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[1877.00 --> 1880.00] Uh, this was posted on the forum by Big Strooms, by the way. |
[1880.00 --> 1883.00] And the original article is from guru3d.com. |
[1883.00 --> 1889.00] But, uh, I think Apple might have forced Dell's hand a little bit here. |
[1889.00 --> 1902.00] I think Dell was really hoping to have, you know, um, to resurrect the expensive monitor business that has basically disappeared since 30 inch, 2560 by 1600 monitors. |
[1902.00 --> 1907.00] Well, those never came down in price, but the 2560 by 1440 27 inch varieties did. |
[1907.00 --> 1908.00] Oh, yeah. |
[1908.00 --> 1911.00] And ever since that business kind of went away, it looks like they were trying to resurrect this. |
[1911.00 --> 1923.00] They wanted $2,500 for a monitor and then Apple turned around and bitch slapped them by giving you a fairly decent computer attached to that same panel in a beautiful enclosure for $3,500. |
[1923.00 --> 1926.00] So, no brainer. |
[1926.00 --> 1927.00] Go for the... |
[1927.00 --> 1930.00] And you could use that computer as a monitor, right? |
[1930.00 --> 1931.00] No. |
[1931.00 --> 1932.00] Really? |
[1932.00 --> 1933.00] The iMac? |
[1933.00 --> 1934.00] There's no functionality for that at all? |
[1934.00 --> 1935.00] No. |
[1935.00 --> 1936.00] Um, older iMacs, yes. |
[1936.00 --> 1940.00] They had some feature, I forget what it's called, who cares, it's an Apple feature. |
[1940.00 --> 1943.00] Um, but like, I wish they just had a display input. |
[1943.00 --> 1949.00] But this one uses, um, so, and actually Dell's implementation is very different from Apple's, I'll talk about that in a moment. |
[1949.00 --> 1955.00] But the Apple one uses a custom wider, like it's physically wider and has more pins. |
[1955.00 --> 1958.00] It is a non-standard DisplayPort connector. |
[1958.00 --> 1959.00] Interesting. |
[1959.00 --> 1962.00] That they worked with AMD on, presumably. |
[1962.00 --> 1967.00] Uh, that they, in order to drive that panel as a single tile display. |
[1967.00 --> 1970.00] So what that means is, there is no input. |
[1970.00 --> 1971.00] Right. |
[1971.00 --> 1972.00] That could drive it. |
[1972.00 --> 1973.00] Yeah. |
[1973.00 --> 1974.00] Alright then. |
[1974.00 --> 1975.00] Yeah, so I get it. |
[1975.00 --> 1976.00] Yeah. |
[1976.00 --> 1980.00] And I understand that it is better to have a single tile display, so you don't see that weird tearing. |
[1980.00 --> 1982.00] We have one dual tile display in the office. |
[1982.00 --> 1983.00] Not really fair. |
[1983.00 --> 1984.00] And it's not an ideal solution. |
[1984.00 --> 1988.00] Um, but Dell's is going to be a dual tile display. |
[1988.00 --> 1992.00] So it'll use two DisplayPort inputs, because DisplayPort 1.3 isn't here yet. |
[1992.00 --> 1997.00] And it'll have, um, okay here, I guess I might as well just do a general spec. |
[1997.00 --> 1999.00] I don't know if I would move up yet then. |
[1999.00 --> 2005.00] A 5120 by 2880 resolution with 8 millisecond gray to gray response times, a thousand to one contrast ratio, |
[2005.00 --> 2011.00] 350, uh, hold on, oh, 178, 178 viewing angles. |
[2011.00 --> 2015.00] So basically, basically anywhere you would ever be looking at the screen. |
[2015.00 --> 2019.00] It's got a double anti-reflective coating to allow more light to pass through the glass in the panel. |
[2019.00 --> 2022.00] Features an anti-smudge coating to help wipe away fingerprints. |
[2022.00 --> 2026.00] Uh, 99% RGB, 100% sRGB color space. |
[2026.00 --> 2030.00] And calibrated with a color, Delta-color, Delta-E of less than two. |
[2030.00 --> 2032.00] 12-bit internal processing. |
[2032.00 --> 2035.00] So it's a 12-bit lookup table and the panel is 10-bit. |
[2035.00 --> 2040.00] So it would be potentially useful for folks who use Adobe applications on Quadro, |
[2040.00 --> 2044.00] or, um, Crap Fire Pro cards. |
