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CMV: As a Libertarian, it makes more sense to vote Democrat than Republican
So, I've been thinking about this for a while, and the view is contingent upon a few assumptions:
1. Taxation is theft.
2. Democrats are more likely to spend tax revenue on social welfare programs that benefit Americans (the tax payer).
3. Re... | You shouldn't be voting for anyone based on your generalized assumptions of what any non-monolithic group stand for, but on the actual candidates platform and their actual history and actions.
Nor should you be basing your votes on broad ideological umbrellas and meaningless aphorisms such as "taxation is theft". "Tax... | >Taxation is theft.
Democrats believe in higher taxation, so more theft than what republicans would implement.
>Democrats are more likely to spend tax revenue on social welfare programs that benefit Americans (the tax payer).
Libertarians don't believe in social welfare programs.
>Republicans are equally likely to... | 93evk9 | CMV: As a Libertarian, it makes more sense to vote Democrat than Republican | So, I've been thinking about this for a while, and the view is contingent upon a few assumptions:
1. Taxation is theft.
2. Democrats are more likely to spend tax revenue on social welfare programs that benefit Americans (the tax payer).
3. Republicans are equally likely to tax, but less likely to support spending tax ... | Willshw | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: As a Libertarian, it makes more sense to vote Democrat than Republican
So, I've been thinking about this for a while, and the view is contingent upon a few assumptions:
1. Taxation is theft.
2. Democrats are more likely to spend tax revenue on social welfare programs that benefit Americans (the tax payer).
3. Re... | You shouldn't be voting for anyone based on your generalized assumptions of what any non-monolithic group stand for, but on the actual candidates platform and their actual history and actions.
Nor should you be basing your votes on broad ideological umbrellas and meaningless aphorisms such as "taxation is theft". "Tax... | > Democrats are more likely to spend tax revenue on social welfare programs that benefit Americans (the tax payer).
Ah, but this functionally rewards and encourages *more* theft.
> Republicans are equally likely to tax, but less likely to support spending tax revenue on Americans, and more likely to support expenditu... | 93evk9 | CMV: As a Libertarian, it makes more sense to vote Democrat than Republican | So, I've been thinking about this for a while, and the view is contingent upon a few assumptions:
1. Taxation is theft.
2. Democrats are more likely to spend tax revenue on social welfare programs that benefit Americans (the tax payer).
3. Republicans are equally likely to tax, but less likely to support spending tax ... | Willshw | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Skyrim is the most loved videogame of all time, given the proper understanding of the word love.
Love can be a noun or verb and can occur in both passive and active forms. To love is to act while to feel love is to have something or to be in a state. If I were to rank forms of love, I might start with the "feeli... | Is it really though? It's been goofed and memed on countless times. It's even recognized by Todd and his Studio as well. It's one of the most influential/viral game, yes. But it's not the most loved all time. You feel Nostalgic about it and when it came out it was a good game. But I can safely say that it's not the mos... | 1. The ability to love something is purely subjective. It depends on a lot of factors like generation, experiences ...
2. All you said (community, meme, mods, stats ... ) can be applied to Minecraft. So maybe it's the most loved game too.
1 + 2 = 3. Skyrim is YOUR most loved video game and you have great arguments to d... | f8y6nk | CMV: Skyrim is the most loved videogame of all time, given the proper understanding of the word love. | Love can be a noun or verb and can occur in both passive and active forms. To love is to act while to feel love is to have something or to be in a state. If I were to rank forms of love, I might start with the "feeling" of love, then the act of appreciating something, the act of participating or merging with the objec... | dan_jeffers | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Tall people should be offered emergency exit plane seats for free if there are any available and even if others have paid for those same category seats.
People pay for extra comfort and so pay for emergency exit seats. But planes are designed for the median not extremes. Tall people (let’s define as >6’4”) need e... | >need emergency exit seats to receive THE SAME level of comfort that others receive in free economy seats.
So do many other people like people with disabilities, injuries, people with phobias, etc... I'm afraid there are a lot of issues that are invisible to you, and you can inflict a great deal of harm if you bump pe... | It's not the responsibility of the airline to make your experience a good one. The are a private company and they are going to do what makes them the most money.
Taking someones seat away that they paid for seems like it probably drives away more customers than it attracts tall people who know have a tiny chance o... | tpf1w4 | CMV: Tall people should be offered emergency exit plane seats for free if there are any available and even if others have paid for those same category seats. | People pay for extra comfort and so pay for emergency exit seats. But planes are designed for the median not extremes. Tall people (let’s define as >6’4”) need emergency exit seats to receive THE SAME level of comfort that others receive in free economy seats. In an economy seat tall people are in medium to severe disc... | possiblyai | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Physics is a joke.
The universe and everything in it is made of the same thing, which is force or heat or pressure, we can also say that the universe can be called different things from different perspectives.
We can even call the universe Time, itself.
Now from different perspectives of the universe you can ca... | Terrology 2.0.
lol.
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I don't know about 1×1=2
Because the first one is quantity and the second one is quantity required... I'm not sure about how he gets 2.
Zero is not a number... It is a symbol of no quantity, it has no value therefore it does not represent quantity.
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Zeros has a value. It’s 1 less ... | This sounds like the inane ramblings of a person on psychedelic drugs. You didn't make any specific claims to be challenged.
> Physics and all these sciences are businesses, nothing more, nothing less
Science made that computer you're typing on. Maybe you should throw that away and live in the woods if you think you'... | 1dukpci | CMV: Physics is a joke. | The universe and everything in it is made of the same thing, which is force or heat or pressure, we can also say that the universe can be called different things from different perspectives.
We can even call the universe Time, itself.
Now from different perspectives of the universe you can call this force or energy d... | Sigma_Librae | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: While paid holiday denial by employers is tyrannical and should be punished, mandatory paid holiday clearance by employees is a form of tyranny that should not happen too.
I was reading about discussion [in r/worldnews about holiday denial](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/92bou3/more_than_two_million_... | [deleted]
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It's not like I work literally every single work day.
I do take paid holidays. It's the fact that my company has a policy that makes it mandatory for me to finish them I am unpleased with.
I am legally entitled 16 days. But I only need 8 of them. Making me taking all those 16 days is a burden and disr... | Although you are being forced to take vacation that you do not seem to want, something simple like a day off is something that everyone needs every once in a while, even workaholics need it.
If you are forced to take 16 and you dislike longer vacations due to eventual emergencies rising up during those vacations, mayb... | 93dgva | CMV: While paid holiday denial by employers is tyrannical and should be punished, mandatory paid holiday clearance by employees is a form of tyranny that should not happen too. | I was reading about discussion [in r/worldnews about holiday denial](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/92bou3/more_than_two_million_workers_cheated_out_of/?utm_source=reddit-android), which inspired this CMV.
I am a department head who is currently having a strained workforce. I had to mediate between my sup... | Lytre | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: While paid holiday denial by employers is tyrannical and should be punished, mandatory paid holiday clearance by employees is a form of tyranny that should not happen too.
I was reading about discussion [in r/worldnews about holiday denial](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/92bou3/more_than_two_million_... | [deleted]
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It's not like I work literally every single work day.
I do take paid holidays. It's the fact that my company has a policy that makes it mandatory for me to finish them I am unpleased with.
I am legally entitled 16 days. But I only need 8 of them. Making me taking all those 16 days is a burden and disr... | I'm in Europe, in a country where holidays are enforced (4 weeks minimum) in order to allow workers to rest. There is [quite some evidence](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201006/the-importance-vacations-our-physical-and-mental-health) that vacationing is good for your health and good reason... | 93dgva | CMV: While paid holiday denial by employers is tyrannical and should be punished, mandatory paid holiday clearance by employees is a form of tyranny that should not happen too. | I was reading about discussion [in r/worldnews about holiday denial](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/92bou3/more_than_two_million_workers_cheated_out_of/?utm_source=reddit-android), which inspired this CMV.
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CMV: felons should not lose the right to vote
The United States was founded on a set of principles, one of them being that there should be no taxation without representation. If you’re paying taxes, you should be allowed to have a say in how they are spent (voting). When a person is convicted of a felony, they lose th... | I think that those rights should be lost **but** with an expiration date.
Often, those who commit felonies typically fall back into the same habits. But, for the many that don't, once they stay out of trouble for X amount of time, they should be fully restored. This could coincide with parole IMO.
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I see where yo... | While I agree that felons should not lose their right to vote _permanently_ I do feel that losing it while they are serving their sentence is justified. At the end of the day, a felony is a pretty severe infraction of the laws of this nation, and it seems fair that someone who didn't care about following the laws shou... | f8wgx0 | CMV: felons should not lose the right to vote | The United States was founded on a set of principles, one of them being that there should be no taxation without representation. If you’re paying taxes, you should be allowed to have a say in how they are spent (voting). When a person is convicted of a felony, they lose this right. They continue to pay taxes but have n... | Benal_apg | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Undergraduate students should be able to graduate by age 16. Both school and college education should be compressed.
The 15-16 years of School AND college should be compressed to 10-11 years.
So instead of 12 years of school and 4 years of college
Let's make it 9 years of school and 2 years of college
16 years ... | Even if kids intellectually can handle undergraduate material at 12 or 13, that sounds outright dangerous in many fields where internships or laboratory work is important.
I don’t want a 15 year old nursing student supervised by an 18 year old graduate inserting my IV or a teenaged student teacher being principally r... | > Less years will allow students to get to workforce faster.
oh thank god just imagine if people didn’t speed run to the most soul crushing aspect of existence
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∆ Good point! You are right.... Not sure how I can respond to this point. There could be a transition period between 17 year old college graduates and fu... | tp7bdx | CMV: Undergraduate students should be able to graduate by age 16. Both school and college education should be compressed. | The 15-16 years of School AND college should be compressed to 10-11 years.
So instead of 12 years of school and 4 years of college
Let's make it 9 years of school and 2 years of college
16 years are too much. What have you guys learned at school?
Less years will allow students to get to workforce faster.
You will st... | Realistic-Music-5569 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the best way to end the drug crisis is through legalization and regulation.
I think legalization and regulation are the best steps for society to combat the drug crisis.
I want to clarify two terms beforehand.
Best: The most effective, easily implemented, and least harmful plan.
drug crisis: the current prob... | First off I’m very much for decriminalizing marijuana and serious drug reform, but your argument makes no sense… like, literally half baked. You’ve defined “the drug crisis” as “overdoses, addictions,” etc. and your solution is “legalization and regulation.”
Many opioids as a prescription medication *are* legal. As o... | [removed]
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Glad you agree | uymzir | CMV: the best way to end the drug crisis is through legalization and regulation. | I think legalization and regulation are the best steps for society to combat the drug crisis.
I want to clarify two terms beforehand.
Best: The most effective, easily implemented, and least harmful plan.
drug crisis: the current problems surrounding drug use.
overdoses, addiction, drug related incarcerations, mo... | AvailableEmployer | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Race is real and important
CMV: Race on a biological level determines ability and behaviour on a group level, though not on an individual basis.
Race, as a biological concept tied to genetic variation across human populations, influences behavior and proclivities through measurable differences in physiology, br... | You’re talking about ethnicity, not race
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Ethnicity is not inherently biological. It can be a cultural distinction as per Google's first definition. I am talking about race.
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Race is also not inherently biological. There is no reason for example to claim that Spanish people are white but Moroccans are Arab, g... | Nah, race is way too broad of a concept. Now, if we're talking about different ethnicities than there may be a more considerable overlap with regards to genetics.
But race is just way too broad of a concept. Racial groups like "white" or "black" or "Asian" or "Arab" are pretty much completely meaningless and tell us ... | 1ov25hb | CMV: Race is real and important | CMV: Race on a biological level determines ability and behaviour on a group level, though not on an individual basis.
