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[00:07:06.60 -> 00:07:07.70] Unknown: and then
[00:07:07.70 -> 00:07:09.30] Unknown: the next line is
[00:07:09.30 -> 00:07:11.82] Unknown: is when does Paul actually talk?
[00:07:14.18 -> 00:07:15.98] Unknown: It was only two minutes.
[00:07:17.76 -> 00:07:20.18] Unknown: Well, two minutes, you know, could be an eternity.
[00:07:20.18 -> 00:07:20.78] Unknown: Well, I'm sorry.
[00:07:20.94 -> 00:07:22.32] Unknown: I could have gotten your question in.
[00:07:23.26 -> 00:07:25.50] Unknown: So anyway, by the way, you got my questions in.
[00:07:25.64 -> 00:07:28.58] Unknown: Now, the thing that I admire about this interview,
[00:07:28.70 -> 00:07:35.38] Unknown: and you're probably not aware of the fact that this was an amazing thing that you did,
[00:07:35.52 -> 00:07:38.34] Unknown: only because nobody ever does it.
[00:07:38.34 -> 00:07:43.94] Unknown: But and it's kind of on the one hand, it's like, you know, kind of a grammar school question.
[00:07:44.16 -> 00:07:47.70] Unknown: And the other hand is like a question is never asked enough.
[00:07:47.78 -> 00:07:51.78] Unknown: And it's interesting to have somebody from his position explain it.
[00:07:51.86 -> 00:08:03.33] Unknown: And that's when you you ask the question like what in so far as Paul's concerned or what is he or you had Paul explain what's the difference between a democracy and a republic?
[00:08:03.49 -> 00:08:07.41] Unknown: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I thought that was an educational moment.
[00:08:08.07 -> 00:08:10.17] Unknown: I didn't like the way he explained it, actually.
[00:08:11.62 -> 00:08:13.34] John: Did you think he did a good job on that?
[00:08:13.50 -> 00:08:20.44] John: Yeah, he was correct, but I was really looking for an even simpler answer, quite honestly, or a short, I don't know.
[00:08:20.54 -> 00:08:30.24] John: To me, it was like, okay, yeah, you explained it, but people who don't understand even the fact that America is a republic, I don't think it hit the mark entirely.
[00:08:30.46 -> 00:08:33.18] John: But that is exactly what I intended to do, John.
[00:08:33.24 -> 00:08:34.92] John: If I want to debate the guy, I mean, that's easy.
[00:08:34.96 -> 00:08:36.32] John: I can debate the guy all day long.
[00:08:36.32 -> 00:08:53.14] John: I think that is, you know, what people are saying. Oh, well, it was a good interview. You know, I learned a lot, but wasn't really explosive. You know, that's exactly what mainstream media tries to do is tries to pull someone out, you know, catch him on his words, get him to say something stupid and then, you know, make it a headline. I just wanted to hear the guy talk.
[00:08:53.14 -> 00:09:02.24] Unknown: Yeah, no, I actually thought that was a great move. It was something I've never seen anybody do. So that was good.
[00:09:02.96 -> 00:09:03.44] Unknown: Thank you.
[00:09:03.44 -> 00:09:06.24] Unknown: No, there was a bring back troops thing.
[00:09:07.31 -> 00:09:09.09] Unknown: There was a Cassius Clay.
[00:09:09.53 -> 00:09:11.55] Unknown: Oh, no, the armed militia.
[00:09:11.55 -> 00:09:15.73] Unknown: This was interesting to me because it brought the Cassius Clay thing is my notes.
[00:09:17.38 -> 00:09:26.62] Unknown: There was a Paul was talking about how, you know, we're Americans by right are supposed to be armed to the teeth.
[00:09:26.66 -> 00:09:26.94] Unknown: Right.
[00:09:27.22 -> 00:09:28.50] Unknown: For whatever reason.
