses it at a time (lending).
Piracy is theft, and is not victimless. Putting aside the issue of whether or not breaking th... | >Piracy is theft
You're aware of the distinction so I won't go into it, but to be clear: If Piracy was theft, then we'd call it theft. We don't, because it's different.
>Money earned by a product is tied to supply and demand. The lower the supply/demand ratio, the higher the value (generally, obviously there’s more n... | Congrats on your first post! The only thing I would be mindful that by posting you're meant to be open to changing your view. The reason I personally tend to reply to others rather than submit my own CMVs. I feel like this is just something a lot of folks gloss over despite it being literally part of the second rule lo... | 86bbmp | CMV: Digital piracy is morally wrong. | First CMV post, so if there’s a problem please let me know!
To begin, note, I do not have a problem with sharing of files in such a way that only one person uses it at a time (lending).
Piracy is theft, and is not victimless. Putting aside the issue of whether or not breaking the law is morally wrong, piracy costs th... | 1,521,723,764 | CT-24601 | dw3puth | dw3p8c8 | 8 | 0 |
CMV: Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens and those with the intent of breaking them will continue to do so.
**EDIT:** Because I've had to clarify in most of my replies, when I talk about gun control, I mean restriction, not regulation. And by restriction I mean the outright denial of ownership to any perso... | >My thought is, evil has and always will exist.
>Rather, we should promote preparation for the inevitable rise of evil
"Evil" is a largely abstract and intangible entity whose definition is highly subjective and subject to interpretation. It certainly isn't something that can be actively addressed by laws. Despite w... | >People bent on committing these acts will find a way to do them and thinking that laws that only make you feel good will stop them is foolish.
You're applying normal-person logic to pathological behavior. As a normal person, for you to go out and murder a bunch of people, you'd have to be probably the most motivated ... | 86col2 | CMV: Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens and those with the intent of breaking them will continue to do so. | **EDIT:** Because I've had to clarify in most of my replies, when I talk about gun control, I mean restriction, not regulation. And by restriction I mean the outright denial of ownership to any person. I do think that some regulation is good, but it should never soft ban or hard ban a person from owning a gun so long a... | 1,521,735,065 | myachizero | dw47au8 | dw43pye | 2 | 1 |
CMV: A (non-English speaking) Head of State does not need to speak (or to know how to) English
Hello,
My girlfriend and I are arguing whether a head of a state (particularly ours which neither of us like just one bit) should possess the knowledge of the English language.
Our head of state does not speak English at ... | The UN has 6 official languages they should probably know at least one of those to serve functionally as any sort of diplomat. | Also, speaking a language can make you more culturally aware. I know when I speak a different language I act differently with different mannerisms. It’s hard for an interpreter to translate body language in real time.
| 5rwaja | CMV: A (non-English speaking) Head of State does not need to speak (or to know how to) English | Hello,
My girlfriend and I are arguing whether a head of a state (particularly ours which neither of us like just one bit) should possess the knowledge of the English language.
Our head of state does not speak English at all (aside from occasional "How are you"s) and I think he actually does not have to. He has to b... | 1,486,153,211 | kizilsakal | ddavw1t | ddauf93 | 11 | 1 |
CMV: Digital piracy is morally wrong.
First CMV post, so if there’s a problem please let me know!
To begin, note, I do not have a problem with sharing of files in such a way that only one person uses it at a time (lending).
Piracy is theft, and is not victimless. Putting aside the issue of whether or not breaking th... | It's not possible to say categorically "piracy is morally wrong". There are some scenarios in which it does harm, and some scenarios in which is doesn't. I want to give you an example of a scenario where it doesn't.
I've never pirated content as a substitute for buying it. In other words, none of the content I've pira... | >Piracy is theft
You're aware of the distinction so I won't go into it, but to be clear: If Piracy was theft, then we'd call it theft. We don't, because it's different.
>Money earned by a product is tied to supply and demand. The lower the supply/demand ratio, the higher the value (generally, obviously there’s more n... | 86bbmp | CMV: Digital piracy is morally wrong. | First CMV post, so if there’s a problem please let me know!
To begin, note, I do not have a problem with sharing of files in such a way that only one person uses it at a time (lending).
Piracy is theft, and is not victimless. Putting aside the issue of whether or not breaking the law is morally wrong, piracy costs th... | 1,521,723,764 | CT-24601 | dw3qt6v | dw3puth | 9 | 8 |
CMV: Boxing is barbaric and should be outlawed
My experience with boxing comes from stories on HBO's real sports and a roommate who is obsessed with it. Him and his friends who watch boxing with him celebrate the biggest knockouts and hardest punches. I just find the sport very barbaric as its intention is to hurt you... | So what if its barbaric? It's the boxer's choice to fight. It's the crowds choice to watch. No one is forcing them. And on top of that, boxing is fun! It's fun to fight, it's fun to push yourself to that edge and be in danger. It's fun to test yourself against another person.
Now as for the brain damage there is mor... | Boxing may be barbaric, but on what grounds should it be outlawed?
The participants are consenting adults that are practicing a martial art and are generally paid well if they are particularly skilled (unethical managers that take the winnings notwithstanding). They know what they are getting into.
Additionally, Box... | 5rvonf | CMV: Boxing is barbaric and should be outlawed | My experience with boxing comes from stories on HBO's real sports and a roommate who is obsessed with it. Him and his friends who watch boxing with him celebrate the biggest knockouts and hardest punches. I just find the sport very barbaric as its intention is to hurt your opponent to the point of knocking them out (so... | 1,486,147,221 | rain_parkour | ddaqkcf | ddapwik | 5 | 4 |
CMV: Nala from The Lion King is a Disney Princess.
Hello debaters! My daughter asked me who my favorite Disney Princess is and while I normally answer Anna from Frozen we watched TLK and I feel Nala is right up there.
She’s royalty. She’s in the end married to “The King” and she has a whole journey typical to a Disn... | I argue that Nala is a queen, not a princess. Nala is not born of Royalty. She was born from a Royal Guard. If we use nobility titles, she would be a Lady or Baronness. When she married Simba, Simba was king by them due to taking the throne from Scar through larger muscles diplomacy. So she became Queen Consort. She sk... | Yeah but your point was that you can't be a princess if you're not born into royalty ("[Nala] isn't the daughter of the queen, thus she isn't a princess"). I'm saying that you can still be a princess if you marry a prince/princess or queen. You'd technically be the queen if you married a king but disney "princess" is n... | b31tmc | CMV: Nala from The Lion King is a Disney Princess. | Hello debaters! My daughter asked me who my favorite Disney Princess is and while I normally answer Anna from Frozen we watched TLK and I feel Nala is right up there.
She’s royalty. She’s in the end married to “The King” and she has a whole journey typical to a Disney Princess even if she’s not the focus of the movie... | 1,553,024,320 | SamuraiJackBauer | eiwl2ys | eiwkbqh | 60 | 1 |
CMV: “A Bridge too Far” has the Best Cast of Any Movie Ever Made
For the sake of this discussion, I am defining the “best cast” as the largest collection of great actors who all starred in the same film. It’s not about the specific film, but rather the combined acting careers of everyone who appeared in a given film.... | It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
* Spencer Tracey
* Milton Berle
* Sid Caeser
* Buddy Hackett
* Ethel Merman
* Micky Rooney
* Jonathan Winters
* Buster Keaton
* Peter Falk
* Jimmy Durante
* Carl Reiner
* Jack Benny
* Don Knotts
And more. All of the premier comedic actors of the day and several big time non-comedic sta... | > simply list a better movie with a larger collection of long term stars. By my count it should have at least seven major stars, three secondary stars, and a famous director
Avengers endgame has 8 Oscar winners and 12 nominees. And the directors have two of the top ten grossing films ever. | 17ky39i | CMV: “A Bridge too Far” has the Best Cast of Any Movie Ever Made | For the sake of this discussion, I am defining the “best cast” as the largest collection of great actors who all starred in the same film. It’s not about the specific film, but rather the combined acting careers of everyone who appeared in a given film. The movie itself can be terrible for all I care.
Most movies ha... | 1,698,793,636 | SnaggiLittletoof | k7appzy | k7aowih | 31 | 4 |
CMV: American high schools need to stop funding sports
The purpose of school is to learn, not to play sports. People like to say that sports help to build teamwork skills, hard work, and leadership, but the fact is that it isn't mainly about that. Sports are mainly about winning. If sports were about building characte... | >The fact is that it doesn't do that
Source?
I ask because the research clearly proves that it DOES do all of the things you mention.
https://www.publicschoolreview.com/blog/10-reasons-why-high-school-sports-benefit-students
Sports keep students in better physical shape. They keep them out of trouble. They do teach... | Let me get this straight. You go to school and sit at a desk to do absolutely nothing, then you go home and do even more useless work until midnight, and you don’t think the school should offer some way for kids to stay healthy? | e1nsrw | CMV: American high schools need to stop funding sports | The purpose of school is to learn, not to play sports. People like to say that sports help to build teamwork skills, hard work, and leadership, but the fact is that it isn't mainly about that. Sports are mainly about winning. If sports were about building character, they would let anyone join. But they don't as the fac... | 1,574,720,186 | [deleted] | f8qo0e7 | f8qn6pr | 5 | 1 |
CMV: Double taxation of dividends should end
Per the title the double taxation of dividends should end. I think it's unfair and to a degree it encourages companies to avoid taxation.
