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CMV: Music and art are not strictly subjective
To say that anything is strictly subjective is false for 3 essential reasons:
-It effectively shuts down conversation
-It denies any deep nuance of the subject
-It is a self-refuting paradox
Take music for example. On point 1, If someone asserts that music, or ... | Okay. Of art. If I take two markers and scribble on a piece of paper. Is that art?
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It can be. This isn’t about what is or isn’t art. It’s the idea that art comprises both subjectivity and objectivity. If I throw some random notes together and record them and put it on a CD, it’s objectively a song. Just like if I... | A trained musician can identify what they think sounds good or bad based on their training. So it’s objective if you add another layer which is rules people agree to
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That is in fact the case though.
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Sure… so if i train a musician to prefer bad music then they would think it’s objectively good? Which makes t... | 193p0o8 | CMV: Music and art are not strictly subjective | To say that anything is strictly subjective is false for 3 essential reasons:
-It effectively shuts down conversation
-It denies any deep nuance of the subject
-It is a self-refuting paradox
Take music for example. On point 1, If someone asserts that music, or an opinion about music, is subjective, they may ... | Ripturd | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Republican party has lost its ideological stance and just reduced itself to bashing of the left.
It is pretty much evident now that the GOP has completely lost its ideological stance and just reduced itself to negate what the democratic party does. I will mention a few examples here:
1) Abortion: They are he... | Your first two points are literally just "I disagree so therefore they are wrong".
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I do not disagree, I have given a completely sound logical reasoning of why they are blatantly wrong. If you have counter argument, I am all ears.
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Is there really a worthwhile counter to things like "I think pro-life is not a... | If you can't tell the substantive difference between a fetus and a clump of cancer cells (one is/will become human, the other is cancer) then perhaps arguing with you is pointless, but here goes nothing.
First point: no American political party has ever been totally ideologically united. The closest might be when Ging... | sj3a5t | CMV: The Republican party has lost its ideological stance and just reduced itself to bashing of the left. | It is pretty much evident now that the GOP has completely lost its ideological stance and just reduced itself to negate what the democratic party does. I will mention a few examples here:
1) Abortion: They are hell bent on banning abortion, for which they do not have any argument. I think pro-life is not a stance. Foe... | Master-namer- | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: The issues BLM highlights are about poverty not race.
My interpretation of the high African-American crime rate and therefore high incarceration rate in the United States has always been that it is a poverty thing. Poverty tends to be a vicious cycle, where once you are in, it is a tough time getting out, especia... | You seem to be pointing out that:
* Black people are more likely to live in poverty.
* Black people are more likely to live in overpoliced urban areas due to poverty and a history of racism.
* Black people are more likely to need to turn to organized crime due to the above factors.
* Black incarceration rates are not ... | I think the question you have to ask yourself is why are minority races like African Americans more likely to deal with poverty? If there was true race equality, it shouldn't be any harder for them to find a high paying job as it is for whites.
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I need to see evidence on that a qualified black person has a harder ... | hf5py9 | CMV: The issues BLM highlights are about poverty not race. | My interpretation of the high African-American crime rate and therefore high incarceration rate in the United States has always been that it is a poverty thing. Poverty tends to be a vicious cycle, where once you are in, it is a tough time getting out, especially if you are born into it. When Black Lives Matter started... | 12staunton1 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The issues BLM highlights are about poverty not race.
My interpretation of the high African-American crime rate and therefore high incarceration rate in the United States has always been that it is a poverty thing. Poverty tends to be a vicious cycle, where once you are in, it is a tough time getting out, especia... | You seem to be pointing out that:
* Black people are more likely to live in poverty.
* Black people are more likely to live in overpoliced urban areas due to poverty and a history of racism.
* Black people are more likely to need to turn to organized crime due to the above factors.
* Black incarceration rates are not ... | Now explain the murder and violent crime rates and stats. Why don't poor whites kill at a similar rate to poor black males??
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Because Whites who are in poverty are more likely to be living in the country where they don't join organised crime. Most such homicides are a result of gang violence, which if you are not ... | hf5py9 | CMV: The issues BLM highlights are about poverty not race. | My interpretation of the high African-American crime rate and therefore high incarceration rate in the United States has always been that it is a poverty thing. Poverty tends to be a vicious cycle, where once you are in, it is a tough time getting out, especially if you are born into it. When Black Lives Matter started... | 12staunton1 | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: The default world lingua franca should be Spanish
I think that for the average citizen of the world, Spanish is the easiest language to learn as a second language. For that reason, we should slowly transition to it being our default world language (in much the same way that English is in many situations).
Some o... | How about Esperanto?
It was created with 3 goals in mind:
To render the study of the language so easy as to make its acquisition mere play to the learner.
To enable the learner to make direct use of his knowledge with people of any nationality, whether the language be universally accepted or not; in other words, the... | [deleted]
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It's not realistic. There are also so many dialects that many arabic speakers can't understand each other easily. It takes many years of practice and memorization (due to inconsistent conjugation, etc) to be able to use it on a basic level.
Some are able to learn it proficiently, but it would need ... | hf49v5 | CMV: The default world lingua franca should be Spanish | I think that for the average citizen of the world, Spanish is the easiest language to learn as a second language. For that reason, we should slowly transition to it being our default world language (in much the same way that English is in many situations).
Some of the reasons I think it's relatively easy to learn:
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CMV: There's nothing wrong with saying some people shouldn't be parents
Either it's ok to say anyone should or should be parents, or it isn't.
You can disagree with what counts as 'bad' parents, but if you accept the statement, 'if you have a long history of being a serial killer, you would make a shit parent'.
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And yeah, i mentioned. Being poor isnt i herent. What is wrong with 'denying them a child at present'? Fix up your shit then go plan for it.
I don't see why child care can't be expensive. Its expensive because child care workers gotta paid too. I just don't see why that a problems. And the poor peopl... | Plenty of poor people can raise a child to be healthy and secure. People have been doing it for all of humanity.
More to the point, if people were only allowed to raise children 'healthy and secure' then humanity would have died out a long time ago because the vast majority of human history was filled with disease and... | sivnn9 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with saying some people shouldn't be parents | Either it's ok to say anyone should or should be parents, or it isn't.
You can disagree with what counts as 'bad' parents, but if you accept the statement, 'if you have a long history of being a serial killer, you would make a shit parent'.
Now, to get to my point. The statement 'poor people shouldn't be parents' ... | WaterDemonPhoenix | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There's nothing wrong with saying some people shouldn't be parents
Either it's ok to say anyone should or should be parents, or it isn't.
You can disagree with what counts as 'bad' parents, but if you accept the statement, 'if you have a long history of being a serial killer, you would make a shit parent'.
N... | Plenty of poor people can raise a child to be healthy and secure. People have been doing it for all of humanity.
More to the point, if people were only allowed to raise children 'healthy and secure' then humanity would have died out a long time ago because the vast majority of human history was filled with disease and... | >The asymmetry is weird. We can say that being an alcoholic while pregnant isn't ideal. Planning to get pregnant without even trying to quit first is not good behaviour. So why is it that saying 'abstain until you get your finances in order' is bad?
The issue is that this type of language casts poverty as a moral fai... | sivnn9 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with saying some people shouldn't be parents | Either it's ok to say anyone should or should be parents, or it isn't.
You can disagree with what counts as 'bad' parents, but if you accept the statement, 'if you have a long history of being a serial killer, you would make a shit parent'.
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CMV: Free Zones Are a Good Idea (Explanation in Text)
This is a shower thought of mine. I like to think of ways to balance the social contract with liberty, because the social contract has many benefits but I still feel extremely unfree thinking that I could actually go to jail for consuming a drug in the privacy of m... | On paper, I'd probably agree and say it's a good idea. But it just isn't practical.
Screening on exit wouldn't be enough. No security in the world would be good enough to prevent zero spillage of the redzone to the outside world. It would be an inevitability that this would eventually happen. Most criminals/terrorist... | > like if people wanted to live in the red zone and raise a family there, could society contain or even accept the danger of children not being vaccinated
I don't think this is anywhere close to the worst thing that will happen to kids in your red zone.
What you're describing would quickly come to look like the wors... | 6puytw | CMV: Free Zones Are a Good Idea (Explanation in Text) | This is a shower thought of mine. I like to think of ways to balance the social contract with liberty, because the social contract has many benefits but I still feel extremely unfree thinking that I could actually go to jail for consuming a drug in the privacy of my own home. How to fix that? For those of you who have ... | xyanon36 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points
I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specific... | The problem with most vocal Men's Groups nowadays is that they just hate feminism or women in general. I'm specifically thinking of Red Pillers, MGTOWs and some MRAs.
It's like they spend more time trying to get rid of women's rights rather than fighting for men's rights. And they just hate anything feminists say, ev... | You might be mistaking Men's Rights groups for Men's Liberation groups, such as /r/menslib who actually DO advocate for equality of the sexes the same way feminism does (because Mens lib is a branch of feminism!) but for men specifically.
Men's Rights groups are rather hateful and misogynistic in nature.
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Men's l... | dz0jzd | CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points | I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specifically I'm talking about child circumcision, not el... | Sarinon | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points
I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specific... | The problem with most vocal Men's Groups nowadays is that they just hate feminism or women in general. I'm specifically thinking of Red Pillers, MGTOWs and some MRAs.
It's like they spend more time trying to get rid of women's rights rather than fighting for men's rights. And they just hate anything feminists say, ev... | You might be mistaking Men's Rights groups for Men's Liberation groups, such as /r/menslib who actually DO advocate for equality of the sexes the same way feminism does (because Mens lib is a branch of feminism!) but for men specifically.
Men's Rights groups are rather hateful and misogynistic in nature.
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Thanks!... | dz0jzd | CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points | I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specifically I'm talking about child circumcision, not el... | Sarinon | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points
I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specific... | The problem with most vocal Men's Groups nowadays is that they just hate feminism or women in general. I'm specifically thinking of Red Pillers, MGTOWs and some MRAs.
It's like they spend more time trying to get rid of women's rights rather than fighting for men's rights. And they just hate anything feminists say, ev... | You might be mistaking Men's Rights groups for Men's Liberation groups, such as /r/menslib who actually DO advocate for equality of the sexes the same way feminism does (because Mens lib is a branch of feminism!) but for men specifically.
Men's Rights groups are rather hateful and misogynistic in nature.
---
Men's l... | dz0jzd | CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points | I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specifically I'm talking about child circumcision, not el... | Sarinon | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points
I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specific... | The problem with most vocal Men's Groups nowadays is that they just hate feminism or women in general. I'm specifically thinking of Red Pillers, MGTOWs and some MRAs.
It's like they spend more time trying to get rid of women's rights rather than fighting for men's rights. And they just hate anything feminists say, ev... | You might be mistaking Men's Rights groups for Men's Liberation groups, such as /r/menslib who actually DO advocate for equality of the sexes the same way feminism does (because Mens lib is a branch of feminism!) but for men specifically.
Men's Rights groups are rather hateful and misogynistic in nature.
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Thanks!... | dz0jzd | CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points | I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specifically I'm talking about child circumcision, not el... | Sarinon | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points
I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
Specific... | You might be mistaking Men's Rights groups for Men's Liberation groups, such as /r/menslib who actually DO advocate for equality of the sexes the same way feminism does (because Mens lib is a branch of feminism!) but for men specifically.
Men's Rights groups are rather hateful and misogynistic in nature.
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I agree... | The problem with most vocal Men's Groups nowadays is that they just hate feminism or women in general. I'm specifically thinking of Red Pillers, MGTOWs and some MRAs.
It's like they spend more time trying to get rid of women's rights rather than fighting for men's rights. And they just hate anything feminists say, ev... | dz0jzd | CMV: Men's Rights groups have some valid points | I want to celebrate international men's day (yesterday) by having a healthy discussion about issues facing men and boys globally. So, let's list some of the issues I think need attention.
Declaration of bias: I am a cis female and a feminist.
**Circumcision**
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CMV: Sexuality is blown out of proportion.
