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Subject: Re: [labnetwork] launderable cleanroom clothing
At UW-Madison we have done something similar. We have a SS industrial washing machine hooked up to RO water and an industrial dryer with HEPA filter. We pay student hourlies to do the laundry, fold it, and put in gown room racks. With laundry detergent and student hourlies we are probably under $1K a year on garment logistics.
Best
Kurt
Kurt Kupcho
Materials Science Engineer
Nanoscale Fabrication Center (NFC)
University of Wisconsin
1550 Engineering Dr.
ECB 3110
Madison, WI 53706
E: kurt.kupcho at wisc.edu<mailto:kurt.kupcho at wisc.edu>
T: 608-262-2982
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From: labnetwork <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>> On Behalf Of Collins, Deon
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 9:03 AM
To: Dennis Schweiger <schweig at umich.edu<mailto:schweig at umich.edu>>; Fab Network <labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>>
Subject: Re: [labnetwork] launderable cleanroom clothing
Good Morning,
Holonyak lab used a cleaning service until 2021. It was never a good solution. We continually had item lost, damaged, mixed in with our returns and lost/damaged shipments. On top of that the manpower it took to manage the shipping deliveries and inventory moving around does not pay off. We ended up buying a quality top loader washer with a SS drum. We also ended up installing a small but effective RO on the water supply line, a bag sealer, properly sized bags, and a set of nice SS racks. We hang the cleanroom suites up to dry on the racking in the same space as our washer. Our washing machine is in a storage room which is within our clean room. As the garments a not porous there is little to no water, they dry quickly. We also bag them for storage till they are required for swap out. Our losses have gone to near zero and we feel there is a better product provided to our cleanroom users. As we already owned our garments it was a no brainier. Our lab assistants process the laundry in the evening. We were spending thousands just for laundry services a year. On top of that the loses, damages and shipping were all recouped in a matter of months. Granted you will need a little assistance from the staff but it is worth it.
Hope this helps.
Deon D. Collins
FACILITY MANAGER
The Grainger College Of Engineering UIUC
Holonyak Micro & Nanotechnology Lab
208 N Wright St Rm. 1114 \| MC-249
Urbana, IL 61801
217-300-7531 \| deonc69 at illinois.edu<mailto:deonc69 at illinois.edu>
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From: labnetwork <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>> On Behalf Of Dennis Schweiger
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 12:59 PM
To: Fab Network <labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>>
Subject: [labnetwork] launderable cleanroom clothing
Good afternoon all,
Here at the University of Michigan/LNF we've been using launderable garments for many years (Cintas is the provider). We've had mostly good success, and our vendor has helped us to incorporate a simple suit modification to allow for better identification of individuals when they are in full garb. As part of our due diligence for keeping costs under control, we'd be interested in comparing notes with other Universities that are also using an outside company to provide your laundry service. Currently our laundry costs run us about $52K/year and we're laundering roughly 500 pieces of clothing every week.
Thank you,
Dennis Schweiger
University of Michigan/LNF
734.647.2055 Ofc
"People can be divided into 3 groups - those that make things happen, those that watch things happen, and those that wonder what happened." Within which group do you belong?
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From olms0025 at umn.edu Fri Sep 22 12:25:50 2023
From: olms0025 at umn.edu (Brian K. Olmsted)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 11:25:50 -0500
Subject: [labnetwork] launderable cleanroom clothing
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That's an insightful way of looking at this.
Thank you,
Brian K. Olmsted
Associate Director of Laboratory Operations
University of Minnesota \| Minnesota Nano Center
cse.umn.edu/mnc
612.626.3287
olms0025 at umn.edu
On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 11:18?AM Collins, Deon <deonc69 at illinois.edu> wrote:
> It was a waste of money. A standard but quality washer with a stainless
> drum is more than sufficient unless you are doing thousands of garments a
> week. With an off the shelf washer, you can get parts anywhere and any
> local repair shop can handle it. I also looked at it this way. If a good
> whirlpool lasts you 5 years at 800$ your $ up. An industrial washer can
> cost you $6000 easy. At that price you could replace the washer every 5
> years and still be money up after 30 years. I would assume a good
> Maytag/Whirlpool/Kitchen Aid(all the same company) will last 10 years on RO
> water. DI water may shorten it life due to ION leaching in the plastics and
> seals.
>
>
>
> Deon D. Collins
>
>
> FACILITY MANAGER
>
> The Grainger College Of Engineering UIUC
> Holonyak Micro & Nanotechnology Lab
> 208 N Wright St Rm. 1114 \| MC-249
> Urbana, IL 61801

Subject: Re: [labnetwork] launderable cleanroom clothing

At UW-Madison we have done something similar. We have a SS industrial washing machine hooked up to RO water and an industrial dryer with HEPA filter. We pay student hourlies to do the laundry, fold it, and put in gown room racks. With laundry detergent and student hourlies we are probably under $1K a year on garment logistics.

