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Liberal, not Democrat. Believe it or not, there are pro-gun "thinking" Democrats.
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I don't argue mine is blind faith. You don't seem to argue opposite other than to say "no I don't". For example, you say you don't want to kill others because you don't want to be killed. Well why don't you want to be killed? What is the rational reason behind that? Not only that, how do you get from no wanting to be killed to not killing. Their is not set of reason that draws that conclusion.
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Well, that's disappointing. I though the congratulations were for me (17th wedding anniversary yesterday). Okay, I suppose a woman's right to choose might be as important. Congrats! Smiley
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You mean you don't think you have your own made-up religion?? How interesting! Do you really think you're fooling God? Or us?? Or even yourself??
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Excuse me, I stand corrected. For 'pretend' please substitute 'wrongly believe'.
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The question is: To what degree do wars cull out particular genes as opposed to ideas? Another thing to consider is not who is getting killed, but who is being born. Unless, something is done about the niche, it will just get filled again by whoever was decimated. Compare: Germans (hypothetically) settling in the Ukraine versus the US bombing of Hiroshima (which was not then settled by the US). Consistent genetic pressure is really key.
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Right. It was thrown out of schools back in the 1960s, and again in the 1980s when attempts were made to dress creationism up in the jargon of science and call it "Creation science."
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You've almost got it. Follow that thought and you'll get it.
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I am curious as to how you determine whos middle class on this forum. Do you have a crystal ball or simply discern peoples classes based on whether they agree with you or not?
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What is it that you disagree with? My statement of fact? Or the fact that I made a politically incorrect assertion? emoticonXConfused
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Why can't you answer questions directly? anyway, I support ct in passing civil unions or marriage lite as I like to see it, but It doesn't confer equality. If it is really equ8al than it would be marrige. Reason beinbg portablity ( irealize you think t
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The culprit is menopausal hotflashes from us aging boomers. More ppl and animals die worldwide from exposure to cold than heat, plus added C02 will be boon for flora.
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This coming from the person that makes insane claims without providing evidence. Atleast provide some when asked!
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because gc hears things all woggly. the message from god is for shepherds to tend to ignorant, mindless sheep. but, with dope-smoker ears, and american ignorance it translates into a cowboy...who rustles cattle...and heads them to a quick slaughter. it's like, when the anti-chist makes his appearance, i'll be gods slaughterman. effectively and efficiently removing tru-believahs from the world...cause god forgot some in his rapture thingy (i forget how the logic of these events is supposed to play out...) ummm...aren't we overdue for that bloke to return already? i'm getting antsy for the 2nd coming and all the excitement that leads up to that glorious event. think holding my breath will make it happen any sooner?
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And how does this compare to your ideas on artificial selection?
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pay attention. age of consent is still the topic and point. if teen pregnancy is reduced to statistically acceptable levels through education and contraception with medical risk being a negligible five-decimal point factor, that would position teen sex emotional distress as a good/bad societal interpretation designated by non-teens, would it not? which would negate chronological age of consent for legal sex to a non-status unless those non-teens making the laws had another agenda.
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gad!!! is there no end to 'low' this putz can go?? horrible. and what's worse, he routinely damages the testimony of genuine christians with his antics.
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You really don't get it. The best thing about a free market is when someone acts like a fool they get burned. Thanks to government intervention and regulation when someone acts like a fool they get bailed out.
If you like we can have the trains run like Amtrak.
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it's the same kind of remark you made to sandy. what is the matter, you can dish it out but you can't take it? oh yes.. i forgot. all the wives you ever had divorced you. never mind.
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Because the modern application of gun control is to target everyone. But that doesn't change the fact that gun control began as a purely racist concept.
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You may see a vast differene, many do not. The "moral" grounds for many is simply the justification for their homophobia.
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Hey, it's the same god, just older. The birth of his son mellowed him out, you know,.. made him think about the future more, and have to worry about responsibility and all that stuff.
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Where has it been shown? How is it used to make predictions about species chances of survival for the future?
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exactly my point. how far back do we go ? there has to be a statute of limitations . how about compensating people who actually suffered the injustice? compensating the descendants of slaves.....that is going to be tricky.... some descendants have mixed black/white heritage....who decides if they are entitled to compensation or not ? compensating descendants opens up a can of worms.
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Yea, i got one about the UK. Let me find it, hold on.
