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[2084.84 --> 2090.36] every week and it's like the greatest tragedy that could happen really no let's just do that
[2090.36 --> 2098.60] no the other argument here is that is censorship some people think steam should be completely
[2099.56 --> 2105.88] open for whatever and some people think their stakes is too far i mean it's a platform that they
[2105.88 --> 2112.60] own this isn't a government system so they can kind of do whatever they want sure they can but should
[2112.60 --> 2118.20] but what should their philosophy yeah i mean that's up to them like at the end of the day they're a
[2118.20 --> 2122.12] business if you don't like that they're removing this go somewhere else well i think they removed
[2122.12 --> 2127.08] it in response to outcry because this is i read about this topic it was posted last saturday i
[2127.08 --> 2131.16] believe on the forum originally and then it's been updated that they they did respond i mean the
[2131.16 --> 2135.72] graphics look terrible was this even on their radar it would have been one of those brutal like no one
[2135.72 --> 2139.40] knows about a game that's what i'm talking about maybe that's why like they probably had no clue it
[2139.40 --> 2144.36] looks it looks like junk i don't know personally but it looks like junk some of the people most of
[2144.36 --> 2148.52] the people on on the game the forums associated with the game it was made for outrage marketing
[2148.52 --> 2155.32] by making a game with stolen assets as a cheap cash grab maker was banned because their record of
[2155.32 --> 2159.40] making stolen asset games yeah so it was just some like junk game thrown together in no time
[2160.68 --> 2166.12] yeah it probably wasn't on steam's and the dude the publisher developer dude uh has a history of
[2166.12 --> 2172.36] customer reviews and publishing copyright material so and user review manipulation so he's just like so
[2172.36 --> 2179.80] banned but in the forums related to the game some people most of the people were saying get this
[2179.80 --> 2187.16] game off of here off the platform but some people were saying um that they criticized valve for the
[2187.16 --> 2192.36] fact that it gives the boot to many games contain containing nudity while letting the likes of active
[2192.36 --> 2197.00] shooter state this is prior to the ban people were saying that it's kind of like a free the nipple thing
[2197.00 --> 2202.04] like you're on instagram and there's you can be so scantily cloud and covered in oil and putting your
[2202.04 --> 2207.16] butt up against camera but you can't be like breastfeeding yeah i don't know it's
[2209.16 --> 2215.80] i i maintain to a certain degree that like freedom of speech and whatnot is a government-based thing
[2216.76 --> 2224.84] and it doesn't apply to that platform if that platform is like i don't want you shooting teachers
[2224.84 --> 2232.20] in a game they have full right to take that off their platform if it becomes discriminatory for
[2232.20 --> 2236.92] some reason then it's a different issue but i don't think that's the case valve seems to have
[2236.92 --> 2242.76] known who this person was pre-existing troll history of manipulation and other things they probably
[2242.76 --> 2246.60] would have banned it just because he's banned regardless i'm pretty sure he was already banned
[2246.60 --> 2252.36] and just made a new thing to put this up possible so like it might not even have to do with the game
[2252.36 --> 2256.20] itself it might just have to do with the fact that they don't want him releasing stuff on the platform
[2256.20 --> 2261.64] here's a question for you you know how ever since the first match school shooting columbine people
[2261.64 --> 2268.52] have been blaming video games notably grand theft auto and music like merlin manson music and most gamers
[2269.08 --> 2274.12] so many thousands of gamers have been like look like games are not the reason that these things are
[2274.12 --> 2279.56] happening well there's been studies that have proved that too sure what about a game like this
[2279.56 --> 2285.88] do you think a game like this that's so like it's a simulation of of the event do you think that
[2285.88 --> 2289.72] could desensitize a person make them more likely to carry out such a heinous crime i think we're
[2289.72 --> 2296.84] getting down a little bit of a weird path here um i i don't think playing a video game facilitates
[2296.84 --> 2303.72] doing a crime because uh i don't think playing call of duty inspires anyone to join the army
[2304.12 --> 2312.36] if that makes sense i think there are some games that can do things like that uh but like there's
[2312.36 --> 2316.60] there's a video that i like that's online that takes like a pro counter-strike player and they
[2316.60 --> 2321.24] give him like the gun that he mains with and he shoots one bullet and he's like i'm done
[2323.24 --> 2325.56] i didn't enjoy that i don't want to do it anymore and just leaves
[2326.12 --> 2331.08] um so like it doesn't necessarily inspire that i think if you are interested in cars
[2331.08 --> 2337.24] and then start you can go are you waiting okay all right you can just there's no other way so like
[2337.24 --> 2343.56] well uh way to block the camera what are you thinking okay what are you ahead of shake man
[2343.56 --> 2351.64] uh if you are already into cars and you start playing like i don't know forza uh forza five sure
[2351.64 --> 2359.24] yeah um it's that will probably just drive that further drive it'll steer you in that direction
[2359.24 --> 2364.36] yeah yeah yeah it'll it'll like it's already a passion of yours so you're doing something within