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CMV: Income tax should be applied to all income sources with no prejudice towards or against inheritance, capital gains, other yet-to-be taxed sources
One thing that is frustrating and confounding about US Tax Policy, in my opinion, is that different sources of income are taxed at different rates. This, to my mind, c... | > One thing that is frustrating and confounding about US Tax Policy, in my opinion, is that different sources of income are taxed at different rates. This, to my mind, creates incentives to do certain activities over others which negates their usefulness.
Two things on this: The US is not the only country with differe... | So like if I give you a birthday present I should tell you and the the IRS what I paid for it so you can pay taxes on it as income?
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Is it cash, like tips are to a restaurant worker, then of course! Tips are reported as income, why not cash gifts? If you receive enough cash gifts that it significantly raised you... | f8tvi6 | CMV: Income tax should be applied to all income sources with no prejudice towards or against inheritance, capital gains, other yet-to-be taxed sources | One thing that is frustrating and confounding about US Tax Policy, in my opinion, is that different sources of income are taxed at different rates. This, to my mind, creates incentives to do certain activities over others which negates their usefulness.
To my mind, for ease of efficiency and ease of clarity, all inco... | andyk123pony | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I think that restaurants with Russia/Russian in their name should be required to change it.
I watched [this](https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1507028368247562248?s=21) video and it prompted me to make this post. Please watch it for context.
I understand that racism is wrong, but I, honestly, think that the woma... | 1) Freedom of expression trumps any concern you have over what you think anyone ought to do. If a restaurant wants to call itself Russian, neither you nor I have any right to stop them. The market may punish them (if enough consumers are stupid), but you have no right to compel them to stop saying the name of a count... | A more similar analogy would be if you boycott a restaurant named "German restaurant"
Can you not see the difference between blaming Hitler/Putin and blaming all of Germany/Russia?
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Modern Germany is very anti-Nazi. Displaying the Nazi flag in Germany can get you jail time.
If Russia can become anti-Putin, then ... | tpcloq | CMV: I think that restaurants with Russia/Russian in their name should be required to change it. | I watched [this](https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1507028368247562248?s=21) video and it prompted me to make this post. Please watch it for context.
I understand that racism is wrong, but I, honestly, think that the woman in the video deserves the hate she is getting. Her restaurant has "Russian" in its name, which, ... | Snoo_71122 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I think that restaurants with Russia/Russian in their name should be required to change it.
I watched [this](https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1507028368247562248?s=21) video and it prompted me to make this post. Please watch it for context.
I understand that racism is wrong, but I, honestly, think that the woma... | >I, personally, would boycott every restaurant that has "Russia" or "Russian" in its name, regardless of the ethnicity of its owners. This is not racism because unlike race, the name of a restaurant is something that the owners can change. A lot of restaurants have already changed their name to avoid any association wi... | I agree! In fact, we should be forcing people to change the names of every restaurant named after a country that has done something horrible.
So, uh, every restaurant named after a country, I guess. Hope you can properly explain where a food is from without using the name of the country involved!
More to the point, h... | tpcloq | CMV: I think that restaurants with Russia/Russian in their name should be required to change it. | I watched [this](https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1507028368247562248?s=21) video and it prompted me to make this post. Please watch it for context.
I understand that racism is wrong, but I, honestly, think that the woman in the video deserves the hate she is getting. Her restaurant has "Russian" in its name, which, ... | Snoo_71122 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People should have to prove political knowledge and engagement before being able to vote.
It does not make sense for every of-age citizen to have an equal vote in a representative democracy. In this age of polarization, takes, and partisan media, there is an ever increasing propensity for people to vote based on ... | Any time there is a gate preventing those from voting, said gate will be abused and misapplied in order to control an election.
Simple as that.
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Maybe give me some examples of how this could be abused to get false negatives in an abusive way (preventing genuinely informed voters from voting)?
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Easy. Simply ... | So we should give elected officials the power to select who can vote for them? I mean they get to determine what the vetting process is right? So how do you *guarantee* they don't make that process biased?
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Maybe you can't, but we're talking hypotheticals so we can propose whatever process we like, however impract... | f8vgdr | CMV: People should have to prove political knowledge and engagement before being able to vote. | It does not make sense for every of-age citizen to have an equal vote in a representative democracy. In this age of polarization, takes, and partisan media, there is an ever increasing propensity for people to vote based on sentiment, party affiliation, and/or an incomplete or demonstrably false understanding of a cand... | SociallyUnadjusted | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People should have to prove political knowledge and engagement before being able to vote.
It does not make sense for every of-age citizen to have an equal vote in a representative democracy. In this age of polarization, takes, and partisan media, there is an ever increasing propensity for people to vote based on ... | While I completely disagree with everything in your post I think the only thing I feel like touching on now is the ridiculous amount of ways this proposed system can be corrupted.
You want only “worthy” people to be able to vote? Ok. Who watches the watchers? This is rife for voter suppression and is truly a fascist ... | No. Just no. Basically a literacy test, which is as racist as red lining. It's a candidate job to be able to reach everyone from the most educated to the not so fortunate. If he can't, he losses
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Just because a policy might have racially imbalanced outcomes doesn't mean it's wrong. You're going to have to convince... | f8vgdr | CMV: People should have to prove political knowledge and engagement before being able to vote. | It does not make sense for every of-age citizen to have an equal vote in a representative democracy. In this age of polarization, takes, and partisan media, there is an ever increasing propensity for people to vote based on sentiment, party affiliation, and/or an incomplete or demonstrably false understanding of a cand... | SociallyUnadjusted | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People should have to prove political knowledge and engagement before being able to vote.
It does not make sense for every of-age citizen to have an equal vote in a representative democracy. In this age of polarization, takes, and partisan media, there is an ever increasing propensity for people to vote based on ... | While I completely disagree with everything in your post I think the only thing I feel like touching on now is the ridiculous amount of ways this proposed system can be corrupted.
You want only “worthy” people to be able to vote? Ok. Who watches the watchers? This is rife for voter suppression and is truly a fascist ... | So we should give elected officials the power to select who can vote for them? I mean they get to determine what the vetting process is right? So how do you *guarantee* they don't make that process biased?
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Maybe you can't, but we're talking hypotheticals so we can propose whatever process we like, however impract... | f8vgdr | CMV: People should have to prove political knowledge and engagement before being able to vote. | It does not make sense for every of-age citizen to have an equal vote in a representative democracy. In this age of polarization, takes, and partisan media, there is an ever increasing propensity for people to vote based on sentiment, party affiliation, and/or an incomplete or demonstrably false understanding of a cand... | SociallyUnadjusted | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: People should have to prove political knowledge and engagement before being able to vote.
It does not make sense for every of-age citizen to have an equal vote in a representative democracy. In this age of polarization, takes, and partisan media, there is an ever increasing propensity for people to vote based on ... | Nah, this would be fucked up. People without access to education or other resources, and without the free time to engage in any of those activities you described (aka poor people) would disproportionately be unable to vote.
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To CMV, please convince me: people who don't have the education or resources to demonstrat... | Any time there is a gate preventing those from voting, said gate will be abused and misapplied in order to control an election.
Simple as that.
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Maybe give me some examples of how this could be abused to get false negatives in an abusive way (preventing genuinely informed voters from voting)?
---
Easy. Simply ... | f8vgdr | CMV: People should have to prove political knowledge and engagement before being able to vote. | It does not make sense for every of-age citizen to have an equal vote in a representative democracy. In this age of polarization, takes, and partisan media, there is an ever increasing propensity for people to vote based on sentiment, party affiliation, and/or an incomplete or demonstrably false understanding of a cand... | SociallyUnadjusted | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Humans should all be thrown into a perfect-world-style simulation.
**Picture this:** Someone has just thrown all of humanity into an illusion world, tailored for every individual's needs. With the right amount of struggle and the right amount of payoff. It is indistinguishable from the real world.
Now all wars ... | Well, it depends on your ethics, but this sounds like a very utilitarian view. Ethically, it might be questionable as you are not asking people whether they want to make the sacrifice of the current world (which we will assume as a "real" world, whatever that means), in favor of this alternate reality.
The issue is h... | How, exactly, are generations after born into this world if no one can interact with anyone else?
More to the point, consent is vital. If you want to hang out in a fake reality, sure, go ahead, but you can't make that choice for anyone else.
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1-They don't. They either live forever or die.
2-But if someone cho... | tpcogt | CMV: Humans should all be thrown into a perfect-world-style simulation. | **Picture this:** Someone has just thrown all of humanity into an illusion world, tailored for every individual's needs. With the right amount of struggle and the right amount of payoff. It is indistinguishable from the real world.
Now all wars are over, all of humanity is happy, the cycle of hatred and revenge has b... | gadgetmcfly | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:You are morally in the wrong if you act as though you are going to have a meaningful discussion but then refuse to have one
I believe that people who act as though they are going to have a serious discussion but then refuse to discuss it past a certain point due to emotional reasons are in the wrong. The moral neg... | Your post does a good job of explaining what your view is, but it doesn't really explain why you hold it. Why do you hold this view? How do you know that it is true?
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I believe that you are harming people by wasting their time with pointless things. I also think that you are as a whole harming dialogue because you... | To clarify, consider the following exchange:
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Which of the following responses would you consider immoral on the part of person 2:
1. “I don’t really want to get into a debate about z.” (For exam... | 7r6r03 | CMV:You are morally in the wrong if you act as though you are going to have a meaningful discussion but then refuse to have one | I believe that people who act as though they are going to have a serious discussion but then refuse to discuss it past a certain point due to emotional reasons are in the wrong. The moral negativity obviously only applies when this is conscious and intentional. When it is unconscious someone cannot be said to have mora... | Dhul-Qarnayn-II | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I don't find libertarianism to be all that crazy or unreasonable
Naturally, an individual libertarian can be unreasonable. And any political viewpoint will look insane when taken to its logical extremes.
At it's most basic form, a libertarian believes that a person or group of people in government are not capabl... | Your forgetting the first rule of libertarianism: What ever you think libertarianism is, the next libertarian you meet will tell you that you're wrong and probably a statist.
In the abstract there isn't anything particularly wrong with approaching issues and concerns from a libertarian *perspective*. It can be quite u... | So, what you are describing is a utilitarian who happens to have certain beliefs about government being incompetent in certain areas.
The person you describe does not have any particular attachment to liberty or freedom as an end goal or moral good in their own right, they merely think liberty and freedom happen to ... | ob1x57 | CMV: I don't find libertarianism to be all that crazy or unreasonable | Naturally, an individual libertarian can be unreasonable. And any political viewpoint will look insane when taken to its logical extremes.
At it's most basic form, a libertarian believes that a person or group of people in government are not capable of knowing what's best for me as an individual, or you as an individu... | ZeusThunder369 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Race is a social construct, but populations that share common ancestry and are phenotypically similar, will share traits that enhance or decrease their survival depending on their environment.
Race is a social construct. One reason it has survived as a concept may be due to it being a convenient shorthand when di... | What is your CMV? Does anyone dispute the idea that humans genetic variation can be clustered into groups with a high correlation to ancestral geographic location, and that these clusters will have a phenotypic expression? I don't think anyone disagrees with the research showing that the Sherpa people have a high frequ... | >if instead we deconstructed “race” into an infinite number of distinct populations that evolved together and therefore share phenotypes, we would have a more scientifically sound and not just socially constructed version of “race.”
My overarching question in response to this is: why? Why do we need a scientific basi... | uyggr7 | CMV: Race is a social construct, but populations that share common ancestry and are phenotypically similar, will share traits that enhance or decrease their survival depending on their environment. | Race is a social construct. One reason it has survived as a concept may be due to it being a convenient shorthand when discussing groups of people that society has decided to lump together. Language is a blunt instrument and people are rarely precise when speaking. For example, it’s just simpler to say “asian,” “black”... | D1NK4Life | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Dismissing arguments because you are being "talked down to" is not a valid counter argument.
