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[387.10 --> 391.56] of the contributions that i make are not code related and historically i think the ruby hero
[391.56 --> 396.60] awards have been focused on folks making code contributions um but the stuff that i do is way
[396.60 --> 402.50] more community focused than it is code focused and i think uh part of the reason why it's
[402.50 --> 407.46] that the ruby hero awards have been code focused is because that's easy to measure you can look at
[407.46 --> 412.68] a github profile and there it is um and the stuff i do is a little bit less visible but i was very
[412.68 --> 420.68] surprised and honored very good let's move on to zachary scott zach thing said of you uh during the
[420.68 --> 425.66] award ceremony was that he has made 500 commits to rails over the past two years making him the number
[425.66 --> 431.86] five contributor over that period and he does extensive documentation work and brings in and
[431.86 --> 438.82] facilitates new contributors to the ruby ecosystem so congrats on the ruby hero award and could you
[438.82 --> 445.86] speak about why you think the community thought you earned it yeah thank you um
[445.86 --> 456.18] i think a lot of people notice my contributions most in documentation um which is great i worked really
[456.18 --> 464.68] hard on that so it's nice to it's nice to get that feedback from people um so i think that's probably
[464.68 --> 474.64] why uh most people have recognized me from i'm sensing a theme here we have nobu who's who's patching ruby
[474.64 --> 480.70] and we have eileen who's touching the bugs that nobody else wants to touch and we have you uh who's doing
[480.70 --> 488.88] documentation uh again something that not very many people necessarily think is a fun thing to do it do
[488.88 --> 493.62] you enjoy documentation or do you just realize like it's it's something that has to be done and i'm going
[493.62 --> 502.22] to do it so actually i don't write so many docs these days i but it's how i got kind of got started
[502.22 --> 510.20] and like fixing doc bugs and stuff and basically it's just turned into helping new contributors who
[510.20 --> 516.78] want to contribute to open source and the best way that i know is through docs so helping people
[516.78 --> 521.72] with patches and merging them is basically how i've gotten so many commits at this point
[521.72 --> 529.08] um but i'm you know i'm focusing on other stuff uh the docs is is super super great that people
[529.08 --> 534.68] appreciate that and it's really important but there's many other areas that need attention
[534.68 --> 543.12] for sure absolutely let's move on to jeremy jeremy evans uh jeremy things said of you is that he's not
[543.12 --> 549.36] only the creator and maintainer of several brilliant libraries foremost among them the peerless sequel
[549.36 --> 557.76] if anybody out there has used the sequel library that's s-e-q-u-e-l is a really cool uh toolkit for
[557.76 --> 562.66] working with databases and the sequel library is a massive body of intellectual work mostly
[562.66 --> 567.56] contributed by one person just look at the size scope and breadth of the work it's astounding
[567.56 --> 574.82] jeremy congrats on the ruby hero award and can you speak to the experience at all yeah it was uh it was
[574.82 --> 580.68] great thank you for having me on the show um i've been nominated actually multiple times for many of the
[580.68 --> 588.24] past years um and it's it was a very big honor to finally win this year um i i just i mostly work on
[588.24 --> 593.12] sequel that's the main project i work on and uh one of the reasons that people not admitted me uh in
[593.12 --> 597.82] addition to working on most of the code is also being very quick to fix bugs which is in the ruby
[597.82 --> 602.92] community often not the fastest thing people focus on a lot of times programmers focus on features
[602.92 --> 609.02] whereas i focus foremost on fixing bugs and only after all the bugs are fixed do i work on new features
[609.02 --> 617.38] very good sam sam saffron you may know him from his work on discourse uh our last but not least
[617.38 --> 624.42] ruby hero of 2015 sam thing said about you at the award show was his work on ruby and rails performance
[624.42 --> 630.42] since he started working on discourse has been a breath of fresh air in the ruby community as well
[630.42 --> 636.24] as everyone wants faster programs you do anything about it he's championed and written speed
[636.24 --> 644.06] and benchmarking utilities for years sam congrats on the win welcome to the show and tell us about
[644.06 --> 651.46] your ruby hero award um well thanks for having me here and um thanks again for the award it was also
[651.46 --> 659.28] a surprise um it was mainly a surprise because i haven't been like you know full-on in ruby for
[659.28 --> 665.32] longer than discourse and discourse is only two and a half years old approaching three years old so
[665.32 --> 671.90] uh it feels like you know a lot happened in the last few years and i kind of transformed from this
[671.90 --> 681.62] .net developer now into this hardcore ruby developer but um yeah it's uh i think i got it not not not for
[681.62 --> 689.40] my code but more for um my blog and the way that i talk about things and mention things and
[689.40 --> 696.24] uh bother people about their programs being slow uh it's funny because i i do commit a lot like if
[696.24 --> 701.24] you look at my github commits it's like there there is a lot because everything that i do is an open
[701.24 --> 708.00] source every gem that i work on and discourse uh but really the thing that did cause this to happen was
[708.00 --> 714.28] me writing about the performance and actually opening this world to a bunch of people that had no idea
