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**Brian Ketelsen:** There's some cool stuff happening out there. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** As always. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Really cool stuff. I think we have to start with the Gopher Academy Advent Series blog posts... If you haven't been following along with that, blog.gopheracademy.com. We've had some amazing blog posts this year. One new post every day, and I have to give a huge, huge shout out to Damian Gryski for s... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Without him I'd don't think there'd be a series this year. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It was not gonna happen, no. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Massive shout out. Also on the news of Damian, I recently saw that he was promoted to moderator of the Go Subreddit, which is awesome. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Head moderator. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Head moderator. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Head moderator. I couldn't think of anybody better. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Chief Gopher on campus. \[laughter\] That's Damian. He is the Head gopher. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Speaking of people who can make you feel like you have impostor syndrome, not only does he understand whitepapers, but he's got like all of them memorized. \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** And he implements them. Have you seen his GitHub repository? He implements them for fun. |
**Erik St. Martin:** He's this encyclopedia of whitepapers. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, that's pretty awesome. |
**Thorsten Ball:** His repository is super interesting. There's so much work in there, and it's super interesting. |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[56:10\] The other thing too is the Go Blog has a survey on there, which is blog.golang.org/survey2016, and they are kind of reaching out to the community to get an idea for use cases, in particular company use cases and the reasons why people are or aren't adopting, and whether they're continuing... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** There's a reason behind that, yes. |
**Erik St. Martin:** It's to capture your email. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah. \[laughs\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** It's all a trap. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** So there's a couple interesting news bits and some projects we should shout out. The first thing, this morning I woke up after -- first of all, eight hours of sleep, which is the first time I've had eight hours of sleep in like two weeks (Oh my god, it felt so good!)... So I woke up and there is a n... |
**Erik St. Martin:** I haven't installed it yet, but I saw some cool stuff with documentation popups, and there was a couple features where it pointed out in the gutter recursive calls, and all the exit points of a function. There were some kind of interesting things that I haven't seen in any plugins for other editors... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, nice. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, it looked really cool. And I know it had some refactoring stuff, and it was kind of expected from the IntelliJ suite. Yeah, it looks really cool. I'm too much of a Vim guy, so I can't guarantee I will convert to it, but I might at least download it and play with it. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** All of my students ask me, "What should I use for an IDE?" and many of them want a real IDE, so I kind of feel obligated to test them all out and play, and so far this looks pretty nice. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Lauren just pointed out in the GoTime Slack that they have a Vim mode plugin, so I guess now I really have to install it. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, you have no excuse now. |
**Thorsten Ball:** And it's actually pretty good, I've tried it. It's one of the better Vim mode plugins for other editors. It's really good. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Interesting. I'll try it, too. |
**Erik St. Martin:** You just recently converted too, right Carlisia? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Well, \[unintelligible 00:59:06.04\] but I've been going back to Atom a few times... I mean, I've been using Vim for a while, but recently with the Go plugin from Fatih, I went full-time. But sometimes I go back to Atom, if I'm doing a lot of copying and pasting and stuff. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Is that like a comfort food thing? I used to keep Sublime Text around when I first started Vim. It was probably a whole year where I had Sublime opened just for when I needed to copy and paste things. And then Erik sat me down -- literally, Erik sat me down at lunch and he's like, "Dude, I'm gonna t... |
**Erik St. Martin:** I ended up like pair-programming almost with him in his office for a little while... I think the reason why is because I was there; I'd tell him, "Just do what you need to do, let's cover the things that annoy you the most, and then anytime you think that something is taking too many steps to do, a... |
\[01:00:09.21\] That's kind of the way to do it - you just kind of have to accept that it's a little slow at first learning... Then once you have your foundation of commands, there are quicker ways to do stuff, but you're like "Who cares...? Do I really care whether it's four keystrokes or two? No, probably no." \[laug... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** So that was me last week, teaching a class on Kubernetes -- actually, it wasn't last week, it was this week... Teaching a class on Kubernetes to system administrators, and I'm on the big projector using Vim... Every two minutes it's "Oh, why didn't you use this movement? Why didn't you do this?" I w... |
**Erik St. Martin:** You gotta be \[unintelligible 01:00:51.29\] and use Notepad, remember? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Right. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That was the thing, I remember, in the web development world, where everybody would argue over IDEs... Like, "No, I use Notepad", or whatever Windows text editor is, and it's like, "That doesn't make you \[unintelligible 01:01:05.13\] Do you code professionally?" I couldn't imagine working eight ho... |
**Thorsten Ball:** Can you actually work without syntax highlighting? I probably see this only in the Go community that people willfully turn off syntax highlighting. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Brian is doing it. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, I turned off syntax highlighting maybe six or nine months ago, and I don't miss it at all. It took me three or four days, and now I agree with the other people - I think Andrew Gerrand was probably number one - who said it's much easier to read it without all of that colorization in your way. ... |
**Thorsten Ball:** Really? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I'm with you, Thorsten. I can't even try it. I can't even think of trying. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I still have it on. To be honest, I'll SSH into a machine that doesn't have syntax highlighting, and I'll work just fine for a little while. It won't bother me enough to try to set it up on that machine. So I feel like I could probably do it, but I think I might want somewhere in between, or at lea... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** See, I'm glad you mentioned that, because when I SSH into a machine I'll bring up Vim and I wanna kill myself because "Where is my highlights, shortcuts and everything?" \[laughter\] |
**Thorsten Ball:** But the thing is, if you forget to close a string with quotes, syntax highlighting is gonna tell you immediately, right? Because it highlights the rest of the line like a string. At least Vim does it, I don't know how other inferior editors... \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** We're gonna start a war now. |
**Thorsten Ball:** No, no, I'm not gonna go there. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Just to play devil's advocate here though, that stuff does -- one of the beautiful things about Vim is the performance of it. But when you have large files, and especially if they have long lines and you have syntax highlighting, that can cause painful issues in lag. It's almost nice thinking that ... |
I use different tools like the tag bar or whatever, in Vim, so that I have a layout of the functions to be able to jump - something like that would probably make it more easily swallowed, but I don't know... Maybe I'll try it one day, like give it a whole day and see how I feel. |
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