Best

Kurt

Kurt Kupcho

Materials Science Engineer

Nanoscale Fabrication Center (NFC)

University of Wisconsin

1550 Engineering Dr.

ECB 3110

Madison, WI 53706

E: kurt.kupcho at wisc.edu<mailto:kurt.kupcho at wisc.edu>

T: 608-262-2982

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From: labnetwork <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>> On Behalf Of Collins, Deon

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 9:03 AM

To: Dennis Schweiger <schweig at umich.edu<mailto:schweig at umich.edu>>; Fab Network <labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>>

Subject: Re: [labnetwork] launderable cleanroom clothing

Good Morning,

Holonyak lab used a cleaning service until 2021. It was never a good solution. We continually had item lost, damaged, mixed in with our returns and lost/damaged shipments. On top of that the manpower it took to manage the shipping deliveries and inventory moving around does not pay off. We ended up buying a quality top loader washer with a SS drum. We also ended up installing a small but effective RO on the water supply line, a bag sealer, properly sized bags, and a set of nice SS racks. We hang the cleanroom suites up to dry on the racking in the same space as our washer. Our washing machine is in a storage room which is within our clean room. As the garments a not porous there is little to no water, they dry quickly. We also bag them for storage till they are required for swap out. Our losses have gone to near zero and we feel there is a better product provided to our cleanroom users. As we already owned our garments it was a no brainier. Our lab assistants process the laundry in the evening. We were spending thousands just for laundry services a year. On top of that the loses, damages and shipping were all recouped in a matter of months. Granted you will need a little assistance from the staff but it is worth it.

Hope this helps.

Deon D. Collins

FACILITY MANAGER

The Grainger College Of Engineering UIUC

Holonyak Micro & Nanotechnology Lab

208 N Wright St Rm. 1114 | MC-249

Urbana, IL 61801

217-300-7531 | deonc69 at illinois.edu<mailto:deonc69 at illinois.edu>

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From: labnetwork <labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork-bounces at mtl.mit.edu>> On Behalf Of Dennis Schweiger

Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 12:59 PM

To: Fab Network <labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu<mailto:labnetwork at mtl.mit.edu>>

Subject: [labnetwork] launderable cleanroom clothing

Good afternoon all,

Here at the University of Michigan/LNF we've been using launderable garments for many years (Cintas is the provider). We've had mostly good success, and our vendor has helped us to incorporate a simple suit modification to allow for better identification of individuals when they are in full garb. As part of our due diligence for keeping costs under control, we'd be interested in comparing notes with other Universities that are also using an outside company to provide your laundry service. Currently our laundry costs run us about $52K/year and we're laundering roughly 500 pieces of clothing every week.

Thank you,

Dennis Schweiger

University of Michigan/LNF

734.647.2055 Ofc

"People can be divided into 3 groups - those that make things happen, those that watch things happen, and those that wonder what happened." Within which group do you belong?

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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 11:25:50 -0500

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That's an insightful way of looking at this.

Thank you,

Brian K. Olmsted

Associate Director of Laboratory Operations

University of Minnesota | Minnesota Nano Center

cse.umn.edu/mnc

612.626.3287

olms0025 at umn.edu

On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 11:18?AM Collins, Deon <deonc69 at illinois.edu> wrote:

> It was a waste of money. A standard but quality washer with a stainless

> drum is more than sufficient unless you are doing thousands of garments a

> week. With an off the shelf washer, you can get parts anywhere and any

> local repair shop can handle it. I also looked at it this way. If a good

> whirlpool lasts you 5 years at 800$ your $ up. An industrial washer can

> cost you $6000 easy. At that price you could replace the washer every 5

> years and still be money up after 30 years. I would assume a good

> Maytag/Whirlpool/Kitchen Aid(all the same company) will last 10 years on RO

> water. DI water may shorten it life due to ION leaching in the plastics and

> seals.

>

> *Deon D. Collins*

>

> *FACILITY MANAGER*

>

> *The Grainger College Of Engineering UIUC*

> Holonyak Micro & Nanotechnology Lab

> 208 N Wright St Rm. 1114 | MC-249

> Urbana, IL 61801