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CMV: Islam is a violent religion which regularly violates human rights
\*\*Summary of my position at bottom\*\*
I believe that Islam is a violent religion. Call me racist. I'm not. Call me islamophobic. I am in fact against Islamic authority on the basis that it is a violent religion which commits human rights violat... | To try to change your view, I'm going to ignore religion. You might think "How can we talk about Islam without talking about religion?" but really this is a question of politics. No religion embraces human rights by our modern standards. Pretty much every religion predates modernity and modern ethics.
But I think it'... | I know several devout muslims who are intelligent, open-minded, tolerant people. They feel no contradiction between their muslim identity and their tolerance.
Do they just... for some reason not count, to you? How do you explain them?
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My argument is that Islam is violent, and Islamic authority regularly viol... | 93w195 | CMV: Islam is a violent religion which regularly violates human rights | \*\*Summary of my position at bottom\*\*
I believe that Islam is a violent religion. Call me racist. I'm not. Call me islamophobic. I am in fact against Islamic authority on the basis that it is a violent religion which commits human rights violations regularly. That said, I do not hate muslims. I do not hate anyone. ... | antoniofelicemunro | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Communism would have been seen much, MUCH more favorably if there wasn’t a serious discrimination and antagonization of religion, religious people and clergy
I speak this from personal (Yugoslav) experience: Tito’s Partisans killed many, *many* priests (Orthodox, Catholic or Muslim imams) throughout Yugoslavia in... | Except it goes against the very idea of Communism. Marx called for abolition of three institutions, as being necessary to achieve Communism:
Family - which he linked to passing of private property from one generation to the next
Religion - which he saw as an institution responsible for placating the working class i... | It depends where you were. American communists back in the early 20th century tended to be religious because people tended to be religious.
Given this, you would expect the US to have viewed communism much more favorably than places with the serious discrimination issues like China and Cambodia.
However, communism is... | 1jprjy1 | CMV: Communism would have been seen much, MUCH more favorably if there wasn’t a serious discrimination and antagonization of religion, religious people and clergy | I speak this from personal (Yugoslav) experience: Tito’s Partisans killed many, *many* priests (Orthodox, Catholic or Muslim imams) throughout Yugoslavia in WWII, robbed many churches, stole and destroyed icons and holy relics and, after the war, turned many churches and mosques into stables or even night clubs. Monten... | A_Child_of_Adam | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: PC culture really isn’t so bad, and I’m curious as to why so many people have such an aversion to being politically correct.
Political correctness - as I understand it - is the practice of filtering public speech to remove words and phrases that are generally considered offensive or harmful.
First of all, I hig... | I think PC culture at times attacks the ideology at times and pushes a idea that people should always look for things to be offended of or to become hyper sensitive to topics and retreat to a language that censors the real world or agrees with theirs.
It also isolates people from sharing with different cultures.
Say... | So it goes too far but it’s still better than free speech which you totally agree with except when you don’t.
I’m a bit vague on what exactly your view is.
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I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear, I’ll try to rephrase:
It doesn’t go too far if it’s simply an avoidance of words that are well known to be offensive, controver... | 93vyaz | CMV: PC culture really isn’t so bad, and I’m curious as to why so many people have such an aversion to being politically correct. | Political correctness - as I understand it - is the practice of filtering public speech to remove words and phrases that are generally considered offensive or harmful.
First of all, I highly value free discussion and open dialogue. I think it’s vitally important that people should be able to voice their opinions and ... | jaelenchrysos | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Caller ID spoofing should be made entirely illegal.
Caller ID spoofing is the practice of transmitting digital information with a phone call representing a number as the dialing number other than that which is actually the dialing number.
I believe this practice should be made entirely illegal, and that either t... | [It already is illegal](https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/spoofing-and-caller-id) per the FCC. From their site:
>Under the Truth in Caller ID Act, FCC rules prohibit any person or entity from transmitting misleading or inaccurate caller ID information with the intent to defraud, cause harm, or wrongly obtain anyth... | It's my understanding that this is more of a technical issue. Because of the wide variety of service providers, you pretty much are relying on them to provide the proper information. I think it a very large task to utterly remove this and require somehow verifiable information.
Wouldn't it just be easier to assume t... | 78p5gr | CMV: Caller ID spoofing should be made entirely illegal. | Caller ID spoofing is the practice of transmitting digital information with a phone call representing a number as the dialing number other than that which is actually the dialing number.
I believe this practice should be made entirely illegal, and that either the accurate calling number, or else no number, must be tra... | huadpe | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Mechanical keyboards make bad gaming keyboards.
My son has gotten two Corsair keyboards with different kinds of key actions on them (one was his first purchase and one was to get one with a smaller footprint). He mostly plays games, so I helped him research them and look up recommendations from his favorite YouTu... | Some mechanical keyboards have analogue keys instead of normal keys. This allows your computer to detect the partial pressing of a key. Meaning that if you partially press a key you, for example, walk forward slowly and if you fully press it you walk forward at full speed. This is a very useful feature when trying t... | Mechanical keyboards are not necessarily more work to press. The light switches are very easy to press, easier than most scissor (?) switches on flat keyboards I've used. A keyboard with red switches require basically the same effort as my surface type cover keyboard, which is pretty light already.
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> making ... | g9m9nk | CMV: Mechanical keyboards make bad gaming keyboards. | My son has gotten two Corsair keyboards with different kinds of key actions on them (one was his first purchase and one was to get one with a smaller footprint). He mostly plays games, so I helped him research them and look up recommendations from his favorite YouTubers.
The newest one has keys with lots of travel and... | ColossusOnTwoWheels | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Universal healthcare is not the solution to America's healthcare problem
I've seen many people advocating for the implementation of universal healthcare, citing massive hospital bills as their reason. However, from what I've seen, these huge bills are due to health insurance companies' unwillingness to pay what's... | With national healthcare, you are knocking out insurance companies, tons of administrative overhead, you’re gaining better buying power, and you’re cutting down on a ton of training fees since everyone isn’t using a different system. You’d also likely be catching disease earlier because people are more willing to go to... | So instead of $40K being paid out by your insurance and you paying maybe a $6K out of pocket deductible, The patient is required to pay $19K in cash upfront to have a necessary surgery?
How is this better exactly?
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You're not taking into account the tens of thousands of dollars that the patient would have to pay... | ipnr52 | CMV: Universal healthcare is not the solution to America's healthcare problem | I've seen many people advocating for the implementation of universal healthcare, citing massive hospital bills as their reason. However, from what I've seen, these huge bills are due to health insurance companies' unwillingness to pay what's charged by the hospital, so the hospital has to overcharge to make back their ... | The_1_Bob | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: While far from perfect, most Western nations treat their Muslim minorities better then Muslim nations treat their Christian minorities.
It’s something no scholar, the left leaning ones at least, wants to reckon with and something I didn’t appreciate until recently. Most Muslim countries have an ugly spirit of Isl... | Why don’t you think a left leaning scholar would recognize this? What left scholar has been avoiding this?
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The sheer amount of well cited papers on google when googling “islamophobia west” or “islamophobia Israel” vs “anti-Christian Muslim nations” and you’ll see what I mean.
There’s voluminous papers devoted ... | Western nations are not "Christian nations".
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yeah sure, just go ahead and erase 100s of years of european culture
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Yeah, there's nothing to European culture over the past several hundred years other than 'Christianity'.
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christianity is a pretty huge institution in european history. Its like saying iran... | 1l8xdc3 | CMV: While far from perfect, most Western nations treat their Muslim minorities better then Muslim nations treat their Christian minorities. | It’s something no scholar, the left leaning ones at least, wants to reckon with and something I didn’t appreciate until recently. Most Muslim countries have an ugly spirit of Islamic populism, highly masculine, that wants a revitalization of Islamic practice in their country through strict adherence of the old ways and... | soozerain | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Joe Biden is not a decent man.
Joe Biden is not a decent man. Let’s set the record straight.
• blamed his wife’s fatal accident on the truck driver, then slandered him for decades about being an alcoholic; in reality, the accident was her fault and he was not drunk at the time - he was a teetotaler
• ha... | Theres no point in arguing joe is or is not a good man, the entire point is that compared to trump he is a saint, if you made a list about trump listing every single unethical thing you could find id be 30% done reading it, not typing this
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It appears you are not staying on topic. My post is about Joe personally,... | You already posted this same post before
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Mods removed it and told me to repost it since there was allegedly another post of the same “topic” during the same 24 hr period. So I complied.
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There was another post live at the time, yes.
Please keep in mind that, regardless of the previous removal reason, *y... | 1ec3ndw | CMV: Joe Biden is not a decent man. |
Joe Biden is not a decent man. Let’s set the record straight.
• blamed his wife’s fatal accident on the truck driver, then slandered him for decades about being an alcoholic; in reality, the accident was her fault and he was not drunk at the time - he was a teetotaler
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CMV: The Social "Progress" is a meaningless buzzword that appeals to a watered down version of dialectical materialism in order to claim that the speaker’s political positions are both right and metaphysically necessary
“Progress” is a meaningless buzzword that appeals to a watered down version of dialectical material... | I don't see why "progress" implies that the speaker's values are metaphysically necessary; could you expound on that?
I see the word usually used in a moral sense: We're moving toward a more moral society in some value-driven sense, or we're moving away from it (regression). It does presuppose the speaker's values ar... | You could progress along any number of vectors, the only absolute is change from the previous position. That's why progressives are opposed to conservatives.
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CMV: Relationships are not worth it for men
How are relationships worth it for men? Its a whole bunch of BS and time money effort rejection self improvement. And your prize if you succeed and get a girl to agree to a relationship with you? You can't sleep with anyone else! Like what??
Why would any man with options t... | Have you ever considered that maybe people’s partners *do* want to sleep with them? That many people in fulfilling relationships have a similar libido to their partners, and are able to have sex as much as they want to.
You seem to value sex very highly in a relationship, and you acknowledge that a loving relationship... | My wife and I have been together for about 15 years. Together, we have built a life for ourselves and made far more progress on our life goals than either of us could have made on our own. We are partners in all things.
That is far more valuable to me than sex with random people.
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My wife died four years ago, f... | 1ebcs5u | CMV: Relationships are not worth it for men | How are relationships worth it for men? Its a whole bunch of BS and time money effort rejection self improvement. And your prize if you succeed and get a girl to agree to a relationship with you? You can't sleep with anyone else! Like what??
Why would any man with options trade having sex with multiple women to give o... | blopiter | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Entrenchment of power is bad and must be avoided as much as possible
Okay, you know that the saying that goes that power tends to entrench itself in government systems and people craving it would like to seek such positions to ensure that they will be there for a long time. It must be avoided because it will lead... | The parties aren't just going to dissolve just because they can't do anything for four years. Instead, all the issues of four years will be compiled, the most urgent first, and laws are drafted. They're just drafted without any public debate or input.
Then, being the only large organizations capable of doing so, more ... | So we’d do an election every 5 days? How would that work?
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No government for 4 years, then hold an election for a government with a single term of 5 days.
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Why have a government at all if we can get by just fine without it for the vast majority of the time? | 14r103q | CMV: Entrenchment of power is bad and must be avoided as much as possible | Okay, you know that the saying that goes that power tends to entrench itself in government systems and people craving it would like to seek such positions to ensure that they will be there for a long time. It must be avoided because it will lead to backsliding.
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To avoid this, all terms in governmental office... | Cheemingwan1234 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Debates are useless and don't try to actually find a solution or a middle ground.
I watched this debate between Benny Morris and Mehdi Hasan recently about the Israel and Palestine conflict, expecting them to eventually reach a middle ground together, but that never came. Instead, they fought for their side until... | Nobody enters a debate with the notion that their view may be wrong, and the point of debates arent to reach a middle ground. If someone does want to challenge their own views, they would ask a question, or at least state that their view is open to change.
The purpose of a debate is:
a. (In some forms) to show inte... | Often, debates are not to convince the other debater, they are to convince the audience.