After the change corporations should no longer have pay any taxes on profits paid out as dividends; any other profits kept they would.... | I think you're being overly dramatic to refer to it as "theft."
Theft has a specific meaning, and you can't just apply it at random to some taxes. If you believe *some* taxes are theft, why not all? After all, a lot of folks would claim that since theft means 'taking without permission' and they don't give the govern... | >It's accepted for the sake of maintaining corporate personhood.
But corporate personhood, isn't an argument that corporations are actually people, its an argument that people don't lose their rights when they form a group.
>As long as a corporation is considered a person, it stands to reason that it should be taxed... | ao4f08 | CMV: Double taxation of dividends should end | Per the title the double taxation of dividends should end. I think it's unfair and to a degree it encourages companies to avoid taxation.
After the change corporations should no longer have pay any taxes on profits paid out as dividends; any other profits kept they would.
Dividends should no longer be considered cap... | 1,549,550,672 | Haagen76 | efyb5ya | efya5ez | 12 | 0 |
CMV: The federal drinking age should be the same as the age at which we can enlist in the military.
Note: I am not saying that the drinking age should be 18. What I'm saying is that the age at which we can enlist in the military should be = the age we can drink alcohol. If that means both are 21, then so be it.
A co... | I don't think they should be correlated. First, some 18 year olds joining the military is different all 18 year olds drinking. An 18 year old in the military is trained, while an 18 year old drinking is not. An 18 year old in the military has guidance from experienced superiors at all times, versus the unsupervised act... | U.S. Army is not really all that dangerous.
Drinking and Driving is a significant higher cause of death than enrollment in U.S. military. So danger levels are not really comparable. | 6jhxz3 | CMV: The federal drinking age should be the same as the age at which we can enlist in the military. | Note: I am not saying that the drinking age should be 18. What I'm saying is that the age at which we can enlist in the military should be = the age we can drink alcohol. If that means both are 21, then so be it.
A common argument against the drinking age being 18 is that our brains are not yet fully developed (i.e. ... | 1,498,438,334 | jmd25 | djedl7c | djed8dw | 4 | 1 |
CMV: Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens and those with the intent of breaking them will continue to do so.
**EDIT:** Because I've had to clarify in most of my replies, when I talk about gun control, I mean restriction, not regulation. And by restriction I mean the outright denial of ownership to any perso... | >My thought is, evil has and always will exist. It is not something we can escape. People bent on committing these acts will find a way to do them and thinking that laws that only make you feel good will stop them is foolish.
It's not about "escaping", it's about mitigation. What way can our government keep our civil... | First, police will still need to treat every situation with the same amount of precaution, whether or not guns are banned. This is because we can't magically remove all guns from a country. People can make a gun in their garage. And the bad people *will* do this if they want to kill many people. Thus, police will need ... | 86col2 | CMV: Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens and those with the intent of breaking them will continue to do so. | **EDIT:** Because I've had to clarify in most of my replies, when I talk about gun control, I mean restriction, not regulation. And by restriction I mean the outright denial of ownership to any person. I do think that some regulation is good, but it should never soft ban or hard ban a person from owning a gun so long a... | 1,521,735,065 | myachizero | dw4cgo3 | dw450pd | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Conservative Policy Just Protects the Haves from the Have-Nots, and Leaves the Have-Nots out to Dry.
Throughout this post I will make sweeping generalisations that represent a majority, but not all people who are either left or right wing. I understand many people on the right-wing do support helping the less for... | Republicans are no longer representative of the "conservatives," I would say...I think most would agree.
I think the politicians are generally pretty corrupt, and both Dems and Reps are going to increase income inequality by grossly favoring big companies who buy legislation via lobbying campaigns and bribes...the dif... | I think charities could be much more effective if people were not so reliant of governmental assistance programs implemented by the left placing people into cycles of poverty they can't escape. If people become reliant on handouts, they will have no incentive to improve their situation. The purpose of aid programs shou... | 6jf27z | CMV: Conservative Policy Just Protects the Haves from the Have-Nots, and Leaves the Have-Nots out to Dry. | Throughout this post I will make sweeping generalisations that represent a majority, but not all people who are either left or right wing. I understand many people on the right-wing do support helping the less fortunate, but prefer doing it through extra-governmental means such as charity, I have no issue with them. My... | 1,498,406,494 | inoahsomeone | djds6l7 | djdrtn0 | 15 | 1 |
CMV: Banning firearms from places of worship in the US will have no efficacy, and possible negative outcomes
Pretty simple, I can't wrap my head around the idea of banning firearms from houses of worship as a means to reduce violence or make them safer. It seems completely separated from logic, but so many earnestly ... | > Mass shootings represent less than 1 percent of gun deaths. You know what is far more common - people argue, and arguments escalate, and someone draws a weapon.
> These sorts of incidents are far more common than Mass shootings, and kill far more people in total (though less in any given instance, which is why they ... | "The final issue is that having concealed carriers in a place of worship seems to be the only immediate solution "
This is always the line of thinking that gun advocates immediately turn to. Society is being ruined because of easy access to firearms? No problem, all we need to do is increase the number of people who... | b30098 | CMV: Banning firearms from places of worship in the US will have no efficacy, and possible negative outcomes | Pretty simple, I can't wrap my head around the idea of banning firearms from houses of worship as a means to reduce violence or make them safer. It seems completely separated from logic, but so many earnestly believe this as a solution that I figured it qualifies as a good CMV.
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Mass murderers are already wi... | 1,553,015,363 | MasterLJ | eiw7kub | eiw5wqy | 2 | -1 |
CMV: Attention to entertainment isn't justified
My first CMV post, so let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.
It is common to hear people discussing sports, TV shows, movies and books. So I assume that people care about entertainment a considerable amount, which I believe is unjustified because the outcomes of the e... | I'm confused by the implication that art doesn't affect people's lives in a meaningful way. Stories are as old as human civilization and art is even older than that. Stories communicate meaning about larger human themes, they touch people, make people feel less alone, evoke strong emotion, teach valuable lessons and op... | My view of the world tends to be exactly the opposite. Building pyramids is a huge waste of time and the only things really worth living for at all *are* entertainments. I work to live, I don't live to work.
Entertainments leave me fulfilled and culturally educated. Work leaves me drained and emotionally unavailable.... | 86d1gh | CMV: Attention to entertainment isn't justified | My first CMV post, so let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.
It is common to hear people discussing sports, TV shows, movies and books. So I assume that people care about entertainment a considerable amount, which I believe is unjustified because the outcomes of the entertainment source doesn't effect their life in ... | 1,521,737,608 | stringofsense | dw44gtx | dw44a82 | 4 | 3 |
CMV: Recycling Cans for $.05 isn't a good incentive across the board. If getting aluminum recycled is the goal, then a 1,000-10,000% tax deduction should be offered as an alternative.
I'm currently looking at 78 cans sitting in my hotel Room in Maine. I thought to myself "$3.90 is not worth my time to find a recycling... | It’s not a bad idea in theory but if the ultimate goal is to increase recycling across the board, we should offer greater tax incentives for organizations to bolster recycling efforts in various areas. I’ve lived in two areas with drastically different views toward recycling and going by your cleaning person example, i... | We don't have to settle on anything. I'm not a manager or politics adviser being paid to calculate the break even point. But that point where people don't throw it away and where manufacturers don't invent other packaging (this could be applied to all commercially sold drinks, no matter the packaging though) exists som... | ipp4rx | CMV: Recycling Cans for $.05 isn't a good incentive across the board. If getting aluminum recycled is the goal, then a 1,000-10,000% tax deduction should be offered as an alternative. | I'm currently looking at 78 cans sitting in my hotel Room in Maine. I thought to myself "$3.90 is not worth my time to find a recycling center and get paid, I hope the maids do it instead."
I make enough money that $3.90 is not worth the amount of time and effort it would take me to find a recycling center and get a c... | 1,599,685,443 | ChanceTheKnight | g4l8xqa | g4l8vnc | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Collectivism and identity politics based on gender or race tremendously bothers me. Thus, I cannot relate to the Democratic party
One thing to make clear. I don't believe every single Democrat engages in this line of thinking. However, of the people that do, they are almost universally Democrats (assuming they've... | Two very different kinds of things fall under the umbrella of "identity politics" depending on how you define it, one good and one toxic:
Good: The desire by people regardless of demographic to address systemic injustices that disproportionately affect specific demographics. This is MLK's identity politics, and Barack... | >My ideal society would be one in which gender and race simply don't matter.
Do you acknowledge that with or without the identity politics of the left, we absolutely don't live in that society? People usually engage in identity politicsbecause they think society is unfair to a certain group of people. I'm not saying t... | ao75qq | CMV: Collectivism and identity politics based on gender or race tremendously bothers me. Thus, I cannot relate to the Democratic party | One thing to make clear. I don't believe every single Democrat engages in this line of thinking. However, of the people that do, they are almost universally Democrats (assuming they've chosen a political party).