[00:09:28.82 -> 00:09:32.32] Unknown: And I'm reminded me of an anecdote that was interesting.
[00:09:33.28 -> 00:09:46.72] Unknown: Because when people bring up gun control and things like that, and I'm not a gun control advocate or a non-advocate, I have to say I do like shooting guns, and I have a lot of friends that have collections and will go out to a range and shoot.
[00:09:46.92 -> 00:09:48.50] Unknown: Yeah, and it turns you on, doesn't it, John?
[00:09:49.08 -> 00:09:52.50] Unknown: No, it doesn't, actually. It doesn't turn me on, but it's a lot of fun.
[00:09:52.64 -> 00:09:52.90] Unknown: Okay.
[00:09:53.26 -> 00:09:56.12] Unknown: Anyway, so I'm not like an arsonist.
[00:09:56.12 -> 00:09:59.62] Unknown: Anyway, so I visited.
[00:10:00.00 -> 00:10:00.68] Unknown: The uh...
[00:10:01.10 -> 00:10:04.04] Unknown: the mansion or the former mansion of the uh...
[00:10:05.37 -> 00:10:07.63] Unknown: anti-ballot or the civil war uh...
[00:10:07.63 -> 00:10:08.93] Unknown: I guess he was a uh...
[00:10:08.93 -> 00:10:11.61] Unknown: a state officer Cassius Clay
[00:10:11.61 -> 00:10:14.09] Unknown: who was uh... Henry Clay's I think his brother
[00:10:14.09 -> 00:10:16.91] Unknown: and Cassius Clay had this
[00:10:16.91 -> 00:10:20.83] Unknown: place out in outside uh... I think it's outside of Lexington Kentucky
[00:10:21.53 -> 00:10:23.49] Unknown: people are going to start writing do you don't know anything
[00:10:23.87 -> 00:10:25.73] Unknown: but I think it's outside of Lexington
[00:10:25.73 -> 00:10:29.33] Unknown: so I went in there and Cassius Clay is this very famous senator
[00:10:29.33 -> 00:10:38.23] Unknown: senator and he um uh one time had a cannon apparently and he was an abolitionist which
[00:10:38.23 -> 00:10:44.47] Unknown: was not popular in the area and so they tried to like fuck with him uh and the locals and so
[00:10:44.47 -> 00:10:50.57] Unknown: and including the sheriff and the local police and he had a cannon in front of his house that
[00:10:50.57 -> 00:10:56.89] Unknown: he'd fill with uh shrapnel and when they came to you know either get him or arrest him or harass
[00:10:56.89 -> 00:10:59.41] Unknown: them or whatever they were going to do, he'd shoot it at them.
[00:11:00.97 -> 00:11:04.57] Unknown: Which was his Second Amendment right to being exercised.
[00:11:05.23 -> 00:11:05.63] Unknown: Exactly.
[00:11:06.19 -> 00:11:08.43] Unknown: And, you know, eventually they stopped coming over.
[00:11:09.13 -> 00:11:10.85] Unknown: And he needed to do that.
[00:11:10.89 -> 00:11:15.29] Unknown: Otherwise, you know, bad things were going to happen to him, no thanks to the local authorities.
[00:11:16.07 -> 00:11:20.05] Unknown: And I've always thought that was like, you know, people moan and groan about it.
[00:11:20.09 -> 00:11:21.45] Unknown: It's all weapons, all the rest.
[00:11:21.63 -> 00:11:24.69] Unknown: This guy has like a cannon that he's shooting.
[00:11:24.69 -> 00:11:30.35] Unknown: And so I'm always thinking back on that, like, what would have happened if you didn't have the canon?
[00:11:30.53 -> 00:11:33.61] John: So I think there's lots of modern-day analogies to that story.
[00:11:35.69 -> 00:11:38.55] Unknown: None that I can think of, but yeah, there probably are.
[00:11:40.41 -> 00:11:50.92] Unknown: Now, by the way, the funny story about the Cassius Clay house, you know, and Cassius Clay, of course, is who Muhammad Ali was.
[00:11:50.92 -> 00:11:52.52] Unknown: Yeah, named himself after, right?