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Yeah, but even then, at least for the debates I mentioned in the post, not a single person in the comments, the audience or the friends I spoke to about it afterwards found any clarity for the other side. It just seemed to re... | 1l8qjnz | CMV: Debates are useless and don't try to actually find a solution or a middle ground. | I watched this debate between Benny Morris and Mehdi Hasan recently about the Israel and Palestine conflict, expecting them to eventually reach a middle ground together, but that never came. Instead, they fought for their side until the end and never even a single time conceded to the other person or came to the conclu... | CypherTripOnSunset | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Labels like “boomer” or “karen” or any other labels (eg. “woke”) used to generalize a group of people are always problematic & counterproductive
We are a species that relies on pattern recognition to process the information around us. As a natural consequence, to try and understand, interpret, & navigate our vari... | Is it actually the pattern-seeking behavior that you object to, or is it the misapplication of the pattern where it doesn't fit?
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How do labels lead to injustice? What injustice is occurring?
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You ascribe a label to someone, and that label carries the baggage of everything else that is associated with it, which I argue the individ... | 1eaf3ca | CMV: Labels like “boomer” or “karen” or any other labels (eg. “woke”) used to generalize a group of people are always problematic & counterproductive | We are a species that relies on pattern recognition to process the information around us. As a natural consequence, to try and understand, interpret, & navigate our various social milieus we tend to group (seemingly) similar people together & apply labels to them to simplify and make our understanding of the world more... | Landa_Chuy | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: It should be illegal to rent out living spaces to others.
It should be illegal to buy a property and rent it out to others, or taxed so heavily that it's not profitable at all. If you own residential property, you MUST live in it yourself. I believe this is the sole reason that houses get continually more expens... | Most people can’t afford to buy a place, especially with a 20% down payment. So you want all the people who rent (theoretically, poor people) to live in a slum city together? That’s what it sounds like.
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> Most people can’t afford to buy a place
The point of my argument is that this would reduce the price of hou... | Limiting the properties which are available to rent would drive the price of rentals up based upon the simple supply/demand principle.
This could also increase homelessness and/or allow renters to save less to potentially own in the future.
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CMV: Dave Rubin is intellectually dishonest.
Dave Rubin gives puff interviews to people he apparently disagrees with, but never challenges them. But preaches that other people have to change their minds. (I am in favor of changing one's mind, look at this subreddit this is in).
The best evidence he gives as being ... | Dave Rubin is an interviewer who fosters an space that allows people to present all sides of their argument. There is nothing intellectually dishonest about that.
He also points out the various parts of the left that he sees as toxic, as well as the parts of the right that he sees as toxic. That is not intellectually... | Dave Rubin is a leftist who presents all sides of the argument. If you hate that he allows right wingers to speak, that's just too bad. Dave Rubin allows people he disagrees with on his channel. If that's intellectual dishonesty, then that's intellectual dishonesty.
If your argument is that everyone should only allo... | 6jbsmb | CMV: Dave Rubin is intellectually dishonest. | Dave Rubin gives puff interviews to people he apparently disagrees with, but never challenges them. But preaches that other people have to change their minds. (I am in favor of changing one's mind, look at this subreddit this is in).
The best evidence he gives as being a (classical) liberal is he says "I'm a classi... | KingMelray | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: The 2nd Amendment enables the police state, it does not protect our other rights.
One argument for the Second Amendment is that it is used to protect against government overreach. Correlation implies otherwise: the US has more guns than our peer countries but we also have more people imprisoned and killed by the ... | The 2nd amendment is not for individual instances of a rouge cop infringing on someone's rights. In 99% of cases it's not in your best interest to resist cops, even if they are unjustified. You have a higher chance of getting justice by complying and sueing later, than if you resist then the court uses the video eviden... | If you are off work today and celebrating the 4th of July, you can thank all those citizens who possessed guns.
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July 1st isn’t July 4th. Canada is not the United States. You really look stupid. | 14qk1vp | CMV: The 2nd Amendment enables the police state, it does not protect our other rights. | One argument for the Second Amendment is that it is used to protect against government overreach. Correlation implies otherwise: the US has more guns than our peer countries but we also have more people imprisoned and killed by the government. Police in the US have more impunity to search, detain, and use force than pe... | HappyChandler | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Trying to "solve" global warming is unrealistic, and plans should only be made to survive it
First off, yes, I think that global warming is real. But from what I have seen of how factories work and how resources are used, I think it is unfair to blame corporations for "ruining Earth". Sure, yes, they are causing ... | > I should also add that I think that trying to impose too much regulations on corporations will only serve to hurt ourselves, and make the world as a whole "poorer".
Many regulations result in Humanity or Civilizations being less capable of production- as they have to compromise. But, it's sometimes at the sacrifice ... | You're right that corporations are not evil. They are by nature a-moral entities that seek out profit. Corporations would happily try to save the world if it was the most profitable avenue. This is why we need to make it the most profitable avenue through regulation. If we created a carbon tax that proportionally charg... | 6je7u2 | CMV: Trying to "solve" global warming is unrealistic, and plans should only be made to survive it | First off, yes, I think that global warming is real. But from what I have seen of how factories work and how resources are used, I think it is unfair to blame corporations for "ruining Earth". Sure, yes, they are causing environmental problems, and yes, there are researches into how to produce with less harm to the env... | Mattykitty | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Minimum Wage makes jobs less accessible and is harmful
I accept this view may be flawed because so many people believe raising minimum wage makes sense, and I am essentially the only person I know who is firmly against it. So perhaps I am missing some arguments/information.
My view is that minimum wages, especia... | To one of your points....
Say you have a job *x* that pays $8/hr and requires certain basic skills that most people can easily acquire or already have and then raise the pay to $16/hr for the same exact job, you haven’t changed the skills. The same unskilled workers can apply for and do the job because the only thing ... | [deleted]
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I agree with you that "skills" is overly simplistic wording for what is essentially supply and demand. To clarify, if you have skills in something that there is no demand for, you are out of luck. So I guess I should have said "skills in demand" instead of just "skills". Does it make more sense with tha... | ipcyhf | CMV: Minimum Wage makes jobs less accessible and is harmful | I accept this view may be flawed because so many people believe raising minimum wage makes sense, and I am essentially the only person I know who is firmly against it. So perhaps I am missing some arguments/information.
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CMV: I am concerned with the shift or trend towards globalization and a one-world culture and nation
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I am speaking out as an American citizen but I noticed that due to the influence of the Internet, more people are being swayed by social change movements and intergovernmental organizations like the World Health Organi... | Why, exactly, do you think that having a single unified government would inevitably lead to an international (but isn't there only one nation?) ID in the form of microchips?
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CMV: A computer cannot infringe privacy
Basically the title. Privacy is defined as "the state or condition of being free from being observed or disturbed *by other people*". I think a lot of the recent hubbub over the NSA and general surveillance, along with corporations logging and utilizing data for various means, i... | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-surveillance-watchdog-idUSBRE98Q14G20130927
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"Privacy vs security" is another topic and I think no, undermining human rights in the name of security covers incompetence and power abuse.
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CMV: The success of a person in a libertarian society would be determinated by birth rather than drive or talent.
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how do you propose we decide who belongs ... | 61ach0 | CMV: The success of a person in a libertarian society would be determinated by birth rather than drive or talent. | Disclaimer: I haven't actually read any libertarian books/position papers/whatever. All my informations about their philosophy comes from discussion with other reddit-users. If i'm wrong about something, please correct me.
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CMV: If you engage in the sexual behavior of a sexuality - you are that sexuality.
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I’ve seen it come up a couple of times in comments and shows (thinking Tiger King) where someone says “oh, they aren’t gay - they just did all that gay stuff for x reason.” Or something along those lines.
In my opinion, this... | I disagree. Is someone who enjoys sexual activity and craves it suddenly asexual if they choose to be celibate? Is a bi person no longer bi because they've gotten married and would never cheat?
The sexuality is separate from the actions one chooses to take.
Now of course if someone repeatedly chooses to take actions ... | >If you engage in a threesome with multiple genders, you’re bi/pansexual.
I'm glad you mentioned this, I really wonder how many people who claim to be pansexual are just saying it for the "woke" points and have never done anything with a trans person. This would be a very hard thing to measure because it's kind of unk... | kzv1cf | CMV: If you engage in the sexual behavior of a sexuality - you are that sexuality. | Hey guys,
I’ve seen it come up a couple of times in comments and shows (thinking Tiger King) where someone says “oh, they aren’t gay - they just did all that gay stuff for x reason.” Or something along those lines.
In my opinion, this is making sexuality into a bigger identity than it is. While there are certain cult... | Inferno_Zyrack | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Taxation is not theft.
Let's talk about property for a moment. Property is no tangiable quality of the physical world, but a human concept. If I gift an object to a friend, no scientist in this world would be able to see any difference before and after. The only thing that changed is our view on the object.
So, ... | For the sake of this discussion, let's define "theft" as the "unjust taking of another's property". (Technically, theft is defined as the "illegal" taking of another's property, but in this case your point is trivially true. Laws are defined by the state, and if the state defines theft in such a way as to exclude the... | > If I gift an object to a friend, no scientist in this world would be able to see any difference before and after. The only thing that changed is our view on the object.
I don't understand this point. A scientist first sees the object in my hands then me saying things and then passing it from my hands to my friends ... | 6j8whj | CMV: Taxation is not theft. | Let's talk about property for a moment. Property is no tangiable quality of the physical world, but a human concept. If I gift an object to a friend, no scientist in this world would be able to see any difference before and after. The only thing that changed is our view on the object.
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CMV: Holocaust denial should be a perfectly acceptable viewpoint
I should preface this by saying I am not a holocaust denier, nor do I think it is even a remotely logical viewpoint.
In saying that, I don’t think it should be so outrageous that people have that opinion. I see a lot of censorship of holocaust denial a... | Holocaust denial is often strongly motivated by antisemitism.
People are trying to rewrite history to deny the crimes of people of similar ideology to themselves.
Thinking elitist scientists are lying to you is very different than thinking that historical accounts of the holocaust are just part of a large conspirac... | I don't think most people care what thoughts people have. They care about how those thoughts manifest into actions and behaviors.
Thinking x race of people are bad isn't doing any harm. Treating x race worse because the person thinks they're bad is doing harm.
Therefore people who censor or are in favor of censoring ... | ipaytn | CMV: Holocaust denial should be a perfectly acceptable viewpoint | I should preface this by saying I am not a holocaust denier, nor do I think it is even a remotely logical viewpoint.
In saying that, I don’t think it should be so outrageous that people have that opinion. I see a lot of censorship of holocaust denial and particularly on reddit, why though?
Who exactly are they doing... | BhCtqclsm | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The two senators from each state must be elected at the same time
I'm not saying that staggered Senate elections should be abolished. Continue renewing one-third of the Senate every two years, but do so with both senators from one-third of the states. This would allow for equal representation of both parties in t... | >I'm not saying that staggered Senate elections should be abolished. Continue renewing one-third of the Senate every two years, but do so with both senators from one-third of the states. This would allow for equal representation of both parties in this elected body, regardless of the party majority in the House of Repr... | I'm not sure how I understand the problem you are trying to address, nor how this addresses it
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CMV: Unregulated psychedelic use is dangerous for the neurodivergent community
For context, I have a slight background in the mental health industry (1 year working as a nurse tech in a psychiatric hospital/rehab). I was a teenager in the mid 2010's, and a lot of my friends from that time period identify as autistic t... | Well, using any substance to cope with a disorder is unhealthy.
But I think if someone is using psychedelics intentionally and responsibly, it’s not a huge issue, right? And ND people don’t inherently lack the ability to use substances responsibly, though we might be more prone to addicted behavior.
Personally I’ve ... | They are regulated, by the law.
Are you saying that people should regulate their own use of psychedelics? Or that if they were ever made legal, that it would be dangerous for neurodivergent people?
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CMV: The United States should Decriminalize all drugs as well as prostitution.
Admittedly, these are two seperate issues at face value, but really I think their both connected in a big government way. And they have similar positive arguments from me.
To begin, bodily autonomy is an important human right. It's gallin... | Decriminalize or legalize? If you want tax dollars you'll need full legalization not just decriminalization.
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I think decriminalizing panders to the emotions that just disapprove of prostitution and drugs out of som... | Specifically for prostitution though, decriminalization would mean support for an industry that is currently ripe with abuse. It's the same sort of reasoning that the government doesn't allow individuals to pay other people for organs - it just enables for the exploitation of desperate people, being put into immoral s... | 60y909 | CMV: The United States should Decriminalize all drugs as well as prostitution. | Admittedly, these are two seperate issues at face value, but really I think their both connected in a big government way. And they have similar positive arguments from me.