My ideal society would be one in which gender and race simply don't matter. No one would group themselves o... | 1,549,566,056 | ZeusThunder369 | efyv14a | efyr0fr | 14 | 1 |
CMV: Tipping should be illegal.
Customers pay for a product, employers pay for labour, and employees pay with time for money. That is the trifecta, that is how it has always been in everything every since the beginning of time.
Now with tipping becoming all the fucking rage, you got employers skimping on their respo... | No.
Instead of outlawing tipping. We should be putting regulations in place so workers in those industries can be paid fairly.
Why would you want to restrict me from giving a tip instead of restricting companies from underpaying their employees?
That makes no sense at all.
> Make that shit illegal
So in your world... | >Because if you DON’T make it illegal, it allows corporations to insidiously push the onus on the customer to pay for labour
The customer always pays for labor. Where do you think the corporation gets the money for wages? Not to mention, you are free to not tip. In the US AFAIK employers are legally required to make u... | 17kyzg9 | CMV: Tipping should be illegal. | Customers pay for a product, employers pay for labour, and employees pay with time for money. That is the trifecta, that is how it has always been in everything every since the beginning of time.
Now with tipping becoming all the fucking rage, you got employers skimping on their responsibilities of paying for labour ... | 1,698,796,190 | Da_SnowLeopard | k7b2l1r | k7b0e50 | 7 | 3 |
CMV: religion and traditions shouldn't have such a high regard as it has.
I do not believe that traditional values are important these days, religion even less. Some people may argue that religion enforces morale onto people but I think that doesn't have to be the case, as I've been raised with minimal acknowledge of ... | Is your argument that people, as individuals, should not have religion and tradition be an important part of their personal values? Or that countries, leaders, etc should not try to force said values upon others?
If it’s the latter, that’s one thing. But if your argument is the former, I think there’s a lot more to re... | While I've never been a religious person I am coming to a point where I see tremendous value in some traditions. When culture loses sight of the family structure the society begins to lose it's way. If the family unit becomes too disjointed then birth rates begin to fall, children grow up to become aimless, unprepared ... | 17ksj3o | CMV: religion and traditions shouldn't have such a high regard as it has. | I do not believe that traditional values are important these days, religion even less. Some people may argue that religion enforces morale onto people but I think that doesn't have to be the case, as I've been raised with minimal acknowledge of religion.
In my humble opinion, both of the mentioned values put people aw... | 1,698,778,827 | spooktherock | k79ovay | k79mz57 | 9 | 2 |
CMV: It’s wrong of businesses to ask me to tip for counter service
I’ll start by saying that I think tipping culture as a whole in the US sucks. Employee wages should not be subsidized with tips, employees should just but paid fair wages to begin with.
I’ve noticed this trend over the last few years where food shops... | In the past, my view was that if the counter employees had to do a significant amount of extra work to get my order, then I would consider a tip. For example, if I ordered a regular coffee that just required pouring, no tip. If I order a more complex coffee drink (like the skim latte I ordered this morning on my walk),... | You should tip “these people” because wages need to be subsidized as you already know. If you don’t want to tip, then call your legislators and demand that people be paid a living wage for their work.
Or
Make yourself your own food. | mtz0zb | CMV: It’s wrong of businesses to ask me to tip for counter service | I’ll start by saying that I think tipping culture as a whole in the US sucks. Employee wages should not be subsidized with tips, employees should just but paid fair wages to begin with.
I’ve noticed this trend over the last few years where food shops that only offer counter service have been asking for tips. Places l... | 1,618,833,563 | jdbuck99 | gv2ntu5 | gv2ne0s | 676 | -9 |
CMV: I'm not "X" but... Does NOT mean that you are racist/homophobe/etc...
I usually see people saying that you are either "X" or "Y" type or person (aka, you are racist or you are not, you are classist or you are not, etc etc). And also, when one goes "I'm not X but..." they get silenced inmedately and are accused of... | To quote Ned Stark, any words someone says before the word but, don't really count.
The only reason you would ever say "I'm not X, but" is when you are about to say something you know is probably racist.
>What if the person has a trauma or passed trough a horrible experience?
Having an understandable reason for hold... | If you say "I'm not X but...", then the following is going to be X, otherwise there's no need to say "I'm not X". For exmaple, nobody is going to say "I'm not X but, I'm Y". If you are not X, then don't be X.
> What if the person has a trauma or passed trough a horrible experience?
So? Racism caused by personal traum... | ips54q | CMV: I'm not "X" but... Does NOT mean that you are racist/homophobe/etc... | I usually see people saying that you are either "X" or "Y" type or person (aka, you are racist or you are not, you are classist or you are not, etc etc). And also, when one goes "I'm not X but..." they get silenced inmedately and are accused of being the kind of person that they claim not to be. But that doesn't allow ... | 1,599,695,506 | Blubari | g4lozqy | g4loz8j | 32 | 3 |
CMV: Radical feminists are wasting effort on stupid stuff to the detriment of feminism as a whole
I believe that radical feminists and other fringe groups hold biased views that focus on the wrong things and contribute in an unproductive way to feminism. I agree with many of the ideas of feminism, even though I would ... | I think you're using "radical" in the place of "extreme" here, which is troublesome as radical feminism is its own distinct ideology, associated with viewing womanhood through a vaguely marxist and essentialist lens. radical feminists often disregard transgender women entirely, its some intersectional feminists (not mo... | That stuff (or I'll say stuff of that significance, not necessarily the specific stuff you listed) **is** a large part of "feminism as a whole" these days. Feminism has already won the vast majority of the biggest battles it was originally created to fight. Theres still a handful of big (or at least bigger) ticket item... | b2z7p5 | CMV: Radical feminists are wasting effort on stupid stuff to the detriment of feminism as a whole | I believe that radical feminists and other fringe groups hold biased views that focus on the wrong things and contribute in an unproductive way to feminism. I agree with many of the ideas of feminism, even though I would not identify as such. But strands of fringe feminism, in which I’m including traditional radical fe... | 1,553,011,476 | AntiFascist_Waffle | eiw5uqk | eiw0vqq | 3 | 0 |
CMV: Attention to entertainment isn't justified
My first CMV post, so let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.
It is common to hear people discussing sports, TV shows, movies and books. So I assume that people care about entertainment a considerable amount, which I believe is unjustified because the outcomes of the e... |
The entertainment industry has effectively replaced mythology and religion as the means by which a society establishes its sense of morality and its ethical norms. We engage with and criticize art and entertainment because we are interested in exploring the complications of morality itself. We take it in, we proces... | Well I can certainly tell you’re left-brained, which is totally okay. I just think it’s a little unfair to call it unjustified however. To the people invested in those movies and books and songs, it’s their life. It affects our perspective. If something can help someone regardless of if it’s a tool or a song or a book,... | 86d1gh | CMV: Attention to entertainment isn't justified | My first CMV post, so let me know if I'm doing anything wrong.
It is common to hear people discussing sports, TV shows, movies and books. So I assume that people care about entertainment a considerable amount, which I believe is unjustified because the outcomes of the entertainment source doesn't effect their life in ... | 1,521,737,608 | stringofsense | dw43jnc | dw43dhk | 12 | 1 |
CMV: Everybody Likes Mayonnaise
There is a meme going around on Twitter of posting your most controversial food opinion. I figured I would do so here.
Everyone likes mayonnaise. It is a delicious combination of fat, acidity, and salt, [three of the four elements of good cooking in one condiment.](https://www.amazon... | Some people with AFRID or other people who hate slimy textures may not like mayonaise. If you cannot get over the texture of a food, liking its components that, in other contexts, have different textures, won't change this. I know somebody who avoids *any* kind of thick sauce or dip (humnus, mayo, aioli, ketchup, must... | > A key property of mayo is that it is a bit sour tasting
Exactly, that's why I don't like it. I don't like the combination of sour and fries / burgers / sandwiches, which is kinda the main use case of mayo.
> Is it an objection to the color?
No, just a lot of white sauces have a vinegar touch to it. Of course there... | e0ztgq | CMV: Everybody Likes Mayonnaise | There is a meme going around on Twitter of posting your most controversial food opinion. I figured I would do so here.
Everyone likes mayonnaise. It is a delicious combination of fat, acidity, and salt, [three of the four elements of good cooking in one condiment.](https://www.amazon.com/Salt-Fat-Acid-Heat-Mastering... | 1,574,609,190 | huadpe | f8kiydd | f8keqvv | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Religious beliefs are essentially opinions and should not be given more weight than any other type of belief or opinion.
In the US, there are various exceptions and accommodations for religious beliefs. For instance, Catholic hospitals do not have to directly provide birth control and can instead sign a waiver wi... | Deeply held beliefs that don't work against the public good are a solid reason to create exemptions in both the laws and the social expectations that society puts on individuals, but the obvious flaw in allowing these exceptions is the ease with which a person can lie about what they believe. Normally, religious belief... | Refusing to bake a cake is one thing, I don't think too many people would want a wedding cake baked by someone who hates you. It's quite another thing if it's legal to discriminate in things like employment and housing. If discrimiantion based on race became a thing again I am sure people would not agree with it. Why s... | 5rwoki | CMV: Religious beliefs are essentially opinions and should not be given more weight than any other type of belief or opinion. | In the US, there are various exceptions and accommodations for religious beliefs. For instance, Catholic hospitals do not have to directly provide birth control and can instead sign a waiver with the actual birth control being supplied by a third party.