[00:11:52.52 -> 00:11:58.50] Unknown: name no no he named himself muhammad ali he was born he was born cassius clay oh okay because
[00:11:58.50 -> 00:12:06.96] Unknown: most of the uh a lot of well you know as a lot of uh famous blacks were named after famous whites
[00:12:06.96 -> 00:12:12.38] Unknown: or i mean i'm sorry a lot of black slaves were named after famous whites and became a tradition
[00:12:12.38 -> 00:12:17.56] Unknown: in the black community to name people after famous people okay and so cassius clay was named after
[00:12:17.56 -> 00:12:23.26] Unknown: this guy now the kicker and anybody who happens to be in the area of lexington should go check
[00:12:23.26 -> 00:12:28.52] Unknown: out this this is actually a very interesting place because for one thing there's a uh a bunch of
[00:12:28.52 -> 00:12:35.32] Unknown: little like busts that showed for example his sister's uh clothes and that these some of these
[00:12:35.32 -> 00:12:42.52] Unknown: people during that era in the 1850s were if they were four seven it was a miracle especially the
[00:12:42.52 -> 00:12:49.66] Unknown: women they weren't getting a lot of vitamin b and his his his wife was obviously a she was a uh
[00:12:49.66 -> 00:12:53.82] Unknown: not his wife i'm sorry i think it was a sister this has been years ago when i was over there
[00:12:53.82 -> 00:12:58.70] Unknown: his sister was and i should obviously read something before i do these interviews or these
[00:12:58.70 -> 00:13:06.50] Unknown: just show with you um why ruin the spontaneity huh yeah right i'm waiting for the eta on this
[00:13:06.50 -> 00:13:14.56] Unknown: point you're about to make i'm getting there so anyway the it's a long road anyway so his sis his
[00:13:14.56 -> 00:13:21.48] Unknown: sister was a woman you know activist when you start to see the pictures of her and all her
[00:13:21.48 -> 00:13:27.26] Unknown: friends you could tell she was kind of um she was a lesbian it was kind of amusing but anyway the
[00:13:27.26 -> 00:13:32.54] Unknown: story i'm trying to get to but she was like four foot two or something they had a like a thing of
[00:13:32.54 -> 00:13:35.96] Unknown: you know like where the clothes she wore she couldn't have been bigger than a 12 year old
[00:13:35.96 -> 00:13:37.44] Unknown: I bet you had a huge-ass cannon.
[00:13:38.45 -> 00:13:39.35] Unknown: She might have.
[00:13:39.91 -> 00:13:53.77] Unknown: Anyway, so I'm looking around this house, and there is a newspaper article about a famous African who came to visit Kentucky, and he visited the house, and he met with Cassius Clay.
[00:13:54.39 -> 00:13:56.21] Unknown: And his name was Muhammad Ali.
[00:13:57.18 -> 00:13:57.66] Unknown: Wow.
[00:13:58.48 -> 00:13:59.64] Unknown: Yeah, that's what I thought.
[00:13:59.80 -> 00:14:01.18] Unknown: And so I said, wow, that's cool.
[00:14:01.18 -> 00:14:09.10] Unknown: And now I'm thinking that Cassius Clay himself, the boxer, may, you know, because he'd heard the story and he named himself Muhammad Ali.
[00:14:09.52 -> 00:14:14.48] Unknown: He may have actually visited this museum and saw that name.
[00:14:14.62 -> 00:14:15.52] Unknown: That's a cool name.
[00:14:15.70 -> 00:14:18.90] Unknown: Because there's a weird connection there that's never been explained to me.
[00:14:20.26 -> 00:14:21.12] Unknown: That's the story.
[00:14:21.24 -> 00:14:23.96] Unknown: Oh, John, I am so happy you told me that story.
[00:14:24.56 -> 00:14:28.68] Unknown: Well, the funny thing about that, anyway, your interview triggered my thoughts on that story.

