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[00:00:01.33 -> 00:00:07.11] John: Welcome everybody to a brand new program on the pod show network which could be
[00:00:07.11 -> 00:00:11.83] John: titled a number of things we chose no agenda but it could be the show with no
[00:00:11.83 -> 00:00:20.09] John: imaging no no no content yet the only thing it is is two guys with an idea of
[00:00:20.09 -> 00:00:25.99] John: putting together a what should we call it John a agenda list show agenda list
[00:00:25.99 -> 00:00:32.73] Announcer: the show exactly uh john c devorak in california adam curry here in london something we cooked up
[00:00:32.73 -> 00:00:36.69] John: uh what was it like a four minute phone call hey we should do a show together okay
[00:00:37.27 -> 00:00:43.27] John: uh let's call it no agenda okay and here we are well of course the basis for a show like this uh
[00:00:43.27 -> 00:00:48.05] Unknown: and i think everybody out there who's ever had a kind of who has conversations with friends
[00:00:49.09 -> 00:00:53.31] Unknown: they occasionally especially when the conversations go on and on say you know that would have been an
[00:00:53.31 -> 00:00:59.51] Unknown: interesting thing for other people to listen to true true and and i think basically uh and i've
[00:00:59.51 -> 00:01:03.91] Unknown: in fact actually thought about doing a show with my wife because sometimes she does a news analysis
[00:01:03.91 -> 00:01:08.83] Unknown: over the phone sometimes it's pretty pretty astonishing have you ever heard the shows i do
[00:01:08.83 -> 00:01:13.99] Unknown: with patricia with my wife yeah same kind of thing it's great right we just have a conversation yeah
[00:01:13.99 -> 00:01:19.21] Unknown: right i think you know to some extent don and drew and so almost everybody who you know
[00:01:19.21 -> 00:01:27.45] Unknown: know like to chat yeah uh pretty much um provides this kind of entertainment so you know this week
[00:01:27.45 -> 00:01:32.93] Unknown: well i mean we're starting up we're running on skype for anybody out there so and adam being
[00:01:32.93 -> 00:01:36.43] Unknown: in london is going to probably going to we're going to step on each other once in a while
[00:01:36.43 -> 00:01:44.33] Unknown: but this week adam did a thing uh an interview with the senator or i guess he's a congressman
[00:01:44.33 -> 00:01:52.79] Unknown: yeah where's he from texas the texas congressman ron paul republican texas congressman ron paul
[00:01:52.79 -> 00:02:00.50] John: yeah yeah so what did you think well um so you know first of all it was kind of interesting
[00:02:00.50 -> 00:02:04.52] John: uh that i got this thing together in like a week and i didn't really have to do anything i just
[00:02:04.52 -> 00:02:09.54] John: said on the show i want to talk to this guy and it happened that that would that to me was a big uh
[00:02:09.54 -> 00:02:15.00] John: a big oh wow and I don't know what it means says about him his campaign or or my show or
[00:02:15.00 -> 00:02:19.54] John: podcasting or whatever alternative media in general but I thought that that was cool just as
[00:02:19.54 -> 00:02:28.01] John: it is um was he on skype no he was on a on a landline I I did it on skype though okay did
[00:02:28.01 -> 00:02:34.37] Unknown: you not like the quality no I was I was I was thinking he was on skype and I'm going to myself
[00:02:34.37 -> 00:02:37.79] Unknown: or thinking to myself, huh, that's pretty weird.
[00:02:37.83 -> 00:02:39.39] Unknown: If a guy's on Skype, then he's, you know,
[00:02:39.41 -> 00:02:43.95] Unknown: I just don't see congressmen as being that savvy about anything.
[00:02:44.33 -> 00:02:46.85] John: Yeah, and I asked him a couple questions, you know,
[00:02:46.85 -> 00:02:49.93] John: about net neutrality and some other Internet-related things,
[00:02:50.13 -> 00:02:52.39] John: and it's kind of hard to gauge how savvy he is.
[00:02:52.45 -> 00:02:54.89] John: First of all, he's a very smart guy in general, I mean,
[00:02:54.93 -> 00:02:59.15] John: and very, very, he's a good communicator,
[00:02:59.15 -> 00:03:03.31] John: knows how to be an interviewee.
[00:03:03.31 -> 00:03:13.93] John: I loved it when he, you know, you could hear his aide, it was probably Jesse, you know, whispering something in his ear, which actually wasn't a whisper because I heard it quite clearly.
[00:03:14.07 -> 00:03:18.49] John: And then, you know, and then Paul goes, Ron Paul goes, let me just suggest something else to you.
[00:03:18.57 -> 00:03:19.77] John: I have a couple more minutes.
[00:03:19.95 -> 00:03:20.95] John: I'm like, oh, fuck.
[00:03:21.71 -> 00:03:24.27] John: All right, let me get this folder scruncher in there real quick.
[00:03:27.05 -> 00:03:29.77] Unknown: Well, that's a shame that people have to do that all the time now.
[00:03:29.77 -> 00:03:35.11] Unknown: Now, so anyway, I made notes on the I listened to the the interview and I made a bunch of notes.
[00:03:35.25 -> 00:03:37.81] Unknown: OK, and I want to go over a few of them with you.
[00:03:37.83 -> 00:03:46.66] Unknown: Cool. One is your you insisted on calling him Dr. Ron as though he's like a disc jockey.
[00:03:46.84 -> 00:03:50.53] Unknown: I thought that was highly funny.
