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[771.04 --> 772.04] Does this really apply? |
[772.04 --> 773.04] Because this is... |
[773.04 --> 775.04] Isn't this about consumer grade... |
[775.04 --> 776.04] Yeah. |
[776.04 --> 777.04] No, no. |
[777.04 --> 778.04] I'm talking about high end consumer. |
[778.04 --> 781.04] I mean, AMD doesn't have anything competitive with the 1080 Ti. |
[781.04 --> 782.04] Not even close. |
[782.04 --> 783.04] Got them. |
[783.04 --> 784.04] That's it. |
[784.04 --> 785.04] Yeah. |
[785.04 --> 786.04] Alright. |
[786.04 --> 793.04] And I mean, as for Vega, Vega 56 and Vega 64, I mean, even before the mining craze, they weren't that competitive. |
[793.04 --> 794.04] Like, they were okay. |
[794.04 --> 795.04] Vega 64 wasn't. |
[795.04 --> 796.04] Vega 56 was. |
[796.04 --> 799.04] But you haven't been able to buy a Vega 56. |
[799.04 --> 801.04] Like, what... |
[801.04 --> 802.04] Where? |
[802.04 --> 803.04] Where are you supposed to get a Vega 56? |
[803.04 --> 812.04] And you really think that when they were deciding whether or not to make this move and how to spin it and whether or not it would give them bad press, they thought, you know what? |
[812.04 --> 815.04] Right now, nobody can buy anything because of crypto. |
[815.04 --> 819.04] They really considered the crypto mania and the availability of GPUs. |
[819.04 --> 820.04] Oh, I think so. |
[820.04 --> 821.04] And they were like, ah, we can probably get away with this. |
[821.04 --> 822.04] I think so. |
[822.04 --> 825.04] So, I think that the timing is a big part of it. |
[825.04 --> 829.04] And then I think the other thing is, like, why not try to get the press to buckle? |
[829.04 --> 835.04] Well, it's because they have far less of an impact on our livelihood than they do on their partners who rely on them for chips. |
[835.04 --> 837.04] Like, if... |
[837.04 --> 838.04] So, we... |
[838.04 --> 843.04] I would be more worried about YouTube than I would about NVIDIA. |
[843.04 --> 850.04] If YouTube were the kind of company where I didn't feel like, you know, they could accept criticism. |
[850.04 --> 856.04] As it is, you know, I can tell our YouTube rep stuff that I hate about the platform to his face. |
[856.04 --> 863.04] And his job, anyway, is to take that feedback and actually try and make it actionable and try and improve things. |
[863.04 --> 865.04] Believe it or not, YouTube does actually care. |
[865.04 --> 866.04] We're his client. |
[866.04 --> 867.04] Yeah. |
[867.04 --> 868.04] It's... |
[868.04 --> 871.04] We're his client, but he's also our... |
[871.04 --> 874.04] You know, that's actually an interesting way of looking at it. |
[874.04 --> 879.04] So, we're his client, but we're his client in a way where NVIDIA's clients are not... |
[879.04 --> 881.04] are not as much. |
[881.04 --> 884.04] Because NVIDIA could just find someone else. |
[884.04 --> 892.04] Whereas, once you reach a certain point as a creator, in much the same way that YouTube doesn't really focus much attention on the small creators that are replaceable, |
[892.04 --> 895.04] they do focus attention on the big ones that are difficult to replace. |
[895.04 --> 900.04] Well, I think from NVIDIA's perspective, pretty much everyone can be replaced at this point. |
[900.04 --> 902.04] Like, they've literally done it. |
[902.04 --> 908.04] XFX used to be a major NVIDIA partner, especially in North America back in the day. |
[908.04 --> 911.04] It was like, one, two. |
[911.04 --> 913.04] EVGA, XFX. |
[913.04 --> 921.04] Now, ever since XFX, defected to AMD back in, I think it was the 4000 series days? |