[2364.36 --> 2371.56] that range and it kind of just accelerates it yeah yeah you're not putting on the brakes you're you're
[2371.56 --> 2377.56] trying to immerse yourself more in that right right um and i i don't think like maybe if you're like
[2377.56 --> 2382.76] obsessed with this stuff and you're already watching like every new poorly done news article
[2382.76 --> 2386.84] where they talk about the shooter a lot and they say his name and all this kind of stuff and you're
[2386.84 --> 2393.40] like really really into that type of thing and then you start playing this game like it might be a
[2393.40 --> 2398.68] component sure but it's not going to be like it's not the source there's i don't think anyone's going
[2398.68 --> 2403.80] to play this and be like i gotta go do it like i don't i don't think that's going to happen i think
[2403.80 --> 2409.16] you are already since they banned it yeah yeah you can't now good yeah i think if you're already
[2409.16 --> 2413.80] obsessed with the thing and already immersing yourself in it so much it might be a component
[2413.80 --> 2419.96] of your insanity but like it's not do you think there's any way that a game like if you're a person
[2419.96 --> 2427.64] like that that a game like this could um offer you release and make you less likely i have no idea i am
[2427.64 --> 2436.44] not a psychologist um probably varies greatly between individuals yes it as a lot of things do um
[2436.44 --> 2439.40] because people make out arguments like that uh for prostitution
[2442.20 --> 2442.60] like you
[2445.56 --> 2445.96] facebook
[2449.96 --> 2452.44] to remove the trending topics i love it like you
[2452.44 --> 2462.04] okay all right all right sorry facebook doing something i don't even want to read that topic
[2462.04 --> 2465.24] and that's about all there is to it they're removing the trending topic sections the side
[2465.24 --> 2469.16] of your news feed they've got a couple things uh there that are trending hashtags usually they're
[2469.16 --> 2473.72] news articles that are a few days behind twitter anyway and for like four years it's been up there
[2473.72 --> 2477.08] and people have always been questioning how facebook chooses now they're just getting rid of it all
[2477.08 --> 2484.52] together and they are working on some other um some other types or ways of delivering news to you
[2485.40 --> 2489.24] including breaking news labels and a section that collects local stories
[2491.96 --> 2497.08] do you have an opinion on this thing with star citizen and how you can get you can buy this pack
[2497.08 --> 2501.64] of dlc that includes every item in the game but that pack costs 27
[2501.64 --> 2512.84] thousand dollars yeah no i i think spending 27 000 on a game uh that doesn't have a like full release
[2512.84 --> 2521.64] date yet and might never fully release is probably a solid investment plan in the post bitcoin boom
[2522.84 --> 2529.80] i like it so here's the thing because this may be this may be a limited time offer
[2529.80 --> 2536.92] so you could spend 27 grand and then sell those ships on the black market wow and if you call
[2536.92 --> 2540.60] in the next five minutes you can have a dancing french guy walking in front of your camera yeah
[2540.60 --> 2547.64] shaking his butt in the screen guess what he's coming back again wow not one but two wow
[2548.84 --> 2551.88] this is supposed to be the least used set yeah well
[2551.88 --> 2561.64] so here's the thing though i once i once ran in i was in latvia and i had lunch with this couple
[2561.64 --> 2566.44] from california and they both worked in the mobile gaming space in silicon valley in the marketing end
[2566.44 --> 2572.12] of it and they were telling me they worked for games like candy crush and they said that the the
[2572.12 --> 2576.84] biggest percentage of your money comes from wales it's it's like 99 yeah like it's so much of it comes
[2576.84 --> 2582.92] from wales there's people who spend over 100 grand a year the the the vast majority of your user base
[2582.92 --> 2591.00] in the mobile gaming space doesn't matter at all so is this a way of taking money from leveraging
[2592.12 --> 2598.44] like the whales like do you care what the whales who the this 27 000 is equivalent worth
[2599.00 --> 2604.36] to you and me like 80 bucks like or less or less like this guy's like a saudi prince he's like oh
[2604.36 --> 2608.84] i can have all of them like cool boom done the thing is though this isn't even they're not even
[2608.84 --> 2613.16] getting like unique items it's not like you're getting a one of a kind no one else is getting
[2613.16 --> 2617.24] this ship only you have this ship it's just all of them you just get everything and everything in
[2617.24 --> 2624.12] this case is 117 ships and 163 extras i'm not familiar with the game what would those extras be
[2624.12 --> 2631.00] weapons vehicles skins uh different guns different uh modifications to the ships
[2631.00 --> 2634.92] literally a poster in your hangar uh it can be a lot of stuff
[2636.84 --> 2642.44] lots of stuff that's cool that's worth it like a little model of one of the ships that goes digitally
[2642.44 --> 2647.64] in your hangar in the game like that that could be what it is yeah there's there's a lot of little
[2647.64 --> 2653.24] extras this game's a kickstarter still it's not out right this seems like a really good way to fundraise
[2653.24 --> 2658.92] from those whales get the get it out there for the rest of us but we were fundraising in like what
[2658.92 --> 2668.04] 2012 like what what year did this start can i find the original star citizen kickstarter
[2670.28 --> 2679.08] kickstarter star citizen october 18th of 2012 holy cow yeah dude whoa this is like duke nukem forever