[00:03:50.67 -> 00:03:56.39] John: Well, I'm glad you'd like that because I like giving people names, you know, because we've got comic strip blogger.
[00:03:56.39 -> 00:04:02.61] John: we've got a prolific programmer and dr ron in fact all medical doctors who i who i meet i call
[00:04:02.61 -> 00:04:09.11] John: dr ron or doctor at least they not if they're pete i call him dr pete but um i'm glad you like
[00:04:09.11 -> 00:04:13.97] Unknown: that he didn't seem to mind well you know he told you to call him ron but you said i'm gonna
[00:04:13.97 -> 00:04:21.57] Unknown: i'd rather call you dr ron and he said whatever yeah but doesn't that sound much better you know
[00:04:21.57 -> 00:04:24.91] John: Dr. Ron, it's a German thing, actually.
[00:04:25.39 -> 00:04:28.63] John: If you are a professor or you're a doctor in Germany.
[00:04:28.65 -> 00:04:28.99] John: That's where you got that.
[00:04:30.01 -> 00:04:34.17] Unknown: Since people are going to start listening to this show, they might as well realize a couple of things here.
[00:04:34.23 -> 00:04:41.41] Unknown: One of them is that I'm an American, and Adam is technically an American, but he is a European.
[00:04:41.83 -> 00:04:47.55] Unknown: And so one of the reasons we want to do this show is so we can kind of bring some cultural togetherness out there.
[00:04:48.09 -> 00:04:50.45] Unknown: I'm a world citizen, John, not just a European.
[00:04:52.44 -> 00:04:52.70] Unknown: You're what?
[00:04:52.80 -> 00:04:53.72] Unknown: A world citizen.
[00:04:54.22 -> 00:04:55.04] Unknown: Yeah, a world citizen.
[00:04:55.10 -> 00:04:57.52] Unknown: That's what guys like you like to call yourselves.
[00:04:57.60 -> 00:04:57.86] Unknown: Yes.
[00:04:57.90 -> 00:04:58.18] Unknown: Yeah.
[00:04:58.80 -> 00:04:59.52] Unknown: Fuck you.
[00:05:00.10 -> 00:05:03.64] Unknown: Go to China and use that and see how far you get.
[00:05:03.82 -> 00:05:04.18] Unknown: Okay.
[00:05:06.12 -> 00:05:08.16] Unknown: So when they arrest you, that is.
[00:05:08.96 -> 00:05:11.80] Unknown: So anyway, so I got the biggest kick out of this, Dr. Ron.
[00:05:11.80 -> 00:05:13.62] Unknown: And you ran it through the whole show.
[00:05:13.72 -> 00:05:16.66] Unknown: You always, you know, when you brought his name, it was always Dr. Ron.
[00:05:16.68 -> 00:05:23.00] John: Well, yeah, but that's logical because I need, you know, because if and I watch a lot of interviews and a lot of things he's done.
[00:05:23.00 -> 00:05:29.46] John: And and people are always addressed. You know, everyone has a way to address someone in in the media landscape. Right.
[00:05:29.58 -> 00:05:33.98] John: And so with him, it's like Dr. Ron Paul, Congressman Paul.
[00:05:34.16 -> 00:05:38.10] John: You know, the whole Ron Paul, like two first names is kind of weird to start with.
[00:05:38.20 -> 00:05:45.38] John: So I just felt it would be easier if I just called him Dr. Ron, because then I knew I wouldn't be stumbling over Congressman Paul.
[00:05:45.58 -> 00:05:49.08] Unknown: You know, right, right, right. Yeah. The two first names thing.
[00:05:49.08 -> 00:05:54.16] Unknown: you know it's almost like a hollywood name from the 30s so anyway then the other thing i wrote
[00:05:54.16 -> 00:06:00.60] Unknown: down on this little notepad of mine was um people should go back there and listen to this interview
[00:06:00.60 -> 00:06:08.58] Unknown: uh again because adam i think he spends about four and a half hours kissing the guy's ass and
[00:06:08.58 -> 00:06:15.14] Unknown: chatting before he even lets paul speak one word yeah you know people mention that to me and and i'm
[00:06:15.14 -> 00:06:19.66] John: I'm like, and I'll bet they did, but you know, it's like, here's what I didn't do.
[00:06:19.72 -> 00:06:21.38] John: I didn't interrupt the guy continuously.
[00:06:21.68 -> 00:06:23.74] John: All I wanted was to just hear what he had to say.
[00:06:23.80 -> 00:06:27.54] John: We had agreed that, you know, I would just, you know, and that's what I wanted.
[00:06:27.62 -> 00:06:30.40] John: You know, it's like, okay, I'm going to throw something at you.
[00:06:30.44 -> 00:06:32.08] John: Talk about it until you stop talking.
[00:06:32.18 -> 00:06:33.90] John: So I figured I'd get on my talking up front.
[00:06:34.04 -> 00:06:37.78] John: I was very sincere by the way, about, uh, about what I said at the beginning.
[00:06:38.36 -> 00:06:40.96] John: Uh, and yeah, I meant that.
[00:06:41.66 -> 00:06:43.64] John: and also this guy
[00:06:43.64 -> 00:06:45.52] John: and it was very clear at the end
[00:06:45.52 -> 00:06:46.84] John: he doesn't know what my show is about
[00:06:46.84 -> 00:06:48.04] John: he doesn't know who I am
[00:06:48.04 -> 00:06:50.06] John: so I've got to give the guy a little bit of background
[00:06:50.06 -> 00:06:53.08] John: because you just can't count on anyone else to do that
[00:06:53.08 -> 00:06:54.22] John: that's why I did it
[00:06:56.04 -> 00:06:57.66] Unknown: I'm going to read from my notepad
[00:06:57.66 -> 00:06:59.40] Unknown: if you want to know what I wrote down
[00:06:59.40 -> 00:07:00.60] Unknown: as this was going on
[00:07:01.92 -> 00:07:03.82] Unknown: long ass kissing moment

