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**Adam Stacoviak:** I've got an answer for you... Own it! Just be the impostor, own it. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's right. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Absolutely. That's exactly it - just do it. And if you need to take it down a notch from the thing that you really wanna do, take it down a notch, but just go ahead and do it, because when you do it, you'll figure out it's not as painful as you thought. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, I agree. Put yourself out there. Everybody else knows just as little as you do, it's okay. And I think -- I don't remember where I saw it... I'm pretty sure it was on Twitter this morning - somebody said, very specifically, "Hey, you admit what you don't know, and own what you do." It was some... |
I think that makes wonderful sense - admit what you don't know, and own what you do. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** You know, the thing too is people fear that kind of stuff. I'm there too, but you just can't live in fear of judgment from other people, and it's so easy to say that and not live it, but that truly is the way out of impostor syndrome. It's like, care about how people feel about you, I guess, but don... |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[48:05\] So I happened to see a tweet last night too, and [it was funny](https://twitter.com/d12/status/857417347224809473). The Hip-Hop group D12 actually tweeted this. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** What...? |
**Erik St. Martin:** It' s a clip of Gary Vaynerchuk - I love that man; he's such a motivational guy - and part of his thing, he kind of talks about the movie 8 Mile, with Eminem. He's like what he figures out and what everybody should figure out is that if you own the things that you're not good at and you just put th... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** That's so true. When he won that battle by saying, "Here's all the things you might say about me and here's how I'm twisting it back on you", and he won the battle. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah. And Eminem in general, his music - it's all about owning it. Just be authentic and know that you have a value. I love Eminem. \[laughs\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think it's something you have to remind yourself of almost every day, too. The view that you see of people from the outside is not how they feel about themselves. You might hear us on the podcast and we may seem very outgoing and all these things, but it's a role we play, right? So behind the sce... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** We're all playing games here, okay? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** We are all faking it... \[laughs\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's a mask. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, we're not all as confident as we may seem. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Every Thursday I hang up and go cry in the corner. \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That reminds me very specifically... Somebody asked the question, "We would love to watch you code real time. Could you live-stream some coding?" and the first thing I thought was "Why in the sweet name of anybody would you wanna watch me fumbling around while writing code?" And that's impostor synd... |
**Erik St. Martin:** I'm terrible about it, and I'll fully admit... This show is actually me forcing myself to put myself out there and make mistakes, to say things wrong. It took me a while to even think about wanting to do this show, and I've become more and more comfortable with it, like "Hey, the world's not over i... |
Anybody who's willing to take those mistakes that you have and turn them against you is not worth your time anyway, so who cares what they think? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, that's the truth. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** A part of that is growing up and accepting constructively meant criticism or correction, too. When you leave your ego at the door, it's easy for you to accept somebody saying, "You really shouldn't have used a pointer there" or "You forgot the mutex", and that's perfectly acceptable for you to accep... |
**Erik St. Martin:** The next one is kind of a fun one, and I think it evolves from maybe a question that Scott Mansfield asked... It's "What emoji represents you best and why?" I'll start... So I added an emoji early on in the Slack; the character is Roz from Monsters Inc. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** "Always watching, Wazowski." |
**Erik St. Martin:** "Always watching..." and I think that's because I'm usually around; I watch Twitter, I watch Slack, but I'm not always actively engaged... I'm just watching. Anybody else? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** So you're a lurker... Self-professed. \[laughter\] Now we know. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Erik is totally a lurker. His Twitter behavior is very unique. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I always knew it... |
**Erik St. Martin:** But part of that is impostor syndrome, right? It's like, "Should I really say this?" |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I'm gonna take the easy way out and say that the barbecue gopher emoji is mine, because it's so true... And if I'm not coding, I'm barbecuing. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I was gonna use that one, but I felt that was too obvious. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[52:02\] It is, and I'm just totally copping out on that, sorry. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** There's a cop-out, it's pretty easy... Okay, so which one LEAST best describes you? Is that how you say that? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, that's probably good. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Least best, the opposite... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** The party parrot \[unintelligible 00:52:17.05\] I hate that party parrot! |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I'm not sure what it represents... What does it represent? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I don't know, but it's just obnoxious. It makes me wanna have a seizure. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** For me, I can't pick just one; I have to pick two, because it'll have to be the screaming one, or the laughing one... The one that has tears in the eyes, because most of the times that's where I am. I'm either screaming, or laughing, cracking up. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** If I had to pick one... In our Changelog Slack we actually have some custom ones. My wife put my face in there, so technically that would be the best one... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, come on... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** But if I'm looking at my frequently used list, sadly I like to wink a lot and thumbs up things... But I would say the one that represents me best is the 100 with two lines, because I'm down, always. I'm excited. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** This is true. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I'd say at least 98% of the time. The other two percent... It's just a better time, a different time. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Fake it till you make it. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. So 100% - that's something I actually say. I've been saying that in response to somebody, instead of saying "I agree" or "Cool" or whatever... I just say 100%. I've been doing it for years. Maybe I've heard it from somebody, I don't know, but people coin it... People say I started it, but I do... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Next. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, there's a question here from Joe Shaw... He says, "Maybe you can talk about your day jobs. You mentioned them a little bit in passing in shows, but as far as I can remember, you never really talk about what you do on a day-to-day basis. You work exclusively in Go?" Anybody want to take this f... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[laughs\] I think we talked about what I do on a day-to-day basis... I shoot gators and make barbecue. |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[laughs\] And think about Go while doing that. |
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