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because `row[0]` is a string
2017-10-29T11:45:14.000063
Meg
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`row[0]` value is `‘Pitimbu’]
2017-10-29T11:45:38.000057
Meg
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how I got <@Meg>
2017-10-29T11:45:59.000106
Carolin
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`row[1][0]` would return `-5.876...`
2017-10-29T11:46:01.000086
Meg
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:slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-29T11:46:01.000121
Carolin
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what you have to remember is you can access a character in a string by its index position
2017-10-29T11:46:35.000027
Meg
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thanks dude! It worked... I guess that I was at 4am in this part KKKKKKKK omg so ashamed
2017-10-29T11:47:05.000115
Carolin
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thanks <@Meg>!
2017-10-29T11:47:33.000020
Carolin
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no need to be ashamed it’s part of the learning process :wink:
2017-10-29T11:48:23.000034
Johana
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<@Meg> :taco:
2017-10-29T11:48:27.000093
Johana
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:slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-29T11:49:29.000083
Carolin
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HAHA finally it worked... omg I was at 4am trying to figure out what I was doing wrong using Uber API to simulate something like this <https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/10/uber-seems-to-offer-better-service-in-areas-with-more-white-people-that-raises-some-tough-questions/?utm_term=.b12202a9ed14> in my...
2017-10-29T12:14:12.000068
Carolin
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What is the equivalent unary operator of ! (not) in python? ~?
2017-10-29T12:33:29.000017
Carolin
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`not` :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-29T12:34:20.000054
Meg
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as in `if not some_value:`
2017-10-29T12:34:34.000003
Meg
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:slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-29T12:34:42.000100
Carolin
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tnks
2017-10-29T12:34:46.000029
Carolin
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`and`, `or` and `not` are the boolean ops
2017-10-29T12:35:06.000076
Meg
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ok
2017-10-29T12:35:13.000014
Carolin
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took me a bit of getting used to, coming from java and JS
2017-10-29T12:35:30.000047
Meg
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haha same as me
2017-10-29T12:36:41.000003
Carolin
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or same as you
2017-10-29T12:36:57.000016
Carolin
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english is not my first language too KKK
2017-10-29T12:37:14.000048
Carolin
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ops... KKK = hahaha in Brazil
2017-10-29T12:37:25.000035
Carolin
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dont get me wrong
2017-10-29T12:37:36.000035
Carolin
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ah, ok. Here in the US, it means Ku Klux Klan, which is definitely not a haha :smile:
2017-10-29T12:52:22.000056
Meg
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but good to know!
2017-10-29T12:52:30.000069
Meg
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<@Carolin> Do you pronounce it like 'kay kay kay'?
2017-10-29T12:57:04.000005
Mallie
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yeah I know but only noticed after write it
2017-10-29T12:59:35.000013
Carolin
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<@Mallie> not like that 'cause the k here is little bit different is more like ka in kakaroto ( <https://youtu.be/w8GGm9ZzgvU?t=23s> ) but in a laugh way. If you put in youtube 'risada brasileiro kkk' you should find some results
2017-10-29T13:07:26.000129
Carolin
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<@Carolin> That is an interesting fact. What does kkk stand for?
2017-10-29T13:58:47.000010
Leif
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<@Leif> is hahaha, a laugh or lol, not like in US that is Ku Klux Klan as <@Meg> talked earlier
2017-10-29T14:26:22.000025
Carolin
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so in english, its more of a `caw` sound, than `kay`?
2017-10-29T14:57:58.000135
Meg
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hi guys, new to python , looking for a place to contribute ? any suggestions
2017-10-29T14:59:04.000021
Carolyne
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Can anyone help me set up a python environment in VIM? I’ve got most of the way there ( I think ) but I’ve got a few issues and questions… (Disclaimer: I’m totally new to VIM) DM me
2017-10-29T15:28:42.000001
Tami
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Nevermind, I’ve got there I think. My only issue is that YCM doesn’t autocomplete here: `from typing import ...` I expect it to pop up and offer the import like `List, Callable etc...`. However if I do `import List \n List.[popup]` it autocompletes all of the classes inside the site package there.. So I’ve missed a co...
