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[3131.34 --> 3138.26] servers is it like the uh the u2 song for apple you you push it out to five million or 50 million |
[3138.26 --> 3144.18] or 100 million people at once that's right right into their into their music right exactly our users |
[3144.18 --> 3150.60] opted into it i was gonna say that backfired a little bit that did um well alex we have a couple |
[3150.60 --> 3155.98] questions we'd like to close with i know that uh kelly probably helped out by uh feeding those |
[3155.98 --> 3162.88] questions to you um jared which which one should we ask we ask them all we got a few minutes we got |
[3162.88 --> 3167.86] some time we got to do programming hero yeah okay so let's start there who's your programming hero |
[3167.86 --> 3173.44] uh that's a great question um you know there's a number of them i think the one that takes the |
[3173.44 --> 3182.00] hat though is john gilmore do you guys know john gilmore i do not so john um the early unix guy um he |
[3182.00 --> 3190.46] did the original public domain implementation of of tar um he also founded a group of cypherpunks he was |
[3190.46 --> 3197.28] the oh yeah the electronic frontier foundation uh one of the coolest moments um i met him really |
[3197.28 --> 3202.56] early in my career when i was in high school actually a mentor of mine in high school um said |
[3202.56 --> 3207.42] hey you should write a paper on the digital millennium copyright act uh that would be a |
[3207.42 --> 3212.06] great senior paper to write and i'm like okay having no clue what that was about and then my friend was |
[3212.06 --> 3217.76] like and i have a buddy coming over that can help review it for you i'm like okay so i write i write a |
[3217.76 --> 3222.44] paper on the digital millennium copyright i could john gilmore founder of the eff reviews my senior |
[3222.44 --> 3230.26] paper on the dfca it's like uh and then what do you have to say about it i mean the the conversation |
[3230.26 --> 3234.82] was fine i mean i was so green and had no idea about any of this stuff uh i didn't even know like |
[3234.82 --> 3240.44] yeah you know this was pre-mozilla and pre-everything um and you know i think it was just a nice you know |
[3240.44 --> 3246.20] conversation he wasn't too hard on me um but it uh that he definitely has a lot of respect of mine |
[3246.20 --> 3251.14] because of his stance on you know online civil liberties as well as um you know he's directly |
[3251.14 --> 3255.98] contributed to really core technology in the unix world you know tar it doesn't get much better |
[3255.98 --> 3265.38] than that right um so i would have to say john gilmore awesome well um for core os the app |
[3265.38 --> 3271.46] apps uh the uh app container standard uh anything that you're working on what is a call to arms what |
[3271.46 --> 3276.90] is a way that the listeners of the show they're either professional open source developers enthusiasts |
[3276.90 --> 3282.84] hackers whatever you want to call them um you know how can they step in where could you best use |
[3282.84 --> 3289.12] um the help i guess from from the listeners of the show and the crowd that uh collects around open |
[3289.12 --> 3295.24] source sure i mean i'd say overall it's like hey all of this from the core os perspective is about our |
[3295.24 --> 3300.16] goal to secure the internet uh and so there are a number of different ways you can contribute to that |
[3300.16 --> 3305.30] one key part of that that's very timely right now is about application interoperability |
[3305.30 --> 3311.68] between platforms and that's app container and rocket we could use help on rocket itself as a |
[3311.68 --> 3317.42] tool but also and more importantly we need third-party implementations of app container to exist in |
[3317.42 --> 3322.16] different languages um so that means let's say you're running uh existing configuration management |
[3322.16 --> 3327.26] system and and you want that to output a container instead of you know manipulate a running host that |
[3327.26 --> 3331.46] would be a great way to to like build an app container image or maybe you are working with |
[3331.46 --> 3337.22] a language specific stuff you're a node.js guy we should be able to build tools that that in the |
[3337.22 --> 3343.36] native node.js tool set output a container image um to allow portability um you know and and things |
[3343.36 --> 3349.04] like that so i would say today we use the most help on is is our third-party implementations of |
[3349.04 --> 3354.62] of the specification to know that we truly have built an interoperable spec that works well for people |
[3354.62 --> 3360.48] um and the spec is just getting to the point right now where we're about ready for that um so i would |
