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[2487.60 --> 2489.94] You recovered from that faster than I expected.
[2490.12 --> 2491.06] It's burning still.
[2491.20 --> 2491.94] It's working.
[2492.34 --> 2493.92] It's doing the devil's work.
[2494.70 --> 2495.36] But it's—
[2495.36 --> 2497.52] I mean, it tastes good.
[2497.60 --> 2502.04] I think for people who are, like, crazy into spice, that's a good one.
[2504.30 --> 2504.70] Yeah.
[2505.02 --> 2506.42] Not all the flavors are so spicy.
[2506.58 --> 2507.18] Yeah, brother.
[2507.58 --> 2508.12] Can I help you?
[2511.72 --> 2512.08] Oh.
[2512.24 --> 2512.56] Wow.
[2512.86 --> 2513.26] Wow.
[2513.58 --> 2516.74] Oh, Nick's bugging me about responding to some super chats.
[2517.08 --> 2519.42] Because why would people give you money if you're not going to read them?
[2519.44 --> 2520.58] No, no, I'm going to read them.
[2520.58 --> 2521.42] I'm going to read them.
[2521.50 --> 2523.06] I really should have had the Twitch open.
[2523.20 --> 2525.40] Yeah, Yellow Havoc says, my first live WAN show.
[2525.76 --> 2527.84] Thank you guys for all the hours I've spent watching.
[2527.94 --> 2528.18] No, no.
[2528.26 --> 2530.06] Thank you for the hours you've spent watching.
[2530.58 --> 2532.30] Because, wait.
[2532.40 --> 2536.70] The hours that you've spent watching, you're thanking us for that.
[2537.02 --> 2537.34] No, no.
[2537.50 --> 2537.84] No, no.
[2537.96 --> 2538.32] Yeah, yeah.
[2538.32 --> 2538.88] Wait.
[2539.18 --> 2539.42] Okay.
[2539.48 --> 2540.44] Thank you, Yellow Havoc.
[2541.24 --> 2541.60] Okay.
[2541.64 --> 2543.80] Why don't we actually do at least one more tech topic here?
[2543.82 --> 2545.34] Because I really wanted to talk about this rumor.
[2545.96 --> 2546.28] Ooh.
[2546.50 --> 2548.52] So this was posted by Ethan Immortal on the forum.
[2548.92 --> 2550.58] And it's originally from HardOCP.
[2550.84 --> 2551.72] Is it Juicy Rumors?
[2551.78 --> 2552.30] Juicy Rumors.
[2552.36 --> 2552.54] No.
[2553.00 --> 2553.22] No.
[2553.22 --> 2561.32] And the article basically says that NVIDIA is controlling the ability of add-in board partners.
[2561.42 --> 2565.84] So that's your Asuses, Gigabytes, EVGAs of the world, MSI.
[2566.00 --> 2576.42] They're controlling add-in board partners' abilities to seed RTX cards to the press for independent evaluation through driver distribution.
[2576.98 --> 2578.76] I thought you told me you didn't want to talk about this.
[2578.82 --> 2579.68] No, we can talk about this.
[2579.80 --> 2580.06] Okay.
[2580.62 --> 2586.98] I didn't think it was great for TechLinked because I think it's a little bit more nuanced than we have time for in about 35 seconds.
[2586.98 --> 2588.26] Oh, so TechLinked has no nuance.
[2588.90 --> 2589.44] Okay, fine.
[2589.52 --> 2589.96] Yeah, whatever.
[2593.46 --> 2603.44] So a comparison is being made here to the GeForce Partner Program, where NVIDIA was exerting control over their AIBs and OEM brands with the GeForce Partner Program.
[2603.44 --> 2609.94] So now it's exerting control over who the AIB can have review their own custom cards.
[2610.84 --> 2617.58] So NVIDIA has asked that the AIBs tell NVIDIA who will be reviewing their custom RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti cards.
[2617.84 --> 2620.46] And they have asked for reviewers' email and phone numbers.