To begin, bodily autonomy is an important human right. It's galling to think of the government telling us we can't use our bodies as we please, wh... | slytherin-by-night | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with assuming someone’s gender and people that get upset about it are just trying to be victims.
I posted two statements in one and will explain both individually.
*there is nothing wrong with assuming someone’s gender* the vast majority of people (especially in Western culture) are not in ... | There's a implicit assumption that there are many people who will be **absolutely outraged** if you accidentally misgender them. That is not the case. This is a fantasy of right-wing "cringe" compilations.
If you do it on purpose to be an asshole, then yes you are an asshole. But if you do it on accident, no is going... | The VAST majority of trans people do not use “did you just assume my gender” seriously. It’s a meme that was made up by cis gender folks. Trans people do have a right to feel sensitive about their gender and how they are perceived but that is usually not reflected with outrage. They will either ignore it or correct you... | ip7kqb | CMV: There is nothing wrong with assuming someone’s gender and people that get upset about it are just trying to be victims. | I posted two statements in one and will explain both individually.
*there is nothing wrong with assuming someone’s gender* the vast majority of people (especially in Western culture) are not in the LGBTQ+ spectrum, and even within those that are, people that are gender non-conforming are a small minority. These people ... | TallBoiPlanks | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with assuming someone’s gender and people that get upset about it are just trying to be victims.
I posted two statements in one and will explain both individually.
*there is nothing wrong with assuming someone’s gender* the vast majority of people (especially in Western culture) are not in ... | The word you’re looking for is “rare” or “unusual”. Just sayin, “weird” and “abnormal” absolutely do carry undertones of, well, aversion and discomfort in every day use. Saying something is “unusual” means exactly what you described in a numeric sense and no more.
Tbh, I’m not sure you tried very hard to hide the fact... | There's a implicit assumption that there are many people who will be **absolutely outraged** if you accidentally misgender them. That is not the case. This is a fantasy of right-wing "cringe" compilations.
If you do it on purpose to be an asshole, then yes you are an asshole. But if you do it on accident, no is going... | ip7kqb | CMV: There is nothing wrong with assuming someone’s gender and people that get upset about it are just trying to be victims. | I posted two statements in one and will explain both individually.
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CMV: The Second Amendment "right to bear arms" and the discussions surrounding gun control also apply to hacking tools.
I once had to give a presentation about [Metasploit](https://www.metasploit.com/), and whether it was ethically correct for the creator to make it free and open-source, available to everyone. And in ... | You talk about the ways these things might be analogous, but note that your views are inconsistent. I'm struggling to understand - what view it is that you mean for us to change?
As for why Cobalt Strike is restricted - it's their IP, and presumably their business model is the product and assist in its use for pen tes... | Fun one.
* The tool is inherently different. Guns are designed with an explicit purpose: to harm. Hacking tools are not inherently designed that way. So there is quite a divide regarding their utility.
* Being hacked is *most likely* not going to be life threatening, being shot, most likely is.
* Firearms are physical... | 14pxt2n | CMV: The Second Amendment "right to bear arms" and the discussions surrounding gun control also apply to hacking tools. | I once had to give a presentation about [Metasploit](https://www.metasploit.com/), and whether it was ethically correct for the creator to make it free and open-source, available to everyone. And in researching this I realized that there were a lot of parallels between the arguments for or against hacking tools being r... | hilfigertout | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Second Amendment "right to bear arms" and the discussions surrounding gun control also apply to hacking tools.
I once had to give a presentation about [Metasploit](https://www.metasploit.com/), and whether it was ethically correct for the creator to make it free and open-source, available to everyone. And in ... | I certainly agree that there are parallels, but the very obvious difference *as it pertains to the second amendment* is that I can't imagine a court ruling that hacking tools are considered "arms" in such a way as to be covered by the second amendment. If the second amendment didn't exist and we were discussing gun con... | Fun one.
* The tool is inherently different. Guns are designed with an explicit purpose: to harm. Hacking tools are not inherently designed that way. So there is quite a divide regarding their utility.
* Being hacked is *most likely* not going to be life threatening, being shot, most likely is.
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CMV: T*'s pro-Christian, pro-Israel, and anti-DEI stances amount to reverse discrimination
After almost 4 months with T\*'s 47 reign, I keep asking myself trying to convince myself that the following is not true (call me naive, I guess). Isn't the administration's extreme pro-Israel, anti-DEI, and pro-Christianity sta... | Can you articulate why you have that view and not just what your view is? What specifically is being done that is “reverse discrimination”? Can you lap top us what it is you mean when you use “reverse discrimination”?
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Here it goes: I'm Hispanic. American (PuertoRican). All my life I've experienced systemic racis... | Why is it reverse discrimination, or reverse racism, rather than just regular discrimination and/or racism?
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I'd have to posit that, since I'm basing a discriminatory system on what we have traditionally experienced in our society been deemed as "discrimination" (actions against minorities or benefiting a majority... | 1l8hogi | CMV: T*'s pro-Christian, pro-Israel, and anti-DEI stances amount to reverse discrimination | After almost 4 months with T\*'s 47 reign, I keep asking myself trying to convince myself that the following is not true (call me naive, I guess). Isn't the administration's extreme pro-Israel, anti-DEI, and pro-Christianity stances just plain reverse discrimination?
Basically, anything seen as "non-Christian" or "aga... | PR_Bella_Isla | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: humans are inherently evil because evil is what they tend to
*First, all things tend to their natural states. In other words, they tend towards the state of least effort.*
At room temperature and standard pressure, water tends to be liquid. It takes more effort to make it a gas or solid than to keep it a liquid.... | Wait, is eating pizza now EVIL? Is being jealous of a coworker EVIL? Is spending your own money EVIL?
When you set the bar on the literal floor for being evil, yes, every human will be constantly evil in your eyes. But that's a problem with your definition of evil rather than a problem with everybody being evil.
Li... | Your examples are weak.
Being passed for promotion/being filthy rich aren’t average situations.
It’s patently false that it takes more effort to cheat than remain faithful. Being faithful is the default state; one has to choose to cheat.
Eating pizza (even as an obese person) is not an inherently evil action?
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At room temperature and standard pressure, water tends to be liquid. It takes more effort to make it a gas or solid than to keep it a liquid.
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CMV: Artificial intelligence will never be incomprehensibly smarter than humans
[There are a lot of predictions that Artificial intelligence (AI) will destroy us](http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30290540). The theory goes that once it is invented, it will rapidly redesign itself, and after a few iterations of expon... | While I will stop short of saying it's a certainty, I'll posit an argument: it's highly plausible that AI will be much smarter than humans. Here's why:
1. We can improve the technology significantly. If you, like me, had started using computers in the 1980s, you would recognize the changes in human technology over... | >all thought must be a model of the natural world
What makes you think that? I can think of tons of impossible things.
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Hmm... I do need to refine that stamen. Would you accept; To make a prediction about the world in the future, given limited information about the present, a model of the real world must be used... | 61a9ya | CMV: Artificial intelligence will never be incomprehensibly smarter than humans | [There are a lot of predictions that Artificial intelligence (AI) will destroy us](http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30290540). The theory goes that once it is invented, it will rapidly redesign itself, and after a few iterations of exponential growth; it will be super intelligent. It will be intelligent in a way we c... | LineCircleTriangle | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Artificial intelligence will never be incomprehensibly smarter than humans
[There are a lot of predictions that Artificial intelligence (AI) will destroy us](http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30290540). The theory goes that once it is invented, it will rapidly redesign itself, and after a few iterations of expon... | Our brain is a limit. Our brain can't be larger than our head. A computer could be as large as a building or a city. Our brains simply can't have the processing power of a computer the size of a city. Technology doesn't have the natural limit of a brain.
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Why should we assume that bigger = more intelligent. My lap... | While I will stop short of saying it's a certainty, I'll posit an argument: it's highly plausible that AI will be much smarter than humans. Here's why:
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CMV: American progressives don't seem to understand how important swing voters are
I see a lot of progressive minded people online that are either unwilling or unable to understand that a lot of people are not really that interested in politics, they care more about celebrity gossip or professional sports or just the... | So MLK shouldnt have had the March to Washington? Ghandi shouldnt have protested Britain's occupation of India?
The only difference is we are so many decades out from men like them we know how it plays out and can see what they were fighting against. But the "swing voters" at the time fucking hated MLK Jr.
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They ... | If what u yave written is true then fence sitters arent acrually fence sitters.
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I see this response a lot.
Someone who purports to know more about the fence sitters than the fence sitters themselves. This sounds very arrogant and condescending.
The fact is that millions of people do switch their votes from ... | 1l8f9a1 | CMV: American progressives don't seem to understand how important swing voters are | I see a lot of progressive minded people online that are either unwilling or unable to understand that a lot of people are not really that interested in politics, they care more about celebrity gossip or professional sports or just their own lives. The thing is though, that such people often vote and end up having opi... | bluepillarmy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The modern LGBT movement is ultimately harmful to the majority of those within the LGBT community
The modern LGBT movement is all about pride and flaunting your sexuality, which I feel is hurtful to LGBT individuals. The whole point of the LGBT movement should be about making it so our sexuality **doesn't** matte... | Can you elaborate on what you mean when you say it's all about flaunting sexuality?
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Like, those under the LGB part of LGBT in the movement are all about "HEY EVERYONE I'M GAY" and a large group of the movement acts this way. This is especially a problem because most of the people I've met that are annoyed with LG... | > The whole point of the LGBT movement should be about making it so our sexuality doesn't matter to people.
This doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me. Why is this a worthwhile goal?
> It's also heavily politically charged and tends to disown anyone that doesn't have liberal beliefs, which is very dismissive ... | 6jau8e | CMV: The modern LGBT movement is ultimately harmful to the majority of those within the LGBT community | The modern LGBT movement is all about pride and flaunting your sexuality, which I feel is hurtful to LGBT individuals. The whole point of the LGBT movement should be about making it so our sexuality **doesn't** matter to people. It's also heavily politically charged and tends to disown anyone that doesn't have liberal ... | camalew | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: It's a terrible idea to live in Alaska
I don't see why anyone who has an alternative option would choose to live in *Alaska*. There are many states in the north of the main body of the United States that have the same wildlife and terrain, just without deadly cold winter temperatures. And the summers in Alaska. I... | Some people don't mind the cold and actually value the underpopulation. It's far more remote than the lower states - that is part of the appeal!
Your CMV would make sense if you said "it's a terrible idea for people *who don't like cold weather and rural areas* to live in Alaska."
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!delta I suppose that it could... | Can you clarify your view? Is it:
1\. "It's a terrible idea to live in Alaska."
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I don't see why anyone would want to live in the cold, it's not a pleasant feeling, and that's universal.
---
> it's not a pleasant feeling, and that's universal.
Wel... | 619eu4 | CMV: It's a terrible idea to live in Alaska | I don't see why anyone who has an alternative option would choose to live in *Alaska*. There are many states in the north of the main body of the United States that have the same wildlife and terrain, just without deadly cold winter temperatures. And the summers in Alaska. It's only like fifty degrees, and fall and spr... | Dat_Das | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's a terrible idea to live in Alaska
I don't see why anyone who has an alternative option would choose to live in *Alaska*. There are many states in the north of the main body of the United States that have the same wildlife and terrain, just without deadly cold winter temperatures. And the summers in Alaska. I... | Can you clarify your view? Is it:
1\. "It's a terrible idea to live in Alaska."
OR
2\. "It's a terrible idea ***for me*** to live in Alaska."
---
I don't see why anyone would want to live in the cold, it's not a pleasant feeling, and that's universal.
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It really isn't universal. I very much enjoy cold temper... | Some people don't mind the cold and actually value the underpopulation. It's far more remote than the lower states - that is part of the appeal!
Your CMV would make sense if you said "it's a terrible idea for people *who don't like cold weather and rural areas* to live in Alaska."
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!delta I suppose that it could... | 619eu4 | CMV: It's a terrible idea to live in Alaska | I don't see why anyone who has an alternative option would choose to live in *Alaska*. There are many states in the north of the main body of the United States that have the same wildlife and terrain, just without deadly cold winter temperatures. And the summers in Alaska. It's only like fifty degrees, and fall and spr... | Dat_Das | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's a terrible idea to live in Alaska
I don't see why anyone who has an alternative option would choose to live in *Alaska*. There are many states in the north of the main body of the United States that have the same wildlife and terrain, just without deadly cold winter temperatures. And the summers in Alaska. I... | > On a final note, it's very unpopulated.