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The reason is pretty simple. It's a direct reaction to the portion of our population which says that it *should* matter, namely that gay people are... | dxocbu | CMV: Sexuality is blown out of proportion. | Sexuality has become a heated political and social issue and I have no idea why. In my opinion, it shouldn't matter who or what you fuck. Your sexuality only defines a fraction of daily life, like any other personal trait about you, so why is it that so many make their world revolve around their sexuality? I've seen ch... | Korzaz | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Artists who create shallow animalistic content for a whole decade are insane and if I watch movies, read books written by, or listen to songs composed by such artists then I too will become insane like them
Please note that when I'm talking about movies I'm referring to animalistic movies. For those who haven't s... | >I want you to check out this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er40lu5NJB4 (just skim through it - focus on the kind of animal character that they've portrayed as a hero).
I don't really see what's so absurd about that scene. I can go to a superhero movie and see stunts 10x as absurd, with characters actually ba... | I'm really struggling to see how they cause massive damage with their works to society as a whole. Can you try and expand on these damages? Perhaps some examples are in order of damage caused simply because people watched movies.
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Here are a couple of examples that make me believe that these movies are causing mas... | an21fm | CMV: Artists who create shallow animalistic content for a whole decade are insane and if I watch movies, read books written by, or listen to songs composed by such artists then I too will become insane like them | Please note that when I'm talking about movies I'm referring to animalistic movies. For those who haven't seen such movies, its usually centered around love, bar dances, bar fights, knife fights, sex, gun fights, sex, bar visits, fights and then end.
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CMV: The SC's ruling in Citizens United was the right one, both from the perspective of constitutionality and Liberalism more broadly
While restriction of speech established by the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act was an unconstitutional overreach by the federal government, my focus here is more on the broader arguments... | Basically the Court was just wrong here on the facts, as has become abundantly clear since the decision. A the decision majorly followed the following reasoning:
>we now conclude that independent expenditures, including those made by corporations, do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption...The ap... | If money = political speech to influence votes, why not just cut out the middle man and make money = votes? Sell votes for $100 each. Corporations (aka their leaders) can buy the most votes, as they are the richest and therefore the most entitled to vote.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Democrats spent more money... | 1l5yzmz | CMV: The SC's ruling in Citizens United was the right one, both from the perspective of constitutionality and Liberalism more broadly | While restriction of speech established by the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act was an unconstitutional overreach by the federal government, my focus here is more on the broader arguments presented by the Federal government and the court. The arguments made by the government of the extent their power to restrict speech i... | Speerite | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Luigi Mangione shouldn't be idolized
It's so weird how everyone seems to thirst after him and treat him like some kind hearted superhero. He shot another man point-blank.
Yes, that man was an insurance holder who kept people from live saving items and yes that is awful and he deserved karma. Luigi as a person how... | Post bought and paid for by literal murderers and society-crushing narratives (spoon fed through media and white-washed history).
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I'm not even American dude, I just don't think murder is a solution
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Okay, I honestly think this is the problem. I’ve seen lots of threads and takes from people saying this, and t... | What impulsive decisions, corruption, and chaos has Luigi’s actions led to?
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None for now, which is genuinely good. He just shouldn't be seen as a role model as vigilantism *can* be dangerous.
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So there hasn’t been any harm yet from idolizing him? | 1hkt04t | CMV: Luigi Mangione shouldn't be idolized | It's so weird how everyone seems to thirst after him and treat him like some kind hearted superhero. He shot another man point-blank.
Yes, that man was an insurance holder who kept people from live saving items and yes that is awful and he deserved karma. Luigi as a person however is not to be idolized. What he did was... | Bowsfrill | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The world has turned a ‘blind eye’ to Palestine or what used to be. There will never be a two state solution. Palestinians should just move out.
Please note: I vehemently support any people living together in peace, equality and harmony. If I could create a two state solution overnight with suitable and *responsi... | Surrender is always one way to end a conflict. You seem to value 'solving' the issue more than any rights the Palestinians possess. So besides the issue on the moral level, there's a practical problem with your proposal, specifically with this piece:
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"There should be an option for any Palestinian who wants... | Nobody is "moving out". Not Jews and not Arabs. This, simply, won't happen, unless a brutal force is used to that.
In Israel, 20% of the population are Israeli-Arabs, the luckiest Arabs in the whole world, the only ones enjoying democracy, freedom, freedom of religion, human rights, equal rights, liberty, etc, etc.
T... | amk3kq | CMV: The world has turned a ‘blind eye’ to Palestine or what used to be. There will never be a two state solution. Palestinians should just move out. | Please note: I vehemently support any people living together in peace, equality and harmony. If I could create a two state solution overnight with suitable and *responsible* people in charge then I most certainly would.
I feel quite strongly about world injustices but even more so in the face of hypocrisy from a stat... | stolencheesecake | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: An important plot point in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 doesn’t make sense.
A quick review. Peter’s father Ego is a Celestial, a god like being that has existed for essentially an unfathomably long time compared to the average human lifespan. His goal was to terraform thousands of worlds into new extensions of himse... | I took it to mean that he liked her too much and that she would have ultimately pulled him away from his plan. Like that he saw himself slipping into prioritizing their relationship over his ultimate plan which could have sabotaged his plan.
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I still find it unlikely that what is essentially an eternal being could... | What if one of his hundreds of other children manifested their powers while he was off with Peter's mother? He doesn't have complete control of the timeline
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Isn't it Yondu's job to find them?
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Yes pre picking up Peter but I find it hard to imagine that Yondu would keep picking them up if Ego wasn't around to... | dz7yx2 | CMV: An important plot point in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 doesn’t make sense. | A quick review. Peter’s father Ego is a Celestial, a god like being that has existed for essentially an unfathomably long time compared to the average human lifespan. His goal was to terraform thousands of worlds into new extensions of himself. In order to do this, he needs to father a child who shares his power, so he... | blackdynomitesnewbag | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't need to get a biyearly teeth cleaning
I feel like it should be easy to change my view because there's information I'm missing.
At my teeth cleaning they give me a really thorough brush and floss, measure if my gums are receding, apply fluoride, examine for cavities and sometimes take an X-ray.
Once a ... | > Once a week I brush my teeth just as thoroughly as the hygienist does,
Like with a sickle scaler? Or something really powerful enough to address plaque that might be building up or you're otherwise systematically missing? Most people simply don't even have the tools to do as thorough of a job.
But sure, if you ha... | >What am I missing?
4 years of Dental school, a variable amount of experience and the ability to directly observe a number of locations in your mouth up close and in detail.
Do you strictly speaking **NEED** to go to the dentist every 6 months? No. But it is a good idea, and as you get older it will become a better a... | g87rej | CMV: I don't need to get a biyearly teeth cleaning | I feel like it should be easy to change my view because there's information I'm missing.
At my teeth cleaning they give me a really thorough brush and floss, measure if my gums are receding, apply fluoride, examine for cavities and sometimes take an X-ray.
Once a week I brush my teeth just as thoroughly as the hygi... | LegitimatePerformer3 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The left could never defeat the right with violence and it is stupid to even try
I see a lot of my leftist friends saying its time to rise up and start taking action against the Trump administration, that the left needs to get out there and start cracking skulls. This is a suicidally bad idea. Why? Guns.
Almost ... | A scenario like the one you are describing where people are somehow sorted by ideology into to two teams where every member is bent on literally murdering every other member has pretty much never happened before and isn't even close to happening in the US. In every civil war there's a large group of people that just wa... | There's no reasonable way to quantify "leftists" and "rightists" in the US today. Saying everyone who owns a gun would stand by Trump is not only just a guess, but also pretty nonsensical
There was never, in the history of the of the independent country, a scenario in which the general population went to arms against ... | 5rh8tz | CMV: The left could never defeat the right with violence and it is stupid to even try | I see a lot of my leftist friends saying its time to rise up and start taking action against the Trump administration, that the left needs to get out there and start cracking skulls. This is a suicidally bad idea. Why? Guns.
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CMV: Using handloaded ammo for self defense should be avoided
Even lower quality factory ammunition goes through a fairly strict quality control process before, during and after it is made to make sure it meets quality standards.
Using hand loaded ammo for hunting or target shooting is different because making sure e... | It depends though. If you're real good at it and you've put thousands of your own rounds down range with no issue, then why not. There's nothing magical about the way a factory puts a bullet in a casing. There's also people who are very in tune with how much powder to put in something to make it do what they want. When... | You shouldn't be using a gun for self defense. Against animals, there's better options and against humans, using a gun for self defense is more likely to get you shot than not having a gun at all.
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I'm curious about what better options you're thinking for defense against animals. What did you have in mind there? | 1bq9dvd | CMV: Using handloaded ammo for self defense should be avoided | Even lower quality factory ammunition goes through a fairly strict quality control process before, during and after it is made to make sure it meets quality standards.
Using hand loaded ammo for hunting or target shooting is different because making sure every bullet you have goes bang isn’t quite as important as when... | DaleGribble2024 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Etiquette, politeness, and manners should not be arbitrary, and if they are, then are faulty indicators of pro/anti sociality.
I understand why any society needs rules of social conduct that are punished with social isolation; it perpetuates the very foundation of society, it's easier to enact than legal rules, i... | Could you give a few examples of 'rules' you would consider to be arbitrary?
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Almost anything where one culture does it one way and another does it another way. I think it was German(?) where you are considered polite if you say "yeah", "really?", "no way" and those kinds of interjections at the same time as anoth... | Can you give me an example of an arbitary rule that you think could cause someone to be ostracized from society? Not an identity group mind you (i.e. eating Pork and Judiasm), but society as a whole.
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No examples, come to mind. Why do you ask?
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if there are no examples to uphold your view, its hard to logical... | 1bq3kep | CMV: Etiquette, politeness, and manners should not be arbitrary, and if they are, then are faulty indicators of pro/anti sociality. | I understand why any society needs rules of social conduct that are punished with social isolation; it perpetuates the very foundation of society, it's easier to enact than legal rules, it generally makes things more pleasant, etc.
What I don't get is why we uphold old rules where the context no longer applies (thus m... | DeleteriousEuphuism | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If gambling is so bad and evil to the point that we recognize it as such, then we should treat cigarettes and alcohol the same.
In recent years I've noticed an uptick of people decrying gambling, saying it's addictive and can destroy families etc, etc, and I agree for the most part. However, really at the end of ... | Your comparison actually highlights why we need MORE regulation on gambling, not less on alcohol. The alcohol industry already has way stricter oversight - specific licenses, age verification, limited hours of sale, marketing restrictions, etc. But with gambling apps, you can lose your life savings at 3am while drunk i... | I don't even understand what the argument is if "the one concession you will make" is that there is a lack of properly enforced regulation of gambling? How can that be your one concession when that is literally the entire issue
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Except that I often hear people wanting to get rid of gambling entirely. That's my iss... | 1hkd6w6 | CMV: If gambling is so bad and evil to the point that we recognize it as such, then we should treat cigarettes and alcohol the same. | In recent years I've noticed an uptick of people decrying gambling, saying it's addictive and can destroy families etc, etc, and I agree for the most part. However, really at the end of the day gambling is no worse than booze.
Yet when I say let's get rid of that poison for all the harm it does, suddenly i'm an assh... | Izzet_Aristocrat | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Disparities that disappear when adjusting for income, location, etc. are not evidence of systemic racism
Recently, I've been exposed to the idea that a race-based disparity in outcome is always evidence of systemic racism. However, it seems to me that if the difference disappears when correcting for income, geogr... | This model requires the idea of socioeconomic mobility. I.E., if your parents are poor, it's still relatively easier for you to, if you make wise choices, make a better life for yourself than they did. And, America just doesn't have as much mobility as the American Dream would lead you to believe. [Here's an article](h... | What you are missing is that just because an explicitly racist policy ends, its effects can remain long after.
Imagine we are racing. And at the beginning of the race someone ran out, tripped you, and gave you a charliehorse. All the while as you are trying to get up and then hobbling as you regain feeling in your le... | infk5e | CMV: Disparities that disappear when adjusting for income, location, etc. are not evidence of systemic racism | Recently, I've been exposed to the idea that a race-based disparity in outcome is always evidence of systemic racism. However, it seems to me that if the difference disappears when correcting for income, geography, etc., then it is merely an example of Simpson's paradox instead.
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CMV: Traffic lights (US) should be placed in front of an intersection and not behind an intersection.