The Trump Administration is currently considering granting additi... | 1,486,157,213 | thats-rickdiculous | ddb0emz | ddawk4b | 27 | 3 |
CMV on sanctions on Russia and having Trumps view of Russian foreign policy
I am having a tough time here because I am vehemently anti-Trump in pretty much every way, but I can see his point for wanting to have a good relationship with Russia.
To clarify, my motivation for wanting a good relationship with Russia is ... | Russia's interests are in direct conflict with the interests of the United States. The basis of US foreign policy is that all world governments should strive towards democracy and that the US should use it's extensive power to protect democracy. Russia's actions under the leadership of Vladimir Putin are a threat to th... | I guess one side of the whole issue with America's Russian relationship and the sanctions is that it can be seen as though we are letting them off with just a light slap on the wrist. It's not that we, or at least most people, hate Russia, it's just that some people feel that they need to be held accountable for their ... | 5rv5y8 | CMV on sanctions on Russia and having Trumps view of Russian foreign policy | I am having a tough time here because I am vehemently anti-Trump in pretty much every way, but I can see his point for wanting to have a good relationship with Russia.
To clarify, my motivation for wanting a good relationship with Russia is most likely very different from Trumps (I assume that his is financial and sp... | 1,486,142,143 | arewehavingfun | ddatwwq | ddasmi2 | 6 | 2 |
CMV: Technology is making our society more antisocial
My main premise is quite simple: technology makes it easier for us to obtain what we want without having to make any human contact with others. Whether it’s talking to someone through text or watching porn instead putting yourself out there and actually interacting... | I'm going to assume you mean like physically anti social because i think it has dedi Italy increased people's ability to communicate especially with the anonymity factor.
As an observation, I'm not sure that it makes us anti-social but what I think it does is magnify the tendencies people already have. For example, if... | One thing that I think is rarely mentioned, is that not all social interaction is meaningful, nurturing interaction. Some can be superficial, or even quite harmful. I think that by giving people a temporary fix, through technology, it allows people to hold out for more meaningful relationships. Have you ever known a te... | 868iiz | CMV: Technology is making our society more antisocial | My main premise is quite simple: technology makes it easier for us to obtain what we want without having to make any human contact with others. Whether it’s talking to someone through text or watching porn instead putting yourself out there and actually interacting with the opposite gender, it seems to me that because ... | 1,521,688,807 | monkeymalek | dw402zy | dw3kiee | 2 | 1 |
CMV: LSD is kinda dumb in some ways.
To preface: I've talked about this with friends and they always say, 'you can't talk about LSD without experiencing it.' And I haven't, but my problem with it lies when your trip is over and you are back with us mortals, hallucinogenic drugs should be researched more for medical pu... | >I hear a lot of people who take LSD once a week or more, and think they're bettering themselves while they could very well be hurting their bodies in ways that isn't very researched compared to other drugs.
Sure, LSD can be abused, but I think the average person's abuse it is going to last less than a few months. It'... | LSD can be harmful, it can be abused, people can use it to escape and hide from reality (although have to be very active doing that, otherwise your demons make it quite hard to do that).
Some people see how their life could be better and then don't change, but as with literally any way of learning and improving yourse... | ao9w7k | CMV: LSD is kinda dumb in some ways. | To preface: I've talked about this with friends and they always say, 'you can't talk about LSD without experiencing it.' And I haven't, but my problem with it lies when your trip is over and you are back with us mortals, hallucinogenic drugs should be researched more for medical purposes under medical doses to help peo... | 1,549,580,778 | GeorgiaOKeefeModel | efzcyhj | efzbyi2 | 7 | 6 |
CMV: Everyone should be watching Steven Crowder's "Change My Mind" series
I think it is the pinnacle of discourse about important issues in our society. Regardless of whether you disagree with the point of view of the host, the discussions are held in a respectful manner and really delve into the content of each persp... | There are other great sources like this. One of the ones I love is [intelligence squared debates](https://www.intelligencesquaredus.org/podcasts).
> Rather than three-minute clips of talking heads and pundits, these conversations are expansive and with real, everyday people.
What's the advantage of talking with "re... | Getting access to inteligenct discourse is really important to me.
I've been pretty happy reading posts on this sub, and I also listen to a lot of Joe Rogan. I like JR because he doesn't impose his views onto his guests and he talks for a long time in a great deal of depths. Lots of his guests aren't that interestin... | b30tca | CMV: Everyone should be watching Steven Crowder's "Change My Mind" series | I think it is the pinnacle of discourse about important issues in our society. Regardless of whether you disagree with the point of view of the host, the discussions are held in a respectful manner and really delve into the content of each perspective in a substantive manner.
Rather than three-minute clips of talking... | 1,553,019,308 | blender_head | eiwb4nx | eiwb4fn | 9 | -1 |
CMV on sanctions on Russia and having Trumps view of Russian foreign policy
I am having a tough time here because I am vehemently anti-Trump in pretty much every way, but I can see his point for wanting to have a good relationship with Russia.
To clarify, my motivation for wanting a good relationship with Russia is ... | Well, let's first clarify that there are multiple sanctions for multiple reasons. We banned Russian agents/diplomatic staff from the country in response to their espionage. Reversing that, you're right, may be purely symbolic.
But the bigger issue are sanctions on their economy, and transactions through U.S firms an... | well I agree with your view :P | 5rv5y8 | CMV on sanctions on Russia and having Trumps view of Russian foreign policy | I am having a tough time here because I am vehemently anti-Trump in pretty much every way, but I can see his point for wanting to have a good relationship with Russia.
To clarify, my motivation for wanting a good relationship with Russia is most likely very different from Trumps (I assume that his is financial and sp... | 1,486,142,143 | arewehavingfun | ddavuv6 | ddav5u4 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Sexuality Labels Actually Work Against Progressive Ideals
I was reading an article the other day by an elderly gentleman self-described as 'gay' in The Spectator (a UK publication) and it significantly piqued my interest. In it, he talks about growing up in the fifties and noticing the shifting attitudes toward s... | There's no need to adopt a label, to have it be a large part of your identity, to have an elaborate coming out process. Some people choose to do so, presumably because they find it preferable in some way. You don't notice all the people who don't, because there's nothing much to notice.
That LGBTQ folks have only beco... | Ah yes it was considered totally normal to be attracted to any gender in the victorian age, which is why it was illegal to be homosexual and whats more the laws were actually carried out like with oscar wilde. | ipoa2b | CMV: Sexuality Labels Actually Work Against Progressive Ideals | I was reading an article the other day by an elderly gentleman self-described as 'gay' in The Spectator (a UK publication) and it significantly piqued my interest. In it, he talks about growing up in the fifties and noticing the shifting attitudes toward sexuality over his lifetime.
What really caught my interest was... | 1,599,682,851 | Farns4 | g4l0272 | g4kzdyb | 5 | 3 |
CMV: Digital piracy is morally wrong.
First CMV post, so if there’s a problem please let me know!
To begin, note, I do not have a problem with sharing of files in such a way that only one person uses it at a time (lending).
Piracy is theft, and is not victimless. Putting aside the issue of whether or not breaking th... | Hey, nice post! I'm going to try to address a few of your statements to see if I can get you looking at things a different way. Never done this before, so bear with me.
>Piracy is theft, and is not victimless.
I see where you are coming from, but theft implies taking something that belongs to someone else. By *copyi... | I'm not OP, and not even sure I agree with him, but I've done a bit of reading on behavioral economics and I'm pretty dubious of some of these claims. For example:
>none of the content I've pirated represents a loss of potential revenue for the content creators because I wasn't going to buy it anyway.
How can you be ... | 86bbmp | CMV: Digital piracy is morally wrong. | First CMV post, so if there’s a problem please let me know!
To begin, note, I do not have a problem with sharing of files in such a way that only one person uses it at a time (lending).
Piracy is theft, and is not victimless. Putting aside the issue of whether or not breaking the law is morally wrong, piracy costs th... | 1,521,723,764 | CT-24601 | dw3ysbh | dw3vl8b | 16 | 5 |
CMV: Sexuality Labels Actually Work Against Progressive Ideals
I was reading an article the other day by an elderly gentleman self-described as 'gay' in The Spectator (a UK publication) and it significantly piqued my interest. In it, he talks about growing up in the fifties and noticing the shifting attitudes toward s... | I, as a gay man, was not "just casually dating whomever" before I met my fiance. I am attracted to guys. That is a fact about who I am. Its not going to change. Frankly, I resent the notion that I should represent myself otherwise. I am not open to dating women, and I resent the idea that I'm less progressive because o... | > What if we still regarded homosexuality as an activity rather than an identity?
Then hateful people would get to pretend they don't hate persons, they just "disagree with their choices"
This isn't a hypothetical btw, it's currently happening in some places
As for the idea that labels can be restrictive, as you m... | ipoa2b | CMV: Sexuality Labels Actually Work Against Progressive Ideals | I was reading an article the other day by an elderly gentleman self-described as 'gay' in The Spectator (a UK publication) and it significantly piqued my interest. In it, he talks about growing up in the fifties and noticing the shifting attitudes toward sexuality over his lifetime.
