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**Brian Ketelsen:** This is like religion. You can't do that, Erik... \[laughter\] |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Yeah... I use Atom almost exclusively actually, with whatever that master Go plugin is that installs all the other go plugins. It's like MetaGo or something. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Gometalinter? |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** I think that's the one. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Atom has a Go package written by Joe somebody... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** It's called Go-plus. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, Go-plus, there you go. That installs all the other Go things. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I gotcha. I thought you were talking about all the static analysis tools and stuff. There's the big gometalinter that runs a series of them. |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** I think Go-plus installs metalinter. It may not install it directly, it may just install all the stuff that metalinter does; I can't quite remember. But yeah, I use Atom with Go-plus, and then I have to turn off goimports, which is a bummer, because it crashes my computer almost every day. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Your GOPATH is too big. |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Yeah, looking through all the Kubernetes' depths - not good. \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** I kid you not that I actually have a script run and kill the Go code binary every couple of minutes while I'm working on Docker or Kubernetes libraries. Because it just gets so bloated... I mean, Vim of all things becomes useless. It's like, press down, wait 30 seconds... So I have to constantly ha... |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** We have a similar problem. I just got Docker for Mac; I think it's out of beta, I can't quite remember. Whatever it is, it's the new Docker for Mac that runs on the ex-hive thing, that new ex-hive VM wrapper. I do all my Go development pretty much inside of a container, so I try to run govet. And... |
**Erik St. Martin:** See, I love the irony in this, though. Because you can sit back and be like, "Look at all this crazy stuff I build, and I still feel unqualified to operate a computer." \[laughter\] |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Exactly! It's funny... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** For me, it just comes back to the whole, "Why do I keep using a Mac?" But this isn't that show, so I'm walking away. |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Fair enough, I'll walk away, too. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I'll go next with the news... Can I? |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** So it was just made public that Steve Francia is joining the Go Language Team at Google. So happy about that! He wrote a blog post talking about what his role will be. It seems pretty awesome. |
\[39:53\] The other thing I wanted to mention is there is a repo with patterns in Go, and it looks pretty cool. It has an accompanying website with tables for each type of patterns, and a bunch of patterns inside each table, with the status. The status means if there is a code implementation for that or not, and it see... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Wow, this is Gang Of Four for Go. Do you see this link, Aaron? |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Yeah, this is pretty awesome. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's not the word I would've used. \[laughter\] |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I might have gotten this link from Aaron's repo. I'm not sure where I got it from. |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Yeah, I don't know if I put an issue in... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** There is one, yeah. |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Maybe there is. I saw this a couple of weeks ago, read through it at 3 AM... I actually think this is awesome, because it starts the discussion that essentially we had. They might not all be good patterns, but at least it starts. Everybody is talking about, "Do we need this for Go? Do we not? Wha... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Well, I think that there are some things in here that I can definitely see are ridiculously useful, like in building distributed systems, like circuit-breaker pattern. That's something you definitely want, otherwise you're gonna end up overloading systems. You definitely need to prevent doing thund... |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Yeah. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Let's take just a minute and thank our second sponsor, which is Backtrace. |
**Break:** \[41:42\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** I'm still caught up on these design patterns for Go, like holy cow! \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Walk away! |
**Erik St. Martin:** Somebody put some serious time in this. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** What I would love to see behind each of these is a conversation about whether these things belong in Go or not. Don't get me wrong, I love design patterns, and I love the concept of thinking about code architecturally, but I just think that there are some things that have absolutely no business in G... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I'm glad you mentioned that, Brian, because as we were talking before, I was thinking, wouldn't it be great if somebody could compile these idioms that at least you have been talking about, that Go has, that could be used in place of design patterns? If we could have a compilation of things and t... |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[43:54\] Yeah, more like, you know, you may be used to solving this with this pattern and this language, but this would be the way you would solve the same problem in Go. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Exactly. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Hey, we have new episodes of Go In 5 Minutes for you, Aaron. |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Alright. It's kind of like this whole page is... Each category might be an episode, or something. \[laughter\] |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah... \[laughs\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** Another topic that I wanted to talk about - did anybody see that post with Facebook implementing the DHTTP load balancer in Go? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I did. I read the whole darn thing. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's ridiculously cool. I know that Parse was using Go, and they got acquired by Facebook, but now here's stuff where Facebook's actually adopting Go, and at the rack level, which is awesome. |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** Yeah, it's really cool. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's very complicated. I think of DHTTP and I think, "Yeah, I've got a DHTTP server somewhere", and I've managed networks that had even two DHTTP servers, but not so many that you need gigantic failover redundant systems and craziness... That's just a scale thing that very few of us get to play with... |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's always the stuff that interests me, the ridiculous scale that you don't typically have to think about. |
**Aaron Schlesinger:** It looks like they use this to bootstrap containers. They have their own internal container system, that this link say is called Tupperware. And it looks like when their containers come up, they use this thing to bootstrap their services, which is kind of crazy to me. |
**Erik St. Martin:** And allocate IP addresses, and all that stuff. |
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