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lol! well you may have picked the wrong answer choice though??? i guess not much can happen in the desert... maybe a dust storm or something? we get tornadoes here... i was in one as a kid! crazy stuff.
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But on the other hand, Genesis isn't a scientific document. No wonder. Why would a bronze age nomad from the Levant be aware of at least 3 tailless species of primates, or even the tailed primates from Africa, South America, and even Madigascar. If they aren't mentioned in the Bible, do they exist?
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oh dear god, marry me! just kidding, i agree. .
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This is not what hospitals do with biomedical waste. They incinerate it. If these people are really doing this I can"t imagine who the buyer is , and they are breaking many many laws.
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'if carrying guns became legal, then police could no longer arrest people for carrying guns illegally!' emoticonxrolleyes really? i suppose you'd be happier if only the 'bad guys' were armed, because that would make them easier to identify.
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You can't...only admin can...and there's no need to be sorry.
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I'm not the basket case. Your the one that actually BELIEVES in fairytales remember?
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and a lot of cosmetic surgery. you know, i'm surprised not more comparisons are done with vet care. i had my cat sliced open and a bunch of samples taken and a billion tests and 3-4 nights in the special vet hospital at a vet school. it cost me a fortune! something like $650 bucks. the same procedure which is done in h...
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i'm always blown away by the irony of seeing fundamentalists claim to grasp 'absolute truth.' nothing could be more blasphemous, by their own definitions: they place themselves in the position they ordinarily reserve for god. and then they accuse atheists of theological arrogance?!? please.
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But you still feel they have the right idea when it comes to firearms?
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You just provided good evidence that schools use an atheist presupposition - that atheism is entrenched in public schools. Who proclaims that man and chimps sharing a common ancestor is an established scientific theory? A theory is defined as a well tested explanation that unifies a broad range of observation. A theory...
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Well, i vote, that seems to be working enough seeing that 2 pro-life judges have been appointed within 1 year. interesting, im takin a cheesecake break..
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You said who would it hurt? I'm asking you who would it hurt if there was prostituion? Just to help you think that there are injuries that are proximate to everyone.
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Well, yeah, if science hasn't provided an explanation for a phenomenon, then all we can do is shrug and submit grant proposals.
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go out there and find all kinds of democrat-led, black-led, white-led, mexican-led, etc.. efforts to protect gay rights. just because you can't find them doesn't mean they're against them. saying all republicans are against gay rights because one of them is, is bigoted, stereotypical and childish. quite moronic too. is...
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We don't need another one that does the same thing, and can put an honest gun owner in a jam. This is after all as Nato 556 points out, a due process violation. Don't lie for the other guy. National Sports Shooting Foundation campaign.
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wow. that's an hour's research well-used! can i be your friend?
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Sure, cause everyone ALWAYS agrees with everything their church minister says. emoticonXRolleyes
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Well stated. Whatever the reason, the new culture of ridicule IS there. When you see the in person comments of Dawkins, Provine, Myers, you'll know where posters here get it from. I hope you'll watch the movie, and post up what you think.
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have you ever burned a flag? have you ever urinated on a pow flag? i thought you said you never did, so i don't see how i am lambasting you for something you have never done. but do you honestly believe it is ok for any person to urinate on a pow flag just because they think they have a good reason to do it? you said i...
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So please tell me who would be the actual criminals if the Government violated the Supreme Law of the Land and made all guns illegal?But I do thank you for proving that there are people out there who want them all, despite The Bill of Rights says and what the Supreme Court proved was the correct meaning!
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That seems reasonably likely, happens to a lot of people. Umm, you're the one questioning whether the environment can cause cancer? The "Evolutionist scientists" you despise so much are the ones publishing papers about the environmental causes of cancer. Cancer isn't "selected", people who get cancer often die and ...
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Actually, I snipped your remarks because 1) you twisted what I said and 2) I'm already spending too much time arguing with random complainers and I was in a hurry to do something more important at the time.
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So, you would vote to legislate against it? Ok, now that thats cleared up, why do you consider sex to be so bad? Sex is a healthy part of a relationship or marrige, and i would not go to these lengths to minimize it. Sex has a small risk of ending in pregnancy, and an even smaller risk if using a condom, and even small...
