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[00:14:28.94 -> 00:14:29.28] Unknown: Okay.
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[00:14:29.28 -> 00:14:47.28] John: OK, so that was the Second Amendment question, which I actually felt he answered really well and responded kind of the way I'd expected when I said, well, you know, do we have to defend ourselves from internal dangers yet?
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[00:14:47.36 -> 00:14:49.26] John: And he's like, well, that's what I'm trying to avoid.
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[00:14:50.92 -> 00:14:58.72] Unknown: Yeah, I noticed that. Yeah, he's he's he's like an inch away from thinking it might be something to think about.
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[00:14:58.72 -> 00:15:00.16] Unknown: But we don't have cannons anymore.
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[00:15:00.92 -> 00:15:02.54] John: No, they've been taken away.
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[00:15:02.72 -> 00:15:06.42] John: And by the way, I have stuff that's a pretty powerful mojo.
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[00:15:08.11 -> 00:15:08.55] Unknown: Yeah?
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[00:15:08.67 -> 00:15:10.89] Unknown: Yeah, I got a Japanese machine gun.
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[00:15:13.72 -> 00:15:18.10] John: I have no bullets, but I got the machine gun.
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[00:15:18.86 -> 00:15:20.44] Unknown: It's got a bayonet on it.
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[00:15:22.01 -> 00:15:23.69] Unknown: A machine gun with a bayonet?
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[00:15:23.87 -> 00:15:24.89] Unknown: Yeah, it's really weird.
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[00:15:25.01 -> 00:15:26.61] Unknown: It's not a stationary machine gun.
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[00:15:26.61 -> 00:15:28.93] Unknown: It's the one you carry around like a Tommy gun?
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[00:15:28.93 -> 00:15:36.35] John: Yeah, you have a tripod. It kind of folds out. There's a tripod on the front, and then there's like a stick thing in the back, and it's a belt-fed system.
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[00:15:36.43 -> 00:15:40.55] John: My grandfather took out a machine nest in the South Pacific and brought it home in pieces.
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[00:15:41.62 -> 00:15:42.04] Unknown: Huh.
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[00:15:42.24 -> 00:15:42.62] Unknown: Yeah.
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[00:15:44.16 -> 00:15:52.40] Unknown: So anyway, that was fascinating. So then you got him into the thoughtful pregnancy story.
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[00:15:52.96 -> 00:15:53.60] Unknown: Wow, yeah.
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[00:15:54.55 -> 00:15:56.77] Unknown: That was interesting. I thought that was quite good.
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[00:15:56.77 -> 00:16:05.19] John: well the so my takeaway from that was that um yes so with right comes responsibility i guess
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[00:16:05.19 -> 00:16:13.07] John: is what he's saying and even the unborn fetus has a right to life so you have no right to remove that
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[00:16:13.07 -> 00:16:18.71] John: even though you have the right the the the right to add put into or remove anything you want from
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[00:16:18.71 -> 00:16:26.07] John: your body but not if you kill and what he's saying is another human being uh therefore um you need to
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[00:16:26.07 -> 00:16:29.69] John: To respect your responsibility for having sex, which I thought was okay.
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[00:16:30.93 -> 00:16:32.59] John: Some kind of point is made there.
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[00:16:32.75 -> 00:16:45.19] John: But then he kind of gave an out, which I thought was interesting by saying, well, you know, if you can't prove a crime was committed, i.e., if you terminate a pregnancy, I don't know, like first trimester or whatever.
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[00:16:45.35 -> 00:16:47.19] John: If you can't prove it, then you can't prove it.
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[00:16:47.27 -> 00:16:49.33] John: So that was kind of his out, which was weird.
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[00:16:49.55 -> 00:16:52.93] John: It seemed to me like he was talking a lot about late-term pregnancy.
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[00:16:52.93 -> 00:16:56.31] John: And I'm sure this goes deep into the whole Roe versus Wade.
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[00:16:56.43 -> 00:16:58.47] John: My head hurts just thinking about it.