[00:00:01.33 -> 00:00:07.11] John: Welcome everybody to a brand new program on the pod show network which could be

[00:00:07.11 -> 00:00:11.83] John: titled a number of things we chose no agenda but it could be the show with no

[00:00:11.83 -> 00:00:20.09] John: imaging no no no content yet the only thing it is is two guys with an idea of

[00:00:20.09 -> 00:00:25.99] John: putting together a what should we call it John a agenda list show agenda list

[00:00:25.99 -> 00:00:32.73] Announcer: the show exactly uh john c devorak in california adam curry here in london something we cooked up

[00:00:32.73 -> 00:00:36.69] John: uh what was it like a four minute phone call hey we should do a show together okay

[00:00:37.27 -> 00:00:43.27] John: uh let's call it no agenda okay and here we are well of course the basis for a show like this uh

[00:00:43.27 -> 00:00:48.05] Unknown: and i think everybody out there who's ever had a kind of who has conversations with friends

[00:00:49.09 -> 00:00:53.31] Unknown: they occasionally especially when the conversations go on and on say you know that would have been an

[00:00:53.31 -> 00:00:59.51] Unknown: interesting thing for other people to listen to true true and and i think basically uh and i've

[00:00:59.51 -> 00:01:03.91] Unknown: in fact actually thought about doing a show with my wife because sometimes she does a news analysis

[00:01:03.91 -> 00:01:08.83] Unknown: over the phone sometimes it's pretty pretty astonishing have you ever heard the shows i do

[00:01:08.83 -> 00:01:13.99] Unknown: with patricia with my wife yeah same kind of thing it's great right we just have a conversation yeah

[00:01:13.99 -> 00:01:19.21] Unknown: right i think you know to some extent don and drew and so almost everybody who you know

[00:01:19.21 -> 00:01:27.45] Unknown: know like to chat yeah uh pretty much um provides this kind of entertainment so you know this week

[00:01:27.45 -> 00:01:32.93] Unknown: well i mean we're starting up we're running on skype for anybody out there so and adam being

[00:01:32.93 -> 00:01:36.43] Unknown: in london is going to probably going to we're going to step on each other once in a while

[00:01:36.43 -> 00:01:44.33] Unknown: but this week adam did a thing uh an interview with the senator or i guess he's a congressman