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Force the children to learn science? How obscene!!what's next ? maths?? emoticonXRolleyes
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I think that getting your tubes tied is a responsible act. I was just inquiring about the motive for doing so. Too bad more women (and men) don't share your level of responsibility. If they did, we wouldn't need to debate the "need" for abortions. emotico
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For someone that knows how each side thinks, I would have thought you would have had an eye opening response that would have had me recanting everything I have said in the past and glorifying your name and everything you would say in the future, BUT, instead I got
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Actually, there's a birth every 8 seconds, and a death every 11 seconds, which means the population of the earth grows less than 1% each year...so, even with those aborted babies, the world would NOT be overpopulated.
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So you're claiming the beardy bloke nailed to a couple of bits of 2X4 didn't actually exist?emoticonXRolleyes
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Actually, after the fact calculations on either side are just noise. Humans do exist and I suspect that all statements of probabilities are incorrect. Further, I don't think that coin flips are relevant and not even a very good analogy.
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My pursuit of happiness is denied by trees existing. Let's burn them down and destroy the environment. It's much better than me being unhappy.
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My dear Sigma, I'd tutor you in logic if I thought it would stick. Notwithstanding anything that has been said before in this thread, are no better than is not interchangeable with equally as bad or worse than simply because are no better than does not imply that the thing following than is bad at all...while equally a...
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Sweetie, if every gay person were as wealthy as Mary Cheney, we could laugh all the way to the bank and ignore the prejudice in society the way she does. Indeed, we'd probably be the darlings of the GOP. Unfortunately for your delusion, gays are no more or less wealthy on average than anyone else.
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by changing the subject. just because you reply doesn't mean you don't change the subject. i could reply with gibberish. you apparently missed the post where you claimed that creationwiki had refuted talkorigins. as talkorigins supports the toh, and since you think that that to is incorrect, well, you do the math. do ...
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money cant fix your problems at all you think that they can but they cant. i think that it can because money has fixed all of my problems. come on! give me an answer to what can't money fix? leys say your one of those people that would die. how would you feel. i would feel however i was feeling before i died. in the d...
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darling, you're too sensitive. i've never had an issue with your debates. it was a parody of some of the new ones out. you've probably seen them, they ask a question then give yes, because and no, because for the answers when they are clearly not a question that can be answered yes or no. if i had a problem with yours,...
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Yeah, lets tax those rich greedy jerks!!! I mean really, why be equal when you want something for free right??? SCREW FREEDOM I WANT MY HEALTHCARE!!!
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Being' immune' and being 'less prone' do not mean the same thing.I doubt that you will become the poet laureate of Dallas if you do not understand words sweetplums.You are an old camp fruit and a snivelling bigot .Are we talking daddies? What does an old fruit like you know of daddies?I bet he's sure proud of you.emoti...
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I've seen people (on TV:)) who would actually know about such things say that the fact that these things passed in these states pretty much spels doom for any possible constitutional ammendment. Don't ask me how they figure this. It's just what they were saying.
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It may only be salvaging to you but to the parents involved it is body theft.Let me just ask you to step in our shoes for just 10 minutes imagine trawling around 100's of hospital labs and medical schools seeing all these poor little babies lined up in jars and i don't mean just a few there is up to 50 in each hospital...
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But even worse, even if there were some unknown mechanism to cause such movement, it would generate heat. The heat generated by the creation of the mountains of the world would be more than enough to reduce the entire surface to molten lava. Add to that the fact that the condensation of the "vapor canopy" would release...
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i prefer to just pop out the cards rather than fool with the cords. i keep a usb cord plugged in and handy right under my monitor. i'm thinking of getting one of those mini card readers and then i won't even have to hunt around for a usb port. i'll have to check the one you mention above. i don't need a professional q...
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this is why i'm tempted to say the us deserves to fail. this isn't a game. don't any of you ###### understand that the time for 'us vs them' is long gone? 'your' guy is not a god, and 'their' guy is not the devil. the whole divisive nature of the us is absolutely incredible. i'm sure i'm not alone when i look on in dum...
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Homosexuals are attracted to people of the same sex whether they be adults are children.............The vast majority of the priests who were charged admitted to being gay............
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Because the judges President Bush nominates are strict constructionist.They interpret the law not make it...........That is the worse nightmare for a liberal or a gay who depend on judges to over rule the vote of the people............They can't win at the ballot box so they think they can win in the courts....It won't...
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and nobody knows google better then the man that googles everything. still hunting for excuses bohemian? i'm surprised you didn't yell fallacy. invalid and uncogent must be today's words for the day. i'm sure we will all see them used in other debates throughout the remainder of the day. can't wait and see what is tom...