[00:07:06.60 -> 00:07:07.70] Unknown: and then

[00:07:07.70 -> 00:07:09.30] Unknown: the next line is

[00:07:09.30 -> 00:07:11.82] Unknown: is when does Paul actually talk?

[00:07:14.18 -> 00:07:15.98] Unknown: It was only two minutes.

[00:07:17.76 -> 00:07:20.18] Unknown: Well, two minutes, you know, could be an eternity.

[00:07:20.18 -> 00:07:20.78] Unknown: Well, I'm sorry.

[00:07:20.94 -> 00:07:22.32] Unknown: I could have gotten your question in.

[00:07:23.26 -> 00:07:25.50] Unknown: So anyway, by the way, you got my questions in.

[00:07:25.64 -> 00:07:28.58] Unknown: Now, the thing that I admire about this interview,

[00:07:28.70 -> 00:07:35.38] Unknown: and you're probably not aware of the fact that this was an amazing thing that you did,

[00:07:35.52 -> 00:07:38.34] Unknown: only because nobody ever does it.

[00:07:38.34 -> 00:07:43.94] Unknown: But and it's kind of on the one hand, it's like, you know, kind of a grammar school question.

[00:07:44.16 -> 00:07:47.70] Unknown: And the other hand is like a question is never asked enough.

[00:07:47.78 -> 00:07:51.78] Unknown: And it's interesting to have somebody from his position explain it.

[00:07:51.86 -> 00:08:03.33] Unknown: And that's when you you ask the question like what in so far as Paul's concerned or what is he or you had Paul explain what's the difference between a democracy and a republic?

[00:08:03.49 -> 00:08:07.41] Unknown: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I thought that was an educational moment.

[00:08:08.07 -> 00:08:10.17] Unknown: I didn't like the way he explained it, actually.

[00:08:11.62 -> 00:08:13.34] John: Did you think he did a good job on that?

[00:08:13.50 -> 00:08:20.44] John: Yeah, he was correct, but I was really looking for an even simpler answer, quite honestly, or a short, I don't know.

[00:08:20.54 -> 00:08:30.24] John: To me, it was like, okay, yeah, you explained it, but people who don't understand even the fact that America is a republic, I don't think it hit the mark entirely.

[00:08:30.46 -> 00:08:33.18] John: But that is exactly what I intended to do, John.

[00:08:33.24 -> 00:08:34.92] John: If I want to debate the guy, I mean, that's easy.

[00:08:34.96 -> 00:08:36.32] John: I can debate the guy all day long.

[00:08:36.32 -> 00:08:53.14] John: I think that is, you know, what people are saying. Oh, well, it was a good interview. You know, I learned a lot, but wasn't really explosive. You know, that's exactly what mainstream media tries to do is tries to pull someone out, you know, catch him on his words, get him to say something stupid and then, you know, make it a headline. I just wanted to hear the guy talk.

[00:08:53.14 -> 00:09:02.24] Unknown: Yeah, no, I actually thought that was a great move. It was something I've never seen anybody do. So that was good.

[00:09:02.96 -> 00:09:03.44] Unknown: Thank you.

[00:09:03.44 -> 00:09:06.24] Unknown: No, there was a bring back troops thing.

[00:09:07.31 -> 00:09:09.09] Unknown: There was a Cassius Clay.

[00:09:09.53 -> 00:09:11.55] Unknown: Oh, no, the armed militia.

[00:09:11.55 -> 00:09:15.73] Unknown: This was interesting to me because it brought the Cassius Clay thing is my notes.

[00:09:17.38 -> 00:09:26.62] Unknown: There was a Paul was talking about how, you know, we're Americans by right are supposed to be armed to the teeth.

[00:09:26.66 -> 00:09:26.94] Unknown: Right.

[00:09:27.22 -> 00:09:28.50] Unknown: For whatever reason.

[00:09:28.82 -> 00:09:32.32] Unknown: And I'm reminded me of an anecdote that was interesting.

