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**Adam Stacoviak:** What are you supposed to do?
**Brian Ketelsen:** Not necessarily in that -- no, that's not true. I teach Go and Kubernetes for a living, so if you need training for your company in Go or Kubernetes, I'm your guy. Lately, I've been spending a lot of time - since the first quarter is pretty quiet for training - building a completely self-driven onli...
**Adam Stacoviak:** Really?
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's true, and it's really awesome, actually.
**Adam Stacoviak:** I'm excited about that.
**Brian Ketelsen:** Really awesome...
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, I can't wait to take one of your classes.
**Adam Stacoviak:** That's a good question - how can someone take a class from you, Brian?
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well, they could bring me out to their company and I would do the class, or if it's just one-on-one, I do remote classes. I've been spending a lot of time over the last two months with a development group in the Ukraine. I get up really, really early and teach them, and that's a ton of fun.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Wow... Five in the morning?
**Brian Ketelsen:** I wish...
**Adam Stacoviak:** Three?
**Brian Ketelsen:** Four-thirty, yeah.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Wow, that's early... Too early.
**Brian Ketelsen:** But they're really sharp students and it's one of my favorite classes that I've done.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Carlisia works at one of my favorite companies.
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah... \[laughs\]
**Adam Stacoviak:** Fastly. I love Fastly.
**Carlisia Thompson:** And it's funny, because Joe Shaw works at Fastly too, and he's my coworker, and we work closely together.
**Erik St. Martin:** So he already knows the answer to this question. \[laughter\]
**Brian Ketelsen:** Cheater!
**Carlisia Thompson:** For one of us... He doesn't know for the two of you. He's the one who does code reviews for me, and vice versa. We're on the same team. Joe's awesome, by the way.
**Erik St. Martin:** So for the listeners who are not Joe Shaw, what do you do? \[laughter\]
**Carlisia Thompson:** \[55:53\] Yeah, I'm only doing Go... What else do I do? So I work for Fastly, and that's a CDN company, and I'm on a team that's rebuilding, let's say, the TLS and DNS management system, so there is a lot for me to learn in that domain.
**Brian Ketelsen:** Can you explain what a CDN is for those of us who do backend code?
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yes. CDN is what you would like to use if you want to reduce the latency of your website loading, because obviously the further physically the user is from where your content is sitting, the more latency there will be. So if you use a CDN, that CDN is going to replicate your content, and you're j...
Also, there are other features that you get with it, which is protection from DDoS attacks. The CDN will take care of that for you and offer security. The CDN is the front gate for your system. So a lot of things that you should be worrying about, if you use a CDN you won't have to. Besides the content replication, you...
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, and we actually use Fastly, so if you listen to this show via the podcast, not just live, the reason why it's so fast is because of Fastly. We use Fastly as a CDN to make our site fast, so if you go to Changelog.com, it's super fast... One, because of Elixir and Phoenix, but also because of Fa...
And it's so easy - if we have to purge something, it's easy to hop into the admin and purge something and replace it. Very, very easy to use. We track downloads through it, our whole stats platform is built on the API; we use version 2... A lot of fun stuff, I love it.
**Erik St. Martin:** How about you, Adam? Do you wanna talk about your day job?
**Adam Stacoviak:** My day job... \[laughter\] Jeez, I wear so many hats.
**Brian Ketelsen:** What do you do?
**Adam Stacoviak:** At any given moment, I could be on a podcast... Believe it or not, a large part of my job is sales. My lord, I do so much sales, it's crazy. Mostly relationships - that's probably the easiest way to describe what I do; it's really about relationships. Everybody from the software development communit...
I do lots of stuff. Talk on the mic, podcast, write scripts, order T-shirts, pass out stickers at conferences, shoot video, shoot pictures, edit photos, create Flickr accounts, tweet... I just do a lot of stuff, and it's really hard to compartmentalize what I do. The biggest thing though that I do - hopefully - and wha...
**Erik St. Martin:** \[59:58\] So then I guess I'll finish this up... At my day job, I'm actually a systems architect at Comcast in the cable division. For cable, there's really kind of two sides of it: there is the newer kind of IP-based delivery, similar to the way Netflix or Hulu delivers, and then there's what we c...
The software itself was written in C++... There was a question about all Go. I primarily work in Go; occasionally, I have to patch that software, but mostly another team works on that that's written in C++. But a lot of what I do is design and build the orchestration system surrounding that - how those video streams ge...
Anybody who's really interested in that, I actually did a talk back in November at KubeCon about this project, as we're kind of rolling out IP and how to leverage the same networks. [That's actually on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g4da6-JXfE), if anybody is actually really interested in it. But yeah... Mos...
**Brian Ketelsen:** And not just little patches either... Gigantic patches, awesome patches.
**Erik St. Martin:** The biggest patches ever...?
**Brian Ketelsen:** Some of your patches are crazy awesome, especially to Docker... So don't be shy.
**Erik St. Martin:** Another question from Joe Shaw - and this one especially is important because Adam is here - is "While I'm on the topic of behind the scenes stuff, I'm also interested in the production of the podcast itself." So do you wanna talk about how this show is done?
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, where do I start? Well, we get some people together... I'm just kidding. I think this show is a little bit different than other shows. For example, I'll compare it against the Changelog. That show is sort of like a two-on-one or a one-on-one kind of scenario where it's more conversational, whe...
We also don't do that show live, so it's... I don't think we can get the same kind of conversation if the show was live. When you do a show live like GoTime, you kind of have to inherit some things like, well, people are gonna be hanging out on Slack, and that's part of the show. It may not end up in the show, but it r...
We just figured with GoTime it would be best to start doing it live, and that's one big thing. So the way we do that, I guess the technical pieces of that - we have a web service called WaveStreamer, and we point Nicecast to it, and we just broadcast everybody here to that. That's the easiest way to describe that.
It works... I wouldn't say it's my favorite way of doing it, but it does work and it's been reliable. We only had one issue, and it was a user error (my error). The time we had those live issues, it was not tech fault, it was Adam's fault... I was an idiot.
\[01:03:48.01\] We have a pretty interesting setup here though. We have a tower that is about 21U's - I don't know why it's 21 and not 20, but whatever... 21U's, a multichannel interface, four Mac minis which act as individual Skype machines, and basically Erik, Brian, Carlisia and the guest tend to hang out on those f...
We track it into there, it's multichannel, so I'm in my own channel; Erik, Brian and Carlisia - they're in their own channels, so I can independently move around the timeline and make edits, and independently EQ or level each individual guest. That's why it's a little easier having crappier mics. Most of our guests don...
There's other ways to do podcasting. There's services out there that do some of this stuff... We've been educated what those services are and how they work and how they're better, but this is how we do it and this is how we like it... So there you go. That's pretty much it... What else can I share? What do you think?
**Erik St. Martin:** I'd like to give a shoutout to the unsung heroes.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Oh yeah, please.