Many road users seem to have an issue with creeping over the stop line and well into the cross walk and even bikeways even if they are not making a right turn (which right turn on red should also not be allowed in any... | What are truck drivers to do? Stop 30-40 feet before their side of the intersection? They need the additional distance _across_ the intersection to have LOS on the signals.
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Many front of intersection countries don't seem to have the issue you describe even for their Lorrys/semis.
All I am saying is move it forwa... | Seems like it would make turning right on red more dangerous because the driver wouldn't have as clear a view of the intersection
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>which right turn on red should also not be allowed in any urban area
Right turn on red leads to increases increase in accidents at intersections with pedestrians get... | 1l56i87 | CMV: Traffic lights (US) should be placed in front of an intersection and not behind an intersection. | Many road users seem to have an issue with creeping over the stop line and well into the cross walk and even bikeways even if they are not making a right turn (which right turn on red should also not be allowed in any urban area).
Because of this traffic lights should be at the [front of an intersection](https://imgur... | JohnWittieless | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I don't think waiters/waitresses deserve to be tipped. I think cooks deserve to be tipped if anyone.
First of all... How to post a Delta. I am new to reddit and i am not even sure what a sidebar is so please help me.
(Disclaimer) When I use the word waiter i am referring to both waiters and waitresses. I just do... | >I understand that waiters money comes from tips but it shouldnt be that way. They should get a wage like everyone else.
Well there's the issue right there, and you completely gloss it over as if it's not a big deal when it's the ENTIRE reason people tip and should tip. Waiters don't earn a lot of money otherwise. I ... | To modify your view on this part:
>CMV: I don't think waiters/waitresses deserve to be tipped. I think cooks deserve to be tipped if anyone.
At many restaurants, waiters/waitresses typically split their tips with support staff.
> I understand that their money comes from tips but it shouldnt be that way. They shoul... | inksqd | CMV: I don't think waiters/waitresses deserve to be tipped. I think cooks deserve to be tipped if anyone. | First of all... How to post a Delta. I am new to reddit and i am not even sure what a sidebar is so please help me.
(Disclaimer) When I use the word waiter i am referring to both waiters and waitresses. I just dont feel like writing both words every time)
I am very open to being convinced that a waiter's job is worth... | WhatsAButterz | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Severity proportionate income and asset specific sentencing is an effective deterrent for rich people trying to use their wealth to buy themselves out of crime
In certain countries such as Germany, they calculate fines based on how much you earn such as speeding fines (it's called a day fine) . Well, what if that... | the problem is that when the punishment is to high other alternatives become cheaper, if a speeding ticket is 1000 then bribing a cop for 800 is objectively a better choice.
the trick is in making it just expensive enough and the risk of the cop not accepting the bribe just high enough that they will pay the fine
-... | If the ultra rich get executed for something as minior as speeding i bet they will do littereally everythig they can to get above the law.
Over all i dont see the advantage of what you propose, i think most agree that the punshment should fit the crime. And minor offenses like speeding doesnt seem to merit major punis... | 14k7yrq | CMV: Severity proportionate income and asset specific sentencing is an effective deterrent for rich people trying to use their wealth to buy themselves out of crime | In certain countries such as Germany, they calculate fines based on how much you earn such as speeding fines (it's called a day fine) . Well, what if that is the basis for an entire system for calculating severity of sentencing for crimes where your personal (either monthly or daily) income and your assets owned calcul... | Cheemingwan1234 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Severity proportionate income and asset specific sentencing is an effective deterrent for rich people trying to use their wealth to buy themselves out of crime
In certain countries such as Germany, they calculate fines based on how much you earn such as speeding fines (it's called a day fine) . Well, what if that... | Do you even hear yourself? Death sentence for speeding? NINE FAMILIAL LIFE IMPRISONMENTS?! Are we in 2023 or not?
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It's meant for the rich people who would buy their way out of minor crimes or use their celebrity/influencer/political status.....to get away with it
So, I proposed that severity of punishment can be... | the problem is that when the punishment is to high other alternatives become cheaper, if a speeding ticket is 1000 then bribing a cop for 800 is objectively a better choice.
the trick is in making it just expensive enough and the risk of the cop not accepting the bribe just high enough that they will pay the fine
-... | 14k7yrq | CMV: Severity proportionate income and asset specific sentencing is an effective deterrent for rich people trying to use their wealth to buy themselves out of crime | In certain countries such as Germany, they calculate fines based on how much you earn such as speeding fines (it's called a day fine) . Well, what if that is the basis for an entire system for calculating severity of sentencing for crimes where your personal (either monthly or daily) income and your assets owned calcul... | Cheemingwan1234 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Severity proportionate income and asset specific sentencing is an effective deterrent for rich people trying to use their wealth to buy themselves out of crime
In certain countries such as Germany, they calculate fines based on how much you earn such as speeding fines (it's called a day fine) . Well, what if that... | the problem is that when the punishment is to high other alternatives become cheaper, if a speeding ticket is 1000 then bribing a cop for 800 is objectively a better choice.
the trick is in making it just expensive enough and the risk of the cop not accepting the bribe just high enough that they will pay the fine
-... | Do you even hear yourself? Death sentence for speeding? NINE FAMILIAL LIFE IMPRISONMENTS?! Are we in 2023 or not?
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It's meant for the rich people who would buy their way out of minor crimes or use their celebrity/influencer/political status.....to get away with it
So, I proposed that severity of punishment can be... | 14k7yrq | CMV: Severity proportionate income and asset specific sentencing is an effective deterrent for rich people trying to use their wealth to buy themselves out of crime | In certain countries such as Germany, they calculate fines based on how much you earn such as speeding fines (it's called a day fine) . Well, what if that is the basis for an entire system for calculating severity of sentencing for crimes where your personal (either monthly or daily) income and your assets owned calcul... | Cheemingwan1234 | 8 | 8 | [
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CMV: Most major label artists don’t write their songs and the songwriting credits they do have are more of a participation trophy then an earned achievement.
There are some exceptions here and there.
Bruno Mars
Lady Gaga
Mariah Carey
Justin Timberlake
Ed Sheeran
Kendrick
Drake
All of these people work with... | Some plain don't write their own songs at all, but there are some who are not necessarily incapable of writing their own songs, but they call in Max Martin, or Ryan Tedder or whoever to polish it up and make sure they have a mega hit.
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Yeah but how much of that mega hit (and by extension their place in the industr... | You are mixing up lyric writing, songwriting, and production and conflating them all.
For most of pop music history there have been popular stars who lyricists, arrangers, composer and musical directors working for them. Nothing about that has really changed. All that happened was that in the 1960s especially it beca... | 1l54k7w | CMV: Most major label artists don’t write their songs and the songwriting credits they do have are more of a participation trophy then an earned achievement. | There are some exceptions here and there.
Bruno Mars
Lady Gaga
Mariah Carey
Justin Timberlake
Ed Sheeran
Kendrick
Drake
All of these people work with collaborators but they’re songwriters too in their own right. People who can craft a hook, create chorus, or belt a melody to float on top of a beat made by s... | soozerain | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: John Wick would be called a mary sue if he was a woman
John Wick has become the face of modern actions. Played by a well known actors and having excellent action scenes, John Wick has established himself among the best action heroes and a recent cultural icon.
John Wick is badass but i can't help but think he i... | While I don't largely disagree with you, I will point out that there have been a number of action movies with female hero leads, that while less successful for various reasons, did NOT, as far as I am aware, fall prey to the classic internet tantrum of criticism. Here's a non-comprehensive list -
Gunpowder Milkshake... | John Wick takes a lot of hits. Like a lot. He can power through but he's clearly taking damage, a Mary Sue would either just avoid all the hits altogether or simply not take damage from them.
Like look at this scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfF_alSj_rs
He's getting hit a lot, he's taking forever to take do... | 1bpxnny | CMV: John Wick would be called a mary sue if he was a woman | John Wick has become the face of modern actions. Played by a well known actors and having excellent action scenes, John Wick has established himself among the best action heroes and a recent cultural icon.
John Wick is badass but i can't help but think he is too perfect. He survives every battle, is respected by ever... | Appropriate_Cash_890 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Transgenderism only reinforces gender stereotypes
Feminism, as a tool for liberating women from gender oppression, shouldn't agree that gender is not necessarily linked to biological sex. Gender is something imposed just because of our individual physical conditions. Although some social performance is always ass... | Gender stereotypes are not the same thing as gender identities. Gender identity is something that seems to be rooted in the brain - There is evidence that it has a biological basis. Gender roles and gender stereotypes are artificial and somewhat arbitrary. And a desire to fit into these stereotypes is not what motivate... | Is this based on actually talking to trans people and asking them what they think?
In general, trans people think, say, they were born with a cock and should have a vagina and breasts. Feminism has no objection to people feeling they like a set of genitals, and regularly celebrates vaginas and breasts.
Some trans pe... | 5rc58f | CMV: Transgenderism only reinforces gender stereotypes | Feminism, as a tool for liberating women from gender oppression, shouldn't agree that gender is not necessarily linked to biological sex. Gender is something imposed just because of our individual physical conditions. Although some social performance is always associated with each gender, what define them is ultimately... | dretriever | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Transgenderism only reinforces gender stereotypes
Feminism, as a tool for liberating women from gender oppression, shouldn't agree that gender is not necessarily linked to biological sex. Gender is something imposed just because of our individual physical conditions. Although some social performance is always ass... | The misunderstanding here is that transgenderism is not even related to gender stereotypes. There are very few people who would spend thousands of dollars on surgery just because of not being traditionally masculine or feminine.
Gender dysphoria is a serious mental and physical condition, that makes people feel uncomf... | Gender stereotypes are not the same thing as gender identities. Gender identity is something that seems to be rooted in the brain - There is evidence that it has a biological basis. Gender roles and gender stereotypes are artificial and somewhat arbitrary. And a desire to fit into these stereotypes is not what motivate... | 5rc58f | CMV: Transgenderism only reinforces gender stereotypes | Feminism, as a tool for liberating women from gender oppression, shouldn't agree that gender is not necessarily linked to biological sex. Gender is something imposed just because of our individual physical conditions. Although some social performance is always associated with each gender, what define them is ultimately... | dretriever | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties...
Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives t... | >Well, then have all laws proposed by representatives be implemented and let individuals choose which laws to follow at which after a time period, the majority of those who follow a certain set of laws will have said set of laws implemented after a census.
This sounds insane, please elaborate.
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I'll explain this ... | Beautiful. This is one of the craziest gambles. You can roll all rich smart business people
You could roll all average joes and janes
Or you could roll all all the homeless under your local underpass who just happen to vote…. Not likely but the chance is still more than 0 percent….
What would happen for an entire... | 14k6jid | CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties... | Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives tend to look out for their own interests and that of their party.
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Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives t... | >Well, then have all laws proposed by representatives be implemented and let individuals choose which laws to follow at which after a time period, the majority of those who follow a certain set of laws will have said set of laws implemented after a census.
This sounds insane, please elaborate.
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I'll explain this ... | Did you know that legislating is in fact difficult? Writing effective laws is not something I trust to a random person.
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Eh, let him or her try it out. You can even write one-liner legislation here......
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Why would I do that when I can just vote for a person who I know would do a better job? | 14k6jid | CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties... | Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives tend to look out for their own interests and that of their party.
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Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives t... | I don't see how this would remotely come close to solving any of the problems you identified. Like, it's much easier to bribe a bunch of randos, so you haven't really solved the problem of "palm greasing", arguably you've just made it very worse because apparently in your system if a corporation wants a special set of ... | Would this still include a single person in command of the armed forces? If so, how will your model prevent this person from starting World War 3 on a whim?
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Split defense apart into even the smallest township including CBRN weapons (this means that there is no centralized armed force with even the smallest town h... | 14k6jid | CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties... | Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives tend to look out for their own interests and that of their party.
Lottery selection (unrestricted, meaning anyone from birth ... | Cheemingwan1234 | 3 | 3 | [
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Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives t... | >Oh and what about those that refuse to serve? Jail or execute them for refusing to represent the population
I love that you refuse to drop this part of your view since the last time you posted this. Guess we just have to execute this comatose sortition electorate; they're clearly refusing to serve!
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You need to ... | This is untenable for a lot of reasons but I’ll list the most blatant.