There seems to be this notion in popular political discussions that because right leaning white people have been talked down to since the mid 2000s, they are justified in dismissing arguments from institutions like journa... | I don't know it seems like a lot of people oft try to attack some one's character or take a jab at their personal sentiments extricated from the policy stances they hold that are in question. And I think that's just how we call out ad hominem, and logical non sequitors which should be how we call it out. And I don't ev... | Depends on what you would consider valid, which in part depends on what result would determine a "successful" argument.
Let's use your 2+2 example and draw it out to an extreme so the illustration is clearer.
If my goal is to **logically prove** that 2+2=4 then the particular language/tone of my wording doesn't make... | 9393rn | CMV: Dismissing arguments because you are being "talked down to" is not a valid counter argument. | There seems to be this notion in popular political discussions that because right leaning white people have been talked down to since the mid 2000s, they are justified in dismissing arguments from institutions like journalism, education, and civic service precisely for that reason.
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CMV: Joe Biden is the only major 2020 Democrat candidate who will preserve capitalism.
I personally believe that capitalism is the best economic system for creating the most amount of wealth for the most people. I do think that it has its flaws and should have government checks to prevent it from getting out of contro... | >1.) The wealth tax
How does this stop capitalism?
>2.) 40% of corporate boards elected by employees
Why is this a bad thing?
>3.) Breaking up big tech companies
Again, why bad?
>4.) Medicare-For-All
For a 3rd time, why bad?
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>How does this stop capitalism?
I don't think any of this stops capitalism but we... | 40% of corporate boards elected by employees is meaningless isn’t it? What practical difference can that make apart from being a gutless promise to the more socialist dems?
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Is this comment saying that it can't happen or that if it does happen nothing will come of it?
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CMV: Job postings should be legally required to include the minimum pay rate offered.
Job vacancy advertisements should have to include a minimum pay rate that the employer is willing to offer, so that job seekers immediately know what to expect for a wage range prior to applying.
The requirement should be in a commo... | You can always just ask, or look on glassdoor.com. it's funny that the lack of research on the applicants end always ends up being something the say should be legally required. If that's the case you should be legally required to tell them how often you'll be on your phone or at work not on task
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I've checked glas... | Let’s do a thought experiment. Suppose I post a position at $45/hour. I’m looking for someone with 4 years of experience in industry, the right education and other traits. You interview with me and my team. We all like you, and want to give you a chance, but you clearly don’t have the experience to justify the wage... | f8pm97 | CMV: Job postings should be legally required to include the minimum pay rate offered. | Job vacancy advertisements should have to include a minimum pay rate that the employer is willing to offer, so that job seekers immediately know what to expect for a wage range prior to applying.
The requirement should be in a common-sense format like "Minimum $8.50/hr", "$45,000+ annually", or "Commissions Only, but ... | StardusterPrime | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Fraser Anning emitted an appropriate response to the person who egged him.
I want to go ahead and get this out of the way, I think what Senator Anning said was absolutely disgusting.
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But while I think his words were gross I think this public outcry to have him removed because he punched/slapped a 17 y... | Everyone can understand his initial reaction in the slap, but after that the situation should have been diffused.
Instead, Anning sizes up the kid and decides to attack ~after~ the threat and shock is over. That is assault.
As well as the over reaction of his goon squad.
These are just people looking for an excuse ... | He didn't just give him a "Stop That" slap, and he took time to hit him, so it wasn't in self defense. He hit him twice, and had a bunch of grown men putting someone who is technically still a minor (at least by American rules, not sure about australia) in a chokehold and literally kicking him when he's down. If it was... | b2h3tm | CMV: Fraser Anning emitted an appropriate response to the person who egged him. | I want to go ahead and get this out of the way, I think what Senator Anning said was absolutely disgusting.
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But while I think his words were gross I think this public outcry to have him removed because he punched/slapped a 17 year old kid who egged him is idiotic. This wasn't a 6/10/13 year old, this was a ... | Saelon | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There should not be a stigma against consenting adult same-sex incest, the concept should be normalized.
Last time I posted on this topic I was arguing for the particularities of making it legal for marriage. I now realize how short-sighted that was considering *any* type of incest, even only queer, can also pote... | I feel like the view in your title doesn't match the view in your text.
The view in your title is "There should not be a stigma against consenting adult same-sex incest, the concept should be normalized."
"Normalizing" the concept would suggest, to me, that we as a society should see nothing particularly strange or t... | Your claim is that there shouldn't be a stigma to the idea of incest.
But you argue against this by proposing only queer incest to dodge the inbreeding issue, and propose non-abusive incest despite that being what is most often heard about.
Homosexual incest is certainly a more rare situation than heterosexual incest... | vpnqht | CMV: There should not be a stigma against consenting adult same-sex incest, the concept should be normalized. | Last time I posted on this topic I was arguing for the particularities of making it legal for marriage. I now realize how short-sighted that was considering *any* type of incest, even only queer, can also potentially include intergenerational incestuous unions particularly between parents and their children and I’m so ... | FireMiko | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Trump will not resign and will not be impeached as long as Congress remains red.
My view is pretty straightforward, and is based mostly on my impression of what Congressional Republicans prioritize, so you might be able to CMV if you can provide compelling evidence or reason for why a majority of Republicans woul... | Trump isn't necessarily going to be impeached if Congress goes blue.
Rep. Al Green already started impeachment for the reasons most people dislike Trump and think he should be removed from office for(note removal from office doesn't necessarily have to be the punishment, you can simply censure).
And most Democrats v... | I don't disagree with your overall premise but I think it has nothing to do with Congress being "red" and everything to do with the unlikelihood that Trump actually did anything illegal.
So far, despite around the clock allegations of criminality, there hasn't been proof of really anything. Bombshell story after bomb... | 7r2ppv | CMV: Trump will not resign and will not be impeached as long as Congress remains red. | My view is pretty straightforward, and is based mostly on my impression of what Congressional Republicans prioritize, so you might be able to CMV if you can provide compelling evidence or reason for why a majority of Republicans would willingly impeach Trump.
First, I don't believe that Trump would ever resign for an... | tit_wrangler | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The term "trap", when (properly) used to describe feminine presenting boys (and not trans women), is not a slur.
Before I start my arguments, I have a few things to say. I have been thinking about this for some time, but it was only until the Animemes announcement today that I have decided to actually post this.
... | The issue I have with the word "trap" ,regardless of internalized gender identity, is that it implies malice.
I'm someone who is very much into "traps", as an otherwise "straight" "man", I find the removal of my agency belittling. I'm not tricked by fem boys, I'm attracted to the way they wish to present. There is n... | So, if I may summarize, it sounds like you are trying to make the case that in some contexts, the term "trap" is used in a derogatory way as a slur against trans women, but in other contexts (animemes), it is used in a different way that doesn't have those same negative connotations.
But to modify your view a bit here... | i2uklf | CMV: The term "trap", when (properly) used to describe feminine presenting boys (and not trans women), is not a slur. | Before I start my arguments, I have a few things to say. I have been thinking about this for some time, but it was only until the Animemes announcement today that I have decided to actually post this.
And to be clear on some of my other related stances: Trap used to describe trans women is definitely a slur, this is n... | singletonking | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Racism is Justified in Some Cases
I work in the fast food industry and about 75% of our customers are immigrants from India. They are rude, they make a mess of our lobby, and constantly are stealing drinks. I understand that maybe in their culture they don’t have respect for low income workers like fast food empl... | Could you clearly state, as simply as you can, the racist belief in question that you think is justified?
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> I don’t think the argument that “racism is bad” holds up
How does racism benefit you?
>Getting angry at people for acting out of the ordinary and disrespecting unwritten rules is... | f8mote | CMV: Racism is Justified in Some Cases | I work in the fast food industry and about 75% of our customers are immigrants from India. They are rude, they make a mess of our lobby, and constantly are stealing drinks. I understand that maybe in their culture they don’t have respect for low income workers like fast food employees, but damn do I hate most of our In... | 12342345345645675678 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Senate Filibuster has been de facto eliminated
A lot has been made of Democrats reaching a shutdown ending deal under to avoid a nuclear option in which Senate Republicans eliminate the filibuster. But my view is that if the cost of maintaining the filibuster is to accede to policy demands you have the power ... | The Dems didn’t fold because of the filibuster, they folded cuz they didn’t want to take the political hits in their states of continuing the shutdown. ACA subsidies don’t mean enough to them
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I think you’re wrong abou... | Republicans could have done it and they chose not to. That should show you how delicate and dangerous the eliminating the filibuster is, that a party willing to turn over any stone for a victory knows eventually they won’t be in power, and permanently disenfranchising the minority party’s ability to negotiate will have... | 1oufszr | CMV: The Senate Filibuster has been de facto eliminated | A lot has been made of Democrats reaching a shutdown ending deal under to avoid a nuclear option in which Senate Republicans eliminate the filibuster. But my view is that if the cost of maintaining the filibuster is to accede to policy demands you have the power to prevent through filibuster, then the filibuster doesn’... | Ok_Artichoke_2928 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Rap peaked years ago and will never be as good as it was
Don't get me wrong, there are still plenty of rappers right now who have talent. However, a majority of the modern rap songs I listen to now come from artists who have been around for a long time (mostly Eminem, who is one of the few artists who falls under... | I would pitch to you that there is no such thing as objectively good music, and you like literally every other human being on the planet, have tastes that are shaped by the era in which you grew up.
Every generation feels that their preferred music peaked around the time of their mid/late adolescence. You were more i... | >Nowadays, things are so sloppy...scrolling through social media and being forced to consume shitty, overproduced rap songs made by rappers who can't write their own lyrics or even perform them decently is frustrating.
This is a side effect of the oversaturation of all forms of art - it sounds like you consume rap con... | 1haqzj4 | CMV: Rap peaked years ago and will never be as good as it was | Don't get me wrong, there are still plenty of rappers right now who have talent. However, a majority of the modern rap songs I listen to now come from artists who have been around for a long time (mostly Eminem, who is one of the few artists who falls under this category). Rap isn't my favorite genre in the first place... | HeroOfTime_21 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: The most efficient way to end police brutality is to make cops criminally liable for their actions on the job and stop funding their legal defense with public money.
I think this is the fastest way to reduce incidents of police brutality. Simply make them accountable the same as everyone else for their choices.
... | The problem is that lawsuits against only the officer don't really happen. The city is included (and usually the main defendant) in the lawsuit.
I think requiring the cops to carry insurance to cover legal fees would work better. It doesn't immediately cripple someone's finances if they are sued, and begins to force ... | There's a lot of different angles I could go about changing your view on this matter, but you used this line so I think I want to go with that:
> think this is the fastest way to reduce incidents of police brutality.
So did you know that when police bodycams are used properly, [complaints against police drop by 93%... | gsfthg | CMV: The most efficient way to end police brutality is to make cops criminally liable for their actions on the job and stop funding their legal defense with public money. | I think this is the fastest way to reduce incidents of police brutality. Simply make them accountable the same as everyone else for their choices.
If violent cops had to pay their own legal fees and were held to a higher standard of conduct there would be very few violent cops left on the street in six months.
The sy... | Wyrdeone | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: The minimum wage should be abolished. It is what keep wages low.
I think there shouldn't exist any minimum wage laws. This causes companies to legally have a reference for a what is the minimum that all other companies can pay and get away with it. If the minimum wage didn't exist, there would be a struggle for w... | "find a sweet spot for keeping employees and profiting"
The problem is here. The sweet spot for keeping employees is literally any amount of money that's not too much less than nearby options. People don't have the option not to work. They can change employers, but those employers at lower level positions will have no... | People will work because they have to. With no min wage people would suffer.
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This is always the case, people work because they have to. By having a minimum wage its a reference for a company to not pay more because all other companies around them are paying the same.