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People are protected by law from being harassed, assaulted and/or murdered because they are people. Not because they are a certain religion. Because they are people it would be wrong to allow such things.
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OH FREE MARKET???? IM goin to take the embryos and fetuses slain in abortion centers and turn it into a new food source and sell it at the grocery store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And compare that to an equivalent sized human - if you compared the skill to a 10-13 year old boy, the erectus skeleton's cranial capacity would be significantly smaller. Doesn't contradict in the slightest other than the bizarre positions you decide other people should hold.
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Except that the word for day in Genesis 1 is 'yom' and was understood to be a twenty-four hour day.
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Apart from the 'horizontally instead of vertically' part which I didn't understand - we're a hundred or so years too late, unfortunately. You might as well ask for an example of a book or website on cosmology that 'admits' the sun may just be a big ball of fire pushed by a scarab beetle, and not a nuclear furnace about which the earth orbits. There comes a point where continuing to seriously 'consider' a viewpoint becomes a waste of time and resources, because sufficient testing has been done and evidence recovered to discount it. We may one day encounter evidence that completely overturns the whole applecart, but so far it hasn't happened.
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Well, we really don't know. However we do know that the woman has self conscious, and feels pain. Something the fetus lacks. She also can interact with other human beings, and develop relationships and attachments. Another thing the fetus lacks. Phisically, she is larger and much more capable than the fetus, and has a formed brain. Another thing the fetus lacks. In conclusion, we really don't know. But, we do know that the woman can do, feel, and become more than a fetus is.
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Well then the courts must be insane. Because I'm sure there are some gun control laws that they're struck down due to their ineffectiveness.
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LoL What part of a Binding Document, the Constitution with it's Bill of Rights, don't you understand! You demand that we obey the law, but you would allow Government to break the Supreme law of the Land, and you call me a nut? I gotta say my friend, THAT is truly nutty! emoticonXSmilie
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You're lying to yourself.. So I'll just keep letting you know until the cloud of delusion dissipates.
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haz, i dont really see it being an issue. do you? let us not trifle over spelling and other such foo foo technicalities as this. understood?
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based on what? i never said mr. horn did anything legally wrong. he was well within the rights of the state of texas. i never argued otherwise. that doesn't change the obvious fact that he intended to kill the two men, which is the topic of the discussion at hand.
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Well, you have proven yoruself to be a man with no brain, that is for sure.
The definition that was given was the one that scientists use, not the layperson.
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let us not forget that his 99% figure is most likely a load of horse dung in the first place. in fact, he's so full of **** that i am surprised the pressure build-up hasnt blown the top of his bloody head off.
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find me a spell check plugin for firefox liminus. i had one for ie before i switched over. frankly, i'm not surprised we're going to use that for police and military applications.
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What we have here is simply a perspective problem, which is the problem with most debates. I see the Bible as sound, and every "error" in the Bible I have researched (I have admittedly not researched them all) have been refuted.
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You and your spiritually-challenged friends are obviously too stupid to understand the difference between a cult and Biblical Christianity.
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originally posted by fracas only way to be more efficient is to continue to wage war preferentially against technologically similar sides are we back to a us-eu war? sorry i took that the wrong way, but regardless, the kind of thinking that leads to wars and seeing who has the largest most powerful military is precisely what i'd like to get away from in order to advance the military. yes we learn from war, but its wasteful, i'm proposing a not so wasteful military.
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But yet you have the right to make an an a-s-s out of yourself? As far as the nude beaches go, it would be worth the plane fare if I knew you were going to be at one so I could laugh my a-s-s off.
FROTFLMAO
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Like Big Bad John McCain?
Who's been a dependent of Big Daddy gubment all his life?
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Exactly. If you are a child rapist and someone pops you in the head than you should go to jail for murder. Sorry, two wrongs don't make a right.
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Listen, I have forgotten more than you will ever learn about what is real and true in this world, so either back up your insults with facts or get lost because It is becoming painfully obvious that attempting to reason with you is an exercise in futility. kind of like trying to travel from point A to point B on a merry-go-round.