1. Most Americans don’t know a damn thing about politics. And it wouldn’t just be them passing bad legislation, you’d tell somebody “you’re now the state representative for x district” and they’d have no clue what that means. Even once you got them... | 14k6jid | CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties... | Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives tend to look out for their own interests and that of their party.
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1. Most Americans don’t know a damn thing about politics. And it wouldn’t just be them passing bad legislation, you’d tell somebody “you’re now the state representative for x district” and they’d have no clue what that means. Even once you got them... | Beautiful. This is one of the craziest gambles. You can roll all rich smart business people
You could roll all average joes and janes
Or you could roll all all the homeless under your local underpass who just happen to vote…. Not likely but the chance is still more than 0 percent….
What would happen for an entire... | 14k6jid | CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties... | Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives tend to look out for their own interests and that of their party.
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Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives t... | Did you know that legislating is in fact difficult? Writing effective laws is not something I trust to a random person.
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Eh, let him or her try it out. You can even write one-liner legislation here......
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Try defending yourself in court.
Try removing your parents' kidney stones.
Try building a two story hou... | This is untenable for a lot of reasons but I’ll list the most blatant.
1. Most Americans don’t know a damn thing about politics. And it wouldn’t just be them passing bad legislation, you’d tell somebody “you’re now the state representative for x district” and they’d have no clue what that means. Even once you got them... | 14k6jid | CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties... | Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives tend to look out for their own interests and that of their party.
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CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties...
Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives t... | i've asked myself and myself has said no! I have no faith that people drawn by lot will be qualified to do the job they are chosen to do. An election is a choice, either I'm choosing a person for a job, or I'm choosing the person who chooses the people who do jobs. I feel comfortable with that, with a lottery I might g... | >Well, then have all laws proposed by representatives be implemented and let individuals choose which laws to follow at which after a time period, the majority of those who follow a certain set of laws will have said set of laws implemented after a census.
This sounds insane, please elaborate.
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I'll explain this ... | 14k6jid | CMV: We should get rid of elections for all public offices in favor of lottery selection together with political parties... | Okay, the flaws of representative democracy is that it tends to place power in the hands of people who agree to represent you and is prone to backsliding and infighting as those representatives tend to look out for their own interests and that of their party.
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CMV: White Pride is not immoral or wrong in any way.
There’s two types of racial pride. One being happiness with who you are and the other being more nationalistic. I’m not arguing that racial nationalism is good for any race to take part in.
An important distinction is being proud of your race because it’s who you a... | To actually try and engage with your point, because lord knows plenty of other people won’t, why should we as people take pride in anything we haven’t done? Something we didn’t earn?
Without resorting to an “other races do it and don’t face backlash” because yes that’s a double standard that does exist and if your po... | What, exactly, is there to be proud of if you don't mind me asking?
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I’m proud of who I am because I exist. I want to make that clear because there shouldn’t be competition between races/ethnicities. No one is more deserving to be happy with who they are.
There’s musical achievements like pianos, saxophones, clas... | 1khc1oh | CMV: White Pride is not immoral or wrong in any way. | There’s two types of racial pride. One being happiness with who you are and the other being more nationalistic. I’m not arguing that racial nationalism is good for any race to take part in.
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CMV: Socialism wouldn't fix the issues of capitalism.
* Greed is seen as a product of capitalism by many people however I see it as a "take the Lion out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the lion" situation. I see greed as more of a mindset rather than a nurtured characteristic. For example there are ... | To your first point - that's not really a problem. Socialism doesn't seek to eliminate greed because it doesn't seek to eliminate the market. We only seek to add rules and welfare systems to the market to make sure everyone does alright. In the process we have to take away some of the rewards of success - but not all o... | [removed]
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germany almost taking over europe?
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? What on earth are you talking about?
But, yes, the Nazis were socialists. | amrk5p | CMV: Socialism wouldn't fix the issues of capitalism. | * Greed is seen as a product of capitalism by many people however I see it as a "take the Lion out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the lion" situation. I see greed as more of a mindset rather than a nurtured characteristic. For example there are some children more inclined to share than others, that ... | HumdrumAnt | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Having kids earlier is better than late*
*assuming an average life with at least some family and friends present.
Birth rates and fertility rates are declining in the developed world and this is a hot topic both here and in bigger media. There are a lot of theories as to why and how to fix it. My view is that we... | Teen parents have a high rate of child abuse and neglect than parents in their late 20s early 30s.
You are complaining that your parents were too tired…. they were too tired to hit you.
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One of many such studies | Having kids is not everything everyone wants to accomplish in their life and most people have goals before it, having kids would make those goals harder. I think younger people should enjoy their lives before having kids, after all you only get one life.I also don't get why birth and fertility rates dropping are a bad ... | 1hi0yun | CMV: Having kids earlier is better than late* | *assuming an average life with at least some family and friends present.
Birth rates and fertility rates are declining in the developed world and this is a hot topic both here and in bigger media. There are a lot of theories as to why and how to fix it. My view is that we should encourage and enable people to have kid... | Head-Succotash9940 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Gambling little amounts is better than not gambling at akk
I play the lottery(pick 6 numbers) once a month at a cost of USD $0.50. In a year, I will have spent USD $6, that to me is a negligible amount of money, and i'm sure it is the same to you. However, i stand a chance of winning the lottery and striking gold... | >In a year, I will have spent USD $6, that to me is a negligible amount of money, and i'm sure it is the same to you. However, i stand a chance of winning the lottery and striking gold even though the chance is very slim
You're measuring with 2 standards here.
If the 6 dollar is negligible then the expected gain fro... | I bought something i can actually have with that $6 my guy.
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A double scoop of cotton candy from my local Custards Last Stand. | inhwzu | CMV: Gambling little amounts is better than not gambling at akk | I play the lottery(pick 6 numbers) once a month at a cost of USD $0.50. In a year, I will have spent USD $6, that to me is a negligible amount of money, and i'm sure it is the same to you. However, i stand a chance of winning the lottery and striking gold even though the chance is very slim. If you don't gamble your US... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Shrooms is safer and healthier than Weed
shrooms > weed.
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To give some background to this opinion, I've been socially smoking weed for about 4-5 months now and every time I did it, it would make me more anxious and paranoid and I would have a slight headache every time I woke up the next morning. Wantin... | My worry would be many people might stumble into traffic or hurt themselves by accident, with weed, most people can still drive with very low impairment. The same cannot be said with shrooms, IMHO many will wonder around and have problems functioning during their so called trip. Beside the dangers of smoking the wrong ... | I like this post a lot, though as a regular weed smoker I have to admit that I find the connection between marijuana and aggression unsettling. I want to challenge you a little on your claim that shrooms is the safest drug. There's a possible argument that LSD is a little safer (assuming of course you actually get LSD ... | amlvrr | CMV: Shrooms is safer and healthier than Weed | shrooms > weed.
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CMV: Capitalism is an inherently oppressive system and its destruction will make the world a better place.
Capitalism is the economic practice in which the means of production are privately owned in one way or another. This means that if you don't have any means to produce, you need to get a job from a company, where ... | In the 20th century the standard of living in capitalist nations increased exponentially. The standard of living in socialist nations...Well what standard of living the murdered 150 million people.
So, 150 million dead wasn't enough so tell me how many bodies have to be ground under heel before you will change your v... | In your system: what would be an incentive to innovate and take risks if you can't reap a lot of benefit from it?
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Of course you are not.
So why did people take risks and innovated before capitalism? Why did people invent or trade things befo... | amqekc | CMV: Capitalism is an inherently oppressive system and its destruction will make the world a better place. | Capitalism is the economic practice in which the means of production are privately owned in one way or another. This means that if you don't have any means to produce, you need to get a job from a company, where the owner(s) (the capitalists) will then pay you a wage for your labor. If you do not do this, then you won'... | Elyassimo | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Trans rights are not “equal” rights, they are “special” and at times “redundant” rights.
I’m in favor or equal rights like gay rights because everyone should be able to get married, but I don’t see how trans rights promote are equality of rights, at best they might be non-equal rights meant to skew things in favo... | To modify your view here:
> Discrimination and harassment are already against the law, any issue with enforcement should be treated as such and does not necessitate new redundant transgender specific laws
Consider that most of the protections for trans people fall under sex / gender discrimination (not some other "s... | Knowing nothing else other than that someone is a transwoman, which bathroom would she really feel uncomfortable using?
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I wouldn’t know, only that person would, if I were to make an assumption I would say that person would probably be more comfortable in the bathroom where they fit in.
However if hypothetically ... | inexxr | CMV: Trans rights are not “equal” rights, they are “special” and at times “redundant” rights. | I’m in favor or equal rights like gay rights because everyone should be able to get married, but I don’t see how trans rights promote are equality of rights, at best they might be non-equal rights meant to skew things in favor of a disadvantaged group in an attempt to level the field, although I’m not entirely convince... | leox001 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: A sortition based model of democracy would be preferable to the election based democracy we have now
[Sortition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition) also known as allotment or demarchy is where citizens are randomly selected by lot to serve in the government. It was the original basis for Athenian democracy ... | Ultimately what happens when you do something like this is that the bureaucracy that supports the government ends up becoming effectively all-powerful, and generally unelected.
And don't think that you could effectively do away with such a bureaucracy. You can't. You need it even with relatively *qualified* candidate... | What if a flat earther, anti vaxxer, or God forbid a neo-nazi gets selected to be president?
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1. Reduce... | BodyweightFitMan | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Higher level of math should not be mandatory in high school
It's different in every country in the world, but in a lot of places it's mandatory to study higher levels of math like trigonometry, calculus, more complex geometry etc in order to graduate high school. It is my opinion that this should not be mandatory... | If taught properly, with a good currciculum, math absolutely does develop logic. Unfortunately, this is a very big if.
The way I learned math, we focused on proofs, on deriving the theory from the ground up, and on solving problems that require creativity, not just knowing the formulas. But if a school requires studen... | Question for clarification: what is the purpose of education?
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Not OP, but I presume they have a similar view than, that education should be geared towards a more utilitarian approach where the ''lower levels'' should be about learning basic and necessary skills while ''higher levels'' should be about learning a p... | 1l4pl8c | CMV: Higher level of math should not be mandatory in high school | It's different in every country in the world, but in a lot of places it's mandatory to study higher levels of math like trigonometry, calculus, more complex geometry etc in order to graduate high school. It is my opinion that this should not be mandatory to study as it's unnecessary for a vast majority of the students.... | the_creator_0 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Women hold men to a way higher standard than men hold women.
Men have a reputation for being shallow and superficial, but I think it's the other way around. There seem to be a lot more criteria that women judge men by than what men judge women by, and they tend to be more strict about them too, being unlikely to ... | Could it be that women are better at **enumerating** their expectations than men are?
For me, it's hard to qualify what counts as "reasonably attractive". I don't know what my favourite shade of lipstick is on my wife or bra brand/size/whatever. I will concede that I'm clueless on the topic of women's undergarments, t... | Your view of what women really want seems to me to be more or less constructed through pop culture references and what you hear stories of. You don't often (or ever, really) hear about the women who don't want a ton of things because it's just not as interesting. That's the running joke, of sorts, that we have. The run... | amr93d | CMV: Women hold men to a way higher standard than men hold women. | Men have a reputation for being shallow and superficial, but I think it's the other way around. There seem to be a lot more criteria that women judge men by than what men judge women by, and they tend to be more strict about them too, being unlikely to make compromises unless there are no options left:
Women expect... | Zerefihr | 3 | 3 | [
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Cmv: There is danger in creating more and more labels for gender identities
I love how our culture more and more embraces people expressing themselves and find their true sexuality, gender, identity etc. I’m of the firm believe that there is no black and white sides to anything. Everything’s on a spectrum. And everyon... | So what is the actual danger/harm with these labels?
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The danger is to cause more confusion and pressure for young kids to define themselves and to put more importance in creating a narrow box then to just let them express themselves however they want. Being called a girl/boy as an umbrella term for any kind of ex... | If you identify as a man, you are a man. If you identify as a woman, you are a woman. Both regardless of what you do or want to do. No one gets to define for you what being a man or woman is. That is the primary message.