Which is it's biggest selling point. It'd be awesome to be able to go several months without seeing another human being.
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To be honest, I disagree. That would suck.
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As an agoraphobic introvert I disagree with you. It would be awesome to live alone. | Can you clarify your view? Is it:
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I don't see why anyone would want to live in the cold, it's not a pleasant feeling, and that's universal.
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CMV: all holidays should be based on the day of the week and not calendar date
For context, tomorrow is the fourth of July and in the united states a lot of employers give that day off. However, because it's a Tuesday this year, many companies will not give the preceding Monday off. This means in order for someone t... | The Jewish calendar does not align with the modern calendar.
So, to be clear, do you think that Jewish New Year should not be set on the day of the Jewish New Year?
It is a Holiday, and you're saying "all Holidays" should be treated this way.
How does changing how we Jews celebrate our Holidays affect the 97.6% of p... | If we are trying to celebrate a historical event, it makes sense that we celebrate on the date that the event took place.
Like birthdays, for example. The date itself has meaning. Sure, we could celebrate your birthday on a more convenient day of the week, but the significance of that specific date is diminished.
If ... | 14pw5u7 | CMV: all holidays should be based on the day of the week and not calendar date | For context, tomorrow is the fourth of July and in the united states a lot of employers give that day off. However, because it's a Tuesday this year, many companies will not give the preceding Monday off. This means in order for someone to have a long weekend they need to use PTO. I think all holidays should be like... | loverboyv | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Limiting my privacy rights won't really affect me personally
Ok, so this isn't exactly the typical "If I'm not doing anything wrong, why should I care." Even though I don't really do anything illegal/weird on the internet, I understand that if the government wanted to, they could definitely find stuff out about m... | > However, my main point is, even though the government could find stuff to take me down with, why would they?
Bunch of reasons:
* Politics. If you ever get involved in something contentious that doesn't align with the current government, this could be used against you. Now maybe you don't intend to be the next Marti... | Would your stance change if there's a new party in power that wants to criminalize some of your behaviours? What if a party in power decides to criminalize something that was not in their platform during the election?
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Sure, they could, but then they'd have to criminalize a massive chunk of the US population. My p... | 619jjk | CMV: Limiting my privacy rights won't really affect me personally | Ok, so this isn't exactly the typical "If I'm not doing anything wrong, why should I care." Even though I don't really do anything illegal/weird on the internet, I understand that if the government wanted to, they could definitely find stuff out about me that would sufficient in sabotaging my reputation, if not incrimi... | owiseone23 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Universal Human Rights, Natural Rights, and God-given Rights Do Not Meaningfully Exist
I've held this opinion for a while and am curious if there are some ways to think about these kinds of rights (henceforth called Natural Rights for simplicity) in a coherent and meaningful way. A lot has been written about them... | You're right that what is considered "natural rights" has obviously changed over time and is not completely agreed upon by everyone, but I would argue that they do meaningfully exist. Many human ideas, such as morality or ethics, all have very fuzzy edges. But most people would agree that they *do* exists, and will the... | So when Americans say rape should be punished and Iranians say gay sex should be punished, it's just different laws for different countries, no particular reason to favor one over the other?
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People can have reasons for their opinions. But those reasons are not based on natural rights. What you call human rights a... | 14pu6xe | CMV: Universal Human Rights, Natural Rights, and God-given Rights Do Not Meaningfully Exist | I've held this opinion for a while and am curious if there are some ways to think about these kinds of rights (henceforth called Natural Rights for simplicity) in a coherent and meaningful way. A lot has been written about them and I haven't read most of it.
When people talk about rights, they're typically talking abo... | Beyond_Reason09 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: western society including social attitudes and economically will fall by the end of the 21st century and honestly I am just fine with that.
I think that the west is declining and its for the best. I am a 18 year old Russo-Irishman. I think that the east is rising both socially and economically. when I say the eas... | Russia has declining birth rates, declining economy and pretty shocking mortality rates for men. What makes you think Russia is 'rising'?
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they now have a lot of influence in Europe, they are setting up bases in Syria, so by extension the middle east, Iran is a huge part of this and speaking of which ounce they g... | Do you really think that women's right are protected by the countries you are talking about? Russia? India and the rest?
Is it respectful to a woman to state that her only place is in the kitchen caring for kids? WE respect you so much by restricting what you do seems like a hard sell.
Because I don't think that is.... | 616sxe | CMV: western society including social attitudes and economically will fall by the end of the 21st century and honestly I am just fine with that. | I think that the west is declining and its for the best. I am a 18 year old Russo-Irishman. I think that the east is rising both socially and economically. when I say the east I mean east of Poland to the tip of japan. So Asia, the middle east, and Russia. I feel that by 2025 either China, India, or Russia will be the ... | Declanfeeney3 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Extreme views / proposals, for example abolition of the police, do more harm than good for their associated political ideology by “damaging the brand”; moderates should accordingly do more to distance themselves from them.
*TL;DR hypothetical of my point: I like Rick and Morty. I am trying to convince friend who’... | While I agree to some extent, they can also normalize less extreme proposals. Sure, "abolish the police" is an extreme proposal. But because of how extreme it is, stuff like "divest a little bit of money from policing into other community protection" feels more normal.
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I can agree with that, but I suppose it woul... | >...it is incredibly easy for me to do by showing them that the left really are suggesting that the entire police should be abolished.
Who is the "left" here? Who is actually proposing *actual* abolishment of the police? Biden? No. Pelosi? No. Any democratic governor? No. State legislature? No. Anybody that actually h... | ip1112 | CMV: Extreme views / proposals, for example abolition of the police, do more harm than good for their associated political ideology by “damaging the brand”; moderates should accordingly do more to distance themselves from them. | *TL;DR hypothetical of my point: I like Rick and Morty. I am trying to convince friend who’s never watched it that, so far as things go, it’s a reasonably clever and funny show. My friend is hesitant because they’re mainly familiar with the stereotype of R&M fans being condescending, “you wouldn’t understand it” fanati... | profheg_II | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: if it is racist to require an ID to vote, it is also racist to require an ID to buy a gun.
CMV: If it is racist to require voter ID, it is racist to require ID to buy (or OWN) a gun.
TLDR:
I think it follows (and welcome further discussion) that if we establish that we have some fundamental human rights, and a b... | The reason people say that voter ID is racist is because voter ID policies have been specifically passed by republican politicians with the express goal of making it harder for minorities to vote.
In north carolina, for example, when they wrote their voter ID law they requested a breakdown of what ID people in the sta... | You still have to register to vote, which in itself is a way of checking if you are eligible to vote legally.
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I have registered in multiple states (I move around a lot) and Identification is not required in most, nor the act of voting itself.
The baseline that I have seen is requiring a name, a last four and an ... | kzljd8 | CMV: if it is racist to require an ID to vote, it is also racist to require an ID to buy a gun. | CMV: If it is racist to require voter ID, it is racist to require ID to buy (or OWN) a gun.
TLDR:
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It's okay to be a woman against women's rights
Well the I tried to post this elsewhere to get the opinion of other women, but the mod booted me and stated this CMV would be more suitable. So I've copy/pasted my original post below.
Before I start I want to say that I don't mean to hurt or offend anyone, and I am be... | Can I ask *why* you would want to return to a world where men and women don't have equal opportunities? What is the benefit of that to you?
In today's world, if you want a career you can have one. If you don't, you can be a stay at home mom (like in the 1950s).
Why would you want to have only one option and not bot... | >I wouldn't have a problem returning to a system in which equal wages would be a non-issue (i.e. the world of my great-grandparents where men worked and women primarily cared for the home and the children).
While you may feel that way, by advocating for a return to that system you are saying that "all women" should be... | 6155xj | It's okay to be a woman against women's rights |
Well the I tried to post this elsewhere to get the opinion of other women, but the mod booted me and stated this CMV would be more suitable. So I've copy/pasted my original post below.
Before I start I want to say that I don't mean to hurt or offend anyone, and I am being completely serious. I'm a 23 year old woman ... | amxoo | 7 | 7 | [
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It's okay to be a woman against women's rights
Well the I tried to post this elsewhere to get the opinion of other women, but the mod booted me and stated this CMV would be more suitable. So I've copy/pasted my original post below.
Before I start I want to say that I don't mean to hurt or offend anyone, and I am be... | Can I ask *why* you would want to return to a world where men and women don't have equal opportunities? What is the benefit of that to you?
In today's world, if you want a career you can have one. If you don't, you can be a stay at home mom (like in the 1950s).
Why would you want to have only one option and not bot... | You are certainly welcome to have whatever view of gender roles that you want, as well as find abortion immoral, or whatever else. That is your right to think independently. I think Ali Wong's "Baby Cobra" did a hilarious job pushing on (one part) of [this idea.](http://www.vogue.com/article/ali-wong-baby-cobra-netflix... | 6155xj | It's okay to be a woman against women's rights |
Well the I tried to post this elsewhere to get the opinion of other women, but the mod booted me and stated this CMV would be more suitable. So I've copy/pasted my original post below.
Before I start I want to say that I don't mean to hurt or offend anyone, and I am being completely serious. I'm a 23 year old woman ... | amxoo | 5 | 5 | [
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It's okay to be a woman against women's rights
Well the I tried to post this elsewhere to get the opinion of other women, but the mod booted me and stated this CMV would be more suitable. So I've copy/pasted my original post below.
Before I start I want to say that I don't mean to hurt or offend anyone, and I am be... | Can I ask *why* you would want to return to a world where men and women don't have equal opportunities? What is the benefit of that to you?
In today's world, if you want a career you can have one. If you don't, you can be a stay at home mom (like in the 1950s).
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Well the I tried to post this elsewhere to get the opinion of other women, but the mod booted me and stated this CMV would be more suitable. So I've copy/pasted my original post below.
Before I start I want to say that I don't mean to hurt or offend anyone, and I am being completely serious. I'm a 23 year old woman ... | amxoo | 6 | 6 | [
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It's okay to be a woman against women's rights
Well the I tried to post this elsewhere to get the opinion of other women, but the mod booted me and stated this CMV would be more suitable. So I've copy/pasted my original post below.
Before I start I want to say that I don't mean to hurt or offend anyone, and I am be... | What's worse- the pressure to get a career or the inability to do so? In one scenario, people can make their life choices although one choice is slightly harder to do, in the other, there is only one choice. I don't see why anyone would prefer the latter.
And frankly, regardless of your personal opinion, I highly dou... | >I wouldn't have a problem returning to a system in which equal wages would be a non-issue (i.e. the world of my great-grandparents where men worked and women primarily cared for the home and the children).
While you may feel that way, by advocating for a return to that system you are saying that "all women" should be... | 6155xj | It's okay to be a woman against women's rights |
Well the I tried to post this elsewhere to get the opinion of other women, but the mod booted me and stated this CMV would be more suitable. So I've copy/pasted my original post below.
Before I start I want to say that I don't mean to hurt or offend anyone, and I am being completely serious. I'm a 23 year old woman ... | amxoo | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Seth Rich Murder is not a Conspiracy
Disclaimer** all of the "infowars sources" is all segments from one interview, in which the main lawyer of the DNC Fraud lawsuit was interviewed, which was the only reason I have it in here at all. It is a good video**
Ok so basically I have found a bunch of facts from la... | Your fact number 4 has literally 0 evidence behind it. You have nothing to tie Seth rich to the lawsuit. Fact number 5 is from info wars. Info wars is a far right conspiracy site run so Alex jones can sell supplements. It's not a valid source. Jones frequently lies. His lawyers argued in court that he can't be taken se... | I think you need to recognize that the plaintiffs in the DNC lawsuit probably aren't the most unbiased sources around, and you seem to be taking the things they say as gospel truth. For instance, I don't see any reason to think that Seth Rich would have been subpoenaed in the suit had he not died, nor would murdering a... | 6ja882 | CMV: The Seth Rich Murder is not a Conspiracy | Disclaimer** all of the "infowars sources" is all segments from one interview, in which the main lawyer of the DNC Fraud lawsuit was interviewed, which was the only reason I have it in here at all. It is a good video**
Ok so basically I have found a bunch of facts from lawyers in ongoing cases, and from sources that I... | bobdylan401 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Using AI to win arguments ON REDDIT is wild. It needs to stop.
