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[1475.14 --> 1481.84] machine. I do think you would only go MacBook pro if you wanted to have like so much more RAM, |
[1482.00 --> 1486.56] so much more processing power. I was going to say the real sticky point is the RAM. So it maxes out at 16 |
[1486.56 --> 1492.68] gigabytes of RAM, which you can definitely get buy on. But in 2018, for a brand new development |
[1492.68 --> 1500.12] environment, you may think, eh, 32 is really going to feel better. The SSD is fine up to 1.5 terabytes. |
[1500.24 --> 1506.44] That's plenty for me as a developer. Maybe if you're not recording, you know, 4K video and using it |
[1506.44 --> 1510.72] in and out, but you probably have external drives at that point. Right. So I think I would ask, |
[1510.72 --> 1515.88] I was wondering, like, could I do everything I do on this device? And I would say yes, |
[1515.88 --> 1521.54] with the caveat of I might want more RAM. And then secondly, even my MacBook pro, honestly, |
[1521.62 --> 1529.00] I have a 13 inch MacBook pro last year's model. Even it, the processor gets taxed when I'm doing, |
[1529.16 --> 1534.36] not when I'm developing, except for during compiling and tests, of course. But it's like |
[1534.36 --> 1538.58] when I'm streaming and stuff, like if I'm trying to stream to Twitch and keep a Skype call going |
[1538.58 --> 1543.18] and like doing these different things, that's when my MacBook pro can't handle it. And I think, |
[1543.26 --> 1546.76] man, I just need something beefier. I need a Mac pro or iMac pro. |
[1547.00 --> 1551.54] Describe can't handle it. Is this the fans or is it like, it's, it's literally like my CPU is like |
[1551.54 --> 1556.72] chilling at like 85, 90, 100% and my fans are going off and my hands are, my hands are sweating |
[1556.72 --> 1558.42] because I'm on the keyboard. |
[1558.54 --> 1559.52] The heat's coming from it. |
[1559.96 --> 1560.32] Yeah. |
[1560.44 --> 1561.26] The heat is on it. |
[1561.38 --> 1564.38] I got to take my t-shirt off. Otherwise I start to, you know, pit out. |
[1564.40 --> 1564.92] Come on now. |
[1565.24 --> 1565.64] Keep it friendly. |
[1565.64 --> 1567.88] Okay. All right. That's, that's, that's how verbally. |
[1568.58 --> 1569.80] Paint a picture. |
[1570.16 --> 1575.90] I do think though, if, if the, if the MacBook Air isn't your primary machine, |
[1575.90 --> 1583.86] it is, it is ideal for, for what Adam just explained. Like, like as a, as a conference |
[1583.86 --> 1587.10] going machine, it's perfect. |
[1587.48 --> 1587.90] Absolutely. |
[1588.08 --> 1588.68] It's perfect. |
[1589.50 --> 1593.40] And I should also caveat that I'm chilling on 16 gigs of RAM on this machine as well. |
[1593.40 --> 1598.16] So I know what that feels like. And it's definitely like I can suffer it. There's times where I think |
[1598.16 --> 1605.34] I'm, I'm swapping. I haven't seen it swap, but for the most part, it's fine. It's not ideal, |
[1605.48 --> 1606.02] but it's fine. |
[1607.16 --> 1607.56] Yeah. |
[1607.56 --> 1613.52] The mobility, the portability. I mean, the thing is sexy as all get out. I love the way it looks. |
[1613.52 --> 1615.92] I think it's an excellent developer device. |
[1619.00 --> 1624.74] Tim, you asked, I think in the notes of our doc, does the new MacBook Pro even have the T2 security |
[1624.74 --> 1629.54] chip? And it does. So they're definitely bringing home there to me. They didn't spare any expense. |
[1630.14 --> 1637.52] It doesn't seem, it seems like they, they, I would imagine, I would want to scrutinize the |
[1637.52 --> 1642.50] profitability level of this machine for them because they put so much into it. And Apple |
[1642.50 --> 1647.38] is typically known for high margins and that's what makes them a likable stock from the mainstream |
[1647.38 --> 1653.04] stock market arena. Not much of a developer conversation for sure, but you know, you got |
[1653.04 --> 1658.58] a sustainability is. So in that case, I would be curious to know what their margins are on this |
[1658.58 --> 1664.78] because they really have like put so much into it. And they've even given us way more by saying, |
[1664.78 --> 1669.06] okay, you've definitely revolted against the touch bar. We'll take it away, but we'll still |
[1669.06 --> 1677.66] give you a touch ID. T2 security chip, decent RAM, decent CPU, all day battery life, you know, |
[1677.74 --> 1685.32] smaller, thinner, lighter, aluminum alloy, you know, all these things crammed into this |
[1685.32 --> 1691.34] machine. It's like they said, you love this machine. Fine. We're going to keep it. We're |
