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[876.20 --> 879.38] 16 cores on a desktop.
[880.44 --> 881.86] What's the value here?
[881.86 --> 890.58] If you want to run, like, four LimeTech systems on one system.
[890.96 --> 892.64] So I'll let you in on a little secret.
[892.82 --> 894.28] I've chatted with the LimeTech boys.
[894.94 --> 900.56] And so far, virtualization on Ryzen is not a great experience.
[900.92 --> 901.76] But go ahead.
[901.86 --> 902.28] Carry on.
[902.40 --> 902.64] Okay.
[905.90 --> 908.52] Streaming to a lot of places at one time.
[908.52 --> 913.20] At a lot of different, like, output resolutions.
[913.54 --> 913.80] Sure.
[914.00 --> 917.48] And for some reason, you don't have, like, a separate box handling that.
[917.60 --> 917.78] Yeah.
[918.90 --> 919.30] Okay.
[919.36 --> 919.98] What else you got?
[920.64 --> 921.14] Not much.
[921.14 --> 921.54] Cinebench.
[921.92 --> 922.30] Sure.
[924.44 --> 925.50] Amazing Cinebench.
[925.62 --> 926.68] The best Cinebench.
[927.48 --> 930.58] So we actually did a demo a little while ago.
[930.58 --> 931.24] 3D rendering.
[932.44 --> 932.92] Yeah.
[933.70 --> 934.10] Yeah?
[934.24 --> 934.50] Okay.
[934.72 --> 935.58] So, like, workstation.
[935.98 --> 936.54] Workstation, though.
[936.54 --> 937.98] But he wasn't saying workstation.
[937.98 --> 938.22] Yeah.
[938.30 --> 942.28] Because, like, I'm talking, like, competition with high-end desktop.
[942.78 --> 948.18] Like, to me, I'm kind of looking at Threadripper going, this seems like a very niche product
[948.18 --> 948.80] right now.
[948.80 --> 954.80] Because Ryzen 7 already goes all the way up to eight quite high-performance cores.
[955.00 --> 955.18] Yeah.
[955.18 --> 962.32] Which, for desktop workloads, like, it's about, like, talking about how high-performance your
[962.32 --> 970.04] SSD is when it requires QDATs of 16 in order to even, you know, differentiate itself from
[970.04 --> 970.98] a low-end SSD.
[971.38 --> 972.70] Like, that's what we're talking about.
[972.70 --> 980.44] We're talking about a product with all this theoretical power, but that a desktop workload pretty much wouldn't touch.
[980.50 --> 983.00] And to be clear, I am not complaining.
[983.80 --> 991.34] The fact that AMD is coming in and putting pressure on Intel about core counts is great.
[991.34 --> 995.68] But right now, I think the sweet spot is just six cores.
[995.68 --> 1002.00] So a lot of people in chat are naming a lot of things that you could do with it that aren't the scenarios that Linus is talking about.
[1002.02 --> 1002.14] Sure.
[1002.26 --> 1004.16] A lot of what people are listing are workstations.
[1004.30 --> 1004.92] I don't remember all of them.
[1004.92 --> 1005.54] Oh, workstations.
[1005.54 --> 1007.76] One of them was, like, SETI at home and stuff.
[1007.76 --> 1008.58] No, that's not a...
[1008.58 --> 1010.78] Which is, like, that's not necessarily a workstation.
[1011.14 --> 1016.26] No, but it's not really, like, it's more like a power virus.
[1016.50 --> 1019.82] It's less like an actual thing that you're sitting at your computer doing.
[1019.82 --> 1020.06] Yeah.
[1020.20 --> 1025.00] To be clear, it has a value, but most people...
[1025.00 --> 1026.06] Remember, we're talking about...
[1026.06 --> 1027.64] I've heard people say, like, cryptography and stuff.
[1028.70 --> 1029.98] Who's actually doing that at home?
[1029.98 --> 1031.36] I'm like, you're probably doing it with a GPU.
[1031.72 --> 1033.50] And GPUs are a thing.
[1034.18 --> 1034.54] Yeah.
[1035.12 --> 1038.18] Another guy said Bitcoin mining, but, like, again...
[1038.18 --> 1039.60] Yeah, I go with a graphics card.
[1040.46 --> 1040.82] Yeah, or...
[1041.64 --> 1043.30] Don't they have, like, ASIC...
[1043.30 --> 1043.92] Video rendering?
[1044.06 --> 1046.02] I'm out of date on the whole Bitcoin thing.
[1046.60 --> 1049.58] Jake's trying to convince me to do, like, another Bitcoin...
[1049.58 --> 1050.12] It's still...
[1050.12 --> 1052.68] You still kind of just want to use your video card, though.
[1052.68 --> 1052.88] Yeah.
[1053.04 --> 1054.46] Oh, is it still just video cards?
[1054.54 --> 1054.78] Okay.
[1055.06 --> 1055.94] You know, it's just like...
[1055.94 --> 1058.14] I think I'd like...
[1058.14 --> 1059.76] I could be misinformed.
[1060.08 --> 1067.94] So, basically, what I see as being positive about this is that it's putting pressure on Intel to...
[1068.76 --> 1072.94] Finally give us more than four cores, and it's putting...
[1072.94 --> 1073.76] No, it's not, apparently.
[1073.84 --> 1074.52] Apparently, I'm wrong.
[1075.66 --> 1076.82] Oh, GPUs are not a thing?
[1077.34 --> 1078.58] Well, no, they still are.
[1079.58 --> 1080.58] But...
[1080.58 --> 1081.58] But...
[1083.58 --> 1086.08] Yeah, I'm not sure.
[1086.42 --> 1087.26] Um, okay.
[1087.66 --> 1091.68] Now, let's talk about the chip formerly known as Naples.
[1092.26 --> 1093.30] So...
[1093.30 --> 1095.60] Here's what I don't get.
[1095.60 --> 1109.46] Why is it that companies that have great codenames, like Zen Architecture and Naples product codename, which is, like, inoffensive?
[1109.64 --> 1110.14] Unoffensive?
[1110.40 --> 1111.26] It's not offensive.
[1111.52 --> 1112.62] What's offensive about Epic?
[1114.10 --> 1115.24] It's stupid.
[1115.92 --> 1116.50] Yeah, okay.
[1116.50 --> 1117.50] It's like...
[1117.50 --> 1117.92] It's like...
[1117.92 --> 1118.92] It's like you're...
[1118.92 --> 1122.50] You're marketing this to, like, data center professionals.
[1123.34 --> 1125.14] Why are you calling it Epic?