[00:01:44.33 -> 00:01:52.79] Unknown: yeah where's he from texas the texas congressman ron paul republican texas congressman ron paul

[00:01:52.79 -> 00:02:00.50] John: yeah yeah so what did you think well um so you know first of all it was kind of interesting

[00:02:00.50 -> 00:02:04.52] John: uh that i got this thing together in like a week and i didn't really have to do anything i just

[00:02:04.52 -> 00:02:09.54] John: said on the show i want to talk to this guy and it happened that that would that to me was a big uh

[00:02:09.54 -> 00:02:15.00] John: a big oh wow and I don't know what it means says about him his campaign or or my show or

[00:02:15.00 -> 00:02:19.54] John: podcasting or whatever alternative media in general but I thought that that was cool just as

[00:02:19.54 -> 00:02:28.01] John: it is um was he on skype no he was on a on a landline I I did it on skype though okay did

[00:02:28.01 -> 00:02:34.37] Unknown: you not like the quality no I was I was I was thinking he was on skype and I'm going to myself

[00:02:34.37 -> 00:02:37.79] Unknown: or thinking to myself, huh, that's pretty weird.

[00:02:37.83 -> 00:02:39.39] Unknown: If a guy's on Skype, then he's, you know,

[00:02:39.41 -> 00:02:43.95] Unknown: I just don't see congressmen as being that savvy about anything.

[00:02:44.33 -> 00:02:46.85] John: Yeah, and I asked him a couple questions, you know,

[00:02:46.85 -> 00:02:49.93] John: about net neutrality and some other Internet-related things,

[00:02:50.13 -> 00:02:52.39] John: and it's kind of hard to gauge how savvy he is.

[00:02:52.45 -> 00:02:54.89] John: First of all, he's a very smart guy in general, I mean,

[00:02:54.93 -> 00:02:59.15] John: and very, very, he's a good communicator,

[00:02:59.15 -> 00:03:03.31] John: knows how to be an interviewee.

[00:03:03.31 -> 00:03:13.93] John: I loved it when he, you know, you could hear his aide, it was probably Jesse, you know, whispering something in his ear, which actually wasn't a whisper because I heard it quite clearly.

[00:03:14.07 -> 00:03:18.49] John: And then, you know, and then Paul goes, Ron Paul goes, let me just suggest something else to you.

[00:03:18.57 -> 00:03:19.77] John: I have a couple more minutes.

[00:03:19.95 -> 00:03:20.95] John: I'm like, oh, fuck.

[00:03:21.71 -> 00:03:24.27] John: All right, let me get this folder scruncher in there real quick.

[00:03:27.05 -> 00:03:29.77] Unknown: Well, that's a shame that people have to do that all the time now.

[00:03:29.77 -> 00:03:35.11] Unknown: Now, so anyway, I made notes on the I listened to the the interview and I made a bunch of notes.

[00:03:35.25 -> 00:03:37.81] Unknown: OK, and I want to go over a few of them with you.

[00:03:37.83 -> 00:03:46.66] Unknown: Cool. One is your you insisted on calling him Dr. Ron as though he's like a disc jockey.

[00:03:46.84 -> 00:03:50.53] Unknown: I thought that was highly funny.

[00:03:50.67 -> 00:03:56.39] John: Well, I'm glad you'd like that because I like giving people names, you know, because we've got comic strip blogger.

[00:03:56.39 -> 00:04:02.61] John: we've got a prolific programmer and dr ron in fact all medical doctors who i who i meet i call

[00:04:02.61 -> 00:04:09.11] John: dr ron or doctor at least they not if they're pete i call him dr pete but um i'm glad you like

[00:04:09.11 -> 00:04:13.97] Unknown: that he didn't seem to mind well you know he told you to call him ron but you said i'm gonna

[00:04:13.97 -> 00:04:21.57] Unknown: i'd rather call you dr ron and he said whatever yeah but doesn't that sound much better you know

[00:04:21.57 -> 00:04:24.91] John: Dr. Ron, it's a German thing, actually.

[00:04:25.39 -> 00:04:28.63] John: If you are a professor or you're a doctor in Germany.

[00:04:28.65 -> 00:04:28.99] John: That's where you got that.

[00:04:30.01 -> 00:04:34.17] Unknown: Since people are going to start listening to this show, they might as well realize a couple of things here.

[00:04:34.23 -> 00:04:41.41] Unknown: One of them is that I'm an American, and Adam is technically an American, but he is a European.

[00:04:41.83 -> 00:04:47.55] Unknown: And so one of the reasons we want to do this show is so we can kind of bring some cultural togetherness out there.