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Or, it's a reference to say "The compan... | 9pm63i | CMV: The minimum wage should be abolished. It is what keep wages low. | I think there shouldn't exist any minimum wage laws. This causes companies to legally have a reference for a what is the minimum that all other companies can pay and get away with it. If the minimum wage didn't exist, there would be a struggle for what is the lowest amount that could be paid, and it would be difficult ... | arnoldone | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There is absolutely no way to justify killing living beings for culinary enjoyment
The whole rethoric used to justify eating meat is based around lazy fallacies. None of these arguments hold to close scrutiny.
Before I delve into the different arguments and why they are terrible, I'd like to state that vegetarian... | Every plant you eat was also killed for your culinary enjoyment. unless you are denying that plants are alive, which would at least be novel.
That kind of makes your title senseless.
>Animals experience pain and empathy
and there is no way to justify killing beings that experience pain and empathy? I'm guessing is y... | I justify the killing of living beings for culinary enjoyment because they are delicious.
I understand the pain it causes these creatures, as well as the resources it takes to produce - but I justify this because it is really really tasty and therefore I find that outweighs the other arguments.
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Not really a “jus... | 1bikdg8 | CMV: There is absolutely no way to justify killing living beings for culinary enjoyment | The whole rethoric used to justify eating meat is based around lazy fallacies. None of these arguments hold to close scrutiny.
Before I delve into the different arguments and why they are terrible, I'd like to state that vegetarian diet is a choice. I am not debating whether everyone should stop eating meat. This is no... | analcocoacream | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The US federal government will enact an assault weapons ban and required registry by 2024
At this point, I think Democrats could retain their majority in the House (even if by the skin of their teeth) and maybe pick up a handful of Senate seats. 5 Republican senators are retiring in 2022 and 3 of them are in swin... | The assumption you are making is that this doesn't get shut down by the Supreme Court. I can't say that will or will not happen but the SCOTUS is too big of a factor to leave out of your argument.
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So you believe that this gun law will be a reality soon?
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CMV: The US federal government will enact an assault weapons ban and required registry by 2024
At this point, I think Democrats could retain their majority in the House (even if by the skin of their teeth) and maybe pick up a handful of Senate seats. 5 Republican senators are retiring in 2022 and 3 of them are in swin... | The assumption you are making is that this doesn't get shut down by the Supreme Court. I can't say that will or will not happen but the SCOTUS is too big of a factor to leave out of your argument.
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Cmv: it’s better to be a man than a woman
Few (but not all) reasons include:
- no periods
- no pregnancy
- dads get wayyyyyy more slack than mom in society
- higher pay for the same job
- physically stronger (and faster) on average
- more respected in society
- everything is designed for male bodies (ppe and ... | If you’re just venting, then OK. I think being a woman would be really hard and have lots of unfair shit you have to deal with. That sucks, and we should acknowledge and fix those things.
But if you really think women have no real advantages over men, that’s kinda crazy. Men are more likely to be violently assaulted, ... | You are going to be ripped apart but the guys here 🥲, good luck.
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Yeah i figured but whatever they almost never has any truth to it or they just try to convince me that “misandry” is a thing so idc.
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Are you saying that misandry isn't a thing? | 18vngr5 | Cmv: it’s better to be a man than a woman |
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cmv: YouTube censorship is on a slippery slope
YouTube censorship is on a slippery slope. Why on earth are certain words being bleeped out of videos. It's a weird version of censorship and I don't think it's healthy. Adults should be allowed to watch a video about a court case without every other word blanked out. And... | You have a right to freedom of speech, but YouTube also has a right to censor their platform however they see fit. You have a right to say anything, but others will always have a right to respond whichever way they choose.
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But what if YouTube suppresses a video I wanted to see because the algorithm says so.
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Agreed. Why are we stopping people using certain words online and trying to stop people expressing their opinions. It won't change their mind
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I really have no idea, any word individually is harmless, it’s all about the context of it. Cracking down on people saying certain words just gives those wo... | ltk8jj | cmv: YouTube censorship is on a slippery slope | YouTube censorship is on a slippery slope. Why on earth are certain words being bleeped out of videos. It's a weird version of censorship and I don't think it's healthy. Adults should be allowed to watch a video about a court case without every other word blanked out. And YouTubers should be able to put videos up witho... | TimeForTheGiraffe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: An AI Doomsday Scenario Will Not Happen
Lately (over the few recent years) I've been hearing talk about how one of the most likely doomsday scenarios for the human race will by a super-intelligent AI.
I like Elon Musk, but I think he's way wrong on this. In my opinion, there is little to no danger of an AI being ... | > Here is my reasoning: in order to maximize the chances of the AI wiping out humanity, it would have to be developed to have the ability for killing human beings. Meaning, it would have to be developed as a weapon for military purposes.
It doesn’t have to have a military purpose. A hospital AI might intentionally alt... | >Here is my reasoning: in order to maximize the chances of the AI wiping out humanity, it would have to be developed to have the ability for killing human beings. Meaning, it would have to be developed as a weapon for military purposes.
This is not the main concern. The threat is in the recursive self-improvement. If ... | 9plwrs | CMV: An AI Doomsday Scenario Will Not Happen | Lately (over the few recent years) I've been hearing talk about how one of the most likely doomsday scenarios for the human race will by a super-intelligent AI.
I like Elon Musk, but I think he's way wrong on this. In my opinion, there is little to no danger of an AI being the cause of humanity's extinction or near-ext... | DuvetShmuvet | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Hair should not be gendered
Often, I get remarks about my hair looking like a female's hair due to its long length. Personally, I believe it looks better long, but apparently that makes me more feminine. Why have we associated a gender with how long a person's hair is? This doesn't make any sense, it has no real ... | Is your position that people's preference for longer hair on women is 100% socially constructed?
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It's more that within the social norms of gender there isn't a logical or otherwise reason for females to have longer hair and males shorter.
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Do you think that all gender norms have a logical base?
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I think... | Do you think anything should be gendered? Like skirts or the color pink?
Scotts and Samurai are known for being manly men in skirts, and in the early 1900's pink was the common color for boys and blue for girls since pink was seen as a stronger color.
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Some things are gendered because they make sense to be gender... | 9pkrtf | CMV: Hair should not be gendered | Often, I get remarks about my hair looking like a female's hair due to its long length. Personally, I believe it looks better long, but apparently that makes me more feminine. Why have we associated a gender with how long a person's hair is? This doesn't make any sense, it has no real historical domination, and it is f... | Chake1 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Hair should not be gendered
Often, I get remarks about my hair looking like a female's hair due to its long length. Personally, I believe it looks better long, but apparently that makes me more feminine. Why have we associated a gender with how long a person's hair is? This doesn't make any sense, it has no real ... | Do you think anything should be gendered? Like skirts or the color pink?
Scotts and Samurai are known for being manly men in skirts, and in the early 1900's pink was the common color for boys and blue for girls since pink was seen as a stronger color.
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Some things are gendered because they make sense to be gender... | Is your position that people's preference for longer hair on women is 100% socially constructed?
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It's more that within the social norms of gender there isn't a logical or otherwise reason for females to have longer hair and males shorter.
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Do you think that all gender norms have a logical base? | 9pkrtf | CMV: Hair should not be gendered | Often, I get remarks about my hair looking like a female's hair due to its long length. Personally, I believe it looks better long, but apparently that makes me more feminine. Why have we associated a gender with how long a person's hair is? This doesn't make any sense, it has no real historical domination, and it is f... | Chake1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Real Estate markets should limit participation to local residents only.
For context, I’m not a home owner and this is specifically talking about American Real Estate though I imagine others might feel similar. Only recently have my wife and I made enough income to even consider ourselves middle class.
My fathe... | This strengthens landlords and short-term rentals because the only way to move is to go through them. You can't buy property in another jurisdiction until you move there and you can't make money from selling your property after you move; this means the only way to move is to move into an apartment, sell your house, mov... | Why? You don't ever explain why you believe this. What do you hope this would accomplish?
What makes real estate special in comparison to anything else? Why not make phones, cars, food made outside your neighborhood illegal too?
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Consumer goods aren’t locked to place. Real Estate is. Real Estate also has signific... | 1bi8gsw | CMV: Real Estate markets should limit participation to local residents only. | For context, I’m not a home owner and this is specifically talking about American Real Estate though I imagine others might feel similar. Only recently have my wife and I made enough income to even consider ourselves middle class.
My father worked for a significant chunk of his life to escape the poverty that his fam... | Inferno_Zyrack | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The most effective protest against Reddit's policies would be to post and mass upvote very offensive content
Now, I personally don't actually care about 3rd party apps at all. But something that bothers me more than anyrhing is watching ineffective protests. You're just gonna get off reddit, so their ad revenue g... | Wont work, they'll just pivot to "see, its only bigots who have a problem with out plans". Happens every time some one does something dumb as fuck. They blame on racist, homophobes and sexists in an effort to move the conversation away from the dumb thing they did. Like "the Star Wars sequels are shit, you just hate wo... | Visiting reddit makes reddit money. The best protest is to not provide Reddit with revenue. So not using reddit is the best and most effective protest.
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If the content is wildly offensive, fewer people will open the site in public.
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So, what about people who don't frequently use it and aren't up to date with ... | 1460we4 | CMV: The most effective protest against Reddit's policies would be to post and mass upvote very offensive content | Now, I personally don't actually care about 3rd party apps at all. But something that bothers me more than anyrhing is watching ineffective protests. You're just gonna get off reddit, so their ad revenue goes down a bit? A) most people won't and B) that's not going to make a huge impact. Oh you're gonna make your sub g... | BackAlleySurgeon | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Elizabeth Warren's decision to release her DNA results, and the way in which they were released, was both strategically and morally wrong
There are two components to my argument. First, I believe that releasing the results, in the manner that she did, will strategically/politically hurt her chances in 2020.
* ... | [deleted]
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Hmm. Interesting take. I guess I will award you a conditional delta if that's a thing. While I stand by my statement my moral objections to the way she went about this, I think that if indeed she isn't going to run in 2020 this strategy makes more sense.
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>I guess I will award you a conditional d... | Multiple members of her family on her maternal side were registered Native Americans and her parents told her they eloped because her paternal side of the family did not like that her mom was part Cherokee/Delaware. That sort of thing does impact how you form your own identity and affect how you view race.
There hasn'... | 9pb1fp | CMV: Elizabeth Warren's decision to release her DNA results, and the way in which they were released, was both strategically and morally wrong | There are two components to my argument. First, I believe that releasing the results, in the manner that she did, will strategically/politically hurt her chances in 2020.
* It makes it look like she is stooping to Trump's level: by playing ball with Trump, she has taken the bait and is now stooping to his level of ad ... | Admira1Jackbar | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Politics is not downstream of pop culture media - Pop Culture Media has no effect on politics and institutions!
It has become super common on Tiktok, Youtube and other social media platforms to condemn or praise popular media based on its political messaging (“woke” and “problematic” come to mind); or to frame po... | Does art not affect us and our philosophies? If propaganda wasn't at all effective, why would it continue to be made? And if propaganda can be effective, why can't pop culture have a propagandistic effect?
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Do you honestly believe Black Panther made America *less racist*?
Don’t you think material conditions can a... |
>Birth of a Nation is not responsible for segregation;
Birth of a nation directly influenced the recreation of the Klu Klux klan.
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Was America tolerant before Birth of a Nation?
Last time I checked, black people had a LOT more to... | 1bi0hf8 | CMV: Politics is not downstream of pop culture media - Pop Culture Media has no effect on politics and institutions! | It has become super common on Tiktok, Youtube and other social media platforms to condemn or praise popular media based on its political messaging (“woke” and “problematic” come to mind); or to frame political arguments in the context of popular media like comic book movies, YA literature, anime, or video games. There’... | Majestic-Pair9676 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There are mean IQ gaps between African and non-African populations that are partially explained by heritable factors
This is a position I've been struggling with lately. If I'm correct, it doesn't make me want to reject my egalitarian political beliefs, but it does make me feel a little uncomfortable about the he... | >This is a position I've been struggling with lately. If I'm correct, it doesn't make me want to reject my egalitarian political beliefs, but it does make me feel a little uncomfortable about the heritability of socially valued traits liked intelligence, and the effect that this might have on unequal outcomes between r... | You're using the words "genetic" and "inheritable" interchangeably here.