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Leave it to an airhead like you to reduce presidential qualifications down to physical characteristics.emoticonXRolleyes
I wouldn't vote for Sarah Palin for president. She lost my support when she resigned her governorship of Alaska. IMO, quitters are losers. emoticonXCensored
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Pregnancy involves risk. While opting to undertake risk for a worthwhile objective is fine, to compel someone to take that risk is not. Obviously some pregnancies are undesirable, when unplanned or especially when the result of rape or incest. Besides, something that almost any woman can do is hardly a "miracle". Wondrous maybe but miraculous?
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Leave it to a leftist to cite a leftist forum for evidence that a leftist agenda is supported by dedicated leftists. Go figure, huh? This post just proves that attempting to reason with such an irrational thinker is truly a waste of time and effort.
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its a big-ish book but yes, considering underneath those X's is "dwarf".
are you a dwarf gansao?
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The pro gun-control side tries to protect individual rights from being violated by criminals. In contrast, the pro-gun side is more interested in protecting the profits of the gun industry.
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How remarkable. What a singular idea to invent a contest of skill in which a person in opposition tries to prevent one from outperforming them. Is this the only type of game in which there are two sides, or is this a novelty?
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Exactly my point! After four pages he finally gets it! Give him a hand! There's a brain in that head after all! But my point is, that unless you do disagree with the stats, your argument is irrelevant.
[QUOTE]What I have been saying for the last three pages is that your question is idiotic, as you're comparing things which are completely different in function. They are not analogous.
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Your view of choice is your belief. I don't "believe" that a pregnant woman or anyone else should be able to choose for the child. That child does not have a choice. Choosing to kill someone is a choice, but it is not a choice that should be legal. Therefore, you are forcing your view of "choice" on me by making abortion (murder) illegal.
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Because when something passes every experiment thrown at it and when something fits observation better than anything else, then it's as near as damnit fact. We can get pedantic over this if you want, but the conclusion that reaches is that there are no facts.
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so you are asking how a gravitational field overcomes the intertia of a less massive object placed within said field? i don't know but your question kind of confused me: in this example the only reason the object is not moving is because you are exerting an opposing force to counter that which the warped space has induced on the object (gravity). all that has changed when the object is released is it can accelerate freely and we can observe the resulting notion. i see what you are getting at- the question could be rephrased as how is an object in a region of warped space constantly under an acceleration towards the centre of the gravitional field, the strength of which depends upon the size of the bodies and the distance separating the two?
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Now that is funny, the marie troll not knowing its a troll.
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wow, so everyone else is just wrong. no chance you could be? i am willing to bet that you also disagree with many christians or they disagree with you at least.
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so was dominating and enslaving of women. doesn't mean we should do it just because it has historicity. actually i've heard this idea by numerous people, on both sides of the issue. i can see the merits myself--give couples' benefits in a way that doesn't utilize a cultural and religious institution that has nothing to do with legality to begin with. that way at least cultural marriage doesn't have to be redefined to any extent and legal benefits would no longer be any sort of reflection of any one group's cultural and ideological views. by the way, what do you mean by 'anti-gay' in your phrase 'anti-gay people'? that's always important to nail down.
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I've got to concentrate...concentrate...concentrate. I've got to concentrate...concentrate...concentrate...Hello?.. .Hello?...Hello? Echo...Echo...Echo...Pinch hitting for Pedro Colon...Manny Mota...Mota...Mota...
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In short, you have nothing but faith, and seek to project it where it has no place.
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Tell ya what; I got this Rolex I'm wiling to sell ya for $50.00. Give me the money and wait here. I'll be right back!
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I think perhaps you're confused.1. I know of no meaningful definion of the term "god' as it pertains to reality.2. When you mention science and history, that implies you are interested in reality.3. There is no evidence to support mythological deities, god or God or Odin or the easter bunny.* So, yes THERE IS NO EVIDENCE of the existence of any mytholgoical gods.** Yes, there is no evidence that the universe was created, or if that statement even has meaning if the universe always was, and always will be.p.s. There is easter bunny.-Mach
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Really, can you show me this science? You are just as genetically similiar to a white person as you are to an embryo.
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You've got no problem with Jim Crow laws? Nice.
It IS seperate. Black people are not white people.
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I think it best not to jump to conclusions about things you don't know. Before you were saying that Bloomberg didn't even have a right to complain about what happens in other cities in New York. Now you're complaining that Bloomberg isn't doing enough to interfere in what goes on in other states.