[2084.84 --> 2090.36] every week and it's like the greatest tragedy that could happen really no let's just do that

[2090.36 --> 2098.60] no the other argument here is that is censorship some people think steam should be completely

[2099.56 --> 2105.88] open for whatever and some people think their stakes is too far i mean it's a platform that they

[2105.88 --> 2112.60] own this isn't a government system so they can kind of do whatever they want sure they can but should

[2112.60 --> 2118.20] but what should their philosophy yeah i mean that's up to them like at the end of the day they're a

[2118.20 --> 2122.12] business if you don't like that they're removing this go somewhere else well i think they removed

[2122.12 --> 2127.08] it in response to outcry because this is i read about this topic it was posted last saturday i

[2127.08 --> 2131.16] believe on the forum originally and then it's been updated that they they did respond i mean the

[2131.16 --> 2135.72] graphics look terrible was this even on their radar it would have been one of those brutal like no one

[2135.72 --> 2139.40] knows about a game that's what i'm talking about maybe that's why like they probably had no clue it

[2139.40 --> 2144.36] looks it looks like junk i don't know personally but it looks like junk some of the people most of

[2144.36 --> 2148.52] the people on on the game the forums associated with the game it was made for outrage marketing

[2148.52 --> 2155.32] by making a game with stolen assets as a cheap cash grab maker was banned because their record of

[2155.32 --> 2159.40] making stolen asset games yeah so it was just some like junk game thrown together in no time

[2160.68 --> 2166.12] yeah it probably wasn't on steam's and the dude the publisher developer dude uh has a history of

[2166.12 --> 2172.36] customer reviews and publishing copyright material so and user review manipulation so he's just like so

[2172.36 --> 2179.80] banned but in the forums related to the game some people most of the people were saying get this

[2179.80 --> 2187.16] game off of here off the platform but some people were saying um that they criticized valve for the

[2187.16 --> 2192.36] fact that it gives the boot to many games contain containing nudity while letting the likes of active

[2192.36 --> 2197.00] shooter state this is prior to the ban people were saying that it's kind of like a free the nipple thing