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[00:16:58.49 -> 00:17:00.15] John: I don't know if we can actually resolve this.
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[00:17:00.93 -> 00:17:05.23] Unknown: Well, you know, I thought it was interesting because he didn't take it from a religious perspective.
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[00:17:05.69 -> 00:17:07.15] Unknown: Even though he is very religious.
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[00:17:07.81 -> 00:17:10.81] Unknown: Yeah, well, I mean, he's obviously re-engineered his thinking.
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[00:17:11.11 -> 00:17:18.37] Unknown: But I've never heard anyone actually, I don't know why, maybe I'm not listening, which is possible.
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[00:17:18.67 -> 00:17:22.39] Unknown: I don't know anyone who's actually, he took it from a constitutional perspective.
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[00:17:23.15 -> 00:17:29.21] Unknown: that this, you know, person which exists at some point has constitutional rights.
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[00:17:29.27 -> 00:17:30.33] Unknown: It's got nothing to do with religion.
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[00:17:30.81 -> 00:17:33.83] Unknown: And if we're going to, you know, be strict constitutionalists,
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[00:17:33.83 -> 00:17:36.45] Unknown: we have to give them their rights even though they're inside some woman.
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[00:17:36.59 -> 00:17:39.13] John: Right. Well, that was what I asked him to do, of course.
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[00:17:39.23 -> 00:17:42.29] John: You know, talk about each issue and take it down to the Constitution,
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[00:17:42.53 -> 00:17:44.51] John: which is what he's running on as far as, you know, that's it.
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[00:17:44.63 -> 00:17:46.93] John: It's like he just every – and you know what, John?
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[00:17:47.05 -> 00:17:49.67] John: I don't see anyone – I look at these debates.
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[00:17:49.77 -> 00:17:52.41] John: I don't see anyone challenging him, what he said.
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[00:17:52.41 -> 00:18:00.63] John: He says some pretty radical and opposing things to the GOP debate, but no one ever calls him on it.
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[00:18:00.67 -> 00:18:05.05] John: He just says these amazing things and draws it right down to the Constitution.
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[00:18:05.29 -> 00:18:07.99] John: Everyone's like, OK, might as well shut up because you can't argue it.
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[00:18:09.40 -> 00:18:12.96] Unknown: Yeah, I think they're doing their best to marginalize the guy.
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[00:18:13.02 -> 00:18:13.86] Unknown: They don't need a guy like that.
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[00:18:13.90 -> 00:18:15.38] Unknown: Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.
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[00:18:15.40 -> 00:18:15.68] Unknown: I agree.
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[00:18:17.14 -> 00:18:22.00] Unknown: Now, the other one that was interesting, which we talked about before you had the interview, which was the Ralph Nader.
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[00:18:22.32 -> 00:18:23.34] Unknown: Yeah, that was your idea.
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[00:18:23.34 -> 00:18:24.80] Unknown: You heard I got it in there, right?
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[00:18:25.40 -> 00:18:25.74] Unknown: Yeah.
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[00:18:26.34 -> 00:18:30.46] Unknown: And he avoided it, claiming that it had nothing to do with it.
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[00:18:30.66 -> 00:18:33.22] John: Well, he said, no, he said, I wrote it down.
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[00:18:34.26 -> 00:18:35.12] John: I don't know.
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[00:18:35.22 -> 00:18:37.08] John: For personal reasons is what he said.
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[00:18:37.22 -> 00:18:39.30] John: And then he said, you know, it would just be too much energy.
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[00:18:40.04 -> 00:18:40.96] John: I've tried it before.
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[00:18:41.42 -> 00:18:42.26] John: It won't work.
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[00:18:42.46 -> 00:18:46.42] John: You know, he says, if I'm not running Republican, then I can't even get into these types of debates.
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[00:18:46.92 -> 00:18:51.26] John: It sounded, you know, and I even said, like, you know, this is a 72-year-old guy.
