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[2643.30 --> 2645.70] Like, the person in the Facebook comment you mentioned, you know, like that. |
[2645.70 --> 2654.52] Well, I know that, like, one of the things that people, like, harp on Microsoft a lot for is everyone's, like, blue screen of death. |
[2654.64 --> 2655.52] It's so horrible. |
[2655.68 --> 2660.84] And, like, people love to take pictures of stuff out in the wild that have the blue screen of death on. |
[2660.96 --> 2663.36] And they can just be like, ha ha, look at Microsoft. |
[2663.36 --> 2680.26] Except I don't think that people realize that the reason there's a blue screen of death there is more often than not the reason because since they've made it so accessible for people to build their own custom stuff for Windows, |
[2680.66 --> 2685.78] the blue screen of death is Windows as an operating system telling you that there is a problem. |
[2686.38 --> 2691.24] And it's usually because of software that you're using that wasn't built by Microsoft. |
[2691.24 --> 2693.92] Microsoft. So, it's, like, doing you a favor. |
[2695.76 --> 2701.60] Yeah, I mean, also, like, if there is a blue screen, I think that they stopped doing that, like, 10 years ago in their operating system. |
[2701.88 --> 2705.30] So, these dumb kiosks have 10-year-old operating systems. |
[2705.46 --> 2706.74] Of course, they're awful. |
[2707.40 --> 2709.14] Of course, they wrote awful software on top of it. |
[2709.14 --> 2711.26] I've also gotten the kernel panic on a Mac before. |
[2711.26 --> 2717.24] So, it's not like it's happened maybe a small handful of times my whole entire use of a Mac ever. |
[2717.34 --> 2718.98] But I've seen that, too, you know. |
[2718.98 --> 2722.82] Also, kernel panics on Linux are, like, just part of using Linux. |
[2723.12 --> 2726.44] It's not like this is, like, a solved problem there. |
[2726.58 --> 2726.88] Right. |
[2727.74 --> 2741.14] So, what I hear you saying is that if you haven't in a while, revisit your opinion on Microsoft or Windows or any of their new devices out there as a platform for developers. |
[2741.14 --> 2743.56] I mean, obviously, I'm going to say yes. |
[2744.24 --> 2744.44] But. |
[2744.78 --> 2749.62] Well, you know, say it from, you know, the true heart of Rachel versus the I work from Microsoft Rachel. |
[2750.14 --> 2751.78] I mean, I don't bullshit. |
[2752.20 --> 2755.22] So, if it wasn't good, I wouldn't say try it. |
[2756.12 --> 2756.74] Well, there you go. |
[2756.74 --> 2768.20] And I know that the people that are working on this stuff that are the tools for the developers are, like, legitimately super into feedback and wanting to know what the community wants. |
[2768.20 --> 2775.22] And since it's since there's, like, repositories on GitHub for all this stuff, if there's something you don't like, make an issue. |
[2775.42 --> 2777.76] Like, let it be known to the people that are working on it. |
[2778.16 --> 2787.64] They would much rather hear from you and, like, official channels than read about somebody being like, I hate VS Code on Twitter or something, because that's not going to help. |
[2787.64 --> 2798.78] We actually linked out to something on the new stack over the weekend in our weekly email about Microsoft's transition, basically, over these years. |
[2798.82 --> 2801.20] And we've kind of covered that to quite a degree. |
[2801.44 --> 2808.22] I can remember talking to R&S and a couple others at Nune Interactive recently. |
[2808.56 --> 2811.78] And these are, like, 10-year veterans at Microsoft, right? |
[2811.78 --> 2817.86] They've been there for a while, enough to see the two different sides that others may assume might be there. |
[2818.32 --> 2829.78] The side where you said before, Michael, where they're, and I think you said it too, Rachel, where their focus is on developers, their focus is on open source, their focus is on products versus a platform. |