[2197.00 --> 2202.04] like you're on instagram and there's you can be so scantily cloud and covered in oil and putting your

[2202.04 --> 2207.16] butt up against camera but you can't be like breastfeeding yeah i don't know it's

[2209.16 --> 2215.80] i i maintain to a certain degree that like freedom of speech and whatnot is a government-based thing

[2216.76 --> 2224.84] and it doesn't apply to that platform if that platform is like i don't want you shooting teachers

[2224.84 --> 2232.20] in a game they have full right to take that off their platform if it becomes discriminatory for

[2232.20 --> 2236.92] some reason then it's a different issue but i don't think that's the case valve seems to have

[2236.92 --> 2242.76] known who this person was pre-existing troll history of manipulation and other things they probably

[2242.76 --> 2246.60] would have banned it just because he's banned regardless i'm pretty sure he was already banned

[2246.60 --> 2252.36] and just made a new thing to put this up possible so like it might not even have to do with the game

[2252.36 --> 2256.20] itself it might just have to do with the fact that they don't want him releasing stuff on the platform

[2256.20 --> 2261.64] here's a question for you you know how ever since the first match school shooting columbine people

[2261.64 --> 2268.52] have been blaming video games notably grand theft auto and music like merlin manson music and most gamers

[2269.08 --> 2274.12] so many thousands of gamers have been like look like games are not the reason that these things are

[2274.12 --> 2279.56] happening well there's been studies that have proved that too sure what about a game like this

[2279.56 --> 2285.88] do you think a game like this that's so like it's a simulation of of the event do you think that

[2285.88 --> 2289.72] could desensitize a person make them more likely to carry out such a heinous crime i think we're

[2289.72 --> 2296.84] getting down a little bit of a weird path here um i i don't think playing a video game facilitates

[2296.84 --> 2303.72] doing a crime because uh i don't think playing call of duty inspires anyone to join the army

[2304.12 --> 2312.36] if that makes sense i think there are some games that can do things like that uh but like there's

[2312.36 --> 2316.60] there's a video that i like that's online that takes like a pro counter-strike player and they

[2316.60 --> 2321.24] give him like the gun that he mains with and he shoots one bullet and he's like i'm done

[2323.24 --> 2325.56] i didn't enjoy that i don't want to do it anymore and just leaves

[2326.12 --> 2331.08] um so like it doesn't necessarily inspire that i think if you are interested in cars

[2331.08 --> 2337.24] and then start you can go are you waiting okay all right you can just there's no other way so like

[2337.24 --> 2343.56] well uh way to block the camera what are you thinking okay what are you ahead of shake man

[2343.56 --> 2351.64] uh if you are already into cars and you start playing like i don't know forza uh forza five sure

[2351.64 --> 2359.24] yeah um it's that will probably just drive that further drive it'll steer you in that direction

[2359.24 --> 2364.36] yeah yeah yeah it'll it'll like it's already a passion of yours so you're doing something within

[2364.36 --> 2371.56] that range and it kind of just accelerates it yeah yeah you're not putting on the brakes you're you're

[2371.56 --> 2377.56] trying to immerse yourself more in that right right um and i i don't think like maybe if you're like

[2377.56 --> 2382.76] obsessed with this stuff and you're already watching like every new poorly done news article

[2382.76 --> 2386.84] where they talk about the shooter a lot and they say his name and all this kind of stuff and you're

[2386.84 --> 2393.40] like really really into that type of thing and then you start playing this game like it might be a

[2393.40 --> 2398.68] component sure but it's not going to be like it's not the source there's i don't think anyone's going

[2398.68 --> 2403.80] to play this and be like i gotta go do it like i don't i don't think that's going to happen i think

[2403.80 --> 2409.16] you are already since they banned it yeah yeah you can't now good yeah i think if you're already

[2409.16 --> 2413.80] obsessed with the thing and already immersing yourself in it so much it might be a component

[2413.80 --> 2419.96] of your insanity but like it's not do you think there's any way that a game like if you're a person

[2419.96 --> 2427.64] like that that a game like this could um offer you release and make you less likely i have no idea i am