But some people don't identify as a man or a woman. They identify otherwise. And those identities,... | 14johq4 | Cmv: There is danger in creating more and more labels for gender identities | I love how our culture more and more embraces people expressing themselves and find their true sexuality, gender, identity etc. I’m of the firm believe that there is no black and white sides to anything. Everything’s on a spectrum. And everyone on any spectrum deserves equal rights and representation. On the basis of t... | quantumSpammer | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: people dissatisfied with the opposite sex should just not date. Complaints are illogical
I don't get man haters that complain about dating men. Just avoid dating them. I really really don't get the problem. If you view all men as pigs who see you as sexual object. Don't date them. Like I hear all these generaliza... | "People dissatisfied with X shouldn't seek for a solution/exception to X"
>If you view all men as pigs who see you as sexual object. Don't date them. Like I hear all these generalizations and it's just stupid. I don't get it.
From what I've seen most people who say this say so as an exaggeration, very few of them lit... | >people dissatisfied with the opposite sex should just not date
How about dating the same sex then?
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!delta that's an OK alternative too
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People can’t control their orientation
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No. But my question is if i am bi and I am unhappy with women, I can date other men according to op
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Same with men (some). I really really don't get t... | Logical_Round_5935 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I should be able to hire discriminately based on religion
There are certain "protected characteristics" I agree with. However, if I've got two people and they're pretty much 50/50 and one says they're a Christian on their CV (for whatever reason) I'm picking the other person. You'd more likely dig that info up on... | Your reasons for wanting to discriminate are somewhat irrational to me.
> don't believe in that stuff, so we're more likely to have less in common for a start. I don't think there's anything wrong with hiring based on the likelihood you'll get along with/have things in common with someone.
This is true. There is one ... | Based on point #1 that you made - getting along being a factor - based on that logic, would you then say its ok to discriminate against anyone at all? Not just based on religion, but based on race gender, sexual orientation, etc...?
I'm not trying to straw man you here, and for the record I myself am a libertarian who... | ampcnj | CMV: I should be able to hire discriminately based on religion | There are certain "protected characteristics" I agree with. However, if I've got two people and they're pretty much 50/50 and one says they're a Christian on their CV (for whatever reason) I'm picking the other person. You'd more likely dig that info up on their FB or Twitter these days. "Likes: God".
Related, I shoul... | onlyfoolandhorse | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Watching the UFC is morally reprehensible.
The reason I believe this is because I believe that it is morally reprehensible to derive enjoyment from watching two people inflict pain on each other. It is, to me, the human equivalent of dog fighting.
I don't think it should be illegal like dog fighting because the... | The people who complete in UFC are doing so willingly without duress were as dogs in dogfighting aren't given a choice.
Also why should deriving pleasure from physical pain be morally wrong? Are sadists bad people?
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>The people who complete in UFC are doing so willingly without duress were as dogs in dogfighting ... | What are your views on the nfl? Why do long term injuries in other sports, like boxing, get a pass? Shouldn't long term injuries be just as important as immediate injuries?
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It's not that long term injuries get a pass it's that because they're often not visible the audience isn't watching the sport in hopes of an... | 5rc0p0 | CMV: Watching the UFC is morally reprehensible. | The reason I believe this is because I believe that it is morally reprehensible to derive enjoyment from watching two people inflict pain on each other. It is, to me, the human equivalent of dog fighting.
I don't think it should be illegal like dog fighting because the fights are between willing participants.
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CMV: Watching the UFC is morally reprehensible.
The reason I believe this is because I believe that it is morally reprehensible to derive enjoyment from watching two people inflict pain on each other. It is, to me, the human equivalent of dog fighting.
I don't think it should be illegal like dog fighting because the... | >The reason I believe this is because I believe that it is morally reprehensible to derive enjoyment from watching two people inflict pain on each other. It is, to me, the human equivalent of dog fighting.
Well that's your moral view, and you are entitled to that; I take its because you believe there is an inherent wr... | The people who complete in UFC are doing so willingly without duress were as dogs in dogfighting aren't given a choice.
Also why should deriving pleasure from physical pain be morally wrong? Are sadists bad people?
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>The people who complete in UFC are doing so willingly without duress were as dogs in dogfighting ... | 5rc0p0 | CMV: Watching the UFC is morally reprehensible. | The reason I believe this is because I believe that it is morally reprehensible to derive enjoyment from watching two people inflict pain on each other. It is, to me, the human equivalent of dog fighting.
I don't think it should be illegal like dog fighting because the fights are between willing participants.
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CMV: There is nothing in the world that 100% of people agree on — literally nothing.
I believe that no matter how obvious, logical, or morally clear something might seem, there will always be someone, somewhere, who disagrees.
It could be something as extreme as "killing babies is bad" or "the sun exists" — and still... | you say consensus is impossible but i disagree on that point. eventually everyone in the human race, or at least the current cohort of everyone currently alive will be dead and so we'll have 100% consensus on every issue by default so consensus is not only possible but it's inevitable
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Up is relative, for an astronaut the sky is below them if they look down on the Earth, or any other direction depending on how they orient themselves | 1l464ie | CMV: There is nothing in the world that 100% of people agree on — literally nothing. | I believe that no matter how obvious, logical, or morally clear something might seem, there will always be someone, somewhere, who disagrees.
It could be something as extreme as "killing babies is bad" or "the sun exists" — and still, you’ll find contrarians, people with mental illnesses, trolls, or just radically dif... | KodaxyGMD | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: recovering human remains serves no logistical or Logical Purpose
After some impassioned comments on another thread:
After a catastrophic event in which there is for all logical reasons no chance of survival: Time, resources and risk take in body recovery often dont make sense.
To be clear were not talking a s... | 40% of the victims from 9/11 are still unidentified, and forensic experts are still working to identify more and more victims, 20 years later.
Especially in today’s society, 9/11 is a rare occurrence of when we come together as a country and get along with one another.
Now imagine how society would react if the gover... | I think you should narrow this view to the recent bridge collapse specifically.
>After a catastrophic event in which there is for all logical reasons no chance of survival
It's ridiculously hard to draw the line where there are logical reasons to think survival was possible. people have been found after days of being... | 1bpblqb | CMV: recovering human remains serves no logistical or Logical Purpose | After some impassioned comments on another thread:
After a catastrophic event in which there is for all logical reasons no chance of survival: Time, resources and risk take in body recovery often dont make sense.
To be clear were not talking a single car goes in a pond. Were talking the Scott Key bridge. 6 people a... | Revolutionary_Pop_84 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Every member of the military is either an utter psycho or a tragic victim
I personally believe that the job requirements of being military personnel are inherently psychopathic, and the conditions obviously horrific. Unless you were forced or tricked into it by circumstance, you wouldn't brave the latter unless t... | I don't understand why you think the poor man is a tragic victim. Most people in the military never kill people or even aide in killing people. The military is a tool, simply flying above or driving past an adversary is more than enough for the politicians to be satisfied. Just look at East Asia, no American soldier ha... | You know the military isn't just soldiers, right?
I know a handful of people in the military. A doctor, some researchers, a couple of programmers. None have ever engaged in any sort of combat.
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CMV: Leather Couches/Seats are expensive and impractical.
Whether this is in a car, or for a couch, I don't see why so many people would opt for leather.
1. Sticky, hot, freezing. Depending on the temperature, leather transfers heat way better, making summers burning and sticky, and winters hard and icy.
2. Many peop... | >3. The smell. I can't stand smells in general, but if you want the leather smell, I'm sure there are sprays and air fresheners you can use that are far cheaper than leather seats.
Who wants artificial smells though? Like i have never gotten into a cab and went "Oooh spruce forest, love the smell" seriously artificial... | I never totally got this, but I have heard that it's easier to clean up re: pet hair. I suppose if you have clean pets like cats, that does make sense. A sweaty or muddy dog would not be compatible with a leather couch
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True, this is a pretty specific case. I'm confused why a ton of high end cars are only offered ... | imu8oj | CMV: Leather Couches/Seats are expensive and impractical. | Whether this is in a car, or for a couch, I don't see why so many people would opt for leather.
1. Sticky, hot, freezing. Depending on the temperature, leather transfers heat way better, making summers burning and sticky, and winters hard and icy.
2. Many people talk about heated seats being offered only on leather tr... | Nitronium777 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Leather Couches/Seats are expensive and impractical.
Whether this is in a car, or for a couch, I don't see why so many people would opt for leather.
1. Sticky, hot, freezing. Depending on the temperature, leather transfers heat way better, making summers burning and sticky, and winters hard and icy.
2. Many peop... | 1. I think this is true but it’s a personal preference.
2. You need to provide proof of this and don’t.
3. Air fresher ears only mimic the smell of leather and do not actually smell like leather. Plus eventually the smell fades away so you’re really only taking about new car smell so this is a moot point.
4. This... | if you couch in your home is sticky, hot, or freezing, you should really manage your thermostat better. For cars I would agree it depends on how you use your car. If you park in a garage at work and at home and have remote start, then rarely will your vehicle ever be very hot or cold even when you sometimes park outs... | imu8oj | CMV: Leather Couches/Seats are expensive and impractical. | Whether this is in a car, or for a couch, I don't see why so many people would opt for leather.
1. Sticky, hot, freezing. Depending on the temperature, leather transfers heat way better, making summers burning and sticky, and winters hard and icy.
2. Many people talk about heated seats being offered only on leather tr... | Nitronium777 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Leather Couches/Seats are expensive and impractical.
Whether this is in a car, or for a couch, I don't see why so many people would opt for leather.
1. Sticky, hot, freezing. Depending on the temperature, leather transfers heat way better, making summers burning and sticky, and winters hard and icy.
2. Many peop... | Here's why many people opt for leather.
Because leather is nonporous, it has a few advantages:
- Spills wipe off easily. This is good for reducing stains and scents. Good for drive thru meals, sporting equipment, kids, messy passengers, and car sex.
- Dust and pollen can't settle into the surface. Good for allergy su... | I never totally got this, but I have heard that it's easier to clean up re: pet hair. I suppose if you have clean pets like cats, that does make sense. A sweaty or muddy dog would not be compatible with a leather couch
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1. Sticky, hot, freezing. Depending on the temperature, leather transfers heat way better, making summers burning and sticky, and winters hard and icy.
2. Many people talk about heated seats being offered only on leather tr... | Nitronium777 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: We should look for a cure to the LGBTQ community
I want to make it clear that I believe the LGBTQ community should have equal rights. I also support the LGBTQ community
So where I am actually coming from is actually my belief in choice. I believe people should have choice in what they want to do and what they ... | If you think the LBGTQ community should have equal rights Why do you think they need to be cured?
They can't have offspring? There have been several papers about the advantages to a child of having a "Gay Uncle"....
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So where I am actually coming from is actually my belief in choice. I believe people should have choice in what they want to do and what they don't. I believe if a someone from the LGBTQ community ... | Mehulex | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Pets that are fully in a bag or backpack (not even a head sticking out the top) should be allowed to go wherever a service dog can go.
First I would like to clarify that I’m not saying people should put animals in their school backpacks. There are specific pet backpacks that have mesh and/or little holes for the ... | Service animals are medical equipment that is necessary to that person's ability to function and access society. Your pet is not.
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I understand and agree with what you’re saying. However I don’t feel like it pertains to my view. The reason being that I never argued that having a pet in a backpack is more important... | Screaming babies can’t be left home alone safely. Pets can. Bad comparison.
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And if you're traveling with your pet and the only place to leave them is a car, then what?
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You make frequent stops and eat quickly or at drive-thrus until you get to a place where you can safely leave your pet for an extended perio... | 14impcm | CMV: Pets that are fully in a bag or backpack (not even a head sticking out the top) should be allowed to go wherever a service dog can go. | First I would like to clarify that I’m not saying people should put animals in their school backpacks. There are specific pet backpacks that have mesh and/or little holes for the animal to breathe as well as being designed specifically for pets.
The reasons I bring up service dogs specifically (that pets in bags shou... | I_am_bad_atusernames | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The "famous violinist" defense of abortion is flawed
While I'm not exactly pro-life, I don't know about bodily autonomy as a defense of abortion. I feel that the famous violinist argument, which is often toted as a perfect counterpoint to pro-life arguments, doesn't really hold up.
The argument goes that you wak... | [deleted]
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This is an excellent point. ∆
It still leaves me with the question, though, of why, if the violinist is exactly the same as the fetus/child, he can't live off another person's money or food like the child can.