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[00:18:51.26 -> 00:18:56.42] John: You know, he knows that running as an independent, unless you have, I don't think he actually locked it out,
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[00:18:56.50 -> 00:19:01.44] John: but unless you have some kind of incredible groundswell, which is just unbelievable, you know,
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[00:19:01.44 -> 00:19:06.56] John: I'm sure he could be convinced if it was very clear that he actually had a shot at winning as an independent.
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[00:19:08.31 -> 00:19:11.49] Unknown: Yeah, he's done the homework.
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[00:19:11.69 -> 00:19:19.07] Unknown: He knows that, you know, in the past, the closest anyone's ever come is Teddy Roosevelt ran under the Bull Moose Party.
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[00:19:19.07 -> 00:19:26.45] Unknown: not really a great name for a party uh and then of course um we had ralph nader more recently and
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[00:19:26.45 -> 00:19:32.87] Unknown: then uh ross perot had a shot but ross kind of drove himself out of the election because he felt
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[00:19:32.87 -> 00:19:38.33] Unknown: that you know somebody he claims that somebody came up knocked on his door and showed him
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[00:19:38.33 -> 00:19:45.03] Unknown: photos or something i mean he has this weird story that he's never really yeah i remember that yeah
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[00:19:45.03 -> 00:19:45.59] John: Yeah, I do remember.
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[00:19:45.75 -> 00:19:48.41] John: He was like, you know, I got to protect my family and my privacy.
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[00:19:48.59 -> 00:19:49.65] John: And wasn't that it?
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[00:19:49.69 -> 00:19:49.91] John: Didn't he?
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[00:19:50.71 -> 00:19:52.97] Unknown: Yeah, there was something somebody knocked on the door.
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[00:19:52.99 -> 00:19:53.29] Unknown: Yeah.
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[00:19:53.41 -> 00:19:57.69] Unknown: And it sounds like a government agency that said, look, get out of this thing, because
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[00:19:57.69 -> 00:19:59.29] Unknown: here's what's going to happen if you don't.
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[00:19:59.29 -> 00:19:59.51] Unknown: Yeah.
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[00:20:00.00 -> 00:20:29.68] John: Threatened him yeah somebody which you know may or may not be true it's possible it could have been a bluff could have been any number of things but uh well either way he didn't deserve to be president because if you're gonna pussy out because of that then I'm sorry you know that's a that's the job that uh you know you you can be killed if you have that job no doubt about it you got to know that going in so and if he copped out yeah if he copped out by actually I was gonna ask him that I fucking I didn't get to it I wanted to ask him if he feared for his life
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[00:20:30.36 -> 00:20:39.22] John: you know, because he has such opposing and sometimes viewed as radical viewpoints or people see that as radical or, you know.
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[00:20:39.24 -> 00:20:42.68] John: And if he actually catches the worst thing, of course, is, you know, the shit's working.
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[00:20:42.80 -> 00:20:56.71] John: So I was going to ask him if he was worried about his own personal safety as, you know, he's basically gaining traction and, you know, could obscure other people from from all the attention.
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[00:20:58.36 -> 00:20:59.82] Unknown: That would have been a good question.
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[00:20:59.98 -> 00:21:00.30] Unknown: Yeah.
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[00:21:00.64 -> 00:21:01.12] Unknown: Sorry.
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[00:21:01.38 -> 00:21:06.30] Unknown: i think everybody out there should uh what's okay i don't think he's got that much traction
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[00:21:06.30 -> 00:21:10.50] Unknown: i think uh people out there should if you want to read something interesting especially the
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[00:21:10.50 -> 00:21:17.24] Unknown: european audience uh read confessions of an economic hitman a kind of an interesting uh
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[00:21:17.24 -> 00:21:24.83] Unknown: tale we don't know whether how much of it's true or not but it has uh a lot of uh so many elements
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[00:21:24.83 -> 00:21:30.13] Unknown: of truth that it's a very interesting book to say the least it's also available on tape
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