2017-10-29T15:54:02.000108
Tami
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<@Meg> Japanese 'ka' in 'kakarot' is basically 'ca' in 'car'
2017-10-29T16:27:23.000035
Mallie
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how did u set up the linter and autocomplition in vim? i legit was trying to do it for a while i couldnt get it
2017-10-29T17:27:22.000099
Leif
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Any C#/.NET users around?
2017-10-29T18:36:11.000003
Mallie
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I've used it but I'm no expert
2017-10-29T18:39:35.000013
Rosetta
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I may have found what I was looking for but basically I was just looking for any sort of standard opinion on how applications/projects should be laid out.
2017-10-29T18:44:14.000002
Mallie
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I think I was using the wrong terms and not finding much, but I know found some stuff that makes sense.
2017-10-29T18:44:33.000066
Mallie
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If you have a good resource to share that'd be cool, I was just lost for a few minutes of googling looking for something I thought would be pretty obvious.
2017-10-29T18:44:56.000024
Mallie
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pluralsight has lots of .net junk. I learned visual basic in the aol 2.5 days.
2017-10-29T18:48:18.000006
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-10-29T18:48:18.000006
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Most of what I did I read out of books a few years ago
2017-10-29T18:57:39.000002
Rosetta
pythondev_help_Rosetta_2017-10-29T18:57:39.000002
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This probably isn't the best place to look for help regarding .Net though
2017-10-29T18:58:14.000122
Rosetta
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has anyone used pthon fire for cli tools? was looking at click but this looks pretty easy too <https://github.com/google/python-fire/blob/master/docs/guide.md>
2017-10-29T23:21:57.000130
Bruno
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Click is much more explicit about what's going on... I don't like these examples. What I see from the guide, `fire` is full of implicit conversions to optional/required arguments, subcommands, etc.
2017-10-29T23:38:38.000010
Collette
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Yeah I much prefer Click and it’s what I recommended in my Reliable Tools talk
2017-10-30T00:22:17.000015
Marcie
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Kakarot is carrot
2017-10-30T00:33:48.000015
Mirna
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<http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Origins_of_character_names>
2017-10-30T00:34:29.000136
Mirna
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vegeta is part of vegetable
2017-10-30T00:34:49.000011
Mirna
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Maybe the author is vegetarian :))
2017-10-30T00:35:50.000018
Mirna
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Hey Guys, I’m looking for ideas on how to upskill my software dev team outside of reading news and blogs etc. We’ve been together for a while and it all works, but, looking to freshen our process / skills with outside ideas. Thanks in advance…Will.
2017-10-30T06:06:01.000158
Evelin
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Conferences?
2017-10-30T06:18:06.000188
Krysta
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<@Evelin> a couple things come to mind 1. Hack day in office - each person picks something a little out of their area of expertise and tries to do something that has potential to benefit the company/ongoing projects. 2. Host or attend a local meetup in one of the languages you work in 3. Consider Pluralsight/Udemy/S...
2017-10-30T06:24:45.000101
Meg
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1
2017-10-30T06:31:31.000377
Mirian
pythondev_help_Mirian_2017-10-30T06:31:31.000377
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also we're trying to implement a process where everyone can suggest a topic that he wants to give a presentation or wants to hear about it from someone else
2017-10-30T06:32:17.000407
Mirian
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and those presentations would be once a month or so
2017-10-30T06:32:33.000228
Mirian
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yes. I suggested something similar a couple times at my office and it was done twice before the others developed a lack of interest
2017-10-30T06:33:37.000110
Meg
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tough balance - does all the content come from a clique group, and the rest of the team kinda coasts along, or is it required that everyone do at least one a year?
2017-10-30T06:34:15.000019
Meg
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we won't make it required to attend
2017-10-30T06:36:34.000179
Mirian
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but want to provide food, drinks etc. to encourage people to stay after working hours
2017-10-30T06:37:21.000340
Mirian
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yeah, this was like a scheduled block during the day, once a month
2017-10-30T06:38:18.000408
Meg
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usually 90 minutes at 3p, and everyone could leave after
2017-10-30T06:38:34.000102
Meg
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and do you have some more conclusions why it failed?