But then I guess that's what welfare and food stamps are. In our society, money and other n... | >why can't it also apply to a child who HAS been born and is now imposing on the mother simply by being in her life and having to be taken care of?
It does. That is what safe haven laws are for.
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You mean it does for women, not men. Men do not have that same freedom.
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How is that in any way relevant to op's ... | 60td2p | CMV: The "famous violinist" defense of abortion is flawed | While I'm not exactly pro-life, I don't know about bodily autonomy as a defense of abortion. I feel that the famous violinist argument, which is often toted as a perfect counterpoint to pro-life arguments, doesn't really hold up.
The argument goes that you wake up and find that your circulatory system has been plugged... | Ian3223 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If you truly believe that there is nothing beyond the material world, it logically follows that you should immediately destroy yourself and possibly as many people as you can take with you.
I know that's a provocative title, but hear me out:
Most cultures believe in some sort of continued existence after death, ... | >Someone might say that the point of life would be to enjoy oneself while it lasts. Why? You might experience the most joyous event in the history of events, but when you die, that event will be gone, as though it never occurred.
Why do things need to last forever to "mean" anything?
This seems like a really weird vi... | C) If my one life is all there is I may as well make the best of my one shot in this amazingly complex and beautiful existence.
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That is my question though. Why?
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I have lots of reasons why I want to experience life. I like laughing and making people laugh. I like learning new things and contemplat... | 7hqfog | CMV: If you truly believe that there is nothing beyond the material world, it logically follows that you should immediately destroy yourself and possibly as many people as you can take with you. | I know that's a provocative title, but hear me out:
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CMV: Fighting games should enforce wired connection requirement and prevent Wi-Fi players from playing online matches entirely
A common complaint with regards to fighting games are having to deal lagging players that are potentially using wireless (Wi-Fi) connections. Wireless connections cause more latency, even if t... | Accepting that wireless connections have more latency, and this can result in a less enjoyable experience, I still don't understand why they should ban wireless connections. This would presumably prevent from playing a decent number of players who aren't in a position to implement a wired connection. While it would als... | >Some games do mark players on wireless connections as such and may try to avoid them from being matched with players on wired connections.
If games already avoid matching Wi-Fi players with wired players, then what it the problem?
If Wi-Fi players already don't play with wired, then the only thing banning them achie... | 14illkt | CMV: Fighting games should enforce wired connection requirement and prevent Wi-Fi players from playing online matches entirely | A common complaint with regards to fighting games are having to deal lagging players that are potentially using wireless (Wi-Fi) connections. Wireless connections cause more latency, even if the console is placed as close as possible to the router/access point, and it does not appear to be ever a solvable problem in lo... | FMecha | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: With Global Warming, Nuclear Tensions, and a Dying Democracy Here in America, the World Will Not Be Worth Living in in As Little as 30yrs.
Sorry for the downer post. But with reports of every-other summer in as little as 15yrs setting the record for high temps, rampant pollution and contamination of the environme... | I can only speak to the climate change part of this, but it's not going to end the civilized world in the next 30 years. Humanity is better at adapting to change than you give it credit for here. Since you mention that you live in the US, I can tell you that we're going to be okay. We are a developed nation who has t... | Because, as we all know, America is the entire world.
There's been nuclear tensions in the world since nuclear weapons existed; that's been more than 30 years ago. Lobbying has been a thing for quite a while; why is it just now that it's going to cause the end of democracy?
Not to mention the world is significantly l... | 7hpqw9 | CMV: With Global Warming, Nuclear Tensions, and a Dying Democracy Here in America, the World Will Not Be Worth Living in in As Little as 30yrs. | Sorry for the downer post. But with reports of every-other summer in as little as 15yrs setting the record for high temps, rampant pollution and contamination of the environment, increasing drought and flooding, dropping quality of life, possible nuclear war, loss of functioning democracy (blatant lobbyism/corruption a... | terencebogards | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I should not have my son baptised
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Nothing big honestly. He’s been asking who God is, why people go to church, and whether he can go. I wasn’t planning to rush into a decision until he’s older
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If he's asking to go to church, what would be the harm in taking him? | Baptism is a choice made by the individual being baptized. If it is done without consent, it serves no purpose, and it would actually serve to give him a lesser understanding of what the Bible says.
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See my second edit. Also I assume you’re a baptist? Is that right? Assume I meant teach him what the bible says/mea... | am9g0m | CMV: I should not have my son baptised | So I have a four-year-old boy and it’s getting to the stage where he’s getting interested in bigger questions. I used to think I should get him baptised and do all that stuff, not because I’m that religious but because I thought he should understand Christianity in order to understand the many people who think that way... | Jimac101 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Consumer Culture is toxic, and is hurting our minimum wage workers
As someone who used to be a fast food employee I can easily say that 80% of the stress comes from people being rude. I feel they are rude just because they feel entitled. Some people are completely nice, respectful people but once they walk into a... | I suspect this specific example happens fairly infrequently to begin with but how does it even begin to effect you?
I mean what possible difference could it make to you whether or not corporate or management decides people like Jim should be placated?
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Well as I said, this specific example wasn't very rude, but ... | You work in fast food. You will have to deal with shitty people once in a while.
You know what, I don't work for min wage and I also have to deal with shitty people once and awhile.
And it seems like your customer asked a question. And his question could have been answered and he probably would have gone on his mer... | 7hq8an | CMV: Consumer Culture is toxic, and is hurting our minimum wage workers | As someone who used to be a fast food employee I can easily say that 80% of the stress comes from people being rude. I feel they are rude just because they feel entitled. Some people are completely nice, respectful people but once they walk into a fast food establishment they change into a giant consumer baby. "The cus... | carl123678 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Museums should display reproductions instead of original art works and artefacts
This CMV is inspired by an exhibition of Hieronymus Bosch paintings I went to. The organisers had arranged copies of all his famous works, including ones too delicate to travel or held by institutions that would never have loaned out... | But museum goers will know that they're reproductions, unless you're planning on omitting that info and lying to visitors. And while many individuals probably won't be able to tell the difference between a real and a copy (especially if they've never seen the original to compare it to) simply knowing that it's not real... | > 1) There is no added value to displaying an original artefact: Almost no visitors can tell the difference between a good quality copy and the original, and certainly not under glass from 4 feet away (as required for security).
This is obviously personal, but I find that seeing original artworks can be a deeply rewar... | 14ii24m | CMV: Museums should display reproductions instead of original art works and artefacts | This CMV is inspired by an exhibition of Hieronymus Bosch paintings I went to. The organisers had arranged copies of all his famous works, including ones too delicate to travel or held by institutions that would never have loaned out the originals. The exhibition was free, and because the copies only cost a few thousan... | phileconomicus | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Men should have a vasectomy no later than after fathering their first child until the world population has dropped below 3 billion people.
The way that humanity is currently living is highly unsustainable. Live, not only for the poorer half of us is getting uncomfortable, anyone below the wealthiest 1% ought to f... | The current ability of food production is capable of feeding close to 3 times the number humans currently on the planet. The issue is not one of over population, it is of distribution and wastage.
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So your proposal would lead to a decreasing younger population being made to look after an increasing older population. This could become quite ugly.
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So could an uncontrolled growth... | 7hoqrs | CMV: Men should have a vasectomy no later than after fathering their first child until the world population has dropped below 3 billion people. | The way that humanity is currently living is highly unsustainable. Live, not only for the poorer half of us is getting uncomfortable, anyone below the wealthiest 1% ought to feel it. Resources are dwindling, the globe is warming, space to live in is running lower and lower.
However, I am not one to unjustly crush someo... | Antiloompa | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: think the environment is past saving and we need to acknowledge the future is bleak
I’ve been a big environmental reader and volunteer since I was a kid in Ireland and I always thought their was hope to save it or least preserve it.
However I’ve seen more wastage in my local community, more animals being killed ... | I worked for parks and wildlife in Australia for years. I can’t change your view because it is unequivocally correct. I do have some good news about the planet though, the planet will be fine. It was here billions of years before us and it will be here billions of years after we’ve made it uninhabitable for our species... | Who is the "we" in your CMV?
If it's all humans, I think that's manifestly not true: if all humans gave up and accepted an apocalyptic future, you'd start to see a lot more risky behavior, drug use, and possibly higher levels of crime (think things like looting). This would cause a great deal of immediate harm to peo... | 1l3x0ky | CMV: think the environment is past saving and we need to acknowledge the future is bleak | I’ve been a big environmental reader and volunteer since I was a kid in Ireland and I always thought their was hope to save it or least preserve it.
However I’ve seen more wastage in my local community, more animals being killed and abused in my experience then ever in the 2000s. Plus the fact we are were lied to abou... | Artistic-Insect-8669 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Atheism causes more war than religion.
This is a more specific sub category, not here to debate about the existence of god but just religion as a whole causes less war than atheism.
My argument for this is that WW1 wasn’t caused by religion, WW2 isn’t caused my religion, and looking at the top 10 most brutal ... | The difference is that none of the people you named were motivated by Atheism or did things in the name of Atheism.
That's like saying eating bread causes more war than religion, because all the people in your list ate bread and not all of them were religious.
A crusade is a war caused by religion, an atheist lead... | Have you ever heard of the crusades ? I don't know if more religious or atheist leaders have caused wars but one of the scariest things is when someone deams murder is religiously just. When someone believes God has commanded them to kill.
Twisting religion to justify war/murder creates some of the most awful creatu... | 1bp16xm | CMV: Atheism causes more war than religion. |
This is a more specific sub category, not here to debate about the existence of god but just religion as a whole causes less war than atheism.
My argument for this is that WW1 wasn’t caused by religion, WW2 isn’t caused my religion, and looking at the top 10 most brutal dictators in history,
1) Ivan the terrible ... | Ordinary-boy-9765 | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Ideally, the United States Would Ban All Guns
And by that I don't mean heavy background checks, assault rifle bans, or other typical gun control policies. I mean repeal of the Second Amendment and a ban on all firearms, including pistols. I know it wouldn't be feasible in the short term, but this is my opinion fo... | And how exactly am I going to go hunting again?
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In a developed society, I believe that hunting is for the vast majority of people merely a hobby, one that is not worth the danger it presents to society.
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Full disclosure, I don't hunt.
Hunting is not *just a hobby*. For the rural poor it is a means of provid... | Is it fair to say your argument is a purely utilitarian one? In other words, you think fewer people would die if guns were banned?
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With a competent, successful eradication of guns (to which I think banning is an important part of), yes, I think fewer people would die and get injured, either from accidents or viol... | 60q0b6 | CMV: Ideally, the United States Would Ban All Guns | And by that I don't mean heavy background checks, assault rifle bans, or other typical gun control policies. I mean repeal of the Second Amendment and a ban on all firearms, including pistols. I know it wouldn't be feasible in the short term, but this is my opinion for a long term goal to strive for.
A few reasons:
1... | MissesAndMishaps | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cars should be equipped with both angry and apologetic horns
Short of waving my hand vaguely out the window, or holding it appreciatively under my mirror to signify thanks, there's no way to communicate apology or gratitude on the road. I think that since people can only effectively communicate unhappiness, this ... | Your argument seems to be assuming car horns are used to communicate anger. Car horns are there to be used as a warning to other drivers in an emergency to avoid an accident. People use them as communication tools when they really shouldn't.
When I hear someone honk a horn at a stop sign, I instinctively look around ... | I see your point, and I’ve had the same thought before, but I think the overall utility of the extra horn wouldn’t be worth all the extra noise. We shouldn’t really be encouraging drivers to “communicate” with their horns beyond what it takes to avert an accident.
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my honest take on my witnessed horn usage is that... | bwcvfd | CMV: Cars should be equipped with both angry and apologetic horns | Short of waving my hand vaguely out the window, or holding it appreciatively under my mirror to signify thanks, there's no way to communicate apology or gratitude on the road. I think that since people can only effectively communicate unhappiness, this contributes to road rage.
If someone cuts me off, it certainly wou... | mfDandP | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Capitalism needs heavy handed regulation & close monitoring
People like to think of capitalist markets as magical systems that operate better if you just let them to do their thing. Maybe a few regulations for health and safety here and there, but if you put too much red tape in front of a business it'll damage i... | You know who loves heavy regulation? Big companies. Because they can afford to deal with it. It becomes a huge barrier to entry for potential competitors. The newcomers with new ideas have a much harder time being able to bring those to market.