So I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but on one of my recent posts (about self improvement or something), I started seeing replies *ON OTHER SUBREDDITS (NOT HERE, EVER)* that were clearly written by AI.
You know the type…
*“You’re absol... | It's absolutely absurd to claim that people aren't learning or improving themselves with ai.
If I'd like I can become 100000% better at writing excel formulas with even a quick intro lesson from any LLM model. Likewise if a thing is accurate and an AI tells you it. It does not mean it did not happen.
>It’s literall... | Counterpoint: If you lose an argument to AI you're not very good at arguing.
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controversial study that found that AI was just better at arguing than people were?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01599-7
I believe Reddit is suing them.
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Yes. Tbh the average r... | 1l83qz5 | CMV: Using AI to win arguments ON REDDIT is wild. It needs to stop. | So I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this, but on one of my recent posts (about self improvement or something), I started seeing replies *ON OTHER SUBREDDITS (NOT HERE, EVER)* that were clearly written by AI.
You know the type…
*“You’re absolutely right to bring this up. But, here’s the deal:”*…
Then it conti... | ichfahreumdenSIEG | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you’re not vegan you are a bad person (for the most part)
It is my belief that if you’re not vegan you are an animal abuser and therefore a bad person. However I acknowledge outliers, specifically, this belief is for all people born and raised in the developed world who have access to the internet and have ful... | [deleted]
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Note that I said that if you are not vegan you are a bad person. I did not argue that if you are vegan you are automatically a good person. Furthermore, it comes down to accountability. If you have enough access to information and it does not impede your ability to live a healthy, practical life, then y... | Personally, I disagree with your overall view, but that's gonna be a really long discussion that I don't particularly want to get involved in.
That being the case, I instead want to bring up a specific example. Growing up, I had a pretty big back yard, so my family had some chickens. They were treated well, had a big ... | kztxlz | CMV: If you’re not vegan you are a bad person (for the most part) | It is my belief that if you’re not vegan you are an animal abuser and therefore a bad person. However I acknowledge outliers, specifically, this belief is for all people born and raised in the developed world who have access to the internet and have fully intact mental faculties, having their basic needs met. For examp... | Daedric21 | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: DoorDash and UberEats aren’t expensive
In fact, I’d argue they are super cheap for what they are: a personalized delivery service.
I get many people on here weren’t around pre-online delivery services, but if you told us in the 90s that we could put an order in from almost any restaurant and have somebody bring ... | There are different ways “expensive” can be used. Here are a few:
Buying a $100,000 house is expensive because it’s a lot of money, even if it’s a great deal for that house. (Total Expenditure)
Buying a dozen eggs for $20 is expensive because that’s high relative to the market cost of eggs. (Market Value)
Always buy... | Your argument is essentially that DoorDash and UberEats provide significant value relative to the cost.
However, your title says “DoorDash and UberEats aren’t expensive” - and they are. Just because you think something is worth the price doesn’t mean it isn’t expensive.
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I get many people on here weren’t around pre-online delivery services, but if you told us in the 90s that we could put an order in from almost any restaurant and have somebody bring it right to our door, this would be viewed as... | AlHucs | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Milo Yiannopoulos is the worst choice of a person to speak at Universities.
I think the fact that certain Universities knowingly allow someone who perpetuates hate speech, who has instigated attacks against individuals, and more importantly does not instill civil discussion is insane. I think bringing people with... | I live in NJ. In 2014 students at Rutgers protested former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice from speaking on campus to the point of her cancelling her appearance. It was not as extreme as this situation, but the point was made clear - her views were not welcome.
About a year later Barack Obama came to the school an... | From what I've witnessed, milo has never condoned any hate speech during his speeches. The only thing uncivil that happens sometimes during his speeches are the people who start yelling and rioting when he presents his opinions and facts/statistics. It's mostly the leftists who disagree with what he's saying who turn t... | 5rr1zb | CMV: Milo Yiannopoulos is the worst choice of a person to speak at Universities. | I think the fact that certain Universities knowingly allow someone who perpetuates hate speech, who has instigated attacks against individuals, and more importantly does not instill civil discussion is insane. I think bringing people with opposing views to liberal campuses is a good thing, but Milo Yiannopoulos is one ... | rectumpirate | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: feminine jobs should get paid the same as masculine jobs (nurses and CEOs)
It would be better for everyone! People say they ‘respect’ people who are good at doing feminine jobs*; be it their mom or a single dad, or nurses.
But ‘respect’ doesn’t give you financial independence in a relationship. You cannot leave... | You almost kinda have a point, sort of. Perhaps if your view was 'Traditionally feminine jobs pay less than traditionally masculine jobs of the same skill and value, and this should be addressed', or 'The job market discriminates against women because they are more likely to be absent to raise children'. You could even... | There is no such thing as feminine jobs and masculine jobs. To classify jobs as being feminine and masculine is incredibly misogynistic.
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Bullshit. Testosterone is a steroid - there are absolutely jobs that benefit from steroids.
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The fact that you too are a misogynist doesn’t validate your comment.
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But ‘respect’ doesn’t give you financial independence in a relationship. You cannot leave and never see the man again until the child turns 18. You have no control as the... | jopiepopiedopie | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: For some crimes, it should be mandatory to trial the offender as an adult
My country (and I believe several others in Europe) don't really have the provisions for a minor to be tried as an adult. And generally, I agree. If underage criminals can be tried as adults or juveniles for the same crime, it becomes very ... | If a ten year-old find their parent's gun and starts shooting it at their bullies because "that's what a vigilante does in the movies!" you think they ought to be tried on the same basis as a seventeen-year-old who brings a gun to school and shoots people because they want to see the world burn?
There's a reason tria... | If a five year old is mad at their little brother, grabs a knife, and kills them, do you think that five year old should be tried for murder as an adult? That would be premeditated, so we're looking at murder 1 in the US, leading to life without parole or possibly execution. Does that seem like the best thing for socie... | 1l81q9r | CMV: For some crimes, it should be mandatory to trial the offender as an adult | My country (and I believe several others in Europe) don't really have the provisions for a minor to be tried as an adult. And generally, I agree. If underage criminals can be tried as adults or juveniles for the same crime, it becomes very arbitrary because you know the system will make the most bullshit decisions on w... | EmployNormal1215 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Halal and Kosher meat will become illegal to produce, buy, and sell in the West in the coming century if not decades.
1. An increasing amount of people think that eating meat is wrong to begin with, and even more people think that the method of slaughter used when killing the animal is barbaric and unnecessarily ... | There's just no chance that Halal will be banned or if it is, that it will stay banned for long. Look at the [birth rates of Muslims](http://i.imgur.com/MWZL6gZ.png) in the Western world. In every one of these countries it is higher than non-Muslims.
On a long term view, Halal will simply not be banned due to these d... | [deleted]
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My point is that there is only freedom of religion if society deems the religion and its beliefs and practices tolerable. If there is something society cannot tolerate about a religion, it will work to ban that aspect of that religion at the least.
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2. Attitudes towards religions (especially organized ones wi... | Positron311 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: In the USA, pro-Palestine protests are largely useless
1. It's not a domestic problem. A lot of pro-Palestine protestors claim "Oh but they did this during the civil rights in the 1960s so we are justified also". No it's completely different, that was a literal domestic problem impacting US citizens directly. Wh... | > It's not a domestic problem.
Vietnam
> Protestors are turning people away.
Allegedly moderate alleged majority never end up mattering, see 1963 Gallup poll: [[1]](https://jfk.blogs.archives.gov/2020/08/27/making-the-march-on-washington/)
> A 1963 Gallup poll found that only 23% of Americans who'd heard of the M... | Depends what the goal is. If the goal is to get the IDF out of Gaza, it's obviously pointless. Israel is going to do what it feels it needs to regardless of what anyone in the US does. If the goal is collective punishment of the Israeli people, then it can be effective in getting colleges to divest their Israeli invest... | 1eara0v | CMV: In the USA, pro-Palestine protests are largely useless | 1. It's not a domestic problem. A lot of pro-Palestine protestors claim "Oh but they did this during the civil rights in the 1960s so we are justified also". No it's completely different, that was a literal domestic problem impacting US citizens directly. What is happening in Israel/Palestine has no direct bearing on U... | InnerMixture1409 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: as a college graduate virgin I have no hope to have a proper social or sex life
I am a 24-year-old male college graduate having graduated a little before things started getting messy last year. I believe there is no way I can have a proper sex life or social life now that I am so old with so little social or sexu... | Only if you choose to do so. Online dating is a great way to meet people. Don't advertise that you're a virgin and don't let it get in your head. It's not a big deal and to the right person it won't matter. If someone judges you for it, drop them. There's nothing wrong with you.
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Online dating is not a good way to... | Have you tried online dating? I hear it’s just super.
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I haven't tried online dating. As far as I understand it it is absolutely hopeless unless you are already sexually active without using online dating.
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>As far as I understand it it is absolutely hopeless unless you are already sexually active without usi... | kzja0b | CMV: as a college graduate virgin I have no hope to have a proper social or sex life | I am a 24-year-old male college graduate having graduated a little before things started getting messy last year. I believe there is no way I can have a proper sex life or social life now that I am so old with so little social or sexual experiences. Money is not an issue for me, I make decent money and my family is ric... | [deleted] | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Voter ID laws are not racist.
Voter ID laws in the U.S. are very controversial, with some calling it racist. Since a majority of countries in the world requires some form of IDs to vote, why should the U.S. be any different. It would make sure it was a fair election, and less controversy.
The main argument I have... | [deleted]
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You need an Id to do nearly everything to live in the U.S. so how can people even do anything without an ID. You need it to get a bank account, government assistance, a job and so much more.
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11% of americans have no government issued ID and it can cost 75-175 dollars to get one in many places. The... | [deleted]
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You need an ID to basically live in this country, even to collect government benefits, so pleaes explain how people go thru there lives with no ID.
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But they do. Hundreds of thousands of people do live with no ID. I have no idea how they do it but do it they do | iovib9 | CMV: Voter ID laws are not racist. | Voter ID laws in the U.S. are very controversial, with some calling it racist. Since a majority of countries in the world requires some form of IDs to vote, why should the U.S. be any different. It would make sure it was a fair election, and less controversy.
The main argument I have heard against voter ID is that its ... | dj1greatest | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Voter ID laws are not racist.
Voter ID laws in the U.S. are very controversial, with some calling it racist. Since a majority of countries in the world requires some form of IDs to vote, why should the U.S. be any different. It would make sure it was a fair election, and less controversy.
The main argument I have... | [deleted]
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You need an ID to basically live in this country, even to collect government benefits, so pleaes explain how people go thru there lives with no ID.
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I can't recall the last time I needed to show my ID to anyone. If I didn't have a car I wouldn't need a drivers license. Plenty of people don't use ... | [deleted]
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You need an Id to do nearly everything to live in the U.S. so how can people even do anything without an ID. You need it to get a bank account, government assistance, a job and so much more.
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[deleted] | iovib9 | CMV: Voter ID laws are not racist. | Voter ID laws in the U.S. are very controversial, with some calling it racist. Since a majority of countries in the world requires some form of IDs to vote, why should the U.S. be any different. It would make sure it was a fair election, and less controversy.
The main argument I have heard against voter ID is that its ... | dj1greatest | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Voter ID laws are not racist.
Voter ID laws in the U.S. are very controversial, with some calling it racist. Since a majority of countries in the world requires some form of IDs to vote, why should the U.S. be any different. It would make sure it was a fair election, and less controversy.
The main argument I have... | [deleted]
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You need an Id to do nearly everything to live in the U.S. so how can people even do anything without an ID. You need it to get a bank account, government assistance, a job and so much more.
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There are currently over 3 million americans that do not have any form of ID. You says it's impossible to l... | [deleted]
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You need an ID to basically live in this country, even to collect government benefits, so pleaes explain how people go thru there lives with no ID.