In fact, many aspects of culture are inheritable as well. One example is language: a language pretty much has to use itself as a basis for the language in the new generation, otherwise communication would be impossible. A more consequential e... | 602xe7 | CMV: There are mean IQ gaps between African and non-African populations that are partially explained by heritable factors | This is a position I've been struggling with lately. If I'm correct, it doesn't make me want to reject my egalitarian political beliefs, but it does make me feel a little uncomfortable about the heritability of socially valued traits liked intelligence, and the effect that this might have on unequal outcomes between ra... | devin_d | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Dogs should be kept on a leash in public places
I had a bad experience with a dog and my baby at a public park today. The dog was let off of its leash, came charging up to me and my baby, and started very aggressively barking/snarling. When the owner was calling it to come back to her, it took a few minutes for t... | The issue here is that the majority of people will probably agree with you. You're challenging a small minority of people. Within that group though it's a mix of those who know how to train a dog and those who some would refer to as bad pet owners. I've met a lot of dogs and owners in my time and can count less than ... | [removed]
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I think I'm just really curious if someone can present a really good argument for letting dogs off leash
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I don’t think anyone can present a good argument against the importance of keeping dogs on a leash. Leash laws are there to protect the public and the dog.
At an off leash dog park sure... le... | lsy1vi | CMV: Dogs should be kept on a leash in public places | I had a bad experience with a dog and my baby at a public park today. The dog was let off of its leash, came charging up to me and my baby, and started very aggressively barking/snarling. When the owner was calling it to come back to her, it took a few minutes for the dog to obey. There wasn't really anything I could d... | OrdinaryDust195 | 3 | 3 | [
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I had a bad experience with a dog and my baby at a public park today. The dog was let off of its leash, came charging up to me and my baby, and started very aggressively barking/snarling. When the owner was calling it to come back to her, it took a few minutes for t... | [removed]
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I had a bad experience with a dog and my baby at a public park today. The dog was let off of its leash, came charging up to me and my baby, and started very aggressively barking/snarling. When the owner was calling it to come back to her, it took a few minutes for t... | This comes down to two concerns; safety of others versus the welfare of the dog. In a perfect world you'd have both but you're right that safety of others trumps the welfare of the dog.
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The value of a leash depends on the training level of the animal. Well-trained dogs simply don't need a leash. Few dogs are as well-trained as their owners think they are.
When a dog is well-... | lsy1vi | CMV: Dogs should be kept on a leash in public places | I had a bad experience with a dog and my baby at a public park today. The dog was let off of its leash, came charging up to me and my baby, and started very aggressively barking/snarling. When the owner was calling it to come back to her, it took a few minutes for the dog to obey. There wasn't really anything I could d... | OrdinaryDust195 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: No news have given a convincing and well contexed evidence of Russian building up military in Ukraine border.
I'm going to give 3 examples:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/01/07/world/europe/ukraine-maps.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/17/russia-ukraine-crisis-putin-troops-visual-guide-... | How about: The only thing Russia has denied is that they're going to invade. They have acknowledged their troops along the border, they've also announced a 140 ship excersize in the ocean.
They're fully admitting the buildup. They simply deny the west's accusation of its purpose.
Belarus has done the same.
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> Th... | I'm actually interested in your view. I have seen before and afters along with eyewitness accounts from locals on the ground. Plus, war games require some build up
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russia-deploying-s-400s-belarus-ahead-joint-exercises-199887
However, the Ukrainians seem unperturbed https://www.k... | scx1e4 | CMV: No news have given a convincing and well contexed evidence of Russian building up military in Ukraine border. | I'm going to give 3 examples:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/01/07/world/europe/ukraine-maps.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/17/russia-ukraine-crisis-putin-troops-visual-guide-explainer
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/russia-troops-ukraine-border-satellite-photos
(If yo... | BeatriceBernardo | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: A botched execution is not a valid reason for abolition of the death penalty
I’d like to start this off by saying that capital punishment is not a nice thing, but I think their are certain punishments that do warrant a death sentence. Murder, child murder, particularly horrific sex crimes etc.
I also feel no sy... | Do you really want to live right next to the guy who goes to the execution plant works a 9-5 and then comes home though?
Seems like the ripple effects on society just aren't worth doing executions.
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In some countries homosexuality is punishable by death. Would you at least feel sympathy for people who get executed for this reason? Recently in... | 145t55i | CMV: A botched execution is not a valid reason for abolition of the death penalty | I’d like to start this off by saying that capital punishment is not a nice thing, but I think their are certain punishments that do warrant a death sentence. Murder, child murder, particularly horrific sex crimes etc.
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CMV: A botched execution is not a valid reason for abolition of the death penalty
I’d like to start this off by saying that capital punishment is not a nice thing, but I think their are certain punishments that do warrant a death sentence. Murder, child murder, particularly horrific sex crimes etc.
I also feel no sy... | >I also feel no sympathy for those who commit crimes abroad, fully aware of the draconian laws that exist within those territories, and subsequently face the death penalty.
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Seems like the ripple effects on society just aren't worth doing executions.
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CMV: "Mad Max: Fury Road" (2015) is a feminist movie.
My argument is that [Mad Max: Fury Road](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392190/) is a feminist movie. For the sake of this argument, I'll define 'feminism' as the social movement that advocates for women's rights and equality.
Here is an explanation of what I thin... | >It criticises patriarchy and male dominant power structures. Immortan Joe is a patriarch, and he is a despotic warlord.
But that's just your reading of the situation. I read it more as criticism of authoritarianism than of paitriarchy.
>It criticises toxic masculinity. Joe's polygamy is an essential component of hi... | Quick question so I understand: are you aware of any counter arguments? What compelled you to post this?
I would say that while the movie itself promotes women's rights, you could make the argument that the creative team behind it was mostly men, and therefore it was a movie with feminist themes but not a feminist cre... | 8nmwt7 | CMV: "Mad Max: Fury Road" (2015) is a feminist movie. | My argument is that [Mad Max: Fury Road](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392190/) is a feminist movie. For the sake of this argument, I'll define 'feminism' as the social movement that advocates for women's rights and equality.
Here is an explanation of what I think a feminist movie is and isn't. A feminist movie need ... | gkkiller | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Kevin Durant made a perfectly reasonable decision to play for Golden State this year and doesn't deserve the derision he's received
Kevin Durant has received a lot of flack for leaving Oklahoma City and going to the Warriors. I think as a free agent, he had the right to go wherever he wanted. I also think that mo... | I think the issue most people have with his decision is *not* playing for GS. It's that he left the only team in the West that showed that it was close to capable of beating them.
KD and the Thunder were up 3-1 in the WCF against the Warriors in 2016. They were one game away from being back in the finals where they ... | I think /u/CLEfactoryofsadness gave an excellent answer, but I want to address this notion that it's his job to win and make money. It's his job to do what we the fans want. His job is to entertain us after all. Winning with such a talent disparity doesn't entertain fans of anyone but the team winning. So it is par... | 6igdhw | CMV: Kevin Durant made a perfectly reasonable decision to play for Golden State this year and doesn't deserve the derision he's received | Kevin Durant has received a lot of flack for leaving Oklahoma City and going to the Warriors. I think as a free agent, he had the right to go wherever he wanted. I also think that most of us in his shoes would have done the same thing--go to a place where you can make a lot of money and win a championship. I think the ... | head_high_water | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Mind Reading/Mind Control tech is inevitable because the consciousness and thought are biological
I saw a post recently on ALS patients being able to operate a computer by having electrodes implanted directly into the brain. These electrodes would then send the appropriate signal to the computer to perform the ac... | Let's talk about something much simpler than the brain for a moment: Let's consider gas in a jar.
At this point we've got a pretty good understanding of 'gas in a jar' and have been using it in our machines for hundreds of years. We also have really good theories about how "all the little bits" in gas work - stuff... | The examples you give are only going one way- electromagnetic signals from the brain being detected. There's no evidence that electromagnetic waves that directly influence the brain can be generated. Aside from implanting something directly inside a person's skull, there's not even a theoretical basis for the mind cont... | a70jjr | CMV: Mind Reading/Mind Control tech is inevitable because the consciousness and thought are biological | I saw a post recently on ALS patients being able to operate a computer by having electrodes implanted directly into the brain. These electrodes would then send the appropriate signal to the computer to perform the action they need. In the case of the article it was moving a mouse around. This is an example of technolog... | kalavala93 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should take Desmond Tutu's advice of "Don't raise your voice, improve your argument".
This question is inspired by this news article: [St Kilda’s Captain Cook statue doused in red paint in Australia Day protest](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/scp39h/st_kildas_captain_cook_statue_doused_in_red_pain... | [deleted]
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> who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season.... | What improved arguments did the civil rights movement and Alan Turing make? 'Look at how victimized we are' isn't an argument, especially from Turing's case, because he didn't even make an argument, he was just victimized.
Also, do you want people to improve their arguments, or do you want people to make scare tactics... | sctw6c | CMV: We should take Desmond Tutu's advice of "Don't raise your voice, improve your argument". | This question is inspired by this news article: [St Kilda’s Captain Cook statue doused in red paint in Australia Day protest](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/scp39h/st_kildas_captain_cook_statue_doused_in_red_paint/). I understand that Australia Day offends a lot of people, and that we most definitely do no... | Real_Carl_Ramirez | 2 | 2 | [
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This question is inspired by this news article: [St Kilda’s Captain Cook statue doused in red paint in Australia Day protest](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/scp39h/st_kildas_captain_cook_statue_doused_in_red_pain... | [deleted]
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> who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season.... | Our first civil rights bill in the 60s didn’t become law because Black people like Martin Luther King improved their arguments. It became law because one white man with great power, Lyndon Johnson, stood up for them. Ironically Johnson was a racist and segregationist.
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CMV: When Hasidic Jewish women wear wigs, it defeats the purpose of not showing their hair.
I really want to understand this, especially if I've got it wrong.
As I understand it, there is a belief in Hasidic Judaism that a woman's hair is sexually enticing, and so women are expected to keep it covered. That I get, b... | The explanation I heard from one Orthodox Jew is as follows: it's not a Divine commandment, it's a custom dating back to Eastern Europe. Many nobles believed in the old tradition of prima noctem: that the lord got the first night with a newly-married woman. If she had cut her hair as part of the wedding, he might be ... | This isn't unique to Hasidism either, I used to work with a few muslim women who would wear hijabs (hair coverings that stem from the same religious suggestions that females should be sexually modest), but would wear skin tight jeans, high heels and perfume.
My reading of it is just human nature to interpret things ho... | 5zzuei | CMV: When Hasidic Jewish women wear wigs, it defeats the purpose of not showing their hair. | I really want to understand this, especially if I've got it wrong.
As I understand it, there is a belief in Hasidic Judaism that a woman's hair is sexually enticing, and so women are expected to keep it covered. That I get, but I don't see how wearing a wig is really seen as an appropriate covering. A wig, by design... | cassandras_eyes | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: You cant reference your “background” in a scientific subject when you didn’t finish your undergrad in that subject.
Hey everyone! I’m currently in paramedic school, and have a honours degree in neuroscience from when I was younger. In my current program, there are a few individuals who constantly reference their... | You have some academic elitism going on here.
Consider that the first professors were the people who actually did the work without having a degree themselves.
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Completely agree. However, this person has never done any formal research or been hired for lab work in any aspect, which I would consider important to... | Isn't this just gatekeeping opinions?
