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**Blake Mizerany:** Thank you for having me. |
**Erik St. Martin:** It's been a lot of fun. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Thank you, bye. |
**Blake Mizerany:** Take it easy. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** What a bummer that he had to leave so early. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I know... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Why do we all have to have jobs? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** And now, who wants to work? \[laughter\] The good news is there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in the Go community, so we can talk a lot about all of the exciting things that have been happening. I've seen a thousand cool Go projects this week. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Before we jump on this, why don't we talk about one of our sponsors? Because this is a nice, clean break, and then we can jump into some interesting Go projects and news. |
**Break:** \[21:05\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** You had mentioned too that all of the new Changelog stuff is hosted on Linode - which, if anybody has not seen yet, you should go check out the new Changelog site and the new GoTime.fm site. Adam and Jerod and the team have been working tirelessly on this for I don't know how many months, and it is... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yay, Fastly! |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Fastly's awesome. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I'm excited because it's written in Elixir and Phoenix, and I would love to see the code. I know that in their blog post they mentioned that they planned on open sourcing it, so I'm really looking forward to seeing an implementation of a serious system in Phoenix, so that I can get a better idea of ... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, actually an interesting point that I forgot to mention is that they're releasing all of this open source, so if you plan on running your own podcast or a series of podcasts, you've got the hookup from Changelog. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** But any CMS in general... This is a CMS that they podcast content on top of. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's true. You could just use it as a CMS. Adam in the GoTime FM channel is saying they're still polishing some things up in the readme and stuff, but it won't be long. If you're subscribed to Changelog Weekly, you will see when it's announced. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** If you're subscribed to Changelog Weekly, you'll see it at the top of the coolest GitHub repository list. Oh, that's the Changelog Nightly... Never mind. That's my trigger to go to bed, did I ever mention that? Changelog Nightly comes out at midnight every night, and I'm like "Oh shoot, it's time to... |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[23:56\] See, I get all these newsletters and there's always cool things in there and I don't have time, so I'll typically have multiple browser windows open, which are kind of like context, work and non-work, and the non-work one is always full of all the tabs that come from these emails and Twit... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well, that's a problem... I've been so busy lately I haven't even looked at most of the good stuff. I have a giant list of things that look interesting to touch, and I haven't played with them at all, which makes me sad. Although I did do something pretty cool this week that's kind of funded. If you... |
**Erik St. Martin:** When you open source it, is it gonna have Hightower in it? Because it helps facilitate giving live demos, like Kelsey. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[laughs\] I don't know. I've been trying to think about a name for it, and... I wanted something with Frankenstein in the name for it, because it's just this giant ball of spaghetti garbage code right now. At this point, I'm calling it Present Term, but who knows... Names accepted. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think it was Brad that called you on that, that he did it at the first GopherCon. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I saw that this morning, I was so mad. Here I was, thinking I was trailblazing; Brad did it in 2014. Thanks, Brad. Shut me down! |
**Erik St. Martin:** There are no great inventions. Somebody else has already done it before you. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I know... Cranky. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So let's talk about some other news and projects that everybody's run across this week. Carlisia, have you got anything for us? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I do, actually. I work a lot with APIs, and some time ago I googled... You know, I have this JSON, I have to write a struct for it. Maybe there's a way to convert the JSON to structs, because you know, I'm lazy... And there was. I could not believe it, and it has such a nice UI. When I looked at ... |
It's JSON-to-Go... We'll put a link on the show notes. Basically, you drop some JSON and it magically transforms that into Go structs for you. This cannot get any easier. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's magical, I've used it dozens and dozens of times. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, right? Because you do this all the time. You're pinging an API, and you need to receive a struct. It's so handy to have that... You basically just copy the struct and put it in your code, and voila! In the same way, he has a curl-to-go tool, where you paste a cURL, let's say a call to an AP... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[27:55\] Those are great, good call. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I've got a fun one that I ran across, it was created by Nate Finch. I wanna say it's pronounced Gorram. It's really cool, it's like a command line application where you can specify a package, a method and parameters that you wanna call, all on the command line. It's like writing single-line Go apps... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, it's crazy. You can call any standard library function, and it will do all of the smart stuff to convert your Bash parameters into the correct types to make that call. I think I said on Twitter, it's one of the coolest hacks I've seen in forever. It's really neat. Shout out to Nate! |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I'm interested to see the motivation behind creating it. That's always the fun part for me... You run across these projects that are really cool and you start playing with them, but I want to understand what was going through somebody's head, what was the problem he was trying to solve with t... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Let's get him on the show. |
**Erik St. Martin:** We should. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** We should. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Nate's done a whole bunch of staff. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Noted. Nate Finch, on the show. If you're out there, Nate, we're looking for you. |
**Erik St. Martin:** No is not an acceptable answer. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[laughs\] I've got another one... I think it's Bjørn Erik Pedersen that released React in Go today, his Go React library for GopherJS. I played with it way back in December of last year, when it was really brand new, and it wasn't quite ready for primetime yet, and he's still kind of couching, sayi... |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's really interesting, because that typically is the way I'm doing web apps these days, kind of thick client with React and Go on the API side. So it would be interesting to see writing the React in Go. But I'm not always a big fan of that, because even in the Ruby world - and Carlisia and Bria... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Mm-hm. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I don't know whether it's still there, but it was pre three... There was something called RJS, where basically you wrote your JavaScript functionality calling into your app in your templates using Ruby, and it generated JavaScript on the outside. I was just never really a big fan of that. |
So it's kind of like doing the same thing and you wonder how much you wanna cross into the other side, but I'd be interested to see what the API for it looks like, because it may... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It looks very Go-ish, and it's really not bad. The fundamental problem I have with it is that you have to understand React before you can use Go React, and in order to understand React you've got to learn from all of the tutorials and places out there that are using the JavaScript version, or the JS... |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[32:10\] I think that falls into the leaky abstraction category, where you're trying to abstract some concept but you still have to have some deep understanding of the thing you're abstracting. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah. |
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