[2044.00 --> 2047.00] Um, and they want to work in 10-bit color. |
[2047.00 --> 2050.00] Although the workflow is still fairly broken. |
[2050.00 --> 2052.00] And, yeah. |
[2052.00 --> 2055.00] So, yeah. |
[2055.00 --> 2060.00] I guess there's not really much else to say about it other than I don't think it makes a ton of sense. |
[2060.00 --> 2062.00] I was gonna say, I don't, I don't personally think it's ready. |
[2062.00 --> 2064.00] I don't know if I would jump yet. |
[2064.00 --> 2066.00] If I wanted a 5k monitor, I don't think this would be it. |
[2066.00 --> 2072.00] If Windows, uh, is able to start scaling better. |
[2072.00 --> 2073.00] That's a big problem. |
[2073.00 --> 2082.00] Then this would be, actually, I would see this as the way to go for productivity applications versus media consumption. |
[2082.00 --> 2086.00] Because it is exactly four times 2560 by 1440. |
[2086.00 --> 2088.00] So the scaling could be relatively simple. |
[2088.00 --> 2098.00] That's one of the reasons that it speculated that Apple went with 5k as opposed to 4k or Ultra HD, excuse me, for the iMac retina. |
[2098.00 --> 2103.00] Um, cause really you didn't need to go 5k on that to make it retina. |
[2103.00 --> 2104.00] Like it's overkill. |
[2104.00 --> 2106.00] It's insanely sharp. |
[2106.00 --> 2107.00] Yeah. |
[2107.00 --> 2115.00] Um, but, the flip side of that argument is that 5k is not going to be as good for content consumption. |
[2115.00 --> 2118.00] Because you are going to get interpolation. |
[2118.00 --> 2122.00] Because you're gonna be running any movie content at a non-native res. |
[2122.00 --> 2125.00] And there will be no 5k content anytime soon. |
[2125.00 --> 2133.00] So upscaling from 1080p to 4k has that advantage of being exactly four times, excuse me, two times the resolution, four times the pixel count. |
[2133.00 --> 2139.00] Um, and then scaling to 5k is just sort of a random arbitrary amount more than that. |
[2139.00 --> 2143.00] So, there you go. |
[2143.00 --> 2149.00] I see 5k as the creator resolution and I see 4k as the consumer resolution. |
[2149.00 --> 2156.00] But we're a long way away from either of them really being practical in Windows because of the way that UI elements scale so poorly. |
[2156.00 --> 2158.00] So, so, so poorly. |
[2158.00 --> 2160.00] Not good at all. |
[2160.00 --> 2168.00] And that was kind of, uh, almost like sad seeing you work on your Mac knowing that it's 5k and like it's fine. |
[2168.00 --> 2169.00] Yeah, I know right? |
[2169.00 --> 2170.00] Come on Windows. |
[2170.00 --> 2171.00] It looks great. |
[2171.00 --> 2172.00] It does. |
[2172.00 --> 2173.00] I'm like, damn it. |
[2173.00 --> 2176.00] Like every single time we hook up a 4k monitor to a computer, I'm like, this is unusable. |
[2176.00 --> 2177.00] Like it looks so stupid. |
[2177.00 --> 2181.00] And then you turn on the scaling and it's like, now just some things are unusual. |
[2181.00 --> 2182.00] Yeah, yeah. |
[2182.00 --> 2185.00] It's like, this is still super stupid. |
[2185.00 --> 2186.00] What are you doing? |
[2186.00 --> 2188.00] Oh, it's really frustrating. |
[2188.00 --> 2197.00] Oh, we've got Scopeopex on Twitch chat saying letterbox equals no weird interpolation. |
[2197.00 --> 2203.00] Come on man, you're gonna buy a 5k monitor and then you're gonna run black bars on all sides of your content. |
[2203.00 --> 2205.00] Are you kidding me? |
[2205.00 --> 2207.00] That's even worse. |
[2207.00 --> 2216.00] I would rather, I would rather have approximations than gigantic black bars all across, all around the content. |
[2216.00 --> 2222.00] Speaking of black bars all around the content, this was originally posted by Sephiroth on the forum. |
[2222.00 --> 2226.00] Origin PC to sell, copy the link URL, sorry I'm just copying the link for you guys. |
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