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There are types of IDs that are acceptable to the government to claim benefits, open a bank account, get a job etc. that aren’t accepted by state gove... | iovib9 | CMV: Voter ID laws are not racist. | Voter ID laws in the U.S. are very controversial, with some calling it racist. Since a majority of countries in the world requires some form of IDs to vote, why should the U.S. be any different. It would make sure it was a fair election, and less controversy.
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CMV: If PPP loans were forgiven for the rich, student loans should be canceled for the poor.
It feels completely backwards to me that the majority of congress is against canceling student loan debt and ~~SCOTUS is also against cancelation~~ while seemingly approving of business owners getting their PPP loans forgiven ... | >SCOTUS is also against cancelation
why do you think this?
>while seemingly approving of business owners getting their PPP loans forgiven (many of the congress members who voted against it had their own PPP loans forgiven).
what is the difference between a loan you agreed to pay back and a loan that was specifically... | No, because the house & senate passed the PPP loan forgiveness.
Congress did not pass any such student loan forgiveness.
Just because Biden tried to buy votes by bribing college students that doesn't make it right for the average working man without a college degree to have to pay for student loans they did not take.... | 14oqlw9 | CMV: If PPP loans were forgiven for the rich, student loans should be canceled for the poor. | It feels completely backwards to me that the majority of congress is against canceling student loan debt and ~~SCOTUS is also against cancelation~~ while seemingly approving of business owners getting their PPP loans forgiven (many of the congress members who voted against it had their own PPP loans forgiven).
~~The ... | Anxious_Set_6342 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: i believe time is an illusion
Time is a manipulation. A construct.
Clocks exist, but time doesn’t
Not like we think.
There are two types.
Physical time is movement.
The Earth spinning, the Earth orbiting the Sun.
That’s all it is.
Then there’s numerical time.
Man’s version.
Hours, days, months, calendars
They cha... | I think time might be circular. I think the universe will forever be in a cyclical 'breathing' pattern, that's how I visualize it at least. The big bang happens and everything expands and all the galaxies are created over time and everything happens, then the expansion loses its momentum eventually and everything falls... | What does it mean for time be an illusion? Your writing is not clear
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as I said to previous comments, there are two forms of time physical and numerical wine is based off solid facts and the other is created by men
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Pretty sure there’s just one time, and then there’s the way we measure and count time. | 1l7r4hf | CMV: i believe time is an illusion | Time is a manipulation. A construct.
Clocks exist, but time doesn’t
Not like we think.
There are two types.
Physical time is movement.
The Earth spinning, the Earth orbiting the Sun.
That’s all it is.
Then there’s numerical time.
Man’s version.
Hours, days, months, calendars
They change from culture to culture
It’s not... | Express_Mechanic4927 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Coach class airplane seats should NOT be able to recline.
I think that the ability for coach class airplane seats to recline does no good. It only serves to make what is usually a terrible flight experience even worse.
Whenever I recline on an airplane, I barely notice a difference. It's as if I didn't do anythi... | Have you even flown on a red-eye flight or a long international flight? It is very difficult to sleep without reclining the seat. I agree with you about shorter flights that it is better for everyone involved to not recline, but if that isn't an option on the plane it will apply on flights that leave LA at midnight and... | If you are fortunate enough not to suffer from chronic back pain that makes it an excruciating experience to sit straight up in a cramped seat for 6 hours, then consider yourself privileged.
Just because it doesn't help you doesn't mean that it doesn't help others. Indeed, think about it logically: it takes effort to... | 6j4ank | CMV: Coach class airplane seats should NOT be able to recline. | I think that the ability for coach class airplane seats to recline does no good. It only serves to make what is usually a terrible flight experience even worse.
Whenever I recline on an airplane, I barely notice a difference. It's as if I didn't do anything.
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I think that the ability for coach class airplane seats to recline does no good. It only serves to make what is usually a terrible flight experience even worse.
Whenever I recline on an airplane, I barely notice a difference. It's as if I didn't do anythi... | Have you even flown on a red-eye flight or a long international flight? It is very difficult to sleep without reclining the seat. I agree with you about shorter flights that it is better for everyone involved to not recline, but if that isn't an option on the plane it will apply on flights that leave LA at midnight and... | If you are fortunate enough not to suffer from chronic back pain that makes it an excruciating experience to sit straight up in a cramped seat for 6 hours, then consider yourself privileged.
Just because it doesn't help you doesn't mean that it doesn't help others. Indeed, think about it logically: it takes effort to... | 6j4ank | CMV: Coach class airplane seats should NOT be able to recline. | I think that the ability for coach class airplane seats to recline does no good. It only serves to make what is usually a terrible flight experience even worse.
Whenever I recline on an airplane, I barely notice a difference. It's as if I didn't do anything.
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CMV: People of sound mind have the right to end their own life
If a person is “of age” (meaning the age set by law/cultural agreement to be an adult) and is capable of decision making, they have a right to bodily autonomy. That extends to the ability to choose to destroy their own body, up to and including death. Furt... | > meaning the age set by law/cultural agreement to be an adult
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In societies where cultural agreement is that suicide is a negative and steps should be ta... | Your friend hears you say this, and he kills himself.
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Cute. Some of my friends are dead. | 1fpkw1m | CMV: People of sound mind have the right to end their own life | If a person is “of age” (meaning the age set by law/cultural agreement to be an adult) and is capable of decision making, they have a right to bodily autonomy. That extends to the ability to choose to destroy their own body, up to and including death. Furthermore, depriving this person of that choice is depriving them ... | Kemilio | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If the Abrahamic God does exist, he is not necessarily perfect
To start with, I am an atheist but for the purpose of this I would like to assume that the Abrahamic God does exist, this shouldn't derail into a debate about the existence of God.
The Abrahamic God is considered to be perfect. Everything the does i... | TL;DR: The term "perfect" implies that there is some objective standard to which a thing is being held. If there is a singular being which creates literally everything else in existence, then that being is, by definition, the only standard to which the rest of existence can be held, because nothing else exists.
Though... | >For what reason, other than just trusting what he says, do we have for believing that he is perfect?
It's not about trusting what He says. By virtue of who He is (God) He sets the rules. They are His to do with as He pleases. He is the creator and supreme ruler of the universe. He's not an elected official nor was Hi... | 78udup | CMV: If the Abrahamic God does exist, he is not necessarily perfect | To start with, I am an atheist but for the purpose of this I would like to assume that the Abrahamic God does exist, this shouldn't derail into a debate about the existence of God.
The Abrahamic God is considered to be perfect. Everything the does is good because he cannot do wrong. But as people, how would we actual... | iMac_Hunt | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: The USA doesn't need the worlds 2 biggest airforces, and more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined.
As some Republicans argue that European nations can afford their social services because they don't need as big of a military as us. Even if we cut back to the largest airforce and 3 carriers with ... | It depends on what you want your goals to be.
Being the only Superpower, as you put is 'OP'. We are the biggest baddest bully on the block and can do pretty much whatever we want. Only a handful of nations can put any time of meaningful dispute with us and that is backed by Nukes.
If you like the ability to carry the... | In 2015, the U.S. spent less than $600 billion on defense. This amounts to 4% of the total personal income for that year. You could just as easily place a 4% flat tax (obviously not the first choice, but simplest) on everyone and increase the total amount spent on social services by an amount equal to the total defense... | ao4csa | Cmv: The USA doesn't need the worlds 2 biggest airforces, and more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined. | As some Republicans argue that European nations can afford their social services because they don't need as big of a military as us. Even if we cut back to the largest airforce and 3 carriers with the combined power of the EU Russia and China would be hard pressed even if they were fighting side by side.
Then there is ... | notwithagoat | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Nat Turner did nothing wrong.
Nat, whose master's name was Turner, was being held against his will along with a few others. He knew of others who were in his predicament, so he set out to free them also. If this had been a Nazi-held POW scenario, his actions would have been cheered. In fact, even the recent victi... | Killing defensless children is wrong. Children whom had no choice or sway over their parents. Children who were too young to form their own opinions. While he spared poor people because they were treated similarly to black people (Nat’s own thoughts.) he did not spare women or children.
Nat did not only want to free ... | He did something wrong, because he failed
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I don't consider trying & failing to be wrong exactly, he did bring about a harder life for slaves after his death, his failed insurrection caused murders and oppressive laws to happen, but I don't hold him as guilty for them.
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CMV: There is no way that any estranged parent doesn't know the reason why their kids cut them off and went no-contact.
It is common for many parents whose adult offspring have gone no-contact and cut them off to complain that they have no idea why their sons/daughters cut off contact - or to ascribe some sort of ridi... | It really depends on what you understand when somebody say "they didn't know".
Do you think it's possible they heard their child's explanation but it just sounds meaningless to them? Like, they cannot relate to it or connect the dots at all, therefore they stay at "I just don't know why they don't wanna be around me"?... | >Essentially, usually the adult son or daughter has given the parent(s) MUCH explanation and reason of what has gone wrong, and the parent continuously ignored it and then the kid did indeed make good on the threat and left.
What do you beleive is the reason why the parents ignored the explanation?
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I think the [Missing Missing Reasons blog post](https://www.issendai.com/psychology/e... | SteadfastEnd | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Trump should NOT be impeached because his crimes, even if TRUE, are far less severe than what previous presidents have done.
The last two presidents committed far worse acts, George W. Bush (who democrats pretend to love all of a sudden) committed a completely illegal and totally unconstitutional violation of the... | Even supposing the allegations you've made against Bush and Obama are totally accurate, it does seem a bit strange to not pursue impeachment against trump on the grounds of fairness. Imagine making that argument in court: "Look your Honor, I know I killed a man. But a lot of murders go unsolved, the perpetrators walkin... | [removed]
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what? because the concept of banning people from certain places has only existed in countries with racist roots? okay boomer | dzo2xy | CMV: Trump should NOT be impeached because his crimes, even if TRUE, are far less severe than what previous presidents have done. | The last two presidents committed far worse acts, George W. Bush (who democrats pretend to love all of a sudden) committed a completely illegal and totally unconstitutional violation of the 4th amendment of the constitution with the [warrantless wiretap program](https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/politics/bush-lets-us... | 2ndandtwenty | 3 | 3 | [
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The last two presidents committed far worse acts, George W. Bush (who democrats pretend to love all of a sudden) committed a completely illegal and totally unconstitutional violation of the... | Generally presidents aren’t impeached for behavior that is, or ends up being, unpopular but within the normal mandate of their presidential powers. Elections are for judging those actions. The specific issue with Trump here (and Nixon) is that he was attempting to use his power to invite interference into our election.... | [removed]
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CMV: Skinhead culture is inherently black and has nothing to do with neo-nazis and right-wing politics
Skinhead culture was born from the marriage of the Jamaican rude boy and the British mod(most notably hard-mods) in the mid to late 1960s. The influx of Jamaican immigrants to the Uk brought along with them the rude ... | Just because the fashion currently associated with skinheads originated in black communities does not mean that today's skinhead culture has "nothing" to do with naziism and right wing extremism. The fact is that the people we call skinheads today are neonazis.
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Who is we in this sentence? Since most skinheads I ... | I think what you are hitting on is the fact that the same term is used for two different groups in two different countries.
In the US "Skin-Head" is used to describe the group of white supremacist Neo-Nazis primarily from the 70s who also tended to shave their heads to distinguish themselves from the hippy movements ... | b2zl40 | CMV: Skinhead culture is inherently black and has nothing to do with neo-nazis and right-wing politics | Skinhead culture was born from the marriage of the Jamaican rude boy and the British mod(most notably hard-mods) in the mid to late 1960s. The influx of Jamaican immigrants to the Uk brought along with them the rude boy and ska youth movements, which introduced the suits, thin ties, and pork pie and trilby hats to the ... | rudeheadjoey | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: A human is alive as soon as it has ANY brain activity
I will not argue about abortion because I am not trying to prove any view for or against abortion. I am posting this for people to question my views and find any flaws in my logic.
My logic is that a life starts as soon as there is any sort of brain activity... | Most "braindead" people have brain activity, hence why they retain some basic autonomic functions.
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I did not know this. When I think of brain dead I think that the brain is no longer working and it will never work again. What kind of brain activity occurs?
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I'm no neurologist, but you need brain function fo... | This is a tremendously tortured definition of life.
There are many orders of magnitude more living creatures on the planet wholly lacking nerves of any sort, much less neurons. These are still alive. Why apply a different standard for what fundamentally constitutes life for humans?