[2830.38 --> 2839.12] And you can see that transition happening not only on the outside as what we get from them, but also the transition on the inside from employees. |
[2839.12 --> 2844.78] And I remember Arnish saying, he was like, it was Gaurav, actually, Gaurav Seth. |
[2845.24 --> 2850.10] He said, I've been there 11 years, and the last few years have been the best years ever. |
[2850.54 --> 2859.08] And I don't want to put words in his mouth, but he seemed to be coming from a place where I may not have been here much longer if it didn't change. |
[2859.08 --> 2861.18] That seemed to be the sentiment. |
[2861.36 --> 2862.38] He didn't say that, though. |
[2863.06 --> 2875.26] But it was like, Microsoft has changed so much for me as a developer to change to make me enjoy my job, allow me to do cool stuff with Chakra Core and fun stuff with Node and do stuff in the community. |
[2875.44 --> 2877.24] Whereas before, it was never like that. |
[2878.10 --> 2878.26] Yeah. |
[2879.66 --> 2881.24] I've heard that from a bunch of people. |
[2882.10 --> 2882.90] More questions! |
[2884.24 --> 2884.60] Yeah. |
[2884.60 --> 2888.76] System76 Lemur right now, talking more about hardware. |
[2889.20 --> 2891.72] That's from Peter Benjamin. |
[2893.34 --> 2896.42] What is a System76 Lemur? |
[2897.26 --> 2900.16] It's Linux laptops. |
[2900.82 --> 2901.52] Oh, interesting. |
[2902.74 --> 2907.94] That Intel Core i7 is the chipset that they use in the new Surface Pro as well. |
[2908.72 --> 2909.08] Cool. |
[2909.08 --> 2910.74] Um, okay. |
[2911.02 --> 2914.70] If you go to any conference where MS has a presence, you definitely get that vibe. |
[2914.78 --> 2915.46] Oh, that's a comment. |
[2915.54 --> 2916.16] That's not a question. |
[2916.32 --> 2916.72] That's not a comment. |
[2916.72 --> 2919.64] Yeah, that's why there's not a question mark at the end. |
[2919.74 --> 2920.06] Yeah. |
[2920.56 --> 2921.92] Where's the question marks? |
[2922.58 --> 2923.32] All right, everybody. |
[2923.68 --> 2925.26] You gotta ask us more questions. |
[2925.88 --> 2928.96] I gotta go in four minutes, so... |
[2928.96 --> 2929.98] Ooh, four minutes. |
[2930.22 --> 2931.60] Let's do random picks. |
[2931.98 --> 2935.14] I'm going to a party in a 70-room Gothic mansion. |
[2935.70 --> 2936.78] Must be there on time. |
[2937.58 --> 2937.84] Yeah. |
[2937.84 --> 2939.38] Must eat in advance. |
[2940.18 --> 2941.62] I do need to eat in advance. |
[2941.62 --> 2942.42] Makeup's gonna be perfect. |
[2943.20 --> 2943.68] Obviously. |
[2944.14 --> 2945.20] On point, right? |
[2945.36 --> 2947.98] I hate the phrase on point so much. |
[2948.32 --> 2949.22] Not on point? |
[2951.36 --> 2954.64] What's your version of on point? |
[2955.98 --> 2956.50] Spectacular? |
[2957.98 --> 2958.58] Rad. |
[2959.08 --> 2959.52] I don't know. |
[2959.72 --> 2959.84] Rad. |
[2959.92 --> 2960.48] Okay, rad. |
[2961.14 --> 2961.32] Yeah. |
[2961.58 --> 2962.50] Makeup's gotta be rad. |
[2962.98 --> 2964.48] I forgot we're back in the 80s again. |
[2965.28 --> 2966.92] I'm always in the 80s. |
[2966.92 --> 2968.16] Man, I grew up in the 80s, okay? |
[2968.26 --> 2969.76] So, I want to go back so bad. |
[2969.84 --> 2971.10] If I hear 80s music... |
[2971.10 --> 2971.50] Oh, yeah. |
[2971.50 --> 2972.76] There was a question about... |
[2972.76 --> 2973.10] You know what? |
[2973.14 --> 2977.76] There was a question about server-side rendering earlier that Michael can answer, and then I'll |
[2977.76 --> 2978.18] leave. |
[2979.38 --> 2980.44] Um, hold on. |
[2980.44 --> 2983.16] I don't do any server-side rendering, so I'm actually really bad at this. |
[2983.22 --> 2984.62] I think that's really an Alex question. |
[2984.98 --> 2987.82] Like, we need to get Alex on to talk about that kind of stuff. |
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