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[3794.54 --> 3795.36] I say it all the time.
[3795.36 --> 3800.94] Cause it's like people just see the generations of something that they see the final product.
[3800.94 --> 3804.16] You know, let's say even the iPhone is not, it's a final product.
[3804.24 --> 3810.64] You look at that versus gen one to now, like you would probably never buy gen one given
[3810.64 --> 3812.06] what's available now.
[3812.06 --> 3812.38] Right.
[3812.42 --> 3820.60] But like it was a breakthrough and Apple is such a long tail player, iterative kind of
[3820.60 --> 3825.94] embracer, so to speak, that the iMac began as a freaking TV.
[3825.94 --> 3829.52] Basically a color TV that you can see into.
[3829.64 --> 3830.26] And that was cool.
[3830.64 --> 3831.68] It was cool.
[3831.76 --> 3833.62] With, with huge bezels too.
[3833.72 --> 3838.72] Huge bezels, many colors, you know, an amazing machine.
[3838.86 --> 3844.60] I've actually seen several of them and you know, it's, it's uncommon these days to see
[3844.60 --> 3847.36] the oldest school iMacs of anything.
[3847.36 --> 3847.76] Right.
[3847.76 --> 3855.38] But then you compare that to an iMac pro and you take the picture of the iMac generation
[3855.38 --> 3861.92] from one and all the visual differences and changes from then to now.
[3861.96 --> 3865.52] And you just see it basically get thinner and thinner and thinner, bigger and bigger and
[3865.52 --> 3866.04] better and better.
[3866.66 --> 3868.50] And that to me is like this pencil idea.
[3868.60 --> 3871.66] You're like, you know, previous generations, they, they're like, you know what?
[3871.66 --> 3878.02] Hey, we were releasing this, this today and we can already predict 2018 release in October.
[3878.32 --> 3880.60] We know it's going to attach via magnetic.
[3880.74 --> 3884.92] We know we're going to offer the wireless charging and we'll take one on the nose today,
[3884.92 --> 3891.92] you know, from the pundits and the memes, you know, that's Apple's braveness and willingness
[3891.92 --> 3895.04] to embrace that and take that and say nothing.
[3895.04 --> 3904.96] I'm glad that they're also, you know, I don't think they've ever done the different colors
[3904.96 --> 3911.32] with iPad pro, but I, I just feel, and I, I think we touched on this before with, with
[3911.32 --> 3916.30] the MacBook air that the black bezel just looks so nice.
[3916.58 --> 3922.92] And, and now that it's, you know, almost edge to edge, which, you know, we should quote,
[3922.92 --> 3925.30] uh, Jared on this one, right?
[3925.52 --> 3928.56] One with 100% less notch.
[3929.80 --> 3934.08] It just, it just looks so nice and sleek and stylish.
[3936.12 --> 3937.14] It looks spectacular.
[3937.28 --> 3938.50] They've made it thinner.
[3938.74 --> 3942.46] They've added this magnet based charging of the pencil.
[3942.56 --> 3944.02] Of course, all the specs are upgraded.
[3944.44 --> 3946.54] One thing was even a thousand times faster.
[3946.54 --> 3950.36] And, you know, unlike the Mac mini where it's been four years and so it better be faster.
[3950.48 --> 3951.98] This is from like last year's model.
[3951.98 --> 3954.08] It was a very specific context.
[3954.24 --> 3958.04] I can't remember what that was about, but it's like, come on a thousand times faster.
[3958.40 --> 3959.86] The presenter even said that is nuts.
[3960.30 --> 3960.50] Yeah.
[3960.60 --> 3963.18] Cause it really is any sort of, uh, improvement like that.
[3963.48 --> 3965.16] We got USB-C in the bottom.
[3965.82 --> 3969.62] Uh, we've got face ID is 5.9 millimeters thin.
[3969.72 --> 3974.56] I mean, you know, let's, let's address the elephant in the room, which Sir Tim Lee said,
[3974.60 --> 3979.02] uh, during the event in our Apple nerds chat, you still can't do web dev on it.
[3979.02 --> 3983.26] So from our developer perspective is potentially falling apart.
[3983.26 --> 3989.34] But in, in this particular piece of hardware right now, unless you're doing, um, Swift playgrounds,
[3989.34 --> 3992.36] but man, this thing is cool.
[3992.54 --> 3997.08] I mean, it's just, uh, I was not ready to be impressed by an iPad pro release today.
[3997.08 --> 3998.54] It was kind of an afterthought to me.
[3998.66 --> 4000.34] I figured, yeah, they'd spec bump it.
[4000.54 --> 4001.38] It'd be fine.
[4001.70 --> 4002.48] It'd be the next iPad.
[4002.60 --> 4003.48] I don't own an iPad.
[4003.48 --> 4004.28] I've had an iPad.
[4004.48 --> 4009.28] I gave it to my wife and moved on, but man, this thing is hot.
[4009.96 --> 4012.02] I mean, I like the mention of the playground.
[4012.22 --> 4015.22] So playground, because this is an $800 for playground machine.
[4015.40 --> 4016.92] If you're just getting it for development.
[4018.42 --> 4018.86] Yeah.
[4018.98 --> 4019.24] Right.
[4019.30 --> 4024.76] I mean, most businesses can afford that and would afford that and just hand them out.
[4024.80 --> 4026.08] Like go learn Swift playground.
[4026.50 --> 4026.64] Yeah.
[4026.64 --> 4027.24] Go learn Swift.
[4027.24 --> 4028.50] Yeah.
[4028.50 --> 4033.22] But I think Swift playground is a playground enough that it's not going to take you the
[4033.22 --> 4035.72] full length of where you need to be.
[4035.96 --> 4040.26] I mean, until you can run Xcode on this and it's built to run Xcode, right?
[4040.38 --> 4040.72] Yeah.
[4041.08 --> 4046.16] You're not going to be doing development on this aside from introductory learning things
[4046.16 --> 4047.20] like Swift playgrounds.
[4047.30 --> 4052.54] So it's a starting point, but it's not, I mean, a Mac mini is a much better purchase at
[4052.54 --> 4053.40] the same price point.
[4053.52 --> 4054.56] So you're a developer, right?
[4054.56 --> 4054.76] Jared?
[4055.76 --> 4056.16] Correct.
[4056.32 --> 4056.58] Okay.
[4056.58 --> 4056.64] Okay.
[4057.24 --> 4058.74] And you got excited by this?
[4060.94 --> 4061.82] As a human.
[4062.02 --> 4062.56] As a human.
[4063.28 --> 4065.52] What about the developer side of you got you excited?
[4065.62 --> 4066.40] Anything at all?
[4066.80 --> 4068.06] That's my point is not really.
[4068.20 --> 4070.38] No, I mean, no.
[4070.54 --> 4070.78] AR?
[4072.92 --> 4073.32] AR.
[4075.40 --> 4078.76] Now we, we, we kind of laugh at that, but I made a note here.
[4078.76 --> 4083.20] I've seen Spielberg use this AR stuff to create spaces.
[4083.44 --> 4087.14] So like space creators, meaning people designing spaces, which they showed up with.
[4087.74 --> 4088.64] With Adobe and whatnot.
[4088.64 --> 4094.12] I think that's an area where we think it's only AR and gameplay in the future and all
[4094.12 --> 4094.82] that stuff around that.
[4094.90 --> 4096.84] It's kind of like, eh, not that much to me.