What really caught my interest was... | 1,599,682,851 | Farns4 | g4l1bp4 | g4l079f | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Queer is a useless term
Queer is a useless term in the gay community
I don’t understand the use of queer over an actual sexuality. It has no set meaning and tells people absolutely nothing about your sexuality.
I’ve seen a polyamorous couple, AFAB nonbinary people strictly attracted to men, bisexual and gay pe... | > people tend to use it as a catchall term for the L//G/B//T community
What's wrong with that? In fact, having a "miscellaneous" option makes sense, given how sexuality and gender is such a gray area these days.
Basically, it's no less descriptive than "Republican" or "democrat" are inherently descriptive terms. Even... | I think the use of "queer" is a way of "taking back" the word that was used against them in the past, in the same way as the n-word is used today. It's important to note that the word applied to pretty much all the LGBT community. For all your examples, each person fits into the larger LGBTQ+ community perhaps with the... | e120fa | CMV: Queer is a useless term | Queer is a useless term in the gay community
I don’t understand the use of queer over an actual sexuality. It has no set meaning and tells people absolutely nothing about your sexuality.
I’ve seen a polyamorous couple, AFAB nonbinary people strictly attracted to men, bisexual and gay people call themselves queer so ... | 1,574,618,780 | bigswampgoblin | f8lez99 | f8l7xyb | 12 | 1 |
CMV: Bands/record labels should make their old videos available in higher resolutions
This is mostly a pet peeve, but I hate it when I go to watch an old music video and see it has been loaded onto YouTube at a max resolution of like 360 or 480 (I'm sure there's probably older ones even lower than that.
These videos ... | Highly depends on the recording medium. If something was recorded on video you will never get the resolutions that can be achieved by scanning 35mm film stock.
At a certain point in history a lot of stuff was shot directly on video because it was meant for TV. For the same reason you can get ridiculously high resolut... | Are you suggesting the refilm everything exactly how it was? That's an enormous amount of work. Or are you suggesting they can simply choose a higher resolution? That's not true for many videos. Digital videos cannot be upscaled like that. | e0x4en | CMV: Bands/record labels should make their old videos available in higher resolutions | This is mostly a pet peeve, but I hate it when I go to watch an old music video and see it has been loaded onto YouTube at a max resolution of like 360 or 480 (I'm sure there's probably older ones even lower than that.
These videos exist at a higher quality and were only loaded at that quality due to the limits of the... | 1,574,593,012 | CraigThomas1984 | f8j3h8s | f8j3cwv | 8 | 1 |
CMV: Now is probably not the time for historically-repressed groups to seek for their rights.
Historically-repressed groups: exactly what it means: women, ethnic/racial/religious minorities (not necessarily **numerical** minorities, just ask South Africa), people with disabilities, resident foreigners and LGBT people.... | So, if not now - when? There is never a good time to disrupt the social order to fight for what is right. There will always be a crisis, a despot, an event that many will feel is too important and must be solved first. People in power, who will be disrupted by groups striving for equality, will always feel that this... | What rights do these oppressed groups still lack? | ao5dpj | CMV: Now is probably not the time for historically-repressed groups to seek for their rights. | Historically-repressed groups: exactly what it means: women, ethnic/racial/religious minorities (not necessarily **numerical** minorities, just ask South Africa), people with disabilities, resident foreigners and LGBT people.
This may not apply to some groups or some countries. These are some of the reasons why I'm st... | 1,549,556,344 | garaile64 | efyakti | efy9xyb | 26 | -4 |
CMV: Collectivism and identity politics based on gender or race tremendously bothers me. Thus, I cannot relate to the Democratic party
One thing to make clear. I don't believe every single Democrat engages in this line of thinking. However, of the people that do, they are almost universally Democrats (assuming they've... | You don't think the Republican Party practices collectivism and identity politics based on gender or race?
[Allow me to retort.](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/17b7f4c81f0722f4e0af64d96598ee9947dc5404/0_0_2473_3014/master/2473.jpg?width=1920&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=fcd1a64fa453961811e24685be96bd9d)
| One thing to consider is that Trumpian Republicanism is likely a reaction to the Democrats' shift towards immutable-trait-based identity politics. | ao75qq | CMV: Collectivism and identity politics based on gender or race tremendously bothers me. Thus, I cannot relate to the Democratic party | One thing to make clear. I don't believe every single Democrat engages in this line of thinking. However, of the people that do, they are almost universally Democrats (assuming they've chosen a political party).
My ideal society would be one in which gender and race simply don't matter. No one would group themselves o... | 1,549,566,056 | ZeusThunder369 | efz8m93 | efys88b | 8 | 0 |
CMV: Socialism and Capitalism are much less important than democracy and checks on power
There is no pure Socialism or pure Capitalism anyway. Neither can exist practically in a pure form. It's just a spectrum. There have to be some things run by the state and some kind of regulated free market. Finding the right bal... | In order to keep checks on power and democracy, wealth must be more evenly distributed. Individuals with great wealth have a disproportionate influence on the democratic system. Advertising to the public, lobbying to democratic institutions, funding politicians, etc. All this influence chips away at the core principles... | Apples and oranges.
Socialism and Capitalism are terms that discuss economic systems, while democracy is a governance system. The two are unrelated to one another - you can have democratic capitalism or democratic socialism, same as you can have a dictatorial version of both.
Discussing the merits of why one economi... | 17kmpqv | CMV: Socialism and Capitalism are much less important than democracy and checks on power | There is no pure Socialism or pure Capitalism anyway. Neither can exist practically in a pure form. It's just a spectrum. There have to be some things run by the state and some kind of regulated free market. Finding the right balance is mainly a pragmatic exercise. The important items that seem to always get conflate... | 1,698,763,561 | TomGNYC | k78jof4 | k78isff | 36 | 7 |
CMV: Someone who is sexually attracted to only fictional underage characters, and will never have sex with a real underage girl out of choice, should not be treated as a risk.
I feel like people who can be sexually attracted to underage characters only from fiction and who wholly acknowledge that real-life underage se... | > I feel like people who can be sexually attracted to underage characters only from fiction and who wholly acknowledge that real-life underage sex/child rape is a major problem and will never have sex with a real-life child should not be seen as a risk to children by anyone.
Two issues:
1) How do other people even kn... | fiction is such a broad term. are you talking about characters from children's cartoons, novels, hentai, live-action media? are these characters underage and appear as such or are you including teenagers played by people in their mid-20s? | 6jhf5g | CMV: Someone who is sexually attracted to only fictional underage characters, and will never have sex with a real underage girl out of choice, should not be treated as a risk. | I feel like people who can be sexually attracted to underage characters only from fiction and who wholly acknowledge that real-life underage sex/child rape is a major problem and will never have sex with a real-life child should not be seen as a risk to children by anyone.
That is, they understand all the possible neg... | 1,498,432,330 | [deleted] | djea38b | dje9wek | 4 | 1 |
CMV: Kurt Cobain is the most overrated musician ever
Seriously why do Nirvana fans act like this guy is some mastermind songwriter and guitarist? He was gifted with being a left-handed player with a unique, gritty tone to his voice, but that's literally it. Nirvana songs consist of nothing more than a simple 3 or 4-ch... | Difficulty of playing something at the level of hand-eye-coordination doesn't necessarily relate to quality of music. Tony Iommi is a great example - much of Black Sabbath sounds great and is simple to play.
Of course, simple to play the right notes and simple to play with the right feel are different, so there's nuan... | Well then you have just highlighted the reason all discussions about whether or not something is overrated is dumb. The entire concept suggests there is some objective standard about how good something is and also that you have an objective way to measure how good everyone thinks it is. I don't think it's possible to c... | mtt7i8 | CMV: Kurt Cobain is the most overrated musician ever | Seriously why do Nirvana fans act like this guy is some mastermind songwriter and guitarist? He was gifted with being a left-handed player with a unique, gritty tone to his voice, but that's literally it. Nirvana songs consist of nothing more than a simple 3 or 4-chord progression with a harmonic melody.
Why is Kurt p... | 1,618,807,221 | orangebellywash | gv1rcat | gv1rb8l | 10 | 2 |
CMV: Lebron's fall from grace will be the worst of any "Top Level" NBA star
With the Jordan vs Lebron discussion finally put to bed and the twilight of Lebron's career upon us, its becoming clear that Lebron's fall from grace will not be pretty. Jordan for example did not have much of a fall from grace. Even his brief... | As I mentioned it doesn't seem like he has a viable out. He lost the opportunity to end on a high note when he left Cleveland. Now he's older on a worse team, stronger conference and directly in the shadow of Lakers greats. He will probably still be a good player but I don't see any chance of wining a championship in t... | Fall from *what* grace? Lebron has been widely hated since he took his talents to South Beach a decade ago. Since then, he's been hopscotching around the country trying to get other people to help him win more NBA championships. Yay?