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You know what I find amusing here...your entire argument revolves around how it will affect your wallet. Forget about the lives of the people who are denied rights in this country that you take forgranted. That is the true christian-American spirit isn't it? Oh how proud our forefathers would be if they could see us now...oh wait...most of them owned people...nevermind.
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For anti-choicers, it's just about control and power over women. They don't care about life. (Except their own.)This same mother could be a person who didn't have access to pre-natal care. They wouldn't defend that right either.Because they DON'T care about the fetus. They don't care about life. They don't care about health. They care about power and money and pushing people around. That's all.
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The amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases (CO2 is not the only greenhouse gas) threatens to snowball because of the rapid depletion of available carbon sinks and the consumption of existing ones. The MAIN problem with de-forestations is NOT that the trees are no longer removing CO2 from the atmosphere, but our use of them is adding CO2 to it (burning, etc.) and the other sources we could turn to to remove it are also being used up. Methane hydrates in the polar seabeds threaten to rapidly increase the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases as soon as the temperature increases enough to destablize the ice crystals holding them in place.
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the truth hurts doesn't it? you say that 'it is part of the problem' then you claim it isn't illegal? dyslexic much? gun traces are for many reasons as bryan has fastidiously pointed out and seldom if ever useful for any prosecution. now, who are we to believe joker? dangling participle and you claim to have an education? lol unsupported statement you snatched out of thin air. if you haven't noticed, we have history and the scotus on our side of this idiotic argument you keep trying to sell without success. thanks! for your edification, there are over 26 pages of documentation complete with links to reputable sources and to congress for your perusal. instead of reading them you ignore them, stuff your fingers in both ears, cover your eyes and act like a child.
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Actually its 14 billion years. Hovind is not claiming what science does.
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Misunderstanding or misrepresentation? Biologists and geneticists do not claim that DNA is isolated from the environment. We are well aware that the environment can cause mutations under many conditions (cosmic radiation, x-ray, etc.). What is denied is that mutations are environmentally directed - in other words, exposure to cosmic radiation will not cause a mutation that will make the organism resistant to cosmic radiation. The mutations will be random. On the other hand, natural selection IS, by definition, the response of populations to their environment. The environment has been shown to have effects on DNA, i.e., the genome of the population.
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Ha ha, very funny. Did you remember to pay before you pumped that one out?emoticonXClown
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You know, if the God deniers even let the baby out of the mother's womb alive to begin with then he's already one step ahead of the game.As for what to do with him then, show me under the New Covenant where Jesus said to stone kids?Personally, I think we should stone obese, jaded statues of weird looking holy men.
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Ludacris and many others in the hip hop scene disrespect women with their lyrics and videos. Much of what hip hop puts out contributes to unwanted pregnancies.
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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-usd072606.php and that which is a press release and is thus in the range of your scholary skills should provide you with some additonal food for thought. unless of course you consider fishes to have limbs rather than fins and unless you think fish have digits like humans etc.
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I suppose "good" atheists are always "good" until some religious person whitewashed them into doing something "bad?" Get real. Fact is ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD.
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Why, yes, of course!! How foolish of everybody! It's obviously just one more case of "spontaneous generation", that's all. Any darwinist can see that, plain as day!
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exactly who are you saying has revised the bible? and with that question asked, i believe by admitting that if it was revised to delete the meat of it, it would be equally diluted in power, content and strength. really? if you're speaking about jefferson still, then why didn't he recommend that all punishments for homosexuality be erased from the law completely, and homosexuality be legalized at that time? that would have been the just and magnanimous thing to do if he believed such tripe as you attribute to him.
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i think you may be very very suprised by roberts. i like some of the answers he is giving. i have a feeling you conservates may get f***cked. he is not as conservate as you think. besides even if he is conservate he certainly is not as conservate as the emoticonxcensored he is replacing. as a citizen of virginia do you support this law that strips people of their wills and powers of attorny? http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...41+ful+hb751s1 this is just a very mean law and will hurt many people.
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If the child is to be born into a poverty stricken part of the world and is expected to die by the age of 7 by either disease or lack of food, why not spare pain and abort?
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So you're a perfect clone of one your parents with zero copying errors? Amazing.
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DC has a law that human and civil rights can not be put up for a vote, this is the way it should be in the rest of the country. Why do you want to be able to vote on other peoples lives? Why is it that you are so cruel?