[921.04 --> 923.04] Don't quote me on that. |
[923.04 --> 924.04] It might have been 3000 series. |
[924.04 --> 929.04] Anyway, back then, ever since then, NVIDIA basically went, well, okay. |
[929.04 --> 940.04] You know, if you're gonna defect, if you're gonna go from being exclusive NVIDIA, remember, this was at a time when NVIDIA was in pretty rough shape with some hot running cards that didn't perform that well. |
[940.04 --> 945.04] If you guys are gonna turn tail and run into the arms of AMD, good luck with that. |
[945.04 --> 948.04] We'll just find someone else to replace you. |
[948.04 --> 949.04] And they did. |
[949.04 --> 954.04] When BFG disappeared, so BFG was another sort of top tier partner for NVIDIA in North America. |
[954.04 --> 958.04] One of their big things was that they offered a lifetime warranty. |
[958.04 --> 972.04] When BFG disappeared, NVIDIA didn't, you know, they didn't run out and try and find, you know, try and like quietly fund through, you know, venture capital, someone to take over the brand and continue it. |
[972.04 --> 975.04] They just kind of went, eh, then's the breaks. |
[975.04 --> 980.04] And if you think about it, that has been the strategy with board partners since the dawn of time. |
[980.04 --> 988.04] Like I could probably name half a dozen board partners off the top of my head who existed at one point, at least in North America, and don't anymore. |
[988.04 --> 989.04] Let's try. |
[989.04 --> 991.04] Well, there's BFG. |
[991.04 --> 992.04] So I already got that one. |
[992.04 --> 994.04] There is ChainTech. |
[994.04 --> 995.04] There's another one. |
[995.04 --> 1000.04] There is, let me think, GainWord. |
[1000.04 --> 1001.04] There's another one. |
[1001.04 --> 1006.04] GainWord used to be like, kind of like Halo, Halo tier products. |
[1006.04 --> 1009.04] A-Bit, I think, dabbled in GPUs at one point. |
[1009.04 --> 1012.04] They're gone entirely now from the motherboard business too. |
[1012.04 --> 1013.04] Dang. |
[1013.04 --> 1015.04] Is that all I got? |
[1015.04 --> 1016.04] That's pretty good. |
[1016.04 --> 1017.04] Shoot. |
[1017.04 --> 1018.04] I think that's all I've got. |
[1018.04 --> 1026.04] I mean, and then there's like, there's like the really old stuff, like, like back when like 3D Labs, I think, used to do graphics cards. |
[1026.04 --> 1029.04] But I don't think they ever did NVIDIA ones. |
[1029.04 --> 1032.04] 3D Labs, Creative. |
[1032.04 --> 1034.04] Did Creative do them? |
[1034.04 --> 1036.04] Before ATI acquired FireGL. |
[1036.04 --> 1037.04] Diamond. |
[1037.04 --> 1038.04] Oh yeah, Diamond Multimedia. |
[1038.04 --> 1040.04] Sorry, that's the one that I was thinking, not 3D Labs. |
[1040.04 --> 1041.04] Diamond. |
[1041.04 --> 1042.04] Okay, whatever. |
[1042.04 --> 1043.04] That's five. |
[1043.04 --> 1044.04] That's five. |
[1044.04 --> 1045.04] I don't know. |
[1045.04 --> 1046.04] I don't know if I was thinking of them, so it's kind of cheating. |
[1046.04 --> 1047.04] But that's not really the point. |
[1047.04 --> 1056.04] The point is, I think NVIDIA is in a position where they feel like they need their partners a lot less than someone like YouTube apparently does with us. |
[1056.04 --> 1059.04] So let's see how this continues to play out. |
[1059.04 --> 1062.04] So they still have that power and they don't really care. |
[1062.04 --> 1063.04] It doesn't matter. |
[1063.04 --> 1067.04] The sentiment is a drop in the bucket compared to the power of their market position, so it doesn't matter. |
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