An example of how stupid this can get is when someone says it counts once you have a post grad degree meaning you have no background. Then someone walks up to them and says, no you need a post grad degree in a top 10 school. Then someone walks up to them and says, no you need to... | 1hagzir | CMV: You cant reference your “background” in a scientific subject when you didn’t finish your undergrad in that subject. | Hey everyone! I’m currently in paramedic school, and have a honours degree in neuroscience from when I was younger. In my current program, there are a few individuals who constantly reference their previous knowledge in various scientific fields (neuroscience, kinesiology, biology, etc). However, after talking with the... | theweepingarmadillo | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: As a democracy-supporting Hongkonger, the US potentially revoking Hong Kong's special trade status won't benefit me
As a pro-democratic Hongkonger, I'm conflicted by the Trump administration potentially revoking Hong Kong's special trade status with the US. On the one hand, I'm happy that the US is trying to do s... | It would at least partially block China from accessing the financial market for the US dollar, the world’s de facto reserve currency
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Sure, but could you justify the magnitude of this impact? In other words, would this be enough of an incentive for China to, say, revoke the national security law? My view is that w... | This move isn't meant to primarily benefit Hoong Kong citizens. It's meant to help the US, and at the same time HURT China. It's incidental that it may or may not be beneficial or detrimental to Hong Kong. As long as the actions hurt China, then we have accomplished our goals. Coupled with the inevitable tariffs, t... | gs5e2e | CMV: As a democracy-supporting Hongkonger, the US potentially revoking Hong Kong's special trade status won't benefit me | As a pro-democratic Hongkonger, I'm conflicted by the Trump administration potentially revoking Hong Kong's special trade status with the US. On the one hand, I'm happy that the US is trying to do something to address China's ever-tightening grip on the city. On the other hand, I'm having a difficult time seeing how th... | 053537 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: the entire “humans weren’t meant to be monogamous” argument falls apart when you take children into account.
I often come across discussions that center around the fact that now humans live such a long lifetime, monogamy is unrealistic and out-dated. But every study I have ever read on the topic of childhood seem... | The idea of children needing a home with two parents is more of a cultural aspect of western society than something inherent. There are other arrangements. Some cultures take a more community rearing approach where the individual parents aren't so important and children will be raised as children of the whole village... | You're juxtaposing claims from two different frames and timescales.
1. the claim that monogamy is on a broad evolutionary scale - 100s of 1000s of years.
2. the studies you're citing are about contemporary society and standards. So much is different - e.g. there is less community involvement in child rearing than ev... | nj811m | CMV: the entire “humans weren’t meant to be monogamous” argument falls apart when you take children into account. | I often come across discussions that center around the fact that now humans live such a long lifetime, monogamy is unrealistic and out-dated. But every study I have ever read on the topic of childhood seems to prove children have the best outcomes in a two parent home with parents who have a good relationship.
I don’... | thesetcrew | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The only logically way to reconcile the abortion debate is to admit that abortion ends a human life, but also that protection of human life is not always the primary concern of the law.
I'm pro-choice, but I also think that the traditional talking points on both sides completely ignore those on the other side.
... | > The simple fact is that trying to define the point at which a zygote or a fetus becomes "a person" is pointless. Any dividing line you come up with is going to be arbitrary and subject to changes in technology or random chance. The only logical point at which to define a pre-born person as a human life is at concepti... | The good thing about choosing "viability" as the breaking point is that is makes clear what the actual boundary is:
You don't get to use another person's body against their will, and if stopping you requires killing you, so be it.
However, if something less than lethal force can effectively be used, it must be.
--... | 6ihcuk | CMV: The only logically way to reconcile the abortion debate is to admit that abortion ends a human life, but also that protection of human life is not always the primary concern of the law. | I'm pro-choice, but I also think that the traditional talking points on both sides completely ignore those on the other side.
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CMV: Homeless people should not be given money when they panhandle.
It encourages them to be lazy and gets them used to getting things for free and discourages them from working for things. It gives them a sense of entitlement where they feel that they are entitled to getting free money from you when they aren't enti... | You're technically right about the conclusion, but not for the reasons you state.
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It encourages them to be lazy and gets them used to getting things for free and discourages them from working for things. It gives them a sense of entitlement where they feel that they are entitled to getting free money from you when they aren't enti... | It’s not like they are going to take your spare change and buy a condo in Miami Beach. Strong incentives to work and not panhandle already exist, but people who are begging to change are usually unable to do this for a variety of reasons,
most having to do with mental illness. So give or don’t give money, but don’t rat... | You're technically right about the conclusion, but not for the reasons you state.
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CMV: Destiny and fate are terrifying and restrictive
People and especially stories love to talk about ideas like fate, but I’ve never understood it. Doesn’t it terrify you that your future is already decided and nothing you do will change it? What’s the point of trying or putting in effort if it’s already gonna happen... | I think there are two reasons:
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CMV: there’s nothing intrinsically wrong with large age gaps in relationships between adults, so it shouldn’t be stigmatized or criminalized
I think basically because in the modern age it’s so hard for adults to find partners, age differences should not be stigmatized or criminalized. I’m a girl if this means anything... | How does grooming and abuse fit into this view?
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I think people just generally have either this childish "Icky" reaction, or an Envy reaction of "How come this older person is getting young partners I want / partners younger than I am,... | 18vcwqh | CMV: there’s nothing intrinsically wrong with large age gaps in relationships between adults, so it shouldn’t be stigmatized or criminalized | I think basically because in the modern age it’s so hard for adults to find partners, age differences should not be stigmatized or criminalized. I’m a girl if this means anything. This means an 18 year old should be able to date a 25 year old, even though I’d imagine the divorce/breakup rate would be like ten times mor... | their-holiness | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Accelerationism is a valid philosophy.
Accelerationism is the leftist viewpoint that capitalism will eventually collapse under its own weight and that the way to bring socialist revolution is to accelerate capitalism by voting as rightwing as possible.
The viewpoint assumes that
- This will highlight the absur... | Wouldn't you agree that simply from an effectiveness POV, this empirically hasn't worked?
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From my perspective it has. Trump's presidency is responsible for many people turning to socialism. Its on the rise in a big way.
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How did you figure out causality on that one? It's always been plainly obvious to most p... | One of the explicit goals of right-wing politicians is to maintain their power using any means necessary. Examples include removing any limits on money in politics, increased voter suppression of groups that vote left-wing, filling the courts with lifetime-appointed right-wing judges, etc.
The effect is that the more ... | epmx5x | CMV: Accelerationism is a valid philosophy. | Accelerationism is the leftist viewpoint that capitalism will eventually collapse under its own weight and that the way to bring socialist revolution is to accelerate capitalism by voting as rightwing as possible.
The viewpoint assumes that
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CMV: Marriage should be finite in length with the option to re-establish or not at the end of the contract
I'm 50M, happily married, and I acknowledge that marriage is broken in a lot of ways. I think if marriages were finite in length, or at least could be opted by the couple to be finite, then married couples could ... | Just end marriage at that point. It’s outlived it’s purpose.
We’ve gone from marriage being a religious lifelong commitment, to a life long commitment, to a non-permanent commitment and now you’re suggesting it just be a temporary commitment.
Eventually marriage is gonna become so diluted that dating will be seen as ... | It would be a better idea to not have marriage.
Why give social benefits to people in partnerships? It's already easier because you can share bills, buy a house together and have an emotional team.
You might argue that you should support marriages because of children, but in fact, you could just support parents, whet... | 18um720 | CMV: Marriage should be finite in length with the option to re-establish or not at the end of the contract | I'm 50M, happily married, and I acknowledge that marriage is broken in a lot of ways. I think if marriages were finite in length, or at least could be opted by the couple to be finite, then married couples could much more easily amicably break up at the end of the contract and move on with whatever they want to do next... | daywrecker2012 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Married couples should not get tax benefits simply for being married.
The concept of bestowing tax benefits for getting married is a relic of a bygone era when women were not allowed to work, or were not allowed to work jobs that paid substantial amounts of money. Thus, in these situations, the husband was now r... | The benefit isn't universal for getting married. In fact, many couples will see their tax bills *rise* after marriage. Basically, if the couples have disparate incomes--one earns significantly more than the other--then yes, there is a tax break. If two couples with a roughly equal income get married, they actually face... | I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're missing 2 big points:
1) The government's compelling interest in subsidizing child-rearing is not benevolence - it's that children (especially when raised well) can become productive members of society, which benefits the government
2) There's an at least tenu... | 8nl7ry | CMV: Married couples should not get tax benefits simply for being married. | The concept of bestowing tax benefits for getting married is a relic of a bygone era when women were not allowed to work, or were not allowed to work jobs that paid substantial amounts of money. Thus, in these situations, the husband was now required to essentially support two people with his single income. Therefore... | Justgoahead123 | 3 | 3 | [
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The concept of bestowing tax benefits for getting married is a relic of a bygone era when women were not allowed to work, or were not allowed to work jobs that paid substantial amounts of money. Thus, in these situations, the husband was now r... | The benefit isn't universal for getting married. In fact, many couples will see their tax bills *rise* after marriage. Basically, if the couples have disparate incomes--one earns significantly more than the other--then yes, there is a tax break. If two couples with a roughly equal income get married, they actually face... | Marriage provides a safety net to people so that society doesn't have to. You as an individual are basically screwed if you lose your job. Hopefully you've saved enough!
You as a spouse are slightly less screwed if you lose your job, hopefully you've saved enough but you can also have your spouse work to help offset y... | 8nl7ry | CMV: Married couples should not get tax benefits simply for being married. | The concept of bestowing tax benefits for getting married is a relic of a bygone era when women were not allowed to work, or were not allowed to work jobs that paid substantial amounts of money. Thus, in these situations, the husband was now required to essentially support two people with his single income. Therefore... | Justgoahead123 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pitbulls should be culled
A controversial one here and a part of me wants to change my opinion but I’ve always been very steadfast on this.
Pitbulls are fucking disgusting creatures. They were/are bred for pure violence. They have the temperament of a chihuahua except they’re big and strong enough to do genuine... | Aren't there only like 30 deaths a year from pit bulls in the US? I don't think that's enough to warrant a pit bull genocide.
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I was bitten around 5 times as a carrier. None of them were from a pit bull, twice from a chihuahuas (obviously it did n... | nj200t | CMV: Pitbulls should be culled | A controversial one here and a part of me wants to change my opinion but I’ve always been very steadfast on this.
Pitbulls are fucking disgusting creatures. They were/are bred for pure violence. They have the temperament of a chihuahua except they’re big and strong enough to do genuine damage to humans and other dogs... | uknxwnmxn | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pitbulls should be culled
A controversial one here and a part of me wants to change my opinion but I’ve always been very steadfast on this.
Pitbulls are fucking disgusting creatures. They were/are bred for pure violence. They have the temperament of a chihuahua except they’re big and strong enough to do genuine... | I'm guessing you've never been around a pit bull. My dad had one and it was the most loving dog I've ever been around. She always wanted to be touching someone, was very gentle, and very well behaved.
Dogs will act based on how they are raised.
Ive seen way more violent angry chihuahuas than any other breed.
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I was bitten around 5 times as a carrier. None of them were from a pit bull, twice from a chihuahuas (obviously it did n... | nj200t | CMV: Pitbulls should be culled | A controversial one here and a part of me wants to change my opinion but I’ve always been very steadfast on this.
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CMV: Throaway accounts are useless if you put essential information in your posts
Posts that contain information like "me (23f) and my husband (26m) have 2 children, 7 and 9 [...]" Used in a throaway account because "my SO knows my main" or "my SO follows this subreddit" totally defeats the purpose of being anonymous
... | How sure are you that the information provided is accurate?
Could it be possible they lie about those circumstances in an effort to throw off the people they are hiding said posts from?
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either the info is relevant or it isn't. If it is, it wouldnt be wise to lie, and if it isn't, why include it in the first pla... | Some quick points:
* Security is never about guaranteeing something doesn't happen, it's about making the odds lower. It is very easy to see what somebody posted if you're following the account. It is much harder to stumble upon a post and realize it's describing your situation, even in subreddits you follow.