How many freaking NBA championships would have Michael Jordan won if he decided ... | b2zs2t | CMV: Lebron's fall from grace will be the worst of any "Top Level" NBA star | With the Jordan vs Lebron discussion finally put to bed and the twilight of Lebron's career upon us, its becoming clear that Lebron's fall from grace will not be pretty. Jordan for example did not have much of a fall from grace. Even his brief and underwhelming stint in baseball or the over the hill era with the Wizard... | 1,553,014,267 | beengrim32 | eiw74nk | eiw6n71 | 0 | -1 |
CMV: It’s wrong of businesses to ask me to tip for counter service
I’ll start by saying that I think tipping culture as a whole in the US sucks. Employee wages should not be subsidized with tips, employees should just but paid fair wages to begin with.
I’ve noticed this trend over the last few years where food shops... | There is a particular niche situation which I think you should consider and that's shops which double as community hubs which are trying to promote a social good. Café's and places like that which are inclusive and encourage social gatherings while promoting a wide range of programs and services that'd be useful to the... | I would say that it IS wrong for companies to exploit social inclinations to subsidize pay in this way. Tipping has been shown repeatedly to be at best very loosely correlated to quality of service and much more prone to be based on things like gender and race. It is perfectly legal now, and I agree that companies th... | mtz0zb | CMV: It’s wrong of businesses to ask me to tip for counter service | I’ll start by saying that I think tipping culture as a whole in the US sucks. Employee wages should not be subsidized with tips, employees should just but paid fair wages to begin with.
I’ve noticed this trend over the last few years where food shops that only offer counter service have been asking for tips. Places l... | 1,618,833,563 | jdbuck99 | gv30ulh | gv2wogs | 21 | 2 |
CMV: It is cruel and selfish to ghost people that you no longer want in your life
This is a sweeping statement, and in my mind applies to any kind of interpersonal relationship: familial, romantic, friendly. I want to clarify a few common counterpoints.
1. This viewpoint does not apply in relationships that were abus... | I'd disagree, being on the receiving end of this (maybe). I'm in recovery right now, and I recently went on a trip to the city I lived in before I got sober and reached out to one of my closest friends there, who's still drinking and using. I knew this, I'm used to being around drinking especially in recovery, and made... | What if youre the shitty person(or just someone that your friend doesnt need in their life) and you dont want to continue being a bad influence on a naive friend that looks up to you? and each time you try to explain this, the naive friend thinks youre just being cool or that you dont mean it, and it only makes them wa... | anfhjf | CMV: It is cruel and selfish to ghost people that you no longer want in your life | This is a sweeping statement, and in my mind applies to any kind of interpersonal relationship: familial, romantic, friendly. I want to clarify a few common counterpoints.
1. This viewpoint does not apply in relationships that were abusive.
2. I define "ghosting" as suddenly ceasing all communication without *sufficie... | 1,549,382,466 | ququqachu | eftjapy | eft7fvq | 1 | 0 |
CMV: I think "following your dreams" is bad advice to give kids.
I think the "following your dreams" mentality breeds entitlement, where young people won't put forth their full effort in a job that isn't their "dream". They think that whatever job they have is beneath them and therefore isn't worthy of honest day's w... | I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding the concept of the "follow your dreams" mentality. It's not about feeling entitled to stardom but to not give up on yourself and to be willing to reach for greatness even if we can't all get there. Many of humanity's greatest achievements started as dreams. Also not all dr... | Of course we should be teaching children how to be responsible citizens and care for those in their community. These things are not at all incompatible with teaching them to follow their dreams.
Where you lose me completely is in your last line:
>instead of following your "dreams" ... [be a] productive member of soc... | 6q6saw | CMV: I think "following your dreams" is bad advice to give kids. | I think the "following your dreams" mentality breeds entitlement, where young people won't put forth their full effort in a job that isn't their "dream". They think that whatever job they have is beneath them and therefore isn't worthy of honest day's work. Or worse, if their dream is unrealistic or not possible due t... | 1,501,276,159 | 3_C_P_O | dkvanqa | dkv2vo9 | 29 | 11 |
CMV: Tech gives the best work-life balance
Out of every industry I feel like tech yields the best work-life balance. Here are my reasons why:
- Any job in the tech sector tends to pay well. [The median annual wage for computer and information technology occupations was $97,430 in May 2021](https://www.bls.gov/ooh/com... | You're entire premise is flawed, from the idea of work/life balance. Work is apart of your life. If you're caught thinking that you only have access to 'life' outside of your work, you've taught yourself to hate your work, even subconsciously. | I mean, is it really surprising that private employers who actually have a monetary reason to accomplish things have more expectations than a federal job? | 10tp8dp | CMV: Tech gives the best work-life balance | Out of every industry I feel like tech yields the best work-life balance. Here are my reasons why:
- Any job in the tech sector tends to pay well. [The median annual wage for computer and information technology occupations was $97,430 in May 2021](https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/home.htm), ... | 1,675,539,697 | humvee911 | j78h18d | j78g24o | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Political parties are unpatriotic and go against the constitution (American)
Imo political parties have no place in Democracy and as we see in modern US, it causes citizens to vote for "the lesser of two evils" and feel pressured to be either Democrat or Republican. While I don't think voting either way is necess... | If you don't want political parties, I'm sorry, but that's not reasonable. People who want similar things will naturally come together and organize themselves towards a common purpose. This happens even in countries where political parties (or more than one party) are illegal. Organization is a natural part of politics... | I sense that your issue with the parties can be expressed in a better way.
I understand what you are saying as "The virtues upheld by Americans are not represented by any of the existing political parties". But that's an assumption as to whether Americans really uphold these virtues as you think or not. Therefore, per... | io6nam | CMV: Political parties are unpatriotic and go against the constitution (American) | Imo political parties have no place in Democracy and as we see in modern US, it causes citizens to vote for "the lesser of two evils" and feel pressured to be either Democrat or Republican. While I don't think voting either way is necessarily bad, supporting with donations, signs, convincing others to vote, etc. Goes a... | 1,599,482,114 | TejCrescendo | g4e6gjn | g4dtnye | 2 | 1 |
CMV: I think it's okay for multiple definitions of the word "atheism" to exist in the world
The FAQ of the r/atheism defines atheism as a lack of belief in god(s). The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (SEP) favors [defining atheism](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/) as the belief in no god(s)... | I think the big problem here is that I see the definition of the word "Atheism" as an active battleground between atheists who want to use it to define themselves and the religious who want to use it to denigrate the non-religious.
The core of the religious argument here is that "Atheists believe in no gods and they c... | I completly disagree. Multiple definitions of a term are nothing but confusing and do not help any conversation about the topic. Sure it would be interesting to see why the different definitions exist but people have to agree on a definition before talking about something.
For atheism especially the two definitions ar... | e102rf | CMV: I think it's okay for multiple definitions of the word "atheism" to exist in the world | The FAQ of the r/atheism defines atheism as a lack of belief in god(s). The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (SEP) favors [defining atheism](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/) as the belief in no god(s). Both the FAQ and the SEP acknowledge that there are multiple definitions of the word in use... | 1,574,610,409 | Dan_Today | f8kqcqv | f8kpc2b | 42 | 2 |
CMV: 'Improved dialogue' won't solve political division
Since the 2016 election in the US, there's been a series of articles where liberals have visited pro Trump areas as if they were exploring a foreign country. They normally depict these journeys as neccessary to increase the amount of inter party discussion that t... | [This study](http://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6282/220), from the April 2016 issue of science, demonstrates in a randomized controlled trial that interacting with canvassers drastically reduced transphobia and increased support for anti-discrimination laws among those surveyed that were encouraged to "activel... | I could be mistaken, but most of the things I have seen about talking to people who "voted for the other side" seem to be more about showing that the other side is a collection of individuals who all have their own ideas, and about showing that the differences are not all about arguments over the validity of empirical ... | 7snyyy | CMV: 'Improved dialogue' won't solve political division | Since the 2016 election in the US, there's been a series of articles where liberals have visited pro Trump areas as if they were exploring a foreign country. They normally depict these journeys as neccessary to increase the amount of inter party discussion that they believe is neccessary to decrease extreme partisanshi... | 1,516,809,009 | Anonon_990 | dt66qed | dt666np | 5 | 2 |
CMV: Morality has declined because the number of people on the Earth has grown exponentially
So we all know that interesting fact that in only 115 years, number of people on Earth has risen from 1.65 billion to 7.4 billion.
I think that, because of such growth, the value of individuality has gotten lower and therefo... | Temporal co-occurance isn't causality. Two things happened at the same time, therefore one led to the other - is a logical fallacy - Post Hoc Ergo Proctor Hoc.
Also, if anything, I would argue that the value of individuality has increased substantially in the last 110 years. Women's Rights, Civil Rights, LGBT Rights,... | I don't see how a concern with popularity is a direct connection to a lack of morality? | 94cvd5 | CMV: Morality has declined because the number of people on the Earth has grown exponentially | So we all know that interesting fact that in only 115 years, number of people on Earth has risen from 1.65 billion to 7.4 billion.
I think that, because of such growth, the value of individuality has gotten lower and therefore it has affected morality. It became much harder to become popular since there is so much mo... | 1,533,326,191 | Eradicational | e3k4dw8 | e3k3qm7 | 9 | 2 |
CMV: Pedophilia is a sexuality in its own right. But there is no social solution to that problem
The actions of pedophiles seem to mirror the actions of gay people before it was culturally/legally accepted that they were gay. For instance: despite tremendous public backlash in the event of their discovery they persist... | There IS a solution:
Eternal youth serum/genetic treatment that doubles/triples human life.