[2427.64 --> 2436.44] not a psychologist um probably varies greatly between individuals yes it as a lot of things do um

[2436.44 --> 2439.40] because people make out arguments like that uh for prostitution

[2442.20 --> 2442.60] like you

[2445.56 --> 2445.96] facebook

[2449.96 --> 2452.44] to remove the trending topics i love it like you

[2452.44 --> 2462.04] okay all right all right sorry facebook doing something i don't even want to read that topic

[2462.04 --> 2465.24] and that's about all there is to it they're removing the trending topic sections the side

[2465.24 --> 2469.16] of your news feed they've got a couple things uh there that are trending hashtags usually they're

[2469.16 --> 2473.72] news articles that are a few days behind twitter anyway and for like four years it's been up there

[2473.72 --> 2477.08] and people have always been questioning how facebook chooses now they're just getting rid of it all

[2477.08 --> 2484.52] together and they are working on some other um some other types or ways of delivering news to you

[2485.40 --> 2489.24] including breaking news labels and a section that collects local stories

[2491.96 --> 2497.08] do you have an opinion on this thing with star citizen and how you can get you can buy this pack

[2497.08 --> 2501.64] of dlc that includes every item in the game but that pack costs 27

[2501.64 --> 2512.84] thousand dollars yeah no i i think spending 27 000 on a game uh that doesn't have a like full release

[2512.84 --> 2521.64] date yet and might never fully release is probably a solid investment plan in the post bitcoin boom

[2522.84 --> 2529.80] i like it so here's the thing because this may be this may be a limited time offer

[2529.80 --> 2536.92] so you could spend 27 grand and then sell those ships on the black market wow and if you call

[2536.92 --> 2540.60] in the next five minutes you can have a dancing french guy walking in front of your camera yeah

[2540.60 --> 2547.64] shaking his butt in the screen guess what he's coming back again wow not one but two wow

[2548.84 --> 2551.88] this is supposed to be the least used set yeah well

[2551.88 --> 2561.64] so here's the thing though i once i once ran in i was in latvia and i had lunch with this couple

[2561.64 --> 2566.44] from california and they both worked in the mobile gaming space in silicon valley in the marketing end

[2566.44 --> 2572.12] of it and they were telling me they worked for games like candy crush and they said that the the

[2572.12 --> 2576.84] biggest percentage of your money comes from wales it's it's like 99 yeah like it's so much of it comes

[2576.84 --> 2582.92] from wales there's people who spend over 100 grand a year the the the vast majority of your user base

[2582.92 --> 2591.00] in the mobile gaming space doesn't matter at all so is this a way of taking money from leveraging

[2592.12 --> 2598.44] like the whales like do you care what the whales who the this 27 000 is equivalent worth

[2599.00 --> 2604.36] to you and me like 80 bucks like or less or less like this guy's like a saudi prince he's like oh

[2604.36 --> 2608.84] i can have all of them like cool boom done the thing is though this isn't even they're not even

[2608.84 --> 2613.16] getting like unique items it's not like you're getting a one of a kind no one else is getting

[2613.16 --> 2617.24] this ship only you have this ship it's just all of them you just get everything and everything in

[2617.24 --> 2624.12] this case is 117 ships and 163 extras i'm not familiar with the game what would those extras be

[2624.12 --> 2631.00] weapons vehicles skins uh different guns different uh modifications to the ships

[2631.00 --> 2634.92] literally a poster in your hangar uh it can be a lot of stuff

[2636.84 --> 2642.44] lots of stuff that's cool that's worth it like a little model of one of the ships that goes digitally

[2642.44 --> 2647.64] in your hangar in the game like that that could be what it is yeah there's there's a lot of little

[2647.64 --> 2653.24] extras this game's a kickstarter still it's not out right this seems like a really good way to fundraise

[2653.24 --> 2658.92] from those whales get the get it out there for the rest of us but we were fundraising in like what

[2658.92 --> 2668.04] 2012 like what what year did this start can i find the original star citizen kickstarter

[2670.28 --> 2679.08] kickstarter star citizen october 18th of 2012 holy cow yeah dude whoa this is like duke nukem forever