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CMV: A human is alive as soon as it has ANY brain activity
I will not argue about abortion because I am not trying to prove any view for or against abortion. I am posting this for people to question my views and find any flaws in my logic.
My logic is that a life starts as soon as there is any sort of brain activity... | Stemonyx is making “mini-brains” on plates, about 10000 neurons and astrocytes that do develop spontaneous electrical activity and can have seizures. Are they life?
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Where did they get the DNA/cells for this brain from? What constitutes living for this organism that is just a brain? A single brain is different fro... | Most "braindead" people have brain activity, hence why they retain some basic autonomic functions.
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I did not know this. When I think of brain dead I think that the brain is no longer working and it will never work again. What kind of brain activity occurs?
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If you define brain as neural cluster you have the... | b2x5q4 | CMV: A human is alive as soon as it has ANY brain activity | I will not argue about abortion because I am not trying to prove any view for or against abortion. I am posting this for people to question my views and find any flaws in my logic.
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CMV: not wanting your girl to have male friends is not controlling or insecure
Hi there.
I don't want my gf to have male friends. She is totally fine with that.
I often hear from other people that this is insecure and controlling behavior from me.
I disagree, for the following reasons:
Any healthy relationship has ... | A healthy relationship has healthy boundaries. You can just equivocate all requests as if they are all equal.
Would you feel the same if a couple's boundary was no friends outside the relationship? How about if they can't talk to any of their familiy anymore?
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Yeah, I would feel the same.
I would not want thse b... | A couple questions.
Why do you draw the line at "Have male friends"?
Do you have any female friends?
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Gonna start with the last question: no, I don't.
I don't think it's inherently wrong for me to have female friends (or my girl having male friends). My partner has also not told me they are not okay with me ... | 1mmc13b | CMV: not wanting your girl to have male friends is not controlling or insecure | Hi there.
I don't want my gf to have male friends. She is totally fine with that.
I often hear from other people that this is insecure and controlling behavior from me.
I disagree, for the following reasons:
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CMV: the tv series "the wire" champions conservative ideals
fyi: some spoilers within (tho for a show that is more than a decade old)
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if you're a fan of the hbo series, the wire, at first glance you may think it is show that illustrates more neutral to liberal ideas. many ppl will point out the failures of ... | In some ways, the main villain of the show is capitalism. That alone precludes it from being anything but anathema to modern American "conservative" politics.
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*i bleed red, you bleed green*
i think the show treats capitalism as a positive and negative, but immovable, force. as in, there's capitalism will always ... | I think the genius of the wire is that people of all political tribes - liberals, socialists, conservatives, libertarians etc - can watch the show and find something they feel reflects (or validates) their views.
Perhaps this is because, at its heart, the Wire is a show about individuals and self-interest, *framed* a... | q3xkm4 | CMV: the tv series "the wire" champions conservative ideals | fyi: some spoilers within (tho for a show that is more than a decade old)
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if you're a fan of the hbo series, the wire, at first glance you may think it is show that illustrates more neutral to liberal ideas. many ppl will point out the failures of the police or how some working within the drug world are lion... | PM_me_ur_datascience | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Homeschooling shouldn't be legal in the United States
It's legal in the U.S., but my spouse comes from a country where homeschooling is not legal and I feel like that makes so much more sense. My own experience may bias me but a grew up in a part of the country with a HUGE amount of people who were homeschooled f... | Some parents homeschool their children because the bullying problem is so bad and their children are so targeted, and the public school they are in will not do anything about it. In these cases, I think it is entirely justifiable to homeschool your child to get them away from a situation that is detrimental to their up... | > feel like there is something to be said for a shared set of values, ideas, exposure to other ideas, and place to learn all of them.
You think the State should have more ownership of children and their development than their parents in 100% of all cases?
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I guess the difference for me is that I don't think of ... | b2ybul | CMV: Homeschooling shouldn't be legal in the United States | It's legal in the U.S., but my spouse comes from a country where homeschooling is not legal and I feel like that makes so much more sense. My own experience may bias me but a grew up in a part of the country with a HUGE amount of people who were homeschooled for religious reasons (a lot of hardcore evangelicals and Pen... | ArtichokeOwl | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Elon’s new CyberTruck is awesome and a bold move toward breaking traditional design molds
In a world full of generic and antiquated design, I think that bold explorations into alternative forms is something rarely celebrated, but should be.
Is the new Tesla truck ugly? That depends on perspective. But regardles... | Product designer here. It’s garbage dude.
Have you ever been to r/oldschoolcool? Notice how some “old styles” are trendy but look like garbage today, and some are classic and look old school but cool? Ever wonder what the difference is?
Look. I’m gonna go our on a limb here and say you aren’t a designer. And yes, ae... | It does no good to produce a car that have no market viability if you want the industry to change course.
It’s not like he’s the first to make different looking cars. It happened frequently in the 80s and 90s
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Market viability is sorta relative here though, right? We’ve already seen a couple other Tesla truck de... | e0ktha | CMV: Elon’s new CyberTruck is awesome and a bold move toward breaking traditional design molds | In a world full of generic and antiquated design, I think that bold explorations into alternative forms is something rarely celebrated, but should be.
Is the new Tesla truck ugly? That depends on perspective. But regardless of whether it’s appealing to someone or another, one thing is clear: it’s *different*. Differe... | Cosmohumanist | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Police should be called when there is bullying/ signs of bullying in school.
i feel teachers and other people at the school they are busy with teaching or they might not know how to deal with bully situation, or when they do say something ,it is often too gentle.
say i am a bully and i am not nice to others, an... | So call the police to wag their finger? Because that's all the police could do. Literally nothing else, unless the bullying moves into actual criminal levels. The police couldn't even make the child stay and listen to them.
Also:
>so just call a police, get the professional to deal.
Where are you that police are tra... | Bullying is not illegal. Police can not do anything more than school personnel until a crime has been committed.
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some action of bully might not be illegal, but what about someone get beat? if this is not illgel, this should made to be.
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Well someone gets beat that is now a crime of assault and battery. Now t... | q3q8vf | CMV: Police should be called when there is bullying/ signs of bullying in school. | i feel teachers and other people at the school they are busy with teaching or they might not know how to deal with bully situation, or when they do say something ,it is often too gentle.
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CMV: Pro-lifers are morally obliged to actively target men/encourage male contraception.
I'm willing to concede that societal acceptance of abortion, especially late term abortions are a moral greyzone. While I'm not sure there's anything inherently wrong with quickly terminating the life of a non-viable fetus, I don'... | The simplest answer is that "moral obligations" are a pretty subjective thing, being entirely reliant on the moral principles a person holds as true. It's entirely possible for "opposing abortion" to not have some conditional obligation in plenty of moral systems, in the same way that generally opposing murder doesn't ... | Because being pro life isn't about caring about the defenceless sentiment being. It's about controlling women.
Why would you try to place the responsibility on men when you can blame and control women?
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CMV: It is a violation of basic human rights to send kids to school
Premise 1: There's some basic intuition we have about a human right (e.g. Article 3 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights) of not being under threat of death, or more generally, of having security about you body and your immediate goods.
... | But the low change of aggression is outweighed by the benefits an educated populace can provide. [Education also reduces crime](https://voxeu.org/article/why-education-reduces-crime). So, it makes sense that aggression rates are higher while people are still getting educated compared to after they have had a proper edu... | [deleted]
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Ah, finally someone actually touching my argument, took a long while :p
It is very late and I don't have time to look at the statistics and formulate a rebuttal (if I can) but preemptive !delta, because I am indeed going on the assumption that the "outside world" a kid would interact with is different ... | g8zs5g | CMV: It is a violation of basic human rights to send kids to school | Premise 1: There's some basic intuition we have about a human right (e.g. Article 3 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights) of not being under threat of death, or more generally, of having security about you body and your immediate goods.
That is not to say this right can be universally applied, but I beli... | elcric_krej | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Your ex is not your property, it’s perfectly fine for your best friend/friend to date them if they develop feelings for them
**Edit: I haven’t responded to all the comments but there are a few that truly made my re-evaluate my view! Thanks to everyone for their inputs! I replied with a !delta to explanations that... | I think it's more about the relationship you have with me rather than me owning the person I used to date. If somebody broke my heart I wouldn't want you to be bringing that person around me.
Also I think I would feel a little weird if I had told things in confidence while I was dating this person. Again it would jus... | > I find that strange because you’re treating someone you used to date as your property.
You're not necessarily treating them as your property. You're just acknowledging that you have feelings for this person and you would be hurt if a close friend dated them.
> I get why it would be awkward to hang out with your fr... | g95ja8 | CMV: Your ex is not your property, it’s perfectly fine for your best friend/friend to date them if they develop feelings for them | **Edit: I haven’t responded to all the comments but there are a few that truly made my re-evaluate my view! Thanks to everyone for their inputs! I replied with a !delta to explanations that made me change my view. Original post below the cut:**
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I see this everywhere in real life and in movies. For some reas... | Putsomesunglasseson | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: "Dry Promotions" are a bullshit corporate scheme to trick workers into talking on more responsibility without paying them more.
So I start a new job in two weeks. The job is a step up the corporate ladder both by the company's definitions and by the increase in responsibility. So I foolishly expected a pay raise ... | Dry promotions are sometimes a test to see if you can handle the new position without the issue of filling out paperwork to raise pay, and then lower pay later. At my last job, they gave us a 2 month test to see if we could move up and not fuck anything up
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∆ Honestly I think you're right. I will talk to my new manager when I start and express my dissatisfaction and discuss what I can do to ensure I get a raise in the near future. Idk if I consider the thread redundant because really I posted it looking for some reassurance or relief. It's hard for me to e... | b2vzn4 | CMV: "Dry Promotions" are a bullshit corporate scheme to trick workers into talking on more responsibility without paying them more. | So I start a new job in two weeks. The job is a step up the corporate ladder both by the company's definitions and by the increase in responsibility. So I foolishly expected a pay raise with it. When the recruiter offered me the job and told me it would be a so called dry promotion, I was clearly disappointed but she w... | beast6106 | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: American interest in the Middle East is entirely made up.
I have yet to hear a convincing argument detailing why the United States need to be in the Middle East. The United States have troops in Yemen, Syria, and other nations. It occupies and attacks people for reasons that I cannot find. Most people argue that ... | >using these countries to fight proxy wars (to avoid direct war with Russia). I don't have a whole lot of evidence to my viewpoint.
Is this not in American interest? This doesnt seem made up.
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I mean I'd rather not be in conflict with a nuclear power. Seems like it would be in America's best interest to stay... | Oil. From a strategic perspective the U.S., and it's massive energy corporations, need to control the world's supply of oil and that means a military presence in the middle east. Fighting terrorism and spreading democracy are lies intended to obscure the true economics behind it. Citizens won't be likely to send their ... | 17j94os | CMV: American interest in the Middle East is entirely made up. | I have yet to hear a convincing argument detailing why the United States need to be in the Middle East. The United States have troops in Yemen, Syria, and other nations. It occupies and attacks people for reasons that I cannot find. Most people argue that it's because of terrorism and spreading democracy.
As far as I'... | frogtapp | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Most routine health care visits could be managed by a technician instead of a doctor
There is a huge concern about health care cost and access in the US, but every time I go to the dentist, I have to have at least a visit with the actual dentist who tells me 'we'll keep an eye on [the same thing for 3 years] and ... | The reason a doctor checks you out is liability. In these parts at least, a nurse does 90% of the visit and the actual doctor comes in, looks at the nurse's work, looks at you, checks anything they're concerned about, and leaves. In and out, 5 minute adventure. Its because generally, if the nurse misses something and y... | I've had too many physician assistants miss important markers. One mistook a carpal boss for a ganglion cyst. The cysts don't show up on x-rays, but carpal bosses look like massive fractures. It confused the radiologist because the PA didn't report the carpal boss.