You can bang a 30 yo loli with that. | I'm saying even a social solution would not suffice as pedophilia violates a fundamental moral principle that supercedes societal convention. | 86cjas | CMV: Pedophilia is a sexuality in its own right. But there is no social solution to that problem | The actions of pedophiles seem to mirror the actions of gay people before it was culturally/legally accepted that they were gay. For instance: despite tremendous public backlash in the event of their discovery they persist in subversive behavior. Why would anyone choose to be a pedophile if they knew it would literally... | 1,521,733,977 | Ambeam | dw4qfk9 | dw41glo | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Morality has declined because the number of people on the Earth has grown exponentially
So we all know that interesting fact that in only 115 years, number of people on Earth has risen from 1.65 billion to 7.4 billion.
I think that, because of such growth, the value of individuality has gotten lower and therefo... | You're basing moral decline on some rather petty factors. Shouldn't we instead be looking at more important statistics like the average person's likelihood of being murdered or the acceptability of slavery and see how those have changed over time? | In the past they had circuses and freak shows to show off the disabled, they had public lynchings of black people to prank, often with sexual content, people. The immorality has become public because of the internet, not new. | 94cvd5 | CMV: Morality has declined because the number of people on the Earth has grown exponentially | So we all know that interesting fact that in only 115 years, number of people on Earth has risen from 1.65 billion to 7.4 billion.
I think that, because of such growth, the value of individuality has gotten lower and therefore it has affected morality. It became much harder to become popular since there is so much mo... | 1,533,326,191 | Eradicational | e3k6oax | e3k5y6j | 8 | 1 |
CMV: Cigarette smoking a selfish act where the smoker doesn't care if others are harmed.
My disdain (that borders on a hatred) of smokers has nothing to do with my desire for a nanny state or for social controls to stop smokers from smoking. I really do not mind if people wish to smoke and bear the consequences of tho... | Is smoking a cigarette itself a selfish act? No. Is irresponsible smoking selfish? Yes, because you're putting other people at harm. There are plenty of ways to be considerate while smoking a cigarette, like only using designated smoking areas.
That's like saying every car driver is selfish. Can you do selfish things... | Every day you do a thousand selfish things. Do you buy cheap clothes without checking whether they were made by children in sweatshops? Do you let your air conditioner run at night, using up electricity which creates greenhouse gasses? Do you buy nice things for yourself instead of helping homeless people?
Who are you... | 6jgr01 | CMV: Cigarette smoking a selfish act where the smoker doesn't care if others are harmed. | My disdain (that borders on a hatred) of smokers has nothing to do with my desire for a nanny state or for social controls to stop smokers from smoking. I really do not mind if people wish to smoke and bear the consequences of those actions for themselves, but the problem is that smokers do not just harm or affect them... | 1,498,424,733 | redditU2017a | dje56an | dje3vg8 | 15 | 4 |
CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them.
I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the q... | alright, what is there to do after we become "perfect beings"? If that's the end goal, what is so satisfying about this end goal to God and to us? Wouldn't that mean that we're eternally trapped in this journey and post-goal achievement of being perfect?
Ah, feels hopeless and depressing to think of my existence like... | What it we separate "creator" from "god"? What if there is a creator of the earth, and the universe around it, but he just did it because it's a hobby? In his universe, he's just one of millions of schlubs going about his day. He might look "all mighty" from our perspective, and he can create and even control what go... | 793e9q | CMV: If a Creator God aims to liberate "lost" humans, that essentially means that he created humans and deliberately ensured their attraction and desire to material goods and worldly pleasure so he could proceed to supposedly "liberate" them. | I am currently in my process of becoming an atheist and this is one of the questions I have as I lessen my belief in Hinduism. Hinduism being a henotheistic religion has the concept of a supreme God. If this world was essentially created by the Supreme God, he would have to purposefully create it too possess material w... | 1,509,112,681 | memeyar | doyxajz | doyubyb | 26 | 1 |
CMV: BLM is a hinderance to the anti-racism movement
I want to start off by saying I'm not racist, I grew up in a black town surrounded by black culture and have protested racism on several occasions however, I think that the BLM movement is too strongly connoted with violence and is too easily taken to mean "black pe... | BLM has a very specific goal: fix the police. It is not designed to resolve crime as a broad problem - no black man has that power. It is not designed to directly improve police-community relations - that's a police responsibility. When police are less bad at their jobs, people will hate them less. BLM is not even desi... | I misread "intraracial" as "interracial". BLM does address intraracial violence by denouncing it and promoting community between black people. There is also a misunderstanding of the priority here. BLM was founded to tackle the injustice of the police force, which is its own distinct problem. While nobody is meant to b... | 6jhged | CMV: BLM is a hinderance to the anti-racism movement | I want to start off by saying I'm not racist, I grew up in a black town surrounded by black culture and have protested racism on several occasions however, I think that the BLM movement is too strongly connoted with violence and is too easily taken to mean "black peoples lives matter more than [blank]"
The movement ha... | 1,498,432,756 | Reagan_here | djecx6k | djebmss | 14 | 2 |
CMV: Antinatalists are just depressed people who try to make themselves feel better by shaming people who want to have kids.
Most of the posts on the antinatalist subreddit are actually so incredibly bizarre to me. There are so many posts where people say things like “if it takes the consent of both a man and a woman ... | Antinatalist here -
Real, philosophical antinatalism is simply the assignment of a negative value to birth. Life brings with it suffering, which is inevitable for 99.99% of people, ergo casting another human life unwittingly into the unforgiving wilds of life is unethical.
Life brings with it physical and mental pai... | > If you feel that being born and therefore Alive has negative value, why do you continue to live?
This is generally consistent - you can feel that being alive has negative value *on average*, but that your life is better than average (presumably, in part, because you don't have kids...), so it's worth living to you,... | mtvjih | CMV: Antinatalists are just depressed people who try to make themselves feel better by shaming people who want to have kids. | Most of the posts on the antinatalist subreddit are actually so incredibly bizarre to me. There are so many posts where people say things like “if it takes the consent of both a man and a woman to decide to have a child, then why is it okay that the child doesn’t have a say in it?” And “Why are people having children i... | 1,618,817,860 | Brett_Stewie | gv25erb | gv23xo4 | 37 | 7 |
CMV: my cat is cuter than yours
He’s a very good boy; His name is Teddy, and he is two years old. His personality meshes perfectly with mine, he is very relaxed, loves to sleepy, and is always hungry. He can be bribed to do practically anything with a crinkling of the treat bag.
He also serves as an alarm clock, his ... | I don't have a cat. Therefore, Teddy is unable to be compared in cuteness. Because of this, he is unable to be cuter.
Check mate.
PS, he is very cute | Check op’s account. It is pretty cute... | mudp3d | CMV: my cat is cuter than yours | He’s a very good boy; His name is Teddy, and he is two years old. His personality meshes perfectly with mine, he is very relaxed, loves to sleepy, and is always hungry. He can be bribed to do practically anything with a crinkling of the treat bag.
He also serves as an alarm clock, his first call comes at four in the m... | 1,618,875,674 | SaltySpursSupporter | gv57t9a | gv568ec | 41 | 2 |
CMV: Conservative Policy Just Protects the Haves from the Have-Nots, and Leaves the Have-Nots out to Dry.
Throughout this post I will make sweeping generalisations that represent a majority, but not all people who are either left or right wing. I understand many people on the right-wing do support helping the less for... | > That's why CEOs make hundreds of times more than an assembly line worker: Because for every person that has the skill to be an effective CEO, there are hundreds of people who have the skill to be an effective assembly line worker.
What you have just described is supply and demand. My problem with supply and demand i... | I think the issue on the substance is that conservative parties want to ignore whose liberty they're talking about, and the liberty to do what that's actually furthered by their policies.
The effect of abolishing the estate tax is to protect the liberty of the extremely rich to give their estate to whoever they want.... | 6jf27z | CMV: Conservative Policy Just Protects the Haves from the Have-Nots, and Leaves the Have-Nots out to Dry. | Throughout this post I will make sweeping generalisations that represent a majority, but not all people who are either left or right wing. I understand many people on the right-wing do support helping the less fortunate, but prefer doing it through extra-governmental means such as charity, I have no issue with them. My... | 1,498,406,494 | inoahsomeone | djdza5w | djdx308 | 5 | 2 |
CMV: The whole debate of whether addiction is a choice or disease is pointless and should simply be labeled as bad.
I do not want to rail on people who are using drugs and who are addicted. I think it’s a serious ailment to society and should be treated with upmost care. I don’t believe in hounding people who are addi... | 1. You don’t show up for work because you have diabetes and have to go to the hospital for treatment of this medical disorder.
2. You don’t show up for work because you have an addiction and have to go to the hospital for treatment or this medical disorder.
3. You don’t show up for work because you and your friends w... | The only choice an addict needs to be concerned about is the choice to get treatment. In this an addict is the same as someone suffering from cancer, or schizophrenia, or diabetes. By grouping addiction with diseases, the emphasis is put on getting treatment.