[00:04:48.09 -> 00:04:50.45] Unknown: I'm a world citizen, John, not just a European.

[00:04:52.44 -> 00:04:52.70] Unknown: You're what?

[00:04:52.80 -> 00:04:53.72] Unknown: A world citizen.

[00:04:54.22 -> 00:04:55.04] Unknown: Yeah, a world citizen.

[00:04:55.10 -> 00:04:57.52] Unknown: That's what guys like you like to call yourselves.

[00:04:57.60 -> 00:04:57.86] Unknown: Yes.

[00:04:57.90 -> 00:04:58.18] Unknown: Yeah.

[00:04:58.80 -> 00:04:59.52] Unknown: Fuck you.

[00:05:00.10 -> 00:05:03.64] Unknown: Go to China and use that and see how far you get.

[00:05:03.82 -> 00:05:04.18] Unknown: Okay.

[00:05:06.12 -> 00:05:08.16] Unknown: So when they arrest you, that is.

[00:05:08.96 -> 00:05:11.80] Unknown: So anyway, so I got the biggest kick out of this, Dr. Ron.

[00:05:11.80 -> 00:05:13.62] Unknown: And you ran it through the whole show.

[00:05:13.72 -> 00:05:16.66] Unknown: You always, you know, when you brought his name, it was always Dr. Ron.

[00:05:16.68 -> 00:05:23.00] John: Well, yeah, but that's logical because I need, you know, because if and I watch a lot of interviews and a lot of things he's done.

[00:05:23.00 -> 00:05:29.46] John: And and people are always addressed. You know, everyone has a way to address someone in in the media landscape. Right.

[00:05:29.58 -> 00:05:33.98] John: And so with him, it's like Dr. Ron Paul, Congressman Paul.

[00:05:34.16 -> 00:05:38.10] John: You know, the whole Ron Paul, like two first names is kind of weird to start with.

[00:05:38.20 -> 00:05:45.38] John: So I just felt it would be easier if I just called him Dr. Ron, because then I knew I wouldn't be stumbling over Congressman Paul.

[00:05:45.58 -> 00:05:49.08] Unknown: You know, right, right, right. Yeah. The two first names thing.

[00:05:49.08 -> 00:05:54.16] Unknown: you know it's almost like a hollywood name from the 30s so anyway then the other thing i wrote

[00:05:54.16 -> 00:06:00.60] Unknown: down on this little notepad of mine was um people should go back there and listen to this interview

[00:06:00.60 -> 00:06:08.58] Unknown: uh again because adam i think he spends about four and a half hours kissing the guy's ass and

[00:06:08.58 -> 00:06:15.14] Unknown: chatting before he even lets paul speak one word yeah you know people mention that to me and and i'm

[00:06:15.14 -> 00:06:19.66] John: I'm like, and I'll bet they did, but you know, it's like, here's what I didn't do.

[00:06:19.72 -> 00:06:21.38] John: I didn't interrupt the guy continuously.

[00:06:21.68 -> 00:06:23.74] John: All I wanted was to just hear what he had to say.

[00:06:23.80 -> 00:06:27.54] John: We had agreed that, you know, I would just, you know, and that's what I wanted.

[00:06:27.62 -> 00:06:30.40] John: You know, it's like, okay, I'm going to throw something at you.

[00:06:30.44 -> 00:06:32.08] John: Talk about it until you stop talking.

[00:06:32.18 -> 00:06:33.90] John: So I figured I'd get on my talking up front.

[00:06:34.04 -> 00:06:37.78] John: I was very sincere by the way, about, uh, about what I said at the beginning.

[00:06:38.36 -> 00:06:40.96] John: Uh, and yeah, I meant that.

[00:06:41.66 -> 00:06:43.64] John: and also this guy

[00:06:43.64 -> 00:06:45.52] John: and it was very clear at the end

[00:06:45.52 -> 00:06:46.84] John: he doesn't know what my show is about

[00:06:46.84 -> 00:06:48.04] John: he doesn't know who I am

[00:06:48.04 -> 00:06:50.06] John: so I've got to give the guy a little bit of background

[00:06:50.06 -> 00:06:53.08] John: because you just can't count on anyone else to do that

[00:06:53.08 -> 00:06:54.22] John: that's why I did it

[00:06:56.04 -> 00:06:57.66] Unknown: I'm going to read from my notepad

[00:06:57.66 -> 00:06:59.40] Unknown: if you want to know what I wrote down

[00:06:59.40 -> 00:07:00.60] Unknown: as this was going on

[00:07:01.92 -> 00:07:03.82] Unknown: long ass kissing moment