[714.28 --> 721.80] of how to do these things yeah and you also have a specific library was a mini profiler i believe
[721.80 --> 727.48] which has become quite popular in the last couple years i think it was referenced in the awards ceremony
[727.48 --> 734.76] as well can you tell everybody about that project so yes so mini profiler is a tool that um kind of
[734.76 --> 741.56] gives you a number of how fast your page took to render on the server uh on the top left hand side
[741.56 --> 747.88] and you can run that in production or development and always be aware of how fast your web website is
[747.88 --> 753.64] uh the thing is it's it's designed to work from the start we designed it to work in production so
[753.64 --> 759.32] admins see it and admins are always aware of how fast the site is and then you don't get these big
[759.32 --> 766.60] surprises uh later on so it's kind of like new relic but always there and always for you to see it's
[766.60 --> 774.12] more focused about the immediate um uh experience as opposed to kind of graphs and long-term performance
[776.84 --> 782.84] and on top of that there's also a few other open source tools i've got a memory profile of a
[782.84 --> 791.40] profiling memory in ruby 2.1 and 2.2 i've got message bus which is kind of like uh uh action cable which
[791.40 --> 796.52] is going to come out but it's been around for two years now and it doesn't depend on event machine
[796.52 --> 809.24] and a bunch of other things um um and uh yeah and discourse of course which is um huge and we've got logster
[809.24 --> 815.48] as well which is uh for looking at um logs in production in a or in development in like a web ui
[815.48 --> 821.80] you can just put that rack middleware in your app and you can see your logs immediately uh and yeah
[821.80 --> 826.76] there's a bunch of other stuff but those would be a few of the big ones awesome and sam we actually
[826.76 --> 831.40] have you in our backlog for a list of people we'd like to get on the show we had you to talk about
[831.40 --> 835.88] discourse so maybe we can line that up uh sometime in the near future and get you on here that would be
[835.88 --> 839.40] great in depth into discourse and all the cool open source stuff that you guys are putting out there
[839.40 --> 845.64] actually i did want to mention one thing um with about eileen um one thing that was uh
[846.76 --> 852.12] i was really happy to hear that eileen got the award because there was this part of mini profiler
[852.12 --> 858.12] that we really needed to refactor for ages it was like in the too hard basket nobody wanted to touch it
[858.12 --> 865.48] it involved changing every single class and it was like this enormous patch and uh yeah she just actually
[865.48 --> 870.84] it was one of her first projects in the ruby world was to just take this completely impossible
[870.84 --> 876.84] task and just do it and it came through and i was really happy about that so yeah thank you
[877.56 --> 881.40] yeah i wanted to work on something that i knew no one else was gonna finish before i did
[882.92 --> 887.24] because it was the first thing i was gonna do in open source and i i just you know it's like really
[887.24 --> 891.24] demoral like and i know that i've seen it happen to other people too and like it's happened to me it's
[891.24 --> 895.32] really demoralizing when you spend like really long hours on something and then someone else
[895.32 --> 897.24] sends a patch like right before you do and you're like
[899.96 --> 900.36] shit
[903.40 --> 910.04] yeah we still learn a lot but you know it's but uh yeah since you know it wasn't it was nice and i
[910.04 --> 915.24] think a lot more projects should do this like have a here's the things like we really need help on list
[915.24 --> 920.12] and that's like made it was obvious that was something that that needed to be worked on and so
[920.12 --> 925.32] that's kind of like how i ended up working on it because it was in one of our projects and i
[925.32 --> 929.88] looked at the issues and i fixed one minor thing and then i was like oh this is not so bad
[932.20 --> 937.08] i can fix these other things well good thing you move fast enough i know another thing that happens
[937.08 --> 942.12] sometimes in fact i just saw it yesterday uh with a with a tool called ccat which is like
[942.76 --> 946.84] it does it's a cat tool that also does syntax highlighting so like you cat the file
[946.84 --> 952.76] and it got on hacker news or somewhere that i was reading and um you know immediately there
[952.76 --> 957.24] were like five or six alternatives that have existed for between like three months and ten years
[957.80 --> 961.96] that they just didn't realize you know like oh this problem has been solved so sometimes you're
[961.96 --> 965.48] racing somebody else you don't even know it sometimes it's been solved for ten years and
[965.48 --> 970.68] um you know a little due diligence saves us some time but it's always fun to hack anyways so
[970.68 --> 977.00] that actually leads me into to a question uh just here in uh sam and eileen kind of cross chat which
[977.00 --> 985.08] we love is uh how many of you all know each other uh either just online by reputation or personally and
[985.08 --> 992.76] then also uh in real life just kind of hop in there if you know somebody and and we'll go from there
[994.20 --> 998.60] i've met zach a couple times at conferences but i don't think i've met i don't mention i've met
[998.60 --> 1003.80] yo boo at a couple of concert conferences as well yeah zach and i both live in san francisco and
[1003.80 --> 1010.68] we've done karaoke together yeah everybody knows zach zach is around he's always been around so
[1013.08 --> 1020.28] i met him in sydney when he visited yeah i met nobu at ruby kaii long long ago i think like maybe 2010