Whereas if being an addict is a choice, then presumably ad... | 94drnx | CMV: The whole debate of whether addiction is a choice or disease is pointless and should simply be labeled as bad. | I do not want to rail on people who are using drugs and who are addicted. I think it’s a serious ailment to society and should be treated with upmost care. I don’t believe in hounding people who are addicted and believe rehabilitation is preferable to punishment and berating.
That said, I do not understand the whole d... | 1,533,332,837 | WaffleSingSong | e3kc2og | e3kbai2 | 3 | 1 |
CMV: It's not okay to ask for advice about a potential love interest from another friend.
Yesterday during my session with my therapist, she said it's okay to ask a woman's friend's about them if I'm interested in them. For example, if I ask if the person is single, they may say "Yes, she is single, she might be inter... | > she said it's okay to ask a woman's friend's about them if I'm interested in them
the girl's friends are usually invested in her happiness. So, asking a friend of hers whether or not she's seeing someone and whether or not the friend thinks she might be open to being asked out isn't inherently a bad plan.
> I asked... | Nearly a thousand words and who knows how much in billable hours to dance around the simplest solution...
"Hey, \[person that I'm interested in\] I think you're great and would love to know if you're interested too. Can I take you on a date?" followed by "awesome, can't wait!" or "no worries, I totally understand."
W... | 19ato86 | CMV: It's not okay to ask for advice about a potential love interest from another friend. | Yesterday during my session with my therapist, she said it's okay to ask a woman's friend's about them if I'm interested in them. For example, if I ask if the person is single, they may say "Yes, she is single, she might be interested" or "No, she has a boyfriend, sorry", for example.
However, I've been hesitant to do... | 1,705,698,129 | CEO_Of_Rejection_99 | kinem95 | kincnza | 52 | 6 |
CMV: It is cruel and selfish to ghost people that you no longer want in your life
This is a sweeping statement, and in my mind applies to any kind of interpersonal relationship: familial, romantic, friendly. I want to clarify a few common counterpoints.
1. This viewpoint does not apply in relationships that were abus... | I ghosted a man I was talking to online. It had been a couple of months. He sent some major red flags, and eventually he tried to order me to come visit him, along with some other equally creepy things. Yikes. I didn't feel safe talking to him any more. So I stopped.
It was the healthiest option for me.
I had another... | It sort of is though in practice. If you're friends with someone and then become irritated with their behavior or personality to a point where you can't stand to be around them anymore, then it often does come down to a list of grievances. Each one might seem minor or petty in isolation, and you overlooked each inciden... | anfhjf | CMV: It is cruel and selfish to ghost people that you no longer want in your life | This is a sweeping statement, and in my mind applies to any kind of interpersonal relationship: familial, romantic, friendly. I want to clarify a few common counterpoints.
1. This viewpoint does not apply in relationships that were abusive.
2. I define "ghosting" as suddenly ceasing all communication without *sufficie... | 1,549,382,466 | ququqachu | eftw4q9 | eftr7rf | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president.
I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believ... | I haven't seen this posted yet - but by far his most important accomplishment has been keeping America out of any new foreign conflicts. [According to this article](https://www.theelders.org/news/only-us-president-who-didnt-wage-war), the only other president who managed to keep the US out of new foreign conflicts was ... | Trump is also the first president since Jimmy Carter that has not started a new war or foreign conflict.
He's made steps towards stopping the CCP's encroachments on Hong Kong and their running of actual concentration camps.
Not to mention brokering a historic peace deal between isreal and the uae.
Deptuizing state... | iq41dt | CMV: Donald Trump has not made a single lasting positive impact on the USA during his term as president. | I write this because I am tired of the wild goose chase that is finding examples of his success. Anything surrounding Donald Trump is shrouded in divisive language and biased opinions. Liberals will have you believe he has done nothing, while conservatives will tout his unlimited success. I must be missing it, because ... | 1,599,747,097 | farm_sauce | g4pbve2 | g4p62b3 | 594 | 38 |
CMV: the "Jim and the Indians" problem is not fundamentally different from the Trolley Problem
The Jim and the Indians problem is about a person who visits the US and comes upon a small town square, where 10 native Americans are about to be executed for rebelling. The captain attempts to 'honor' Jim and celebrate his ... | The fundamentals never change, but that's not always the point.
The interesting (to me at least) thing about the trolley problem is how responses change based on the wording and situation. I can't find the source now but ask the same group of people to "press a switch" and "push someone on the tracks" and you won't ge... | >In my opinion this is just a form of derailing, and it gets in the way of discussing the dilemma that is posed here: would you kill one person to save ten?
If that's a derail then the problem should be phrased "would you kill one person to save ten?" The whole point of using a more extensive analogy is to bring into... | 8obdte | CMV: the "Jim and the Indians" problem is not fundamentally different from the Trolley Problem | The Jim and the Indians problem is about a person who visits the US and comes upon a small town square, where 10 native Americans are about to be executed for rebelling. The captain attempts to 'honor' Jim and celebrate his visit by giving him the chance to shoot one of the natives. If he does this, the other nine are ... | 1,528,057,360 | HeathenArmy | e022uko | e022jsi | 18 | 2 |
CMV: Most Muslims are certainly decent people, but one of the biggest barriers to Islam and the West coexisting in the same place are the religious doctrines.
I believe that the Quran and Hadiths are the problem here, I have been told that they are written in a very vague manner (with very conflicting messages that ar... | Yes, but you mostly hear about Muslim extremists because their ideology is dogmatic and militant.
The Buddhist extremists in South East Asia are just a bunch of loons, and literally no Buddhist texts support in any shape or form what they are doing. | Don't judge Islam by Muslims and don't judge Muslims by Islam.
The problem is that Islam is fundamentally against western values. Yes, you can argue the idea that Christianity has its problems in text too, but not near the extent as the Quran and the hadiths.
You have a religion with a history of violence committed... | 7srbhu | CMV: Most Muslims are certainly decent people, but one of the biggest barriers to Islam and the West coexisting in the same place are the religious doctrines. | I believe that the Quran and Hadiths are the problem here, I have been told that they are written in a very vague manner (with very conflicting messages that are contradictory) that is very easy to interpret in all sorts of ways, which makes it easier for ultra-religious people who follow Islam to become extremists.
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CMV: Virtual Reality will not take off in the next 20 years
a | Your entire post is based completely on your own opinion of what you THINK vr is...
>I imagine if people who were originally okay were to use VR for hours and months you may start then see the side effects that only the minority would suffer.
It's been out almost a year, no show effects yet. So that assumption is wron... | [Just leaving this here.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAeVE3Lsr2I)
Jesse makes a good point for why it'll be sooner than 20 years at 0:20. The porn industry won't be that slow to capitalize on it. | 5rp8zc | CMV: Virtual Reality will not take off in the next 20 years | a | 1,486,067,398 | ItsNotHectic | dd9jnak | dd94ixf | 2 | 1 |
CMV: 'Improved dialogue' won't solve political division
Since the 2016 election in the US, there's been a series of articles where liberals have visited pro Trump areas as if they were exploring a foreign country. They normally depict these journeys as neccessary to increase the amount of inter party discussion that t... | There are benefits of talking to people not on your side, I'm just not sure if it will have any effect on partisanship.
> but the idea that the right thinks a race and gender neutral society that protects the environment and vulnerable is immoral is a gross mischaracterization.
I'm not sure about republic that. I've... | > Because of these two differences, any increased understanding will only make partisanship worse because the antagonism isn't caused by caricatures each side has of the other but by the realities of their mutually exclusive agenda.
Ironically, your descriptions of both sides are caricatures in and of themselves. Dem... | 7snyyy | CMV: 'Improved dialogue' won't solve political division | Since the 2016 election in the US, there's been a series of articles where liberals have visited pro Trump areas as if they were exploring a foreign country. They normally depict these journeys as neccessary to increase the amount of inter party discussion that they believe is neccessary to decrease extreme partisanshi... | 1,516,809,009 | Anonon_990 | dt67moi | dt66jg9 | 2 | -1 |
CMV: I think it's okay for multiple definitions of the word "atheism" to exist in the world
The FAQ of the r/atheism defines atheism as a lack of belief in god(s). The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (SEP) favors [defining atheism](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/) as the belief in no god(s)... | The central issue is how is information conveyed and communicated. If you have to clarify/define your stance/usage of the word "atheism", then using the word in the first place is ineffective. If we look at other words that have multiple definitions, it's the use and context of those words that enable the recipient to... | According to google agnosticism is:
> a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
One can perfectly fit into this definition while simultaneously believe god exist or god doesn't exist.
Isn't this whole CMV about that it's okay that there's multiple definitions? ... | e102rf | CMV: I think it's okay for multiple definitions of the word "atheism" to exist in the world | The FAQ of the r/atheism defines atheism as a lack of belief in god(s). The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (SEP) favors [defining atheism](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/) as the belief in no god(s). Both the FAQ and the SEP acknowledge that there are multiple definitions of the word in use... | 1,574,610,409 | Dan_Today | f8kx2wa | f8kmyjh | 6 | 2 |
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