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**Tim Smith:** Yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I can't disagree with that. |
**Jerod Santo:** I'm more of a morning person than you are, Adam, and you were here at 9 AM, ready to listen... So I'm guessing you had to set an alarm, or at least think about getting up. What was your routine? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I just had to speed up my morning routine, really. I'm up early. I'm just not ready to work until like ten... Nine-thirty, ten. That's when my voice warms up, that's when my brain warms up. I need at least an hour to boot. It takes me a bit to get to full capacity. But I went to bed earlier last nig... |
**Jerod Santo:** \[04:30\] Right. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** We've gotta create content around Apple. As a matter of fact, this is the first time we're ever doing anything event(ish) live alongside of Apple's events. This is a first for us. |
**Jerod Santo:** Correct. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** And we're going on Spotlight, which is great... But yeah, my mornings are typically a little later. You know what, in the words of Gary Vaynerchuk, embrace who you are. If you're gonna sleep in a little bit, kill at the rest of the hours of the day. That's what I do. I work my face off when I'm up. |
**Jerod Santo:** Well, you're awake now, and I think I definitely woke up as soon as the announcement started, because there was a whole bunch of stuff that was announced... Everything that was announced was exciting; the only downer portion of the event, for me, where I lose interest and go start merging pull requests... |
**Tim Smith:** Agreed. |
**Jerod Santo:** But I wanna say, we haven't covered Apple in the past... Oh, you see what I did there with the bag? It's not my shopping cart. We haven't really covered too much of this stuff in the past; we definitely are internally users of Apple products, for different things... Of course, we also use other manufac... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** We need the hardware, and we need Apple to remain a company focused on hardware that delivers for creatives. Since you've just mentioned developer, it may jump the gun a little bit, but the shout-out to 1Password - such a dedicated team to great software, out of Canada... Amazing team. They have con... |
**Tim Smith:** Let's just say if 1Password were publicly traded, I'd buy their stock right now, for sure. |
**Jerod Santo:** I'll give a little 1Password shout-out to you all for making awesome software. Let's make about the event and what was announced. First of all, we'll just say up front - MacBooks, if you haven't heard... Brand new MacBook, much-anticipated, still selling a non-retina MacBook -- sorry, I said MacBook, b... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Go ahead, Tim. Take it. |
**Jerod Santo:** Tim, tell us about it. |
**Tim Smith:** \[08:00\] Oh... Shoot, I'm caught off-guard here, but yeah. So the MacBook Air comes in a whole new 100% recycled aluminum enclosure, which was to me one of the biggest announcements that had to do with the MacBook Air, and really all the Mac announcements that they made. I don't think they said the same... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I think it was assumed... |
**Jerod Santo:** If they did, I missed it. They definitely called it out for the Mac mini and the MacBook Air. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I think that might be just a trend that they sort of just pointed back to, the same recycled stuff... But I don't think they said explicitly, no. What's cool about that though is that it's now, I would say, a more sturdy body than maybe previous generations... This is an all-new alloy. I mean, leave... |
**Tim Smith:** Yeah. And now the MacBook Air only comes in one option, the 13.3-inch LED-backlit display. One of the notes here that was talked about was the bezel. Adam didn't seem to really think that the bezel shrunk enough... I disagree with that; I feel like this new bezel is really thin. I mean, it looks very sim... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Okay, fine... Listen... I disagree with my original agreement, because that was based on-- |
**Tim Smith:** \[laughs\] You disagree with yourself. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, I disagree with my original notes. I'm taking it back; it was premature. It was meant to be a future note, not a declaration. However, I was bummed it didn't seem like it shrunk much. That's why I put in quotes "much". You quickly disagree, and I don't disagree with your disagreement, but in c... |
You always have to compete with where the screen was, and I like now how it's become a standard of having the black bezel around the screen. I think that's the best way to go. |
**Jerod Santo:** It's definitely better than the silver, yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Regardless of what color you choose of a device, whether it's a XS Max, or a XS, or whatever, the black bezel in my opinion -- they've given other colors: they've had white, they've had rose gold, they've had others for different devices, and I think when you just put that black bezel around a scree... |
**Tim Smith:** Yeah, I agree. Now they also brought in Touch ID for the MacBook Air, which is awesome. I want Touch ID everywhere, to be honest with you. I wish that there was a way for them to put Touch ID in their Bluetooth-connected keyboards, but I understand that from an engineering points, that's-- |
**Jerod Santo:** Security probably, too... |
**Tim Smith:** Yeah, and security... It's almost impossible. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Here's one thing I wanna say on this part here... I know this is new. Do either of you own an Apple Watch? |
**Tim Smith:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yes. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Okay. The unlock feature from the Apple Watch to any Mac is amazing. |
**Tim Smith:** Oh, yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** It's pretty great. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right? I kind of prefer that over the touch. I like to connect and be me to the watch, and let the watch act as me, so sans Touch ID... However, I do agree that it is pretty cool to have Touch ID. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[12:00\] Here's the big point, I think, with regards to this particular feature... On the MacBook Air, the brand new MacBook Air, which is not a Pro device, it has Touch ID in the keyboard, and it also has a hardware Escape button. So there's no touch bar; they've just put the Touch ID in there, which... |
**Tim Smith:** It's just not the same though... |
**Jerod Santo:** Just to make sure that I -- yeah, you just can't get that satisfaction of like just drilling escape in anger like you can with the hardware button... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It's true. |
**Jerod Santo:** But I think this makes it very attractive for developers, especially Vim users, because they don't lose their beloved Escape, and get the avenge of Touch ID, although I admit, with the Apple Watch, I use the Touch ID less than previously... That being said, it is nice for Apple Pay and for points where... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right. Almost zero. It's almost reduced to zero for the Touch ID if you've authenticated... Originally you have to start with your password, and then you can use Touch ID from that point on, similar to when you restart a phone, with similar -- like, now it's Face ID, where before it was Touch ID... |
The cool thing on the developer front too is the accessibility. $1,200. $1,199 is the starting price. Most developers, or even brand new people who want to come into the software world - that's an approachable price. I mean, several thousand dollars for a MacBook Pro is not, whereas this is like, it's pretty much all y... |
**Jerod Santo:** It's taken me about a year, but I've started to find specific use cases. I like the emoji picker... There's certain things where -- I like if you're watching YouTube and you go into full-screen mode, you still have access to the scrubber via the touch bar. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** There are just certain things that took -- it took me a year, maybe nine months before I used it for anything, except for angrily hitting escape. But it's starting to slowly work its way into my life, in ways that I could definitely live without, but in ways that I think are additive, and not just subt... |
What's the entry-level MacBook Pro price? I'm trying to grab it... Because we were talking about accessibility in terms of affording a device like this -- I mean, $1,200, which is the entry-level new MacBook Air, still isn't super affordable. It's still a high-end starting price, especially now that you have a Mac mini... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right... The entry-level MacBook Pro, which is a 2,3Ghz dual-core processor, all the specs, whatever - $1,299. So we're talking about $100 more. |
**Tim Smith:** Yeah. |
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