* Most o... | gs82wp | CMV: Throaway accounts are useless if you put essential information in your posts | Posts that contain information like "me (23f) and my husband (26m) have 2 children, 7 and 9 [...]" Used in a throaway account because "my SO knows my main" or "my SO follows this subreddit" totally defeats the purpose of being anonymous
I mean, how many people on a subreddit fall in this precise distribution of a fami... | interesting_nonsense | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: (I hate furries because) The furry fandom is a fetish community that unhealthily revolves around porn and sex
The furry fandom functions as a fetish community. It is awash in porn and essentially is a fetish. There may well be a social community and non-sexual things that occur, but the interest is sexual in natu... |
All forms of sexuality are *transgressive*, meaning they break the rules of public social life. This is what makes sex a powerful experience and an important part of being human. We are all aroused by indulging in something forbidden; even if you are just talking about a married couple enjoying themselves in the pr... | First off, you are free to hate whoever you want.
Do you hate all communities that revolve around sex? How about a swingers community or the literal porn community? How do you determine something whether something sexual is healthy or unhealthy?
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CMV: (I hate furries because) The furry fandom is a fetish community that unhealthily revolves around porn and sex
The furry fandom functions as a fetish community. It is awash in porn and essentially is a fetish. There may well be a social community and non-sexual things that occur, but the interest is sexual in natu... | Can you actually cite that the community is awash in sex? Last I heard most furries aren't into the sexual aspects, it's just the ones that are are quite loud and vocal about it.
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CMV: (I hate furries because) The furry fandom is a fetish community that unhealthily revolves around porn and sex
The furry fandom functions as a fetish community. It is awash in porn and essentially is a fetish. There may well be a social community and non-sexual things that occur, but the interest is sexual in natu... | First off, you are free to hate whoever you want.
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CMV: Transgenderism is really none of our business (with some exceptions)
So, if you come to CMV a lot you’ve probably noticed that there are a LOT of posts about transgenderism and gender identity in general. And if you are like me then you just scroll on past those posts and look for something else and think to ... | >Can anyone explain to me why this is something that requires a huge national conversation?
Because many people disagree with the things you said while participating - at length - in that very conversation. Is your view that "We shouldn't have to talk about this because everyone should already agree with me?"
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So, if you come to CMV a lot you’ve probably noticed that there are a LOT of posts about transgenderism and gender identity in general. And if you are like me then you just scroll on past those posts and look for something else and think to yourself, “why are people even talking about this?”
Before I explain mysel... | bluepillarmy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Christianity is used as a way to justify pre-existing moral beliefs, not as a source of them.
This argument will be specific to Christianity, although I do think it likely applies to other religions. However, I don't know enough about other religions to have a meaningful conversation, so please keep your argument... | Both are correct. Some people use religion to justify their moral beliefs. Others base their moral beliefs on their religion (AKA What would Jesus do?). Others do both at the same time.
When a religious leader changes the personal belief of a follower by quoting their religious texts, the follower is basing his morals... | I would agree that your argument is mostly true in many variants of Christianity but my particular confession (Catholicism) does not seem to qualify, though being 100% Christian and holding that the Bible really is the Word of God.
While many of the modern sects have a bottom-up structure, so that the people elect the... | 5zt6p9 | CMV: Christianity is used as a way to justify pre-existing moral beliefs, not as a source of them. | This argument will be specific to Christianity, although I do think it likely applies to other religions. However, I don't know enough about other religions to have a meaningful conversation, so please keep your arguments focused on Christianity. This is also specific to Christians who claim the Bible is the word of Go... | AllOfEverythingEver | 15 | 13 | [
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CMV: The teenager who baked her grandfather's ashes into cookies did not commit a crime.
So I saw [this bonkers story](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-davis-cookies-grandfather-ashes-20181016-story.html) being linked, and one thing that stood out to me was this paragraph:
>[Police Lt.] Doroshov said polic... | She committed several crimes.
1) It is illegal to dispose of human remains in that manner.
2) It is illegal to feed other people things that are potentially dangerous without their knowledge and consent. Human ashes qualify as this. No actual physical harm has to occur, potential physical harm as well as psychologi... | This is probably a letter/spirit of the law type issue. Do you think it should be legal to bake human remains into cookies and feed it to other people without them knowing?
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As a general matter, I would not want to use the force of law to put someone in prison over that unless it was dangerous to the other person.... | 9pblci | CMV: The teenager who baked her grandfather's ashes into cookies did not commit a crime. | So I saw [this bonkers story](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-davis-cookies-grandfather-ashes-20181016-story.html) being linked, and one thing that stood out to me was this paragraph:
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CMV: The teenager who baked her grandfather's ashes into cookies did not commit a crime.
So I saw [this bonkers story](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-davis-cookies-grandfather-ashes-20181016-story.html) being linked, and one thing that stood out to me was this paragraph:
>[Police Lt.] Doroshov said polic... | She committed several crimes.
1) It is illegal to dispose of human remains in that manner.
2) It is illegal to feed other people things that are potentially dangerous without their knowledge and consent. Human ashes qualify as this. No actual physical harm has to occur, potential physical harm as well as psychologi... | This is probably a letter/spirit of the law type issue. Do you think it should be legal to bake human remains into cookies and feed it to other people without them knowing?
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As a general matter, I would not want to use the force of law to put someone in prison over that unless it was dangerous to the other person.... | 9pblci | CMV: The teenager who baked her grandfather's ashes into cookies did not commit a crime. | So I saw [this bonkers story](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-davis-cookies-grandfather-ashes-20181016-story.html) being linked, and one thing that stood out to me was this paragraph:
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CMV: The teenager who baked her grandfather's ashes into cookies did not commit a crime.
So I saw [this bonkers story](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-davis-cookies-grandfather-ashes-20181016-story.html) being linked, and one thing that stood out to me was this paragraph:
>[Police Lt.] Doroshov said polic... | This is probably a letter/spirit of the law type issue. Do you think it should be legal to bake human remains into cookies and feed it to other people without them knowing?
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As a general matter, I would not want to use the force of law to put someone in prison over that unless it was dangerous to the other person.... | I think the point is she fed them to at least 9 people who didn't know they contained her grandma's ashes. Putting laxatives or drugs in food without people's knowledge is legally poisoning because it causes an effect the person did not consent too. I think they are running into a problem with charging this because th... | 9pblci | CMV: The teenager who baked her grandfather's ashes into cookies did not commit a crime. | So I saw [this bonkers story](http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-davis-cookies-grandfather-ashes-20181016-story.html) being linked, and one thing that stood out to me was this paragraph:
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CMV: Donald Trump is not an asshole, or, at the very least, there is not compelling evidence that he is an asshole
Note: Don't abuse the downvote button, please.
This CMV is brought on by this video: http://wapo.st/2imBQCC which is contrary to the "he knew what he signed up for" narrative that was being pushed a litt... | It doesn't really matter what his intentions are. If his actions are consistently being interpreated as assholerish, then he's an asshole. It's not some media conspiracy to make him look bad.
To me he's mainly an asshole because of the lying, he'll lie about anything to make himself look better. Also he'll insult any... | Even a saint, need not be a saint all of the time.
Sometimes you're only one at the time when it counts.
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So your claim is that Donald Trump has been worthy of contempt at some unspecified point, and due to the weight of this, he is worthy of contempt all of the time?
Also, I would say that a saint that does n... | 77uxgf | CMV: Donald Trump is not an asshole, or, at the very least, there is not compelling evidence that he is an asshole | Note: Don't abuse the downvote button, please.
This CMV is brought on by this video: http://wapo.st/2imBQCC which is contrary to the "he knew what he signed up for" narrative that was being pushed a little while ago.
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the anus.
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CMV: Calling and classifying people as a "racist" is detrimental to dismantling racism
To clarify my point, I believe the classification of being racist as an inherent quality is detrimental because it oversimplifies the reality of racism.
The definition of racism that I believe is "the harmful discrimination of a g... | If it's just a "system" with no associated personal qualities, why should I the racist ever try to evaluate my biases or work against the racist system? I mean, it's not my fault, it's just this whole system man. My personal interests would be best served by avoiding going against the system. I would want to vote fo... | >Outright calling people a racist or racists inhibits the dismantling of racism because it mischaracterizes its systematic nature.
Are people incapable of being racist as part of a system? And if so, what term do you suggest that we use when discussing instances of personal (rather than institutional) bias based on ra... | 6h11hq | CMV: Calling and classifying people as a "racist" is detrimental to dismantling racism | To clarify my point, I believe the classification of being racist as an inherent quality is detrimental because it oversimplifies the reality of racism.
The definition of racism that I believe is "the harmful discrimination of a group of people considered of a certain race based on the belief that their race makes th... | CookiePoster | 9 | 8 | [
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CMV: Food in prisons should all be vegetarian, and they should remove the weights from their gyms.
Random thought after reading another reddit article. It was about a cannibal who used to arrange his food to look like human limbs (I know, pretty shocking). Obviously that's an extreme case... most people are in prison ... | > But it did make me think in general... given how expensive meat is compared to veg,
Is it? Where is your source?
About the weights, your argument is really silly. Inmates killed others with all kinds of methods. The weights are not special at all.
> Imagine everyone trying to return to crime if they come out we... | Prison food is the cheapest and lowest quality food that can be used. There is one food known as "the loaf" that is is cheap and disgusting that it has been used as punishment and more recently been banned in some states and feeding it to inmates may actually be considered a violation of cruel and unusual punishment la... | gs479y | CMV: Food in prisons should all be vegetarian, and they should remove the weights from their gyms. | Random thought after reading another reddit article. It was about a cannibal who used to arrange his food to look like human limbs (I know, pretty shocking). Obviously that's an extreme case... most people are in prison for much less offences.
But it did make me think in general... given how expensive meat is compared... | Fando1234 | 5 | 4 | [
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CMV: Opium should be legalized like alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, etc.
So far as I can tell, the opioid epidemic basically boils down to
* Lots of people are prescribed opiods.
* Doctors cut off prescriptions, or do not increase doseages to compensate for tolerance.
* Folks reliant on opioids turn to heroin to ge... | >Evidence that opium is qualitatively worse than alcohol, tobacco, marijuana in terms of its long-term health effects.
[There were 2-2.5 million opioid and heroin users in 2015, and 33,000 deaths from overdose.](https://www.asam.org/docs/default-source/advocacy/opioid-addiction-disease-facts-figures.pdf) That's 1.3% ... | Are you hand-waving over the particulars of legalization, or would you want to have discussion on that?
I ask because of your last three points, and there's a difference between "I'm ok with legalization of opium under conditions that meet X, Y, Z" which may be quite distinct from the current system, and "I just want ... | 772x4r | CMV: Opium should be legalized like alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, etc. | So far as I can tell, the opioid epidemic basically boils down to
* Lots of people are prescribed opiods.
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* Folks reliant on opioids turn to heroin to get their fix.
To remedy the problem, we should recognize that opium is a u... | Quidfacis_ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Physician-assisted suicide and euthanasia should not be legal
I recently watched a movie called *Right to Die* and it got me thinking about the topic of euthanasia. For many reasons, I believe that euthanasia should not be legal, some of which are religious reasons and others just morals that I feel I have for my... | I'm going to use an extreme case, but unfortunately it happens and not long ago it was on the news in my country.
If a man is quadriplegic, has no joy in living and can't bear to live any longer because he can't do anything and is completely dependent on others, in your opinion what would be the best way to deal with ... | If you believe the individual has the right to die, then you have to contend with the question of how to prevent them from exercising that right in dangerous ways, or ways that are themselves pretty evil.
