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**Adam Stacoviak:** Right. |
**Jerod Santo:** I was wondering, could I do everything I do on this device? And I would say "Yes", with the caveat of "I might want more RAM..." And then, secondly, even my MacBook Pro, honestly - I have a 13-inch MacBook Pro, last year's model... Even it, the processor, gets taxed when I'm doing -- not when I'm devel... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Describe "can't handle it." It's just the fans, or...? |
**Jerod Santo:** My CPU is chilling at like 85%, 90%, 100%, and my fans and going off, and my hands are sweating, because I'm on the keyboard... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** The heat is coming from it... The heat is on... |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah. I've gotta take my T-shirt off, otherwise I start to pit out, that kind of thing... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Come on, now... Keep it friendly. |
**Jerod Santo:** Okay, alright. That's how to verbalate. Painting a picture... |
**Tim Smith:** I do think though if the MacBook Air isn't your primary machine, it is ideal for what Adam just explained. As a conference-going machine, it's perfect. |
**Jerod Santo:** Absolutely. |
**Tim Smith:** It's perfect. |
**Jerod Santo:** And actually, also a caveat - I'm chilling on 16 gigs of RAM on this machine as well, so I know what that feels like, and I can suffer it. There's times where I think I'm swapping... I've seen it swap, but for the most part, it's fine. It's not ideal, but it's fine. The mobility, the portability... The... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Tim, I think you asked in the notes of our doc, "Does the new MacBook Pro even have the T2 security chip, and it does. They're definitely bringing it home there to me. They didn't spare any expense. I would wanna scrutinize the profitability level of this machine for them, because they've put so muc... |
It's like they said, "You love this machine? Fine. We're gonna keep it, and we're gonna put everything we can into it, and we're gonna love you back... And give it to you for $1,200. Take that." |
**Jerod Santo:** \[28:15\] "We're gonna love you back?" You're anthropomorphizing quite a bit there... \[laughter\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, I mean, people have been buying this machine even sans Retina, because they love it so much. |
**Jerod Santo:** "Are you lonely? Do you need love? Buy a MacBook Air, it'll love you back." Maybe you should work for their sales team. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well... Maybe so. |
**Jerod Santo:** I'm just messing with you. So maybe it changes the question... I think the question I've always asked myself when buying a new laptop is "Can I get away with a MacBook Air?" And I think maybe the question now is "Why buy a MacBook Pro?" versus "Why not buy a MacBook Air?" because I think this is the st... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, here you go... I'm gonna go fully spec out a MacBook Air, give it everything I can, max it out. It maxes at $2,599. |
**Jerod Santo:** Still expensive. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Still expensive, but that's 16 gr-- not 16 grams... 16 GB of RAM, 1.5... Why the 1.5? Weird... 1.5 of SSD storage... And that's all you can tweak - memory and storage. You can't tweak CPU; you're getting a 1.6Ghz dual-core 8th generation core i5, with Turbo Boost up to 3.6Ghz - that's decent; it's c... |
I think the other reason you would go to a MacBook Pro would simply be to tweak your CPU. Maybe you need those CPUs; you need more cores, more than dual-core. Maybe you need quad-core, or whatever further up... That would be the reason why, is you need more CPU. |
**Jerod Santo:** So on the 13-inch MacBook Pro maxed out, it's $3,700, and you're still only at 16 GB of RAM. That just seems like "What's the point? I've maxed one of those out..." What about the 15-inch...? I think things change... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Don't even max that thing out... Gosh, I think it's really expensive, yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** The 15 can go up to 32, isn't it? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, you can get to almost $7,000. $6,699 for a totally maxed out 15-inch MacBook Pro. |
**Tim Smith:** Yeah, and I think at that point you've got 64 GB of RAM, I wanna say, with the 15-inch model...? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** 32. |
**Jerod Santo:** 32. So you can go up to 32 there. |
**Tim Smith:** I thought it was 15-inch you could go up to... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It doesn't seem so. 32 gigs is the max, at least on their options here... |
**Tim Smith:** Oh, man... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** You are getting the upgrade Radeon Pro... I think this is truly for somebody that's graphics-intensive. I wouldn't recommend a MacBook Air to somebody who's really kicking it on Photoshop, or into any 3ds Max, or anything that's really GPU-heavy, many more monitors... I'm assuming this, at least in ... |
**Tim Smith:** Yeah, you could do a quick edit on the MacBook Air... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, I mean, and you're gonna embrace it... But a daily machine, you're gonna be like "Man, this sucks. I'd rather spend the extra grand or two maybe to get something that's more capable." |
**Tim Smith:** \[32:01\] Right, right. But that's what I'm saying - like we were talking about before, as a portable, conference-going machine for what we do... I mean, we could totally do a quick edit of a video on this, on location, for sure. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, so it makes it an affordable can-also kind of machine, but not daily. Definitely affordable on that front, affordable on the weight front, and I will even venture to say that maybe our AI folks, machine learning folks are saying "This Air is probably great for me, too" because you still have t... |
**Jerod Santo:** You have to mention at this point a lot of the real heavy machine learning deals you can run on an EC2 instance, or on Azure... The real heavy lifting - you usually don't run it on your laptop anyhow; you're just accessing the results, and for that you're in good company here. |
Maybe we should move on to part two, because we could probably talk about the MacBook Air all day, but... |
**Tim Smith:** Mac mini. |
**Jerod Santo:** ...but come on, the Mac mini...! It's been four, five years...? An eternity. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Too long. |
**Jerod Santo:** Too long. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It seriously has been too long. As an owner of many, many generations, current owner of four... As a matter of fact, we're speaking right now through a few Mac minis... We use them as Skype machines every single day to do live broadcasts and to do our recording. It's part of a system that just works... |
They're essentially Skype machines. I call them cloud microphones, basically, because that's what it is; each one is a cloud microphone. It allows me to connect people in the cloud to here locally, as a local mic, via the audio in and out. If it weren't for those machines, our setup would be just a little less professi... |
And I don't think -- we don't really need to upgrade to a this newest version of Mac mini. I don't think our needs in that case need this new Mac mini. However, for anyone holding on to who's bought the oldest trash can possible Mac Pro, and just kept it because -- you know, it does look sexy; it is a very nice machine... |
**Jerod Santo:** Let's talk about what was announced. |
**Tim Smith:** Yeah, of the specs. So it starts with four cores. You can go up to six cores. This to me feels like Apple is listening to its customers. I was shocked that it starts with four cores. Also, space grey - amazing. Again, I would love matte black, but I'll settle for space grey. 64 GB of memory... Now, can s... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** \[36:02\] No. |
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