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[2285.36 --> 2296.16] And then I have, like, SAS and Python and ESLint and also Babel ES6, ES7 syntax coloring one. |
[2297.62 --> 2298.72] And that's it. |
[2298.78 --> 2302.04] I should probably actually delete all these and start new. |
[2303.56 --> 2304.84] But, yeah, those are mine. |
[2304.84 --> 2310.58] I actually talked to Zenor Rocha about some backstory on Dracula, which is pretty interesting. |
[2311.54 --> 2312.08] Oh, cool. |
[2312.34 --> 2312.60] Yeah. |
[2312.66 --> 2319.66] On episode 248 of the Change Log, we talked to him about sort of like his open source lessons learned. |
[2319.88 --> 2319.96] Right. |
[2319.96 --> 2326.70] Like, his first introduction to open source was this jQuery boilerplate project. |
[2326.84 --> 2328.06] And so this is back in the day. |
[2328.64 --> 2337.82] And the very first, I guess, pull request was one that deleted all of his code and said start again because it was crap, basically. |
[2338.22 --> 2340.88] So it was a horrible introduction to open source, basically. |
[2340.88 --> 2340.96] Exactly. |
[2341.84 --> 2343.04] We talked through that. |
[2343.12 --> 2353.12] And then finally we got to this scenario where he was talking about just how he had, you know, his passion for making an editor look good. |
[2353.44 --> 2357.92] And he come up with this theme, Dracula, and how it's just blown up since then. |
[2358.02 --> 2362.76] Like, he started off with one and now it's been, you know, transplanted to everything, basically. |
[2362.86 --> 2363.04] Yeah. |
[2363.04 --> 2363.64] Vim, anything. |
[2364.28 --> 2364.46] Yeah. |
[2364.52 --> 2370.02] If you go to the Dracula site, it tells you all of the different places you can get it. |
[2370.40 --> 2370.80] Yeah. |
[2371.54 --> 2374.50] Dracula theme.com is the URL. |
[2374.84 --> 2379.88] So if you're tracking that on a listener, if you're in the Slack, boom, there it is. |
[2380.60 --> 2382.10] That's a pretty interesting project. |
[2382.20 --> 2388.40] And it's funny that you did say official because there are many, many imitators, not often duplicators. |
[2388.78 --> 2400.40] I also recently switched my font for programming to operator mono, which is not cheap, but it's beautiful. |
[2400.40 --> 2402.14] And it's really easy on the eyes. |
[2403.10 --> 2412.30] Back to the, I guess, somewhat of a surprise for developers on Windows to have an easy time. |
[2412.54 --> 2415.18] Wasn't there a time, though, where it was harder for them? |
[2415.18 --> 2418.80] I know maybe in the Ruby space, at least there was. |
[2418.80 --> 2423.96] And this is like late 2008, 2009 timeframe, 2006. |
[2424.18 --> 2426.46] It was like not easy to get set up. |
[2426.46 --> 2431.76] It really depends on the language that you write and what you needed to do. |
[2431.76 --> 2435.36] Because I've always had a Mac and a PC. |
[2435.72 --> 2438.24] And I've always programmed on both of them. |
[2438.44 --> 2438.74] Easily. |
[2439.04 --> 2439.44] No problem. |
[2439.44 --> 2439.68] Yeah. |
[2440.00 --> 2440.48] Easily. |
[2440.58 --> 2441.12] No problem. |
[2441.12 --> 2445.90] I mean, maybe the stuff on my PC wasn't as attractive looking. |
[2446.12 --> 2452.52] And it was a little bit harder to keep .files equal across operating systems. |
[2452.86 --> 2456.80] But in the past few years, I haven't felt that way at all. |
[2457.02 --> 2462.22] I mean, also, I mean, I have the access to people that work on VS Code. |
[2462.52 --> 2469.10] So if I can't figure something out or if I want it to look better, I can message them and be like, help, please. |
[2469.10 --> 2469.30] Please. |
[2470.30 --> 2474.62] What do you think's changed for Windows, the platform? |
[2475.24 --> 2478.78] I think it's 100% Microsoft being more involved with open source. |
[2479.02 --> 2480.80] VS Code is completely open source. |