Another time I went in to an urgent care for a low gr... | g91shm | CMV: Most routine health care visits could be managed by a technician instead of a doctor | There is a huge concern about health care cost and access in the US, but every time I go to the dentist, I have to have at least a visit with the actual dentist who tells me 'we'll keep an eye on [the same thing for 3 years] and keep flossing and brushing'. When I get my (not complicated) eyeglass prescription 'updated... | looking4awayin | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The term Zionist is used a weapon against Jews and has big antisemitic undertones
**I'll start with the view and then explain:**Using the term Zionist is a often a dogwhistle attack at Jews and is incredibly antisemitic, some use it legitimately, but because of the difficulty in distinguishing the two and the acc... | But Zionism is still a real ideology that exists and needs to be talked about. What are we supposed to say, then, if the word Zionism is so hurtful and potentially racist? Like honestly asking here. "Pro-Israeli" has similar issues because there's lots of different ways to be in favor of Israel
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Well, first off - ... | I don't think the "racist" people think it's ethnic cleansing. Rather they think the building of the country for a race/religion or whatever doesn't promote equality.
Of course, coincidentally they themselves are racist.
So you're right and wrong at the same time.
Being racist and not racist isn't mutually exclus... | 17jbf66 | CMV: The term Zionist is used a weapon against Jews and has big antisemitic undertones | **I'll start with the view and then explain:**Using the term Zionist is a often a dogwhistle attack at Jews and is incredibly antisemitic, some use it legitimately, but because of the difficulty in distinguishing the two and the accusatory nature of use by almost all people - it should be seen as antisemitic and remove... | AxlLight | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The US Invasion of Afghanistan was *not* imperialism and shouldn’t be remembered as such on the Left. Instead the responsibility for the invasion lies with the Taliban, who refused to surrender Osama Bin Laden when the US requested him.
3k Americans die in one day and you expected the United States to what? Do no... | The imperialism part is the US asking Taliban to give up Osama bin Laden and invading when they refused. Thats kinda an imperialist thing to do
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If you’ve the power, pursuing the butchers responsible for thousands of your peoples deaths one of justice, *not imperialism*. We had the power and so we did it. Same as ... | Can you support the claim that it even is remembered as such currently by leftist academics? I am not familiar with it
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This is paper published just this year
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/19427786251355044
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0163443705055734
And from 20 years prior.
--... | 1mm3kcy | CMV: The US Invasion of Afghanistan was *not* imperialism and shouldn’t be remembered as such on the Left. Instead the responsibility for the invasion lies with the Taliban, who refused to surrender Osama Bin Laden when the US requested him. | 3k Americans die in one day and you expected the United States to what? Do nothing?
(Note: By left I don’t mean state and congressional democrats. Most of them voted for the war or supported it. I mean your academics. You can quibble whether they matter or not but they’re the ones that will shape popular opinion on t... | soozerain | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Conventional "Waitress Test" is Inadequate For Spotting Bad Relationship Material
If you don't know, the Waitress Test for date says that how your date treats a restaurant server (or other low-paid staff) is how he or she will treat you six months from now. Naturally this also applies to people in the usual ... | You're attributing a level of sophistication to the test that it was never supposed to have.
Sure, it might be more accurate to observe how a potential romantic partner interacts with a wide variety of different types of people - but there is no practical way to feasibily do that quickly. You can make those observatio... | I fail to see how the Waitress Test has anything to do with economics.
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Personal income does a lot to influence status, and waitresses are generally a low paid, low status position. It's not unheard of for restaurant clientel to treat servers in fairly disparaging ways (as in insisting on more than just a reasona... | e03siw | CMV: The Conventional "Waitress Test" is Inadequate For Spotting Bad Relationship Material | If you don't know, the Waitress Test for date says that how your date treats a restaurant server (or other low-paid staff) is how he or she will treat you six months from now. Naturally this also applies to people in the usual diversity categories we all know about, too.
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CMV: Using AI even if it's for assistance is considered as a Sin in the Creative Community
Many creative communities have begun banning the usage of AI and many creative minds are known to dislike AI because it's taking their work and credibility. I was neutral to this Creative vs AI (most notably Artist and Writers v... | Is there a substantive difference between a 'sin' and a 'thing you shouldn't do'?
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A sin is a forbidden thing which should be frowned upon. I've been to r/artisthate and r/fuckAI and they tried AI like it's a Cardinal Sin.
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So is your view any different from something like "society considers not brushing your... | what medium we talkin? auto tune has been around for decades. People use drum machines all the time. i don't hear much fuss about that
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Atleast Autotune and Drum machines still require human operation and more than just typing it in.
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u said in your title, "even if it's for assistance"
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I want to get ri... | 1fotlml | CMV: Using AI even if it's for assistance is considered as a Sin in the Creative Community | Many creative communities have begun banning the usage of AI and many creative minds are known to dislike AI because it's taking their work and credibility. I was neutral to this Creative vs AI (most notably Artist and Writers vs AI) until I ended up quitting AI for good and took the side of the Creatives.
But now I'm... | Electromad6326 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: No one should use the "n" word in modern day life
This post is more about black people using the n-word since it is already viewed as unacceptable for white people or other races to use it and it would be extremely difficult to change my view that white people should be able to use the word.
So my basic reasoni... | >I know one of the main arguments for its use is to take the power away from the word and give it to the people it was originally targeting. While I can see the logic in this, I don't think it has worked. The word is just as harsh as it has always been.
It hasn't *finished* working, but it IS working.
The fact that b... | > The word is just as harsh as it has always been
You note that it is just as harsh coming from white people, but you neglect to address black people saying it to other black people. Do you think that it is "just as harsh as it has always been" in this context?
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That's difficult for me to say. don't know if in... | 78o3dj | CMV: No one should use the "n" word in modern day life | This post is more about black people using the n-word since it is already viewed as unacceptable for white people or other races to use it and it would be extremely difficult to change my view that white people should be able to use the word.
So my basic reasoning is that the word has a long history of hatred and use... | random5924 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It should be illegal for politicians to have a net worth beyond the national median for the rest of their lives
This is my solution to the problem of political corruption. It should be illegal for any politician to have a net worth greater than an ordinary citizen at any point for the rest of their life, even aft... | That would encourage corruption. If politicians aren’t payed satisfactorily they are more likely to accept money from more “unofficial” sources.
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All politicians should agree to undergo surveillance while and after they are in office to ensure that no bribes from unofficial sources are collected.
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If the surv... | Couldn't this also discourage capable people of wanting to enter politics?
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There are enough people who are both capable and willing to sacrifice riches. Governments shouldn’t take the risk of allowing rich politicians to exist.
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>There are enough people who are both capable and willing to sacrifice riches
I... | b2onoz | CMV: It should be illegal for politicians to have a net worth beyond the national median for the rest of their lives | This is my solution to the problem of political corruption. It should be illegal for any politician to have a net worth greater than an ordinary citizen at any point for the rest of their life, even after they leave office. Politics should only be pursued by people who are willing to sacrifice the allure of riches for ... | CircleReversed | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: From an amoral, purely utilitarian point of view, the best thing for the global West/global North's maintenance of standard of living and the planet's environment would be to use military force to cripple the global South's, especially China's and India's, growing economies
Title note: It has been pointed out tha... | Assuming theyll just sit there and take it, i still dont think your view makes sense. Per capita emissions are higher in many developed countries. If youre gonna kill people, might as well kill people in another developed country (unless your view is that all the developed countries are monolithic inherently).
Also, c... | Why not just institute legislation globally to stop emmissions? It's tough, but way less tough than a world war III.
Also, you misunderstand Utilitarianism. It *is* an ethical mindset. The most good for the most people. Crippling other countries for the sake of your own is definitionally not utilitarian.
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> Why n... | bxlca6 | CMV: From an amoral, purely utilitarian point of view, the best thing for the global West/global North's maintenance of standard of living and the planet's environment would be to use military force to cripple the global South's, especially China's and India's, growing economies | Title note: It has been pointed out that "utilitarian" is misused in the title and body of the post. As titles cannot be edited, please note that "selfish" is a word more in line with my intended meaning.
At present, the fact that the environment is at a critical point, near a point of no return, is apparent and unden... | SpacemanSkiff | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There's nothing wrong with not liking animals.
The internet in general and Reddit in particular seem oddly fixated on animals (at least ones deemed "cute" like dogs and cats). People can get hundreds up upvotes making holocaust jokes or wisecracks about child molestation, but I have never seen anything about stom... | > People can get hundreds up upvotes making holocaust jokes or wisecracks about child molestation, but I have never seen anything about stomping a cat upvoted.
This is very strange in this context because you don't make jokes about the holocaust or child molestation because you dislike children (and if you are then th... | You have no empathy for a living creature if they are not human. I'm not a psychologist but I'm sure there is a name for this.
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Considering 99% of people eat meat, I'm going to go with "normal person".
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People who eat meat didn't kill anything. If a person directly kills an animal without feeling they are not... | dzzdmx | CMV: There's nothing wrong with not liking animals. | The internet in general and Reddit in particular seem oddly fixated on animals (at least ones deemed "cute" like dogs and cats). People can get hundreds up upvotes making holocaust jokes or wisecracks about child molestation, but I have never seen anything about stomping a cat upvoted.
This all seems odd to me, as so... | Sgt_Spatula | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There's nothing wrong with not liking animals.
The internet in general and Reddit in particular seem oddly fixated on animals (at least ones deemed "cute" like dogs and cats). People can get hundreds up upvotes making holocaust jokes or wisecracks about child molestation, but I have never seen anything about stom... | \> I will be glad to feed her etc. She is a living thing, and of course my roommate would be sad if anything happened to her. I would not be sad for the cat, I would feel empathy for my flatmate however.
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you wouldn't feel bad if you watched an animal starve to death in front of... | It isn't wrong, but it is pretty uncommon. One of our deepest instincts is to pack bond, and we do it with all kinds of things. Our ability to just kind of decide that a thing in our lives is in the set of \[us\] is one of the things that made us so evolutionarily able, and also is a thing that gives a lot of people me... | dzzdmx | CMV: There's nothing wrong with not liking animals. | The internet in general and Reddit in particular seem oddly fixated on animals (at least ones deemed "cute" like dogs and cats). People can get hundreds up upvotes making holocaust jokes or wisecracks about child molestation, but I have never seen anything about stomping a cat upvoted.
This all seems odd to me, as so... | Sgt_Spatula | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Smart watches are unnecessary
Smart Phones do everything a smart watch does- notifications, calls, time, weather etc. its just duplicating the functions. I don't like redundant technology. If I don't need my phone ever, then a smart watch would make sense to me. But the screen is too small, so that won't work eit... | The heart rate monitors are accurate, though. And even better or more importantly, they are consistent and thus fit for purpose when gauging trends, which is how you measure your workout progress (if you’re interested in tracking it anyway).
Interestingly, I find this aspect to be the only respect in which smartwatch... | Define “necessary” please - for a lot of people a smartphone is not technically needed for survival.
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Sure, I mean, a smart phone is necessary for me for everything it does. I don't need a smart watch in addition to it.
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So is your argument that is no legitimate use for them for any user, or that you specific... | 1foutrm | CMV: Smart watches are unnecessary | Smart Phones do everything a smart watch does- notifications, calls, time, weather etc. its just duplicating the functions. I don't like redundant technology. If I don't need my phone ever, then a smart watch would make sense to me. But the screen is too small, so that won't work either.
Charging them daily is the wo... | LikedIt666 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Extreme Zionists are some of the most frightening, rabid fanatics since the Nazis.
I DO NOT MEAN JEWS WHEN I SAY THIS OR ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IN ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST I MEAN EXTREME ZIONISTS!!!
This is a tough topic to discuss. I think Zionists are frightening. I go to UCLA where there is a significant Jewish p... | Back in the 1990s Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright tried to negotiate peace, the proposal was one where the Palestinians got something like 95% of what they were asking for, Yassar Arafat and his PLO responded with the Intifada.
Again back in the 2000s another Israeli government offer a deal close to the 1967 bord... | If you think Israel should get on its knees and wait for the next attack after Oct 7. You are needing more education.
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Here is the issue with how some people are approaching this debate: criticizing the Israel government and extremism is not the same thing as saying Israel should do nothing.
This is clearly not ... | 17it4ui | CMV: Extreme Zionists are some of the most frightening, rabid fanatics since the Nazis. | I DO NOT MEAN JEWS WHEN I SAY THIS OR ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IN ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST I MEAN EXTREME ZIONISTS!!!
This is a tough topic to discuss. I think Zionists are frightening. I go to UCLA where there is a significant Jewish population and have found myself getting in frequent debates over Isreali-Palestinian rela... | RealFee1405 | 5 | 5 | [
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