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hello there, my dear fellow, you're using a 19th century definition for a 21st century subject. it doesn't work. what you're writing is pure drivel. there is the caucasian group which you initially mention, then you misuse the terminology, actually meaning the sub-ethnicities of the caucasians. no doubt you're one of those sadly misinformed individuals who believes that 'muslim' is a race. the state of education is surely at an all time low-and getting lower no doubt. cheers from the rockies emoticonxkill emoticonxhoho emoticonxcry emoticonxkill
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we are not talking about genesis as a story are we? we are talking about bilbical creation. you really are thick arent you? i know there are religious people, deeply and otherwise who accept the story of genesis as a story but that has no relevance to the thread. undisputable is only stupid because you cant provide it. certainly not as comprehensively as the aristotlian view of the universe was disproved. the horse evolution thread was fine...you have showed a little horse turning into a big horse and not one species actually evolving into another distinct species but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt. now show exactly how life originated and you're home and dry.
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So according to one of the people who conducted the study don't go using their results as a tool for arguing against abortion.One woman I know had an abortion a short time after she was married. I also know she has regrets that she had the procedure. I considered what she had to say about her experience and thought about the 14 year old son she now has. From what she told me, I could plainly see she would never have had her son if she had not had her abortion as her circumstances would have changed beyond recognition. Perhaps she gets depressed about the child she never had because of her abortion. However, her son is a fantastic boy whom she loves very much. So we cannot simplify in quite the way you seem to infer that we can.
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So, once again, the lack of criminal prosecution isn't due to the red herring that you claim, but rather the incompetence of the Justice Department. Franken's bill doesn't have a provision for making the Justice Department do its job, does it?
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Different version here too. "No one born of a forbidden marriage nor any of his descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD , even down to the tenth generation." Forbidden: not permitted or allowed
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do you actually believe that? do you have any evidence? complaining is practically the national passtime here.
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SNIPThis opinion piece was put forth by the Violence Policy Center, the same people who opposed all forms of firearms safety training and gun locks, because they might encourage people to feel that they're more capable of safely operation a firearm. The Violence Policy Center also pushed the idea of an "assault weapons ban" because it was easier than a handgun ban, claiming that the uneducated people are unable to tell what is a machine gun and what isn't a machine gun, making passage of such a law all the easier.
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It's a lot more than what you've come up with. What evidence do you have that indicates the Iraq population wasn't heavily armed? As for the Taliban, you're confusing Afghanistan with Iraq.
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So, Stststeeeee and OS, you don't like for Americans to have health care like the civilized world has?
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New Jersey Poll: Birthers, Truthers, And The Anti-Christ -- Oh, My! | TPMDC
So that makes more than one out of three New Jersey conservatives who think Obama is either affirmatively "the anti-Christ" or they are "not sure"...
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oh yeah, i went to see the new movie a couple of weeks ago, it's probably the most interesting film i have seen in a long time. i actually bought the book because of the movie and i am going to read it sometime in the near future. looking forward to it!
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Yes I apologize for your ignorance and your inability to 'get it'....
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And how is that? Your stereotypical view is supposed to represent "truth"?? LMAO. B**** (and I mean that "lovingly") I'm friggin married. For 10 years. I don't accept "gay sex proposals", unless it's from my husband. And he ain't "white". I had my flings with y'all....and y'all ain't right. I moved on. And learn to use English "correctly". A remedial English course is recommended. And I have never lived in Sodom. I'm a Houstonian. B^^^^.
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Apparently you thought I was claiming that pro-lifers thought that the baby's life was more valuable than the mother's life. So I clarified:
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So cross jurisdictional escort is a fairly common occurrence in the area. You will note that it is not the local cops talking about not being informed....it is the author of the article whining about it.
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I'd agree..... faith is a "leap in the dark" (or whatever similiar phrase we care to use) on at least some level, there is always an element of the intangible there.I know Christians who have described there faith to me in such terms before.. sounds quite reasonable to me.
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really? congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; sounds like a requirement to be neutral to me. it could be rephrased: 'don't meddle with religion! do not regulate. neither promote nor inhibit.' why would anyone have a problem with this? and we both know that the limitation of government regulate of rights and liberties is read today, thanks to the 14th amendment, as applying to all legislative authorities in the us, not just congress. no state legislature can establish a state religion either.
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