Imagine a football game where one team is up 10 going into the 4th quarter... | [deleted]
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Ohh, I see, you're a libertarian. I have a question: where does a libertarian view end, and an anarchist one begin? I'm asking this with calm sincerit... | bvtdjw | CMV: Capitalism needs heavy handed regulation & close monitoring | People like to think of capitalist markets as magical systems that operate better if you just let them to do their thing. Maybe a few regulations for health and safety here and there, but if you put too much red tape in front of a business it'll damage its ability to earn profit, create jobs, and benefit consumers. Pro... | ANomadJoe | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: You should be able to report disability fraud anonymously
Currently, to report Social Security Disability Benefits Fraud, the person who reports the suspected fraud needs to provide their SS number.
The reason the government wants you to provide your information is because the burden of proof is on the accuser. ... | > Currently, to report Social Security Disability Benefits Fraud, the person who reports the suspected fraud needs to provide their SS number.
> The reason the government wants you to provide your information is because the burden of proof is on the accuser. If the accusation is not true, the accuser can be charged wi... | The reason why this is explicitly a bad idea is because this can be weaponized. Basically it's to reduce the work load of the SS administration as they will no longer receive frivolous 'tips' from the public. Having the ability to have the government investigate your neighbor is something that totalitarian governments ... | 8fc221 | CMV: You should be able to report disability fraud anonymously | Currently, to report Social Security Disability Benefits Fraud, the person who reports the suspected fraud needs to provide their SS number.
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CMV : I believe that responding to hatred (racism, intolerance or bullying) with hatred, is a perfectly acceptable and effective reaction.
I believe that when met with hatred of any kind, it is perfectly understandable and even effective to respond in kind.
My view is that human kind will always have conflict, this c... | *The point you made is complete nonsense that only an idiot would consider condoning*
How does that kind of intro make you think about this response?
It makes you dislike it. It makes you dislike me. You've been attacked in a rude and personal manner, which means you want to prove me wrong. Any way you can make me ... | How is it effective?
Look at Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Which one would you say is more effective? The one that is less hateful.
If the end goal here is less hatred, then fighting it with hatred is counter intuitive. The best method to fight hatred is the one that is most effective. That method is education an... | 8fbvgr | CMV : I believe that responding to hatred (racism, intolerance or bullying) with hatred, is a perfectly acceptable and effective reaction. | I believe that when met with hatred of any kind, it is perfectly understandable and even effective to respond in kind.
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CMV: Even if humans can achieve immortality, we should not do so.
assuming we can achieve immortality or at least a several century long lifespan, we should not do so.
why? well here's my argument : the world has finite resources so assuming non-declining birthrates, this will results in the world running out of reso... | >and if birthrates do decline to support the population, this will result in stagnation. because human acquire beliefs and biases and generally speaking we stop fundamentally changing our beliefs when we get older and thus the world stagnates socially (and probably scientifically) because much less newer perspective wi... | The world does not have resources so finite that we need to reach the end of them. Our biggest issue is a need for energy. With enough energy, we can produce enough food and desalinate enough water. And there is a big ball of energy in the sky that can be used to account for a whole lot of those needs, and a whole bunc... | 1mijx7w | CMV: Even if humans can achieve immortality, we should not do so. | assuming we can achieve immortality or at least a several century long lifespan, we should not do so.
why? well here's my argument : the world has finite resources so assuming non-declining birthrates, this will results in the world running out of resources.
and if birthrates do decline to support the population, thi... | random_strange_one | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:I Believe That The Letter of The Islamic Scriptures Describes A Geocentric Flat-Earth Model of the Universe
I must stress that i'm not trying to argue whether the texts should be taken literally or metaphorically on this. My argument is only about whether the letter of the Islamic texts describes a geocentric flat... | From the evidence both for and against you have provided, a "letter of the Islamic texts" reading describes a geocentric model, but not a Flat-Earth Model or the modern one... there isn't a mention of the curvature of the earth here, or a boundary/edge of it's surface - where do you specifically read this from?
From y... | You should change your view because, although you say you're "not trying to argue whether the texts should be taken literally or metaphorically," your CMV itself is explicitly concerned with taking them literally. That's what "the letter of the texts" means.
There is no meaning of the text independent of readers, inde... | 8fa299 | CMV:I Believe That The Letter of The Islamic Scriptures Describes A Geocentric Flat-Earth Model of the Universe | I must stress that i'm not trying to argue whether the texts should be taken literally or metaphorically on this. My argument is only about whether the letter of the Islamic texts describes a geocentric flat-earth model, as opposed to the scientifically accurate model.
I would summarize the model of the universe i... | utnapishtim89 | 4 | 4 | [
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Cmv: partying's main or only purpose is to engage in some sort of sexual activity.
I've never been the partying type, growing up I found clubs quite uncomfortable, music too loud, people too annoying. A few years back I started going out more while living in another country, having just broken up with my ex, and in se... | There are so many different types of parties. Baby showers, birthday parties, Halloween parties, office Christmas parties, etc.
If there wasn’t something inherently fun about these kinds of social gatherings beyond sex, why would any of the other types of parties exist? Sometimes people just want to get drunk and danc... | [deleted]
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I mean why *is* dancing fun?
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[deleted] | ky5ggo | Cmv: partying's main or only purpose is to engage in some sort of sexual activity. | I've never been the partying type, growing up I found clubs quite uncomfortable, music too loud, people too annoying. A few years back I started going out more while living in another country, having just broken up with my ex, and in search of some fun.
It was an interesting couple of years, loads of alcohol and sex.
... | daianaj | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It's preferable to be a software engineer compared to doctor
In my opinion, the profession of doctor no longer is worth it. Debilitating student loans, the prime of your life spent hunching over books, the insane stress/workload during residency and even during the career means doctors are suffering mental health... | [deleted]
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[Apparently doctors kill the third-largest amount of people in America, after heart disease and cancer.](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html) Is that a burden that they would want to carry?
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That seems like a disingenuous way of phrasing it, i... | If you are a medical doctor, you are guaranteed a high-paying job for the rest of your life. You will never have trouble finding a job.
Meanwhile, ageism is rampant within tech. So being a software engineer may seem sexy in your twenties, but when you hit your 40’s you might not have such strong job security… never mi... | twdet6 | CMV: It's preferable to be a software engineer compared to doctor | In my opinion, the profession of doctor no longer is worth it. Debilitating student loans, the prime of your life spent hunching over books, the insane stress/workload during residency and even during the career means doctors are suffering mental health issues for little gain. Remember, if you screw up at any point in ... | ScholaroftheWorld1 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: There should be no such thing as being overqualified for any job posting
I have heard from some friends and family lately that they have applied to various job postings they find and the feedback is commonly along the lines of, “I’m sorry, but we have chosen to move forward with other candidates due to your over-... | Why should a company invest resources in training somebody that they don’t think is going to be happy there long term?
I mean this isn’t even sometimes that’s happening to you and you don’t mention what kind of job it is and how overqualified the person is. The job market is a mess right now. I don’t blame companies f... | As a business owner, I will share that over-qualified people who settle for a job outside of their field/below their pay grade often are desperate for that job at that time and will continue to look for something else and have less commitment to you once they find something to better suited to them. I will still hire t... | kxww0z | CMV: There should be no such thing as being overqualified for any job posting | I have heard from some friends and family lately that they have applied to various job postings they find and the feedback is commonly along the lines of, “I’m sorry, but we have chosen to move forward with other candidates due to your over-qualification for this position.”
If a person looks at a position, thinks it’s... | tnel77 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Reddit mods are responsible for creating echo chambers.
It’s like they can ban whoever they want for whatever reason any time they want. Hey last time I tried to post this it gotten taken down, driving my point to even further. I’m open to hearing what other people have to say, but 0% of mods have even responded.... | Well, idk to be honest. I made post 3 days ago stating my opinion, I went to bed, and woke up to 50 comments bashing me. I couldn't even defend myself because a mod had Golden Locked it. I had to sit there and read all these comments and couldn't even defend myself, BUT the mod told me they did that simply because of t... | I would counter by saying that is literally the point of subreddits... they should have rules and serve a community. For example mods in r/Christianity don't do shit and the page is just full of trolls and atheists lol. r/atheism is annoyingly moderated but at least its not full people who are literally not atheist
--... | tw0etg | CMV: Reddit mods are responsible for creating echo chambers. | It’s like they can ban whoever they want for whatever reason any time they want. Hey last time I tried to post this it gotten taken down, driving my point to even further. I’m open to hearing what other people have to say, but 0% of mods have even responded. It’s as if people cannot be called out on their own bullshit ... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Any system of approval (including Reddit's) that uses a binary approach would benefit from a third, middle of the road, option
Every time I decide to qualify a movie on Netflix, a comment on Reddit or a post on Facebook I am forced to choose between two restrictive choices: either agree (or like) or disagree (or ... | Well, you have the option to abstain.
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Yes, but as I said that is exactly the problem. By abstaining you are being forced to not express your opinion. It feels as if you are left out of the discussion. And yes, I know comments are possible and mitigate the situation but I still feel they are not enough
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>Yes,... | The problem is that there is no mid point. How would Reddit implement this? A "meh" would be 0.5 Karma or -0.5? The only way for it to be truly neutral would be it giving 0 - where it don't change anything. The only way would be a separate "meh" counter, just for that. The problem isn't that the aproval system is binar... | 8f7btl | CMV: Any system of approval (including Reddit's) that uses a binary approach would benefit from a third, middle of the road, option | Every time I decide to qualify a movie on Netflix, a comment on Reddit or a post on Facebook I am forced to choose between two restrictive choices: either agree (or like) or disagree (or dislike) with it.
However, most things in life are not binary and I often find myself neither agreeing/liking nor disagreeing/disli... | Rod7z | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Many African Americans are hysterical and “lack a big picture” when it comes to black history being taught in American schools.
My title may have come off as offensive, but relax. Seriously relax. Breath will ya :)
I happen to be a history buff. I’ve been a history buff since roughly 2013/2014. My favorite era t... | >Russian Time of Troubles, Hundred Years War, Qing conquest of the Ming, British Afghan Wars, War of the Triple Alliance, Mongol conquests, breakup of Austria Hungary, Yugoslav Wars, Viking Age, attempted Spanish reconquest of Mexico, Hundred Thousand Sons of Saint Louis Expedition, The Crusades, Seljuk Empire, Sassani... | You’re missing the bigger picture. In America, with the descendants of the slave trade, their ancestor’s experiences are minimized, ignored, or whitewashed away.
Never mind the Troubles or Qing dynasty, we can’t even cover a history millions of Americans are part of.
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So what do you suggest gets replaced?
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CMV: Postmodern philosophy should be ignored by people considering philosophical or political questions
I think that the vast majority of philosophy that is coded as "postmodern" is either nonsense or at least without much value in understanding the world. While "Postmodernism" is a very broad category, hopefully it w... | Why don't you reject a universal formal logic?
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It seems to me that many logical axioms hold universally throughout human experience. For example, I've never heard any compelling reason to reject, say, The Law of Non-Contradiction.
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Is the mere fact that you haven't found reason to reject it a reason to accep... | > Further I think this is evidence that they most likely hold independent of humans at all.
Whoa, can you explain this part? I have questions before it, but this is a bit surprising.
> It seems that much of empirical and mathematical knowledge is capital-T True, independent of the culture or individual.
That's bec... | 6pscik | CMV: Postmodern philosophy should be ignored by people considering philosophical or political questions | I think that the vast majority of philosophy that is coded as "postmodern" is either nonsense or at least without much value in understanding the world. While "Postmodernism" is a very broad category, hopefully it will be apparent from context exactly what sorts of work I'm talking about.
Some reasons are as follows:... | bouched | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: if a real westworld existed, it wouldn’t be immoral to take a vacation there
Definition of Westworld for those who haven’t seen the show;
“The story takes place in Westworld, a fictional, technologically advanced Wild-West-themed amusement park populated by android "hosts". The park caters to high-paying "guest... | It is heavily implied that the robots are actually conscious. Treating them badly would therefor be immoral. (I agree that it wouldn't be immoral if the robots weren't conscious.)