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perhaps you would like to explain simplistic.Is the anthropic principle simplistic?What natural law created natural law?Where did the information come from?Is matter creating matter simplistic? Matter creating information?Here;s a deep thought:If matter created the Universe what if it changes it's mind! emoticonXRolley...
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What Is a Human Person and Who Counts as a Human Person?: A Crucial Question for Bioethics by Prof. William E. MayThere is also an extremely academic school of thought which views the human person in terms of the ego in all its derivations. I cannot hope to summarize what this is all about, please refer to:Philosophica...
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Looking for an opportunity to shoot a gun control advocate while being protected from prosecution by the castle laws in your state? Not happening....
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Anything that doesn't fit your preconcieved prejudices is automaticlly wrong?
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But? If? Isn't? But that's? Must be a Progressive prison or something. emoticonXSmilie
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That's right. It merely has the capacity to make errors which sometimes slightly improves function in a particular environment. And those tend to accumulate over time.
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what do you find disrespectful about it? maybe it is 'disrespectful' but i sometimes that's not necessarily so bad. i don't think it rises to the level of being offensive.
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sometimes it's fun to play devil's advocate but i guess it's just a people thing. we experience life with these 'rights' and we don't want to give them up, and anyone who brings up an argument against them we shun and flee from.
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What this highlights is that the laws of the land are ignored and some people try to place the blame on the victims.
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Pro-choice? Why do you assume I'm pro-choice? I often play devil's advocate...I was using china as an example to show you that people when desperate, trying to get around laws (in this case the 1 child law), will abandon their children to death in the gutter -- it was unrelated to abortion laws -- it was an illustratio...
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I think you just made the point that they're people after a certain degree of development takes place.
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Chloe, the point of this thread is to help you understand what the argument is, not to give analogies to abortion.
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Wow, how very open-minded of you. Their opinion differs from yours so they must be small-minded inbreds.
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When do you advocate breeding blond haired, blue eyed citizens to purify the US?
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What is this "we" stuff? Got a mouse in your pocket? I thought god was going to destroy it...not "we".
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You mean that hole that has been observed and proven, repeatedly? Climate Change is a controversy in the same way as the earth being broadly spherical is a controversy. There's a group of nutters who think the earth is flat; doesn't mean there is any reason to believe it is.
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Yes, but gays would also want laws changed to accomodate THEIR form of marriage as well. The fact that one requires less change than the other shouldn't matter, should it? Should having to do more reworking of laws and more paperwork hinder the pursuit of equality? It seems to me your argument boils down to "polygamy r...
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i can't help it if fairy tales are dear to your heart dude, i'm just telling it like it is. christians all over the country try to claim the gospels are in harmony..and very rarely , if ever, have i found a christian who will admit the contradictions in the bible. they try to explain away contradictions with lies and ...
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The VPC has a political agenda. The FBI? That is like saying I believe Coke taste better than Pepsi because the Coke commericial says so.
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Then you don't actually have a definition of information that is meaningful. I didn't think you did. By the way, increase in the amount (i.e., more letters) of DNA has often been observed. The mechanisms of evolution account for it quite nicely.Now please try again an define information in a way that is meaningful to D...
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Ah?"scratching head"I just woke up,what?womens choice,her body,death penalty?ah ok gotch ya.emoticonXFrazzled
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oh yeah of course you will, and while your at it you will be a genocidal dictator and people will still love your god damn country instead of wanting to change it back! lol very funny!
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How the hell can you narrow it down to three? The competition in the entire top ten is fierce.
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Well. compared to you, I am a spiritual genus. Well.. so is 95% of the human race.
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is it a new definition of 'control' that is needed? i was thinking maybe my definition of 'freedom' was outdated.
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not when there are a lot of fokes who feel that the issue is being forced on them. people do not like change, and it has not been very long from is being "bad" to be gay (still is in some places) to being "OK", but it is still aganst what a lot have been tought form birth is right.
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Oh well. Keep trying and you will get there one day.
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You know, if the God deniers even let the baby out of the mother's womb alive to begin with then he's already one step ahead of the game. As for what to do with him then, show me under the New Covenant where Jesus said to stone kids? Personally, I think we should stone obese, jaded statues of weird looking holy men.