[1691.34 --> 1694.72] going to put everything we can into it. And we're going to love you back and give it to you |
[1694.72 --> 1700.70] for $1,200. We're going to love you back. We're anthropomorphizing quite a bit there. |
[1701.14 --> 1706.46] Well, I mean, people have been buying this machine, even sans retina because they love |
[1706.46 --> 1707.06] us so much. |
[1707.68 --> 1715.36] Are you, are you lonely? Do you need love? Buy a MacBook Air. It'll love you back. That's |
[1715.36 --> 1716.88] maybe you should work for their sales team. |
[1717.56 --> 1718.32] Maybe so. |
[1718.72 --> 1722.76] Just messing with you. So here, maybe it changes the question. So I think the question I've |
[1722.76 --> 1728.10] always asked myself when buying a new laptop is, can I get away with a MacBook Air? And |
[1728.10 --> 1733.50] I think maybe the question now is like, why buy a MacBook Pro versus why not buy a MacBook |
[1733.50 --> 1738.72] Air? Because I think this is the starting point for any decision. If you're already deciding |
[1738.72 --> 1743.14] to go Mac OS and well, maybe do I need them? Do I need portability? Cause then you might |
[1743.14 --> 1749.54] go Mac mini at this point, but for laptops, Apple laptops, the question is why buy the Pro? |
[1749.54 --> 1751.18] What am I getting there? |
[1751.34 --> 1756.52] Oh, here you go. I'm going to go fully spec out a MacBook Air, like give it everything |
[1756.52 --> 1761.40] it can. Max it out. It maxes at $2,599. |
[1762.06 --> 1763.10] Woo. Still expensive. |
[1763.32 --> 1767.54] Still expensive, but that's 16 grand or 16 grams, 16 gigabytes of RAM. |
[1767.54 --> 1775.98] Uh, 1.5. Why the 1.5 weird 1.5 of SSD storage. And that's how you can tweak is just memory |
[1775.98 --> 1782.74] and storage. You can't tweak CPU. You're getting a 1.6 dual core eighth generation core i5 with |
[1782.74 --> 1788.04] turbo boost up to 3.6 gigahertz. It's decent. It's common. It's, it's common that lineup. |
[1788.04 --> 1796.26] I mean, I think the other reason you would go to a MacBook Pro would simply be to tweak your CPU. |
[1796.42 --> 1800.94] Maybe you need those CPUs, need more cores, more than dual core, you know, you need four, you know, |
[1801.12 --> 1807.04] quad core or, you know, whatever further up. That would be the reason why is you need more CPU. |
[1807.04 --> 1814.82] So on the 13 inch MacBook Pro maxed out, it's 3,700 and you're still only at 16 gigabytes of RAM. |
[1814.94 --> 1820.56] That just seems like, what's the point? I maxed one of those out. What about the 15 inch? |
[1821.74 --> 1822.66] I think things change. |
[1822.68 --> 1825.30] Don't need to max that thing out, gosh. I think it's really expensive. |
[1825.72 --> 1825.74] Yeah. |
[1826.46 --> 1828.90] The 15 can go up to 32, isn't it? |
[1829.46 --> 1835.28] Well, you can get almost $7,000, $6699 for a totally maxed out 15 inch. |
[1835.50 --> 1835.94] Yeah. |
[1835.94 --> 1835.98] Yeah. |
[1835.98 --> 1839.92] But the difference there. |
[1839.92 --> 1844.32] And I think at that point you've got like 64 gigabytes of RAM. I want to say. |
[1845.32 --> 1845.72] Yeah. |
[1845.86 --> 1846.96] With the 15 inch model. |
[1847.24 --> 1847.56] 32. |
[1848.32 --> 1848.72] 32. |
[1849.68 --> 1850.16] Mm-hmm. |
[1850.46 --> 1851.64] So you can go 32 there. |
[1851.72 --> 1853.84] I thought with 15 inch, you could go up to. |
[1855.38 --> 1859.08] Doesn't seem so. 32 gigs is the max, at least on their options here. |
[1859.46 --> 1861.86] You are getting the upgraded Radeon Pro. |
[1861.86 --> 1866.40] I think this is truly for somebody that's graphics intensive. |
[1867.20 --> 1878.74] I wouldn't recommend a MacBook Air to somebody who's really kicking it on Photoshop or into any sort of like 3D Max or anything that's, that's just, you know, really GPU heavy. |
[1878.74 --> 1880.98] Maybe, you know, many more monitors. |
[1880.98 --> 1887.32] I'm assuming this, at least on the monitor front, it may be able to be capable for like dual 5K monitors or something like that. |
[1887.32 --> 1893.20] But anything I would say video, video people are not going to be grabbing this MacBook Air. |
[1893.60 --> 1894.78] They're going to try. |
[1894.78 --> 1908.32] But I think, I think they may, they may have it for say, somebody who is on the video team that needs to do some stuff occasionally that, that can be okay with puttering here and there. |
[1908.90 --> 1913.40] But yeah, you could do, you could do a quick edit on, on the MacBook Air. |
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