[3360.48 --> 3364.44] say that's the most timely one but hey if you're up for securing the internet we got systems |
[3364.44 --> 3369.50] programming for you with the operating system we have rocket container stuff we have etcd distributed |
[3369.50 --> 3373.50] database i mean all of these things are components toward this bigger vision and we can use help on |
[3373.50 --> 3380.16] all fronts any chance you got a link to third-party spec for what you mentioned there um yeah sharing |
[3380.16 --> 3388.82] the show notes it's on yeah it's github slash app c a p p c uh for app container so uh okay github slash app c |
[3388.82 --> 3393.30] we'll uh we'll trudge through there and figure out where it's at and throw the link in the show |
[3393.30 --> 3399.30] so if you're listening check out the show notes for that link um and i guess the the last question |
[3399.30 --> 3405.20] is kind of fun since we do have uh we do have oh we're past time 21 seconds i'm just kidding um |
[3405.20 --> 3410.12] the last question is sort of fun so have fun with this one what would you be doing if you weren't |
[3410.12 --> 3416.78] doing x and that x being whatever you're doing now so right now you are a ceo of of uh core os and |
[3416.78 --> 3421.68] what you're doing now but if you weren't doing that what would you be doing well the short answer |
[3421.68 --> 3427.30] is what i'm doing a lot of ceo core os is not able to actually hack on the products directly and |
[3427.30 --> 3431.34] doing a lot of other things and so i would not be doing those other things and just working on the |
[3431.34 --> 3436.28] product um but that's the more short-term thing i think overall you know i spent a lot of time |
[3436.28 --> 3441.82] after rack space and the acquisition trying to figure out what to what to work on next and this |
[3441.82 --> 3446.42] mission and what we're on right now is where we ended up and i couldn't be happier than than what |
[3446.42 --> 3450.78] we're doing right now in the work that that this team is doing so i'm right where i want to be which |
[3450.78 --> 3456.24] is you know that makes us pretty defensible towards ever being like you know acquired or being killed |
[3456.24 --> 3460.46] or something because we're building the exact things we we want to build and getting good traction |
[3460.46 --> 3465.72] on it um so really happy but in in the micro sense i would i would die if i could work a little bit |
[3465.72 --> 3470.92] more on the actual products and tech and red code and that kind of stuff uh because that's really what i |
[3470.92 --> 3479.08] really what i love any fun hobbies come to mind that aren't exactly job or tech related um yeah i |
[3479.08 --> 3484.52] there's kind of we've gotten windsurfing and things like that in the past by the way yeah i have these |
[3484.52 --> 3490.30] uh these little inflatable kayaks that i take out everywhere um and so they're these little |
[3490.30 --> 3496.18] kayaks they're actually for like white water rafting in alaska when you need to hike up a big you |
[3496.18 --> 3500.70] know you're hiking somewhere that requires a river crossing um and i take those things out |
[3500.70 --> 3505.14] uh even last night i was out on the bay uh with my little kayaks but they're so small you can put |
[3505.14 --> 3508.82] them uh like in your carry-on luggage and just take them with you wherever you want to go |
[3508.82 --> 3513.88] uh so i really uh i have fun playing out in the water and those things you know on the surf or out |
[3513.88 --> 3519.86] in lakes or in rivers and that kind of stuff so i don't know i enjoy the outdoors yeah well good deal |
[3519.86 --> 3525.36] alex again thanks uh for coming on and kelly in the background i know you're still there thank you for |
[3525.36 --> 3532.46] making this uh time possible for alex um i also want to thank we mentioned rackspace already as one |
[3532.46 --> 3537.56] of the sponsors for this show but we got two other sponsors fantastic sponsors by the way code ship |
[3537.56 --> 3544.02] top towel people have emailed me and said they cannot understand when i say top towel i can't help it i'm |
[3544.02 --> 3551.60] sorry their business is called top towel t-o-p-t-a-l i'm assuming they they named the business name |
[3551.60 --> 3558.76] short after top talent so uh t-o-p-t-a-l.com by the way if you're that person or those several people |
[3558.76 --> 3565.46] who have emailed me and said dude what are you saying um that's what i'm saying top top um and |
[3565.46 --> 3569.52] still it's it's still unrecognizable and of course rackspace we thank them for |
[3569.52 --> 3576.86] uh their support for uh for this show and whatnot so let's uh let's say goodbye fellas great show |
[3576.86 --> 3578.94] goodbye all right thanks bye |
[3599.52 --> 3600.02] you |
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