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Yes. It describes an action without ascribing its form to its end result, outcome, whatever but strictly to a cause/s force/s in action. That is why 'selection' is always teleological. In order to select or choose anything, an end must always be in view. There must always be a volitional discrimination of options based...
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oh really? stop lying to yourself pal. http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/shouldzoophiliazoosexualitybelegal http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ should itbelegaltohavesexwithdogs_3
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The fact that some scientists totally dismiss god is proof of there ignorance of scientific method. There is growing evidence to support the existence of a supreme being, and a lot of scientists are ignorant of this fact, yet they accept theories from the quantum level wich are not proven beyond the proof of the existe...
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These "infants" do. My mother could have aborted me and she chose to have me. And if the state decides to keep abortion legal? Then you don't care if these "gifts from God" have a chance or not?
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fend not really. they took it out because it was a blatant pro-christian argument. and those two threads only serve to prove my point. the only iders are fundamentalists christians or muslims. there is no science in id. only godiddit. explain to me how the same processes that date geological areas that are used by ev...
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One plants seeds in a debate. Get people to think. This is why you see relatively few creationists on these boards. Not because they don't know how to think (some are quite intelligent), but because they don't have a plausible theory to support their ideas. Thinking is the enemy for them, until they can work out a th...
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So you disagree with Zardoz then? True christians are those who profess faith and bear false witness? True christians are those who are ignorant, vain, boastful insulting liars? Interesting...
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Working on it. Apparently we are still waiting for to to be graded (it was really big, at leat 20 typed pages). I plan on buying from them when they get it back, and maybe putting up a whole page in honor of it. Partly because I think it is very telling, partly because I remember what it was like to be in college and g...
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The debate has been settled a long time ago. and also about dragons!
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What a foolish, foolish thing to say.I have any number of Swedish relatives who own incredibly lovely homes, each of which would probably take close to a million dollars or more to replicate in the United States. They own summer cabins as well, and automobiles and oodles of stuff not visible and not my business to know...
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Surely, we can only "guesstimate" how many living species have escaped our attention ? But how probable is it that only 1% of all the species that ever existed escaped extinction ? I think your point about mass extinctions may be a key to what has puzzled me.
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i'm not talking about talk radio, i'm talking about rctv, the venezuelan station that had its licence withdrawn. i'm saying that if a us station were advocating the violent overthrow of the government, as rctv did, then it would lose its licence in a flash, not the 5 years the venezuelan government put up with it. i'm ...
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If that is a human being, then is my kidney a human being too?
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Genocide, are you on drugs? What the hell are you talking about? Just don't burn and American flag in front of me and you won't have to worry about it...........
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to be honest with you, i'm mildly amused at best.
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here's the thing about stem cell research... how would stem cell research go against the christian faith. does it go against christ to heal the sick? medicnes could improve greatly with the use of stem cell research. i'll quicky mention 2 people (1 still alive and one dead) who could have (or could be) greatly healed w...
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jim and ghost, i think you both missed my point. my fault, i should have been more clear. total disarmament was never my intention. my point was, what kind of military might do you think it would take to pacify loosely organized militias of americans fighting an islamic occupier? at what cost? do you think they could ...
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And those who respect themselves and others don't need that book of morality.
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Again, it's not the point. There are many who don't deny evolution, they believe it was guided. Showing examples of guidence - through artificial selection supports this theory
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i too am impressed by detrean's post. is he not an example to the likely solution though? as growing numbers of people in america get sick of this bickering between two extreme groups, they will look to centre-ground polititians with a tolerance of differing views to fill the void and provide an alternative form of gov...
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that's like making a point that if a woman didn't go out scantily-dressed, there would be no rape in the first place. i'm flabbergasted you'd even put those two in the same category. on a side note, where were all you folks with your outrage when this was going on a few years ago: ..... christians in gaza fear for th...
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So it's your contention that hundreds of thousands of firearms stolen from residences annually is just par for the course?
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Yes, everyone is a "potential" felon. Fortunately most people never commit a felony. And there are many different types of weapons, all which could be used by previously law abiding citizens to commit an act of violence.
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What can ya expect when they killed free speech in favor of hate speech tribunals? Diversity at work maybe?
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Lots of makers are still churning out lever action rifles. I am sad to see Winchester closed, but sad feelings is not a good financial reason to keep a poorly run company open.
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So you being unwilling to back up your AD HOMINEM is somehow like a serial killer being nice? What a pathetic deflection attempt!
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