[00:09:33.28 -> 00:09:46.72] Unknown: Because when people bring up gun control and things like that, and I'm not a gun control advocate or a non-advocate, I have to say I do like shooting guns, and I have a lot of friends that have collections and will go out to a range and shoot.

[00:09:46.92 -> 00:09:48.50] Unknown: Yeah, and it turns you on, doesn't it, John?

[00:09:49.08 -> 00:09:52.50] Unknown: No, it doesn't, actually. It doesn't turn me on, but it's a lot of fun.

[00:09:52.64 -> 00:09:52.90] Unknown: Okay.

[00:09:53.26 -> 00:09:56.12] Unknown: Anyway, so I'm not like an arsonist.

[00:09:56.12 -> 00:09:59.62] Unknown: Anyway, so I visited.

[00:10:00.00 -> 00:10:00.68] Unknown: The uh...

[00:10:01.10 -> 00:10:04.04] Unknown: the mansion or the former mansion of the uh...

[00:10:05.37 -> 00:10:07.63] Unknown: anti-ballot or the civil war uh...

[00:10:07.63 -> 00:10:08.93] Unknown: I guess he was a uh...

[00:10:08.93 -> 00:10:11.61] Unknown: a state officer Cassius Clay

[00:10:11.61 -> 00:10:14.09] Unknown: who was uh... Henry Clay's I think his brother

[00:10:14.09 -> 00:10:16.91] Unknown: and Cassius Clay had this

[00:10:16.91 -> 00:10:20.83] Unknown: place out in outside uh... I think it's outside of Lexington Kentucky

[00:10:21.53 -> 00:10:23.49] Unknown: people are going to start writing do you don't know anything

[00:10:23.87 -> 00:10:25.73] Unknown: but I think it's outside of Lexington

[00:10:25.73 -> 00:10:29.33] Unknown: so I went in there and Cassius Clay is this very famous senator

[00:10:29.33 -> 00:10:38.23] Unknown: senator and he um uh one time had a cannon apparently and he was an abolitionist which

[00:10:38.23 -> 00:10:44.47] Unknown: was not popular in the area and so they tried to like fuck with him uh and the locals and so

[00:10:44.47 -> 00:10:50.57] Unknown: and including the sheriff and the local police and he had a cannon in front of his house that

[00:10:50.57 -> 00:10:56.89] Unknown: he'd fill with uh shrapnel and when they came to you know either get him or arrest him or harass

[00:10:56.89 -> 00:10:59.41] Unknown: them or whatever they were going to do, he'd shoot it at them.

[00:11:00.97 -> 00:11:04.57] Unknown: Which was his Second Amendment right to being exercised.

[00:11:05.23 -> 00:11:05.63] Unknown: Exactly.

[00:11:06.19 -> 00:11:08.43] Unknown: And, you know, eventually they stopped coming over.

[00:11:09.13 -> 00:11:10.85] Unknown: And he needed to do that.

[00:11:10.89 -> 00:11:15.29] Unknown: Otherwise, you know, bad things were going to happen to him, no thanks to the local authorities.

[00:11:16.07 -> 00:11:20.05] Unknown: And I've always thought that was like, you know, people moan and groan about it.

[00:11:20.09 -> 00:11:21.45] Unknown: It's all weapons, all the rest.

[00:11:21.63 -> 00:11:24.69] Unknown: This guy has like a cannon that he's shooting.

[00:11:24.69 -> 00:11:30.35] Unknown: And so I'm always thinking back on that, like, what would have happened if you didn't have the canon?

[00:11:30.53 -> 00:11:33.61] John: So I think there's lots of modern-day analogies to that story.

[00:11:35.69 -> 00:11:38.55] Unknown: None that I can think of, but yeah, there probably are.

[00:11:40.41 -> 00:11:50.92] Unknown: Now, by the way, the funny story about the Cassius Clay house, you know, and Cassius Clay, of course, is who Muhammad Ali was.