2017-10-30T06:40:31.000098
Mirian
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<@Evelin> too bad you’re out of the London area, or I could point you to some people at a company I know in Guildford
2017-10-30T06:40:37.000297
Meg
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company culture, no driving force pushing standards and such.
2017-10-30T06:41:00.000256
Meg
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ok, and how big is the company?
2017-10-30T06:41:27.000178
Mirian
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entire team is pretty lazy in a number of ways, and very comfortable
2017-10-30T06:41:32.000120
Meg
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5 devs total, 15 people in all
2017-10-30T06:41:52.000289
Meg
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so a pretty small one
2017-10-30T06:41:58.000027
Meg
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hello
2017-10-30T06:42:29.000074
Toby
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its a type of environment that I think fosters stagnation, in a number of ways
2017-10-30T06:42:32.000026
Meg
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oh, we're a small one too, but some kind of software agency, so about 15 developers, 2 QA and CEO
2017-10-30T06:42:47.000355
Mirian
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fortunately, I’m isolated from about 95% of that
2017-10-30T06:42:53.000430
Meg
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but looking for ways to scale and stay competetive against bigger and more well-known companies
2017-10-30T06:43:47.000279
Mirian
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part of the problem is the entire company started as a print publishing company, and moved to tech. the owner was a subject matter expert originally, but is certainly not now nor ever when it comes to tech. but she insists on having the kind of control over decisions as if she were. Combined with the fact there is _...
2017-10-30T06:44:18.000222
Meg
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its pretty well known that we need some sort of project manager involved, but no way will a hire ever happen for that
2017-10-30T06:44:39.000077
Meg
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hello?
2017-10-30T06:45:31.000011
Emily
pythondev_help_Emily_2017-10-30T06:45:31.000011
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that's not good I guess, maybe one of you can go into management
2017-10-30T06:46:30.000014
Mirian
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is tkinter a good library to use when starting with gui's?
2017-10-30T06:48:10.000066
Toby
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Maybe eventually, but certainly not at this place
2017-10-30T06:48:49.000060
Meg
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I played a bit with it and it was ok. Your gui's won't be beautiful but it should be a good start
2017-10-30T06:49:47.000239
Ciera
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I'd say they've lost about 8M USD in about 9 years or so due lost sales and turnover as well as a huge mountain of technical debt that is making feature development move like molasses
2017-10-30T06:50:07.000420
Meg
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yes its
2017-10-30T06:50:10.000307
Emily
pythondev_help_Emily_2017-10-30T06:50:10.000307
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true !!
2017-10-30T06:50:22.000225
Emily
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you can try QT
2017-10-30T06:50:33.000205
Emily
pythondev_help_Emily_2017-10-30T06:50:33.000205
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Hell, git branching is black magic to some of them.
2017-10-30T06:50:44.000049
Meg
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thanks, so if its a good base/starting point, what would be a "beautiful gui"? id like it to remain free though
2017-10-30T06:50:57.000178
Toby
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i guess PyQt
2017-10-30T06:52:37.000012
Emily
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i thought pyqt was paid?
2017-10-30T06:52:48.000135
Toby
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WxPython
2017-10-30T06:52:58.000029
Emily
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open source
2017-10-30T06:53:06.000194
Emily
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must have misread it
2017-10-30T06:53:15.000019
Toby
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PyGTK
2017-10-30T06:53:54.000439
Emily
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<https://insights.dice.com/2017/08/07/7-top-python-gui-frameworks-for-2017-2/> ```Conclusion This is a great set of frameworks that should cover most needs. All except PyQt are completely free.```
2017-10-30T06:53:58.000239
Toby
pythondev_help_Toby_2017-10-30T06:53:58.000239
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GTK is for GNome environment
2017-10-30T06:54:18.000456
Emily
pythondev_help_Emily_2017-10-30T06:54:18.000456
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There is some restriction on QT if you sell your product I believe
2017-10-30T06:54:33.000051
Ciera
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ah ok, so free for dev but paid for distribution? that sorta thing?
2017-10-30T06:54:51.000306
Toby
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