[2481.00 --> 2481.88] It's written in TypeScript. |
[2482.30 --> 2486.38] So it's really easy for people to make custom stuff for it. |
[2486.78 --> 2487.44] That's my opinion. |
[2487.58 --> 2488.94] Michael might have a better one. |
[2489.02 --> 2489.72] What do you think, Michael? |
[2490.64 --> 2497.70] I think that there's a larger transformation at Microsoft where they're moving from a platform company to a product company again. |
[2497.70 --> 2500.20] So early Microsoft made products. |
[2500.36 --> 2501.80] They made languages for other people's computers. |
[2502.08 --> 2505.54] They made spreadsheets and Word applications. |
[2505.92 --> 2509.30] And then at some point, they gained a monopoly over the operating system. |
[2509.40 --> 2515.14] And they started to just kind of get lazy with product and strong arm everybody into just being on their platform. |
[2515.14 --> 2521.18] And now that they've lost those monopolies in platform, they've turned everything around. |
[2521.26 --> 2525.58] And Santi's really turned it all around to be a product company. |
[2526.04 --> 2528.98] And now to be a product company, you have to make things that people love. |
[2530.02 --> 2534.76] And I'm continually surprised by the things that I love from Microsoft. |
[2534.76 --> 2537.56] I use Outlook on iOS right now. |
[2537.70 --> 2539.38] It's great, actually. |
[2539.60 --> 2539.82] Really? |
[2539.92 --> 2541.76] It's a really good mobile email. |
[2541.84 --> 2542.64] Yeah, it's crazy. |
[2543.22 --> 2547.14] The fact that I'm using a Visual Studio editor still blows my mind. |
[2547.40 --> 2554.10] If you told 1999 Michael that that would happen and that they wouldn't be using Vim, he'd punch you in the face. |
[2555.88 --> 2556.96] I'm so violent. |
[2556.96 --> 2560.52] Oh, 1999 Michael had no scruples. |
[2561.42 --> 2563.24] So, anyway. |
[2564.44 --> 2565.18] That's funny. |
[2565.34 --> 2566.00] Yeah, yeah. |
[2566.08 --> 2571.74] I kind of feel the same way because my transition to Mac came from Windows, obviously, which would make sense. |
[2571.94 --> 2575.18] And it was from a place where I just couldn't afford. |
[2575.72 --> 2579.06] And even today, I still can't afford the Mac machines. |
[2579.18 --> 2580.58] They're still crazy expensive. |
[2581.46 --> 2583.54] And so it comes from, one, an economic standpoint. |
[2584.08 --> 2586.12] Surface Pros are not cheap. |
[2586.12 --> 2588.12] I haven't compared the prices. |
[2588.80 --> 2590.34] They're really nice hardware, though, too. |
[2590.48 --> 2592.08] I mean, that's really surprising. |
[2592.20 --> 2595.56] I haven't seen Microsoft make hardware that good, like, basically ever. |
[2596.96 --> 2601.60] It's funny because I have heard complaints about the Surface Pros, but all of the complaints have been in software. |
[2601.94 --> 2604.42] Or they've been, like, operating system things that people don't like about Windows. |
[2604.70 --> 2607.58] I haven't heard anyone, not a single person, complain about the hardware. |
[2608.34 --> 2613.12] Well, that's the thing, though, is that I think Microsoft has sort of, like, kept this bad name or this bruise. |
[2613.12 --> 2619.16] They got punched in the face as the 1999 Michael would have done. |
[2619.38 --> 2622.32] Punched Microsoft in the face because it just wasn't adding up. |
[2622.82 --> 2627.50] And they were walking around with a fake black eye or something like that because it's not really there anymore. |
[2627.66 --> 2629.12] It's sort of done. |
[2629.12 --> 2630.94] I bought my mic just now, by the way. |
[2631.52 --> 2632.28] That was a lot of rumble. |
[2634.22 --> 2635.24] It's just not there anymore. |
[2635.34 --> 2643.26] So, like, they've changed, but everyone keeps the previous opinion about them, even though it may not be warranted. |
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