Is that enough? Or do you want to debate whether robots actually can become conscious IRL? Or whether it'sactually immoral to harm non-huma... | I was recently reading the philosophy of morality. Although there were many different views for different circumstances, but there seemed to be common consensus everywhere that more than the result of your actions, its your intentions which must be judged. So if raping or murdering an almost human like species is your ... | bw25px | CMV: if a real westworld existed, it wouldn’t be immoral to take a vacation there | Definition of Westworld for those who haven’t seen the show;
“The story takes place in Westworld, a fictional, technologically advanced Wild-West-themed amusement park populated by android "hosts". The park caters to high-paying "guests" who may indulge their wildest fantasies within the park without fear of retaliat... | wingsith19 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Associating black people with watermelon and fried chicken is not intrinsically harmful.
I don't even know if it is true factually/statistically whether or not black people do in fact find greater enjoyment from fried chicken and watermelon, but I'm not really sure it matters that much. Both foods don't imply any... | Intrinsicly harmful maybe not, however it does help to perpetuate a stereotype, which is never very helpful. Also, some people who do have harmful racist views would likely see people expressing that view as validating their own racism. All in all I would argue that perpetuating the idea that you can draw any conclusio... | Given that it is widely understood that black folks do not like to be depicted by racial stereotypes, doing so anyway communicates that you don't care about offending black folks, which is at least a little harmful.
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>doing so anyway communicates that you don't care about offending black folks
In all truth, I am... | 8euifv | CMV: Associating black people with watermelon and fried chicken is not intrinsically harmful. | I don't even know if it is true factually/statistically whether or not black people do in fact find greater enjoyment from fried chicken and watermelon, but I'm not really sure it matters that much. Both foods don't imply any negative qualities themselves, but rather the other (racist) party is adding their own percept... | franksinatraisbest | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Cyclist's are unfairly attacked for minor traffic law infringement while car drivers are just as guilty.
My view can be stated as follows:
Bicycles are not Cars.
Bicycles are not as dangerous as cars.
Road law is a useful tool for society but ultimately relative and varying between culture/country.
As an exam... | As an example, running a red light on a bicycle at an empty intersection is against the law but not hugely dangerous given the context of an informed cyclist with good judgement.
"Cyclists are unfairly attacked, but here I am justifying dangerous riding..."
My guy, be serious.
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Elsewhere in my submission, I just... | Whether or not car drivers break the law does not matter to whether it is wrong for cyclists to break the law, and cyclists tend to break this law often. Choosing whether they count as a pedestrian or a vehicle depending on what's convenient for them, riding their bike on the side walk at high speed, and running red li... | 1fmatk4 | CMV: Cyclist's are unfairly attacked for minor traffic law infringement while car drivers are just as guilty. | My view can be stated as follows:
Bicycles are not Cars.
Bicycles are not as dangerous as cars.
Road law is a useful tool for society but ultimately relative and varying between culture/country.
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CMV: It is not racist to prefer white partners
Its perfectly fine to have preferences such as height, physical fitness, pretty vs ugly (subjective obviously), intelligence, shared religion, etc. Skin color is included.
Why? Some people just have an attraction to skin color, (which in some cases is different from ... | As my older brother once told me once when he dated a black girl, it is all pink inside.
As many others have said, it could be consider racist if the skin tone immediately turns you off. If you discount them and don’t look at anything other than skin tone, yeah that could be racist. Open your eyes and maybe you’ll fi... | >Some people just have an attraction to skin color, (which in some cases is different from their own) same as some people prefer blondes over brunettes.
I've only heard people talking about preferring a certain hair color on TV and I've never known a single person in real life who would *only* date blondes over brunet... | 8f4ids | CMV: It is not racist to prefer white partners | Its perfectly fine to have preferences such as height, physical fitness, pretty vs ugly (subjective obviously), intelligence, shared religion, etc. Skin color is included.
Why? Some people just have an attraction to skin color, (which in some cases is different from their own) same as some people prefer blondes ov... | basilone | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: If Trump is implicated in the Epstein Files, it should not be redacted because it's not a national security concern.
I've seen people pointing to the national security exemption, and saying this will be used to keep from releasing anything that would implicate Trump, if he is indeed implicated in the Epstein File... | It doesn't matter if you can take away "the blackmail" aspect.
It actively shows you have a history of it, and therefore it can happen again. It's why most of the three letter agencies ask this question and it can disqualify you from employment.
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How is that a national security concern? It's already believed wid... | You only believe that because you ain't in the cult.
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I am indeed not MAGA, but I'm genuinely curious to see how it could be a national security concern and even open to having my view changed on it, so here I am.
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Well, you won't find me inviting the cult in through any door, let alone the front door. But yo... | 1p2lxkk | CMV: If Trump is implicated in the Epstein Files, it should not be redacted because it's not a national security concern. | I've seen people pointing to the national security exemption, and saying this will be used to keep from releasing anything that would implicate Trump, if he is indeed implicated in the Epstein Files. And while personally I do believe that that's how it will play out, I argue that it *shouldn't* be allowed to be played ... | illogictc | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Politicians should have to give up their wealth in order to serve and should live only on job compensation
I think one of the core problems in American politics (and elsewhere) is how personal wealth is tied to political power. I believe we’d have a healthier system if high-ranking politicians had to give up thei... | Any system that forces its civil servants or politicians into the lower classes is a system that will make them ripe for corruption and bribes. If their wealth is gained legally, at least it can be tracked and taxed.
We also don't want the *entire* upper class to be made up of only private citizens and zero public se... | The people with the most aptitude have the most $. That has been the case throughout history.
It's obviously not the case ALL THE TIME. Sometimes people get $ by being criminals or just inherit it.
But basically what you're saying is that you want to be ruled by a bunch of mediocre people. Because anyone with aptitu... | 1mditkj | CMV: Politicians should have to give up their wealth in order to serve and should live only on job compensation | I think one of the core problems in American politics (and elsewhere) is how personal wealth is tied to political power. I believe we’d have a healthier system if high-ranking politicians had to give up their wealth when they take office and live only on their government salary.
Here’s what I mean:
- They shouldn’t b... | rhiao | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I've become increasingly convinced that sortition is the only way to save democracy
Money has always been a big part of getting a message out and influencing voters, but in recent years the problem has been getting worse. I find the belief that we can simply regulate it away to be naive, especially when the peop... | The biggest problem I see with your idea is that neither education or science/knowledge is politically neutral; politics are unavoidable in interpreting data. That is why universities are places where controversy is more common than consensus.
Where universities *do* have consensus, often they arrive at consensus on ... | sorry, are you abolishing the power to elect leaders or representatives?
your idea to “save democracy” is to end it?
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Let's say 30% of people agree with you ... | fbyfpd | CMV: I've become increasingly convinced that sortition is the only way to save democracy | Money has always been a big part of getting a message out and influencing voters, but in recent years the problem has been getting worse. I find the belief that we can simply regulate it away to be naive, especially when the people looking to influence an election aren't always the candidates themselves. Instead, I t... | Impacatus | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: There aren’t as many genders as we think
So this is more of a topic based on confusion for me, and this was mainly to address my questions. So the topic is that, since there seems to be an infinite number of genders nowadays, what does a gender even qualify as? I did a bit of math and came up much lower than most... | !info "gender is a mix between sex and sexual preference"
Please define this clearer. And give examples on how to determine gender based on these two variables.
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Ok, sorry. I was seeing it as a type of graph or box-plot type of thing, like those “mix the genes” boxes from 5th grade bio (I forget their names). On ... | There's a lot wrong here and I'm not sure where to start.
I guess let's just get the definition of gender right and go from there. You seem to have mixed sexual orientation into gender—which is incorrect.
Gender is just the expressed sex identity. It's what social norms for a sex you express. It has nothing to do w... | bvx5wq | CMV: There aren’t as many genders as we think | So this is more of a topic based on confusion for me, and this was mainly to address my questions. So the topic is that, since there seems to be an infinite number of genders nowadays, what does a gender even qualify as? I did a bit of math and came up much lower than most people today.
So gender and sex used to be in... | Tabletop_Sam | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Just because abortion result in the killing of a being, it doesn't necessarely means it's morally bad.
The moral premise I don't agree with is :
*It is systematically bad/immoral to stop an innocent human life.*
And that premise is often implicitly forced upon people simply because killing is such a negatively co... | One of those again: "this isn't morally bad",
Except we as society spontaneously decides what's morally right or not
So I assume you mean:
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So we can argue this now, yes killing is morally okay sometimes... | Your parents had no duty to teach you the guitar. Had they failed to teach you to read, or to send you to a school to do that, then your life would be worse later on and they would be morally to blame for it.
This isn't a matter of morality being retroactive; rather, it's looking forward at the rest of the child's li... | 8f4s2b | CMV: Just because abortion result in the killing of a being, it doesn't necessarely means it's morally bad. | The moral premise I don't agree with is :
*It is systematically bad/immoral to stop an innocent human life.*
And that premise is often implicitly forced upon people simply because killing is such a negatively connoted word.
A common argument of people against abortion is : "Is a patient in permanent coma less human th... | MirrorThaoss | 11 | 11 | [
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CMV: The number of sexual partners a personal has counts as life experience
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But you didn't really answer my question. Why do you want this changed? I don't even really know how one would argue against this aside from nitpicking your wording (e.g. an increased number of sexual partners isn't *always* equal to more life exper... | Are you equating sexual partners to 'overall' life experience or just 'sexual' life experience?
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Gotcha. So are you implying th... | bvz1dv | CMV: The number of sexual partners a personal has counts as life experience | Insofar as even the most casual sexual relationships require a degree of intimacy most non-sexual relationships never even aspire to, and an intimate relationship of any kind with another person is typically one of the most defining life experiences a person can have, I think you can pretty fairly approximate a person'... | GrewUpInSpiteOfIt | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the west including my country (Denmark) should sanction Saudi Arabia for numerous reasons or at least stop supporting Saudi Arabia and actually oppose it.
(View has been changed)
The reason for that is many of the human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia for smaller crimes, secular liberal people being punished an... | Saudi Arabia is a reliable middle eastern ally and hosts a lot if military infrastructure. Additionally, keeping the middle east fighting itself keeps them from banding together and fighting Europe or choking them off from trade. So in the interests of the people of Europe, Saudi Arabia should be allowed to keep doing ... | This argument has to be weighed properly. My weighing mechanism for this debate is going to be as follows:
net benefit of as many people as possible.
​
So with this said, which case offers the most benefits for the most people: Supporting Saudi Arabia or opposing it?
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Supporting Saudi Arabia helps c... | bvz28a | CMV: the west including my country (Denmark) should sanction Saudi Arabia for numerous reasons or at least stop supporting Saudi Arabia and actually oppose it. | (View has been changed)
The reason for that is many of the human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia for smaller crimes, secular liberal people being punished and such, the attacks on Yemen at the expense of Yemeni citizens and not just opposition, (I believe a lot of citizen death could be avoided and dealt with without... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: letting a cat wander outdoor or not should be decided on a case-by-case basis.
I’ve seen many debates on Reddit around letting cats go outdoor or not. Some of the key arguments brought forward are the health risks for the cat and the dangers for biodiversity from the cat’s behaviour outside.
I think it’s very i... | None of this changes the irresponsibility of harm the cat does as an invasive species within the non-native environment around your home. The "health of your cat" isn't the dominant reason I think having an indoor/outdoor cat is a problem (or an outdoor cat).
It's unethical to declaw, and a cat with claws (and often ... | It’s your pet and you are responsible for everything it does.
Local laws basically everywhere will state you personally can’t kill a wild bird or a wild mouse. Why do you think your cat can?
Local laws will state you can’t hop the fence into your neighbors yard and sometimes take a dump. Why do you think your cat ca... | 1mhjy2c | CMV: letting a cat wander outdoor or not should be decided on a case-by-case basis. | I’ve seen many debates on Reddit around letting cats go outdoor or not. Some of the key arguments brought forward are the health risks for the cat and the dangers for biodiversity from the cat’s behaviour outside.
I think it’s very important to assess these elements when choosing whether to let a cat go outdoor or no... | ProfessionalTap2400 | 5 | 5 | [
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