So...shouldn't the person who has that right have the right to consult their doctor and have the relationship with... | lslgse | CMV: Physician-assisted suicide and euthanasia should not be legal | I recently watched a movie called *Right to Die* and it got me thinking about the topic of euthanasia. For many reasons, I believe that euthanasia should not be legal, some of which are religious reasons and others just morals that I feel I have for myself. I believe that even if a patient is requesting it, there are s... | District-Love21 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Those crappy metal Tolix chairs that every other restaurant has these days are terrible, and places that only have them for seating do not care about their customers.
When I go into a new restaurant/bar/cafe these days, the majority of the time I go in fully expecting to be disappointed because they will likely h... | What if I told you that businesses intentionally have uncomfortable furniture, including chairs like these, in order to keep customers flowing and tables turning?
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I see that they have benefits from the business' perspective. Low cost. Low maintenance. Stackable. Encourages table turns. Etc... I see no bene... | [deleted]
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So you didn't try to change my view that the seats are terrible and places that only have them for seating do not care about their customers? So you agree with me?
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No business cares about their customers, only their customers’ money. “Caring for customers” is just a feel-good front so they come b... | sbxql7 | CMV: Those crappy metal Tolix chairs that every other restaurant has these days are terrible, and places that only have them for seating do not care about their customers. | When I go into a new restaurant/bar/cafe these days, the majority of the time I go in fully expecting to be disappointed because they will likely have these cheap medieval torture devices masquerading as chairs. I don't get how any adult with a rear end bigger than an 10-year-old girl's could possibly find them comfor... | rich8n | 5 | 3 | [
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cmv: James Buchanan was the worst president of the United States
The Civil War was the most costly war ever fought by American citizens and the destruction caused by the war effected the country for decades after Lee’s surrender. The Confederacy began seizing federal forts and property once Lincoln was elected presi... | Trump fired most of the pandemic researchers employed by the government 6 months before we had a pandemic.
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While that obviously is colossally short sighted, I don’t think it shows the same level of incompetence. That would only work in comparison to Buchanan if Trump fired the pandemic team staff once COVID sprea... | So according to everyone the doughboys (including an Buchanan) sucked because they did nothing, right? Well shouldn’t someone who made the country actively worse get more flack? It would’ve taken a miracle to stop the civil war from happening that late in the game. Can you blame Buchanan for not fixing a problem as old... | niwb1c | cmv: James Buchanan was the worst president of the United States |
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CMV: There is no Reason to Care about my "Roots" or "Heritage" most who say they are, are lying.
Whenever people ask me about my heritage and family culture, my answer is usually something along the lines of "I'm not really sure." They usually respond with, "don't you care about your roots?" and I can't help but answe... | [removed]
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I think people do legitimately care about their roots/heritage, for pretty much that reason. If you don't have anything to be proud of in your own life, you are more likely to look for things to be proud of in people you can identify with. | By failing to care about your "roots" or "heritage" you are unable to assess your risks of heritable genetic diseases.
Plus if you ever need an organ transplant, you could be in trouble.
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Can't current medical technology assess that simply with my biology?
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Can it address it as easily as it could if you d... | 77v4zc | CMV: There is no Reason to Care about my "Roots" or "Heritage" most who say they are, are lying. | Whenever people ask me about my heritage and family culture, my answer is usually something along the lines of "I'm not really sure." They usually respond with, "don't you care about your roots?" and I can't help but answer no.
Plenty of folks have a rather baffled expression, and I have no idea why. I mean, to me my... | OGHuggles | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People who are of a lower intelligence and generally, tend to be less educated on birth control have more children and we are going in the opposite direction of evolutionary progress and is a catalyst for the poverty cycle. To combat this, a birth limit should be introduced.
I think the largest problem with this ... | If this is true, shouldn't the Flynn effect not exist?
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!delta. I admit, this is a direct counterexample. I believe the problem will take a greater amount time than the past 80 or so years for it's effects to show however.
Edit: spelling
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> I admit, this is a direct counterexample.
More like a relative coun... | Even if it we accept as true that less intelligent people having more children was a problem, it seems like there are other ways of addressing the problem before resorting to child number limits. Like the government providing free IUDs, for example.
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The IUD's, unless administered forcefully would still require pe... | 8nkbvf | CMV: People who are of a lower intelligence and generally, tend to be less educated on birth control have more children and we are going in the opposite direction of evolutionary progress and is a catalyst for the poverty cycle. To combat this, a birth limit should be introduced. | I think the largest problem with this view is ethics. However, I hold this view because I think it is in our and our children's best interests to address these upcoming problems, however uncomfortable it may be. The path humans are currently on is not sustainable. For example, in 2015 households with an annual income o... | ch0bbyhoboman | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Blacks are 3X more likely to be killed by police than whites, and it’s NOT due to the rate of violent crime in black communities
It is often touted that the reason black people are so much more likely to be killed by police is because of the violent crime rate in black communities. Although black people make up 1... | Youre highlighting the wrong part of that stat. The relevant part is that those killings *begin* with cops responding to a nonviolent crime. That in no way means the incident remained nonviolent. If during a routine traffic stop the perp suddenly started shooting at the cop for no reason and the cop shot back and kille... | Your source says that, even though the majority of the killings were responses to non-violent offenses, only **80** of the **1127** killings involved the cop killing an unarmed person.
The source then goes on to tell us that **27** of these **80** unarmed deaths were of black people, just a tiny bit over exactly 1/3r... | lsj1xu | CMV: Blacks are 3X more likely to be killed by police than whites, and it’s NOT due to the rate of violent crime in black communities | It is often touted that the reason black people are so much more likely to be killed by police is because of the violent crime rate in black communities. Although black people make up 13% of the US population, they commit about 50% of America’s homicides (and most of that is black-on-black). So we shouldn’t be surprise... | PreeDem | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It isn't worth having to pay so much to attend a top college
I'm in the college application process so I've thought about this a lot. Although I grew up dreaming of going to an Ivy, I didn't even waste my time/money applying to one. The reason being they give ZERO merit scholarships. Although I had a decent chanc... | You are making two errors here:
1. Too selective colleges do not charge everyone sticker price (most schools don’t). For example, Harvard is essentially free for students whose families make less than $65k, and greatly reduced for those making up to $150k. In short, the cost of attending such a school is often LESS t... | Not worth it for you or not worth it for everybody? It’s all a matter of perspective. A month long trip abroad is an amazing life experience, but might not be “worth it” when you need to spend the money on essentials.
On the flip side, an Ivy League education may not be a large sum of money to many families, or there... | a6n62c | CMV: It isn't worth having to pay so much to attend a top college | I'm in the college application process so I've thought about this a lot. Although I grew up dreaming of going to an Ivy, I didn't even waste my time/money applying to one. The reason being they give ZERO merit scholarships. Although I had a decent chance of acceptance, even if I got a letter from every top 20 school, I... | Zakmza123 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It isn't worth having to pay so much to attend a top college
I'm in the college application process so I've thought about this a lot. Although I grew up dreaming of going to an Ivy, I didn't even waste my time/money applying to one. The reason being they give ZERO merit scholarships. Although I had a decent chanc... | You are making two errors here:
1. Too selective colleges do not charge everyone sticker price (most schools don’t). For example, Harvard is essentially free for students whose families make less than $65k, and greatly reduced for those making up to $150k. In short, the cost of attending such a school is often LESS t... | Not worth it for you or not worth it for everybody? It’s all a matter of perspective. A month long trip abroad is an amazing life experience, but might not be “worth it” when you need to spend the money on essentials.
On the flip side, an Ivy League education may not be a large sum of money to many families, or there... | a6n62c | CMV: It isn't worth having to pay so much to attend a top college | I'm in the college application process so I've thought about this a lot. Although I grew up dreaming of going to an Ivy, I didn't even waste my time/money applying to one. The reason being they give ZERO merit scholarships. Although I had a decent chance of acceptance, even if I got a letter from every top 20 school, I... | Zakmza123 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It isn't worth having to pay so much to attend a top college
I'm in the college application process so I've thought about this a lot. Although I grew up dreaming of going to an Ivy, I didn't even waste my time/money applying to one. The reason being they give ZERO merit scholarships. Although I had a decent chanc... | Not worth it for you or not worth it for everybody? It’s all a matter of perspective. A month long trip abroad is an amazing life experience, but might not be “worth it” when you need to spend the money on essentials.
On the flip side, an Ivy League education may not be a large sum of money to many families, or there... | You are making two errors here:
1. Too selective colleges do not charge everyone sticker price (most schools don’t). For example, Harvard is essentially free for students whose families make less than $65k, and greatly reduced for those making up to $150k. In short, the cost of attending such a school is often LESS t... | a6n62c | CMV: It isn't worth having to pay so much to attend a top college | I'm in the college application process so I've thought about this a lot. Although I grew up dreaming of going to an Ivy, I didn't even waste my time/money applying to one. The reason being they give ZERO merit scholarships. Although I had a decent chance of acceptance, even if I got a letter from every top 20 school, I... | Zakmza123 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It isn't worth having to pay so much to attend a top college
I'm in the college application process so I've thought about this a lot. Although I grew up dreaming of going to an Ivy, I didn't even waste my time/money applying to one. The reason being they give ZERO merit scholarships. Although I had a decent chanc... | You are making two errors here:
1. Too selective colleges do not charge everyone sticker price (most schools don’t). For example, Harvard is essentially free for students whose families make less than $65k, and greatly reduced for those making up to $150k. In short, the cost of attending such a school is often LESS t... | Not worth it for you or not worth it for everybody? It’s all a matter of perspective. A month long trip abroad is an amazing life experience, but might not be “worth it” when you need to spend the money on essentials.
On the flip side, an Ivy League education may not be a large sum of money to many families, or there... | a6n62c | CMV: It isn't worth having to pay so much to attend a top college | I'm in the college application process so I've thought about this a lot. Although I grew up dreaming of going to an Ivy, I didn't even waste my time/money applying to one. The reason being they give ZERO merit scholarships. Although I had a decent chance of acceptance, even if I got a letter from every top 20 school, I... | Zakmza123 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the idea that being white gives you an advantage is way to generalized and groups like the Irish and Italians who are white have faced similar oppression and discrimination as people of color.
As a person with Italian heritage, I find it difficult to understand how the history of the United States has led to “whi... | I think you’re misunderstanding what white privilege means. It doesn’t mean you necessarily have an advantage being white. Obviously a white kid growing up in a trailer park is less advantaged than say Obama’s kids. The point is that a white person never has to worry that they didn’t get a job BECAUSE they were white, ... | [deleted]
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Italians can have a deep olive skin.
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[deleted] | sciujk | CMV: the idea that being white gives you an advantage is way to generalized and groups like the Irish and Italians who are white have faced similar oppression and discrimination as people of color. | As a person with Italian heritage, I find it difficult to understand how the history of the United States has led to “white privilege” when that should only apply to certain groups of European descendants. For example, Italians have faced violence and discrimination ever since they migrated to the US up until recently.... | chalupebatmen | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the idea that being white gives you an advantage is way to generalized and groups like the Irish and Italians who are white have faced similar oppression and discrimination as people of color.
As a person with Italian heritage, I find it difficult to understand how the history of the United States has led to “whi... | I think you’re misunderstanding what white privilege means. It doesn’t mean you necessarily have an advantage being white. Obviously a white kid growing up in a trailer park is less advantaged than say Obama’s kids. The point is that a white person never has to worry that they didn’t get a job BECAUSE they were white, ... | You cite a something from the 1800s but state things only changed "recently". What is "recently" in your mind? Past 10 years, 50 years, or 100 years?
Italians and Irish may have had some issues in the past. But, I would argue since the early 1900s, they've been associated and treated as the same with all other cauc... | sciujk | CMV: the idea that being white gives you an advantage is way to generalized and groups like the Irish and Italians who are white have faced similar oppression and discrimination as people of color. | As a person with Italian heritage, I find it difficult to understand how the history of the United States has led to “white privilege” when that should only apply to certain groups of European descendants. For example, Italians have faced violence and discrimination ever since they migrated to the US up until recently.... | chalupebatmen | 3 | 3 | [
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