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**Alex Sexton:** A whole new website... \[laughter\] |
**Jessica Lord:** Yeah... |
**Mikeal Rogers:** I stole some of your code that you wrote once to do a map with this, and it made me also discover this feature that I had no idea about in Google Sheets where you can give it a column that has like an address in it, and then it'll stick the GPS coordinates in another column. I had no idea that that w... |
**Jessica Lord:** Wait... Is that a thing? |
**Mikeal Rogers:** It works somehow... \[laughter\] |
**Jessica Lord:** I had done that but only using a plugin; MapBox had a plugin for doing that. Maybe there is now more native support in Spreadsheets... |
**Mikeal Rogers:** It was some kind of macro, or something... I ended up stealing it. |
**Alex Sexton:** I have two technical questions about Sheetsee, since I haven't got the chance to use it. Can you use data from a computed cell? |
**Jessica Lord:** What is a computed cell? |
**Alex Sexton:** It's like I've added up every number in this row, and it's the "=SUM(A1:A15)" |
**Jessica Lord:** \[36:07\] Right, yes. Anything that lives in a cell in your spreadsheet gets pulled out. |
**Alex Sexton:** The data though, not the formula...? |
**Jessica Lord:** Right, right. |
**Alex Sexton:** Okay, cool. |
**Jessica Lord:** Sheetsee pairs with this library called Tabletop.js which gets all that data from Google Spreadsheets. It basically deals with the Google API for you, which if you've interacted with the API on your own, you get a ton of metadata and huge JSON back. Tabletop.js cleans it all up and gives you back the ... |
**Alex Sexton:** That was my second question: relying on Google Docs to be fast and/or up for your website seems scary once you hit some -- if it's a simple, personal thing, then whatever... My site goes down far more than Google Docs. But if let's say your Trump thing become popular and you want it to stay up; it seem... |
**Jessica Lord:** Yeah. Originally, I wanted Sheetsee to be this really low-barrier to entry thing. It doesn't take long to think, "Oh, what happens when Google goes down?", because I have seen that happen. I remember specifically actually after the Boston Marathon bombing... People were putting addresses in a spreadsh... |
**Alex Sexton:** Yeah, but it's kind of beautiful in the sense that you can start with the completely easy thing, and then once you hit the scale problem, it's the same amount of work as doing it upfront. So it's kind of like this nice side effect of accidentally using Tabletop to -- I don't know... I think it's set up... |
**Jessica Lord:** Yeah. But now that there's Glitch.com, the greatest new website, I have a Sheetsee.glitch.me, and that is a Sheetsee template that includes server backup... Because you get a free Node server with every Glitch project you do. Glitch actually for me was the way that took "Oh my gosh, how do I get peopl... |
If you remix this Glitch site, you get a blank Sheetsee setup and it just writes the data to the server if it can go to Google. If it can't give you a spreadsheet, then it will just use what was last saved. |
**Alex Sexton:** What's the likelihood of it being able to sync with like Pouch on the client to where you can kind of sync data locally, go offline... Is there anybody who's hooked any of that up? |
**Jessica Lord:** I don't know of anybody who has, but it should be totally possible. |
**Alex Sexton:** Yeah, it seems like all in line with that. |
**Jessica Lord:** Yeah. I also have another Glitch that -- because one thing that was annoying is if you just wanted JSON from your spreadsheet, it wasn't super easy to get, and basically you would have to just set up a little Node thing with Tabletop and fetch your spreadsheet, but that was... I don't know; I love spr... |
**Mikeal Rogers:** \[40:25\] That's really nice |
**Alex Sexton:** That is cool. |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Yeah. I don't think that you would need Pouch to cache this, because you could just use a service worker to cache these simple requests, right? That would be even easier. |
**Alex Sexton:** Well, it would need to cache -- I don't know, syncing data versus caching requests are kind of two separate things. |
**Mikeal Rogers:** Yeah, I see what you're saying. |
**Jessica Lord:** Cool! |
**Mikeal Rogers:** I'm playing with demos right now, I'm sorry... \[laughter\] I'm playing with Sheetsee demos in the background. |
**Rachel White:** Is there anything else that you would like to add to Sheetsee that it doesn't have right now? |
**Jessica Lord:** Let's see... One thing -- actually, it's not specifically with Sheetsee, but with Tabletop. Tabletop doesn't handle any errors that you get back from Google Spreadsheets. |
**Alex Sexton:** When would you ever get an error? That seem unlikely... |
**Jessica Lord:** \[laughs\] If you pass in the wrong spreadsheet key, for instance... |
**Alex Sexton:** It just gives you someone else's spreadsheet, no problem. \[laughter\] |
**Jessica Lord:** No, it just fails, and it fails in a weird way... So you kind of have to deal with it yourself. |
**Alex Sexton:** I mean, as long as no one makes any errors it seems fine... |
**Jessica Lord:** Yeah, definitely. \[laughs\] Don't mess up. |
**Alex Sexton:** Just be perfect the first time and you shouldn't have any problems whatsoever. |
**Jessica Lord:** Yeah. |
**Mikeal Rogers:** One of the things that I love about this is I feel like all JavaScript tooling that I've used in the last 2-3 years has been a giant compile chain and it integrates into a giant compile chain, and this was like "Oh, back in the days..." where you could just insert a "script include" and then do stuff... |
**Jessica Lord:** Yeah... |
**Alex Sexton:** Actually, that somewhat reminded me of -- the first web development I ever did was members.aol.com; I built a dirt bike website. I literally still have never ridden a dirt bike to this day, but my first website was all about dirt bikes because my friend who taught me how to use members.aol.com had a di... |
The next website I built was for my little sister's soccer team. My dad paid me $5/month to -- it was a trick, I think... I was like, "I'm gonna get money from my dad" and he was like "I'm gonna trick my son into learning web development and statistics..." So I had to go to all of my sister's soccer games and keep stat... |
Then I would have to go calculate everybody's stats, and then I would update a website with all their different stats on it. I remember very specifically not knowing what a database was, and I was like "There's gotta be away for me to not have to just write HTML tables by hand, and generate this based on my spreadsheet... |
I remember very specifically searching in Altavista and saying "Way to get information from a computer spreadsheet and put into..." -- and I never found... I ended up running - I swear this is true - Macromedia Cold Fusion on my local computer, thinking that would solve the issue somehow, and then it didn't work once I... |
**Jessica Lord:** \[44:09\] \[laughs\] Sorry... I don't know if Google Docs existed when you were 10, so... |
**Mikeal Rogers:** \[laughs\] Google didn't exist when you were 10... \[laughter\] |
**Alex Sexton:** Yeah, that's why I was altavista-ing things... \[laughter\] |
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