[00:11:50.92 -> 00:11:52.52] Unknown: Yeah, named himself after, right?

[00:11:52.52 -> 00:11:58.50] Unknown: name no no he named himself muhammad ali he was born he was born cassius clay oh okay because

[00:11:58.50 -> 00:12:06.96] Unknown: most of the uh a lot of well you know as a lot of uh famous blacks were named after famous whites

[00:12:06.96 -> 00:12:12.38] Unknown: or i mean i'm sorry a lot of black slaves were named after famous whites and became a tradition

[00:12:12.38 -> 00:12:17.56] Unknown: in the black community to name people after famous people okay and so cassius clay was named after

[00:12:17.56 -> 00:12:23.26] Unknown: this guy now the kicker and anybody who happens to be in the area of lexington should go check

[00:12:23.26 -> 00:12:28.52] Unknown: out this this is actually a very interesting place because for one thing there's a uh a bunch of

[00:12:28.52 -> 00:12:35.32] Unknown: little like busts that showed for example his sister's uh clothes and that these some of these

[00:12:35.32 -> 00:12:42.52] Unknown: people during that era in the 1850s were if they were four seven it was a miracle especially the

[00:12:42.52 -> 00:12:49.66] Unknown: women they weren't getting a lot of vitamin b and his his his wife was obviously a she was a uh

[00:12:49.66 -> 00:12:53.82] Unknown: not his wife i'm sorry i think it was a sister this has been years ago when i was over there

[00:12:53.82 -> 00:12:58.70] Unknown: his sister was and i should obviously read something before i do these interviews or these

[00:12:58.70 -> 00:13:06.50] Unknown: just show with you um why ruin the spontaneity huh yeah right i'm waiting for the eta on this

[00:13:06.50 -> 00:13:14.56] Unknown: point you're about to make i'm getting there so anyway the it's a long road anyway so his sis his

[00:13:14.56 -> 00:13:21.48] Unknown: sister was a woman you know activist when you start to see the pictures of her and all her

[00:13:21.48 -> 00:13:27.26] Unknown: friends you could tell she was kind of um she was a lesbian it was kind of amusing but anyway the

[00:13:27.26 -> 00:13:32.54] Unknown: story i'm trying to get to but she was like four foot two or something they had a like a thing of

[00:13:32.54 -> 00:13:35.96] Unknown: you know like where the clothes she wore she couldn't have been bigger than a 12 year old

[00:13:35.96 -> 00:13:37.44] Unknown: I bet you had a huge-ass cannon.

[00:13:38.45 -> 00:13:39.35] Unknown: She might have.

[00:13:39.91 -> 00:13:53.77] Unknown: Anyway, so I'm looking around this house, and there is a newspaper article about a famous African who came to visit Kentucky, and he visited the house, and he met with Cassius Clay.

[00:13:54.39 -> 00:13:56.21] Unknown: And his name was Muhammad Ali.

[00:13:57.18 -> 00:13:57.66] Unknown: Wow.

[00:13:58.48 -> 00:13:59.64] Unknown: Yeah, that's what I thought.

[00:13:59.80 -> 00:14:01.18] Unknown: And so I said, wow, that's cool.

[00:14:01.18 -> 00:14:09.10] Unknown: And now I'm thinking that Cassius Clay himself, the boxer, may, you know, because he'd heard the story and he named himself Muhammad Ali.

[00:14:09.52 -> 00:14:14.48] Unknown: He may have actually visited this museum and saw that name.

[00:14:14.62 -> 00:14:15.52] Unknown: That's a cool name.

[00:14:15.70 -> 00:14:18.90] Unknown: Because there's a weird connection there that's never been explained to me.

[00:14:20.26 -> 00:14:21.12] Unknown: That's the story.

[00:14:21.24 -> 00:14:23.96] Unknown: Oh, John, I am so happy you told me that story.

[00:14:24.56 -> 00:14:28.68] Unknown: Well, the funny thing about that, anyway, your interview triggered my thoughts on that story.