[2620.62 --> 2625.30] So they want to know who specifically from that publication will be reviewing it?
[2625.34 --> 2625.58] Yes.
[2626.06 --> 2626.50] Interesting.
[2626.50 --> 2635.82] So with the list of reviewers have been submitted to NVIDIA, and then NVIDIA has put together its own list of approved reviewers and sent their approved list back to let them know who they're allowed to sample cards to.
[2636.62 --> 2640.26] So they are not allowing the AIBs to distribute drivers with the review cards.
[2640.64 --> 2650.36] For a reviewer to have access, they must sign NVIDIA's multi-year NDA, log into a portal to obtain the driver, and download from there onto a machine with the new RTX card present.
[2650.36 --> 2658.18] So this is like a whole other level of kind of sketchiness because it's not just NVIDIA telling reviewers who can review their cards.
[2658.30 --> 2663.02] It's NVIDIA telling the card makers who can review the card makers' cards.
[2663.20 --> 2663.90] Ahead of launch.
[2664.12 --> 2664.38] Right.
[2664.38 --> 2669.06] So honestly, nothing here really raises alarm bells for me.
[2669.22 --> 2670.52] We signed NVIDIA's NDA.
[2670.68 --> 2672.24] We talked about this on the WAN show before.
[2672.38 --> 2675.84] There's nothing particularly odious in there.
[2676.14 --> 2681.76] Like it's a pretty bog standard NDA, the same kind that we would have to sign with pretty much anyone.
[2682.16 --> 2682.30] Right.
[2682.30 --> 2690.68] The same kind that doesn't prevent us, once the card is out there in the public, from saying anything we want about it.
[2690.68 --> 2697.32] But like it has stuff in there about not reverse engineering the product and like all the same kind of thing.
[2697.38 --> 2704.68] If you were to get a sample from Apple, Intel, AMD, there would be a very similar NDA to sign.
[2705.20 --> 2709.28] And their driver download portal, they've been using that for at least a couple of years now.
[2709.46 --> 2710.52] So that's not new.
[2710.52 --> 2718.38] And you already had to provide NVIDIA with an email address and a login so that they could authorize you for the portal.
[2718.38 --> 2721.06] We've never had trouble getting that going.
[2721.52 --> 2726.58] So like at first glance, this seems like, whoa, this is legally iffy or whatever.
[2726.72 --> 2728.66] Not even legally iffy, but just kind of sketchy.
[2728.86 --> 2730.12] But in practice, it's normal.
[2730.24 --> 2735.40] The only way that NVIDIA, the only way NVIDIA can enforce this is for pre-launch reviews.
[2735.64 --> 2739.64] And it is very typical in order to avoid leaks.
[2740.36 --> 2742.86] So this is, but this is only for before launch.
[2742.98 --> 2743.20] Yes.
[2743.50 --> 2746.56] Once the card launches, anybody can grab it and do a review.
[2746.56 --> 2746.82] Of course.
[2746.96 --> 2747.24] Of course.
[2747.24 --> 2750.94] Yeah, you could go to the store, buy an RTX, whatever the crap, and review it.
[2751.04 --> 2751.74] Do you want me to do that?
[2751.88 --> 2753.04] No, I don't.
[2753.20 --> 2755.58] Because we're going to have Anthony do it because he's far more qualified.
[2756.62 --> 2757.02] Okay.
[2758.38 --> 2768.98] So this is one where I, you know, on the one hand, I've given NVIDIA flack many times, many times, at least a dozen times,
[2768.98 --> 2773.54] about what I call their cloak and dagger BS around their launches.
[2773.94 --> 2775.66] And not talking about the comics.
[2775.66 --> 2777.38] Where, no, no.
[2777.50 --> 2779.52] Where basically, you know, they'll do stuff.
[2779.62 --> 2781.96] Like, they'll invite us to an event.
[2783.08 --> 2